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Mayawati? anyone?
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vijayk wrote:Mayawati? anyone?
Seconded
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Rsatchi wrote:This could be out of the box thinking and can pin various liberandus down
How about Sudha Murthy 8)
A lady, prolific author, philanthropist, apolitical, down to earth, well liked for her work
Down side forward caste comes with a baggage of NR Murthy and his dealings with Amazon
Both Sudha Murthy and NR Murthy were card carrying commies. NR Murthy's foundation continues to work with hinduphobic and anti-India elements. Sharad Pawar is a terrible choice for multiple reasons, he is as sly and cunning as a fox, for 4 decades now he has been the lever used by the mumbai mafia to buy influence in both the parliament and Vidhan Bhavan and he always has his own game going so expect him to trip the Modi administration at every opportunity.

Pres. Ramnath Kovind should be offered a 2nd term, and if he refuses then i suggest Arif Mohammed Khan.
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^ "I suggest Arif Mohammed Khan"

Absolutely.
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President should be a person who don't have any corruption charges. One more term for President Ram Nath Kovind and if opposition did not agree, surely Shri.Arif Mohammed Khan will be a good choice or should be considered for Vice President.
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We have to follow the example of NYT/WaPo ... We should set up a fund for people who felt intimidated/converted due to pressure in schools/employment by teachers/bosses or even doctors. We should set up a channel to broadcast stories/publish stories.

I still remember as a kid, my convent Principal used to try to convert kids and would abuse Hindu Gods. Even in Engineering college, one of the Thermodynamics professor would play cassettes abusing Krishna
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Evil Hindu. His god was trying to save you.


It’s a different matter that he couldn’t save himself. Your soul is of sole importance.
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And you showed him your sole.
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rajkumar wrote:
vijayk wrote:Mayawati? anyone?
Seconded
This would be huge win if she can cooperate after becoming the president. But she cant be trusted with that cooperation and can become a big political risk. BJP is not ready for this.

Eventually BJP needs be strong enough to bring Mayawati like leaders into its fold comfortably and without risk. That would take us to the next level of Hindu Unity.
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uddu wrote:President should be a person who don't have any corruption charges. One more term for President Ram Nath Kovind and if opposition did not agree, surely Shri.Arif Mohammed Khan will be a good choice or should be considered for Vice President.

+ 1 for one more term to Shri Kovind.
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I am expecting Kovind ji to get an extension. But if he is not interested than it would be either a women or a dalit leader (preferred). A Muslim president from BJP should be attempted post 2024 only.
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Shaktimaan wrote:From time to time, the name of a Perpetual-PM-in-Waiting from Maharashtra is floated as potential President. What do you think, any chances of that gentleman being nominated?
The blood of the Palghar sadhus is on his hands.
Which Fool will support this person?
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ramana wrote:
Shaktimaan wrote:From time to time, the name of a Perpetual-PM-in-Waiting from Maharashtra is floated as potential President. What do you think, any chances of that gentleman being nominated?
The blood of the Palghar sadhus is on his hands.
Which Fool will support this person?
Yep. I hope he is DONE soon.
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Anyone notice AP Police arrested three persons for trying to hoist national flag near Jinnah Tower in Guntur, Andhra Pradesh?
Reminds you of preventing hoisting national flag in Lal Chowk, Srinagar.
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CalvinH wrote:
rajkumar wrote:
Seconded
This would be huge win if she can cooperate after becoming the president. But she cant be trusted with that cooperation and can become a big political risk. BJP is not ready for this.

Eventually BJP needs be strong enough to bring Mayawati like leaders into its fold comfortably and without risk. That would take us to the next level of Hindu Unity.
aunty has a very corrupt reputation and many many cases filed against, including against family members

no way.

Why not Nirmala sitaraman, if such a wide net is being cast
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chetak wrote:
CalvinH wrote:
This would be huge win if she can cooperate after becoming the president. But she cant be trusted with that cooperation and can become a big political risk. BJP is not ready for this.

Eventually BJP needs be strong enough to bring Mayawati like leaders into its fold comfortably and without risk. That would take us to the next level of Hindu Unity.
aunty has a very corrupt reputation and many many cases filed against, including against family members

no way.

Why not Nirmala sitaraman, if such a wide net is being cast
Nirmalaji has no popular backup. We need some significant political capital. Unfortunately no one gets inspired by her selection in TN or AP. Her husband is a walking posion. See his pure hatred against Modi/Shah after being part of BJP for some time.

We can get Mayawati or any well known Dalit Sikh also
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This guy is likely to start his act now to meddle in Indian politics /elections

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If not a second term for Pres Ramanathan (SC), it could be former Gov. Draupadi Murmu (ST). A tribal has never been President. No better time than now. Sangma had contested with BJP support but lost.
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kit wrote:This guy is likely to start his act now to meddle in Indian politics /elections

PAPPU is his candidate :evil:
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KL Dubey wrote:If not a second term for Pres Ramanathan (SC), it could be former Gov. Draupadi Murmu (ST). A tribal has never been President. No better time than now. Sangma had contested with BJP support but lost.
Her name was doing rounds last time also. If she is given chance no one oppose it. :D

Mrs Mahajan is from Indore. No much connected to MH.

It is possible Venkayya may be asked to continue as AP RS MPs may support him wholesale which makes the win easier. At present there are no BJP RS MPs from AP. Plus personally he has good relationships with other party leaders also.
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vijayk wrote:
kit wrote:This guy is likely to start his act now to meddle in Indian politics /elections

PAPPU is his candidate :evil:
Also explains trump in the US
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ABSTRACT

This article throws light on Lord Mountbatten’s enduring involvement in India after 1964, an overlooked feature of his later life. On a number of issues such as the abolition of titles, privileges and privy purses of Indian Princes (1967–71), imposition of Emergency in India (1975), arms sales, expulsion of BBC (1970–72) and evolution of history-writing on Partition, this article evaluates his changing role as a ‘friend of India’ in Britain, while becoming an irksome interlocutor for both the British and Indian ‘official mind’. This draining of Mountbatten’s influence, though not involvement, through the 1970s, represented an inter-generational dilation of Indo-British relations.

Mountbatten and India, 1964-79: after Nehru
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vijayk wrote:
chetak wrote:
aunty has a very corrupt reputation and many many cases filed against, including against family members

no way.

Why not Nirmala sitaraman, if such a wide net is being cast
Nirmalaji has no popular backup. We need some significant political capital. Unfortunately no one gets inspired by her selection in TN or AP. Her husband is a walking posion. See his pure hatred against Modi/Shah after being part of BJP for some time.

We can get Mayawati or any well known Dalit Sikh also
Kovind was absolutely unknown when he was catapulted into the rashtrapati bhavan. Nirmala Sitaraman has a very clean image and she is very accomplished in her own right and has risen by dint of her hard work and ability.

her husband seems to be a jealous little man of little to show in the way of accomplishment or ability, completely eclipsed by his wife and struggling to maintain his so called "identity" he may the butt of many jokes. Rightly, she has kept him out of all her government work

no way mayawathi is going anywhere near the rashtrapati bhavan. Modi will not destroy his own USP and blot his very successful clean image

If not the current incumbent being continued for a second term, Modi will spring a surprise candidate as is his usual style

he simply will not touch any of the corrupted, even with a very long barge pole.

behen's massive corruption has ringfenced her and her family and rendered them ineffective and untouchable in political circles of the BJP. The RSS will certainly not keep quiet

regional satraps are all, without exception acquisitive by nature and when wanting to be in power, shame, self-respect, love for the nation becomes irrelevant. Focus is on die-nastie and grabbing of wealth to last many generations

Humko bass satta dedo. Baaki baad me jaaye

It may just be the turn of the south to get a seat at the head of the table, to counter the dravidians and buttress the BJP in other southern states.

Only Modi and time can tell.
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ramana wrote:Anyone notice AP Police arrested three persons for trying to hoist national flag near Jinnah Tower in Guntur, Andhra Pradesh?
The few 'secular' news channels I watch seems to have ignored this incident. I checked on the net after your post.
Hindu Vahini workers try to hoist flag at Guntur's Jinnah Tower, detained
Jinnah Tower
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Yaddi comes to mind as a possible choice. :D Massive good will from KA, the only state in the south with BJP in power. Massive good will from Lingayath Community. But allegations are there on him also. Other than that there are not many clean senior leaders with reasonable stature and long BJP membership from south. So south may not get top post in this round.

Female from SC ST community means Drapathi Murmu and my gut feeling is she will have a chance this time or Kovidji will continue.
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Why is Omidyar Foundation pumping so much money into Indian elections? Thinking face. George Soros’ Open Society Foundation too seems to be into this whole mix (has Pakistanis in management)… something to look into.
This Omidyar foundation (eBay owner Iranian Islamist pretending freedom) another dangerous NGO stays under radar.
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If you have read my yesterday's thread, you will understand this very clearly!
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BJP is very wary about internal sabotage. Mayawati cannot as many conflicts can arise. The top BJP level is reliable, and long timers people.

If not Kovind, it will be another +15 years experience BJP leader. Kovind has been good, so no reason to change?
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What makes people think Mayawati would even want to be the President? She still has political ambitions which she would have to give up to be President. She is not going to do that. Same with Nirmala Sitharaman. Only reason to make her President would be if Modi is not satisfied with her work as a Cabinet minister and does not think he can use her in the cabinet anymore, which let's face it is a much more important job.
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Hamid Ansari, former VP of India, slanders Indian democracy at a webinar hosted by the Indo-American Muslim Council (IAMC).

IAMC has well-established ties to ISI-funded organizations like the PFI and SIMI in India, and to ISI agents like Ghulam Nabi Fai in the US.

Other attendees at the webinar included Archbishop Peter Machado and Swara Bhasker.

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ramana wrote:Anyone notice AP Police arrested three persons for trying to hoist national flag near Jinnah Tower in Guntur, Andhra Pradesh?
Reminds you of preventing hoisting national flag in Lal Chowk, Srinagar.
BJP's demand of renaming Guntur's Jinnah tower: YSRCP alleges 'communal' instigation

Unbelievable: removing the name Jinnah is communal
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The UP mafia criminal gangster Mukthar Ansari (wanted in 100s of murders), who is now on the run from the Police in UP., and in hiding or prison in MH. UP govt. Under CM yogi's administration, all of Mukhtar Ansari's properties have been destroyed and all this benami properties confiscated. Houses for poor people are being built at this time, last reported. This humanitarian Mukhthar Ansari is the nephew of the recently-popular pakistani patriot Hamid Ansari. Guess being dishonourable criminals and lowlives is a family tradition in that Ansari clan.

Hamid Ansari holds BJP responsible for the ill-fate of his criminal nephew, who ruled the roost suring SP rule, so there is some element of personal enmity against BJP/PM Modi -- it was pretty obvious from the way he stood hands folded, glaring at the PM, and refused to shake hands with him during a recent national event -- maybe Aug 15th -- there is a youtube video of this out there.
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Supreme Court sets aside the indefinite suspension of 12 BJP MLAs from maharashtra assembly.



https://www.news9live.com/india/sc-sets ... bly-149907
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^
It's a long list. Each item tells the same story. Do the right thing but don't get believed. It's like "Modi hai toh zaroor gadbad hai. (If there is Modi, then something's surely amiss)"
Perfectly explained. It's a very fundamental problem, really hope bjp works on it.

Or maybe the problem really is "do the right thing", the "sabka saath, sabka vikas... etc etc". who really knows i guess..
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Ambar wrote: Both Sudha Murthy and NR Murthy were card carrying commies. NR Murthy's foundation continues to work with hinduphobic and anti-India elements. Sharad Pawar is a terrible choice for multiple reasons, he is as sly and cunning as a fox, for 4 decades now he has been the lever used by the mumbai mafia to buy influence in both the parliament and Vidhan Bhavan and he always has his own game going so expect him to trip the Modi administration at every opportunity.
If it has to be a IT person, Mohandas Pai may be a good bet. He has been consistent in his pro India values.
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