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Sachin wrote: For the one in Bangalore, do the peacefool community have land records which show they have possession for the entire grounds? Or is it only for a small portion within the ground where there is some religious structure?

Bengaluru: Chamarajpet's Idgah Maidan belongs to Revenue Department, rules BBMP

The Waqf Board intervened and claimed that the 2 acre 5 gunta land belongs to them and the BBMP cannot give such permissions.
The BBMP had written to the Waqf Board to provide documents related to the Idgah Maidan ownership.

Meanwhile, the BBMP Commissioner had earlier said, the land does not belong to them but now the Jt Commissioner has ruled that the land belongs to the Revenue Department.
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when a few Hindutva organisations sought permission of the civic body to hold events at the Maidan. This brought out two contrary sets of documents - Karnataka State Board of Auqaf presenting a 1965 gazette notifying the land as Wakf property and 1974 City Survey records and all civic records thereafter showing the land to be a civic playground.

How ever the gazette only listed “Idgah, Sunni, Chamarajpet” in serial number 137, but did not mention the survey number, extent of land, corporation number or the chakkubandi of the land parcel, and hence, was unclear.

My question is who pays the tax? If it belong to wakf should they not have tax receipts? They have no documents but they claim full ...or is it that peaceful need not have to pay tax as the entire earth belong to ola-uber.
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madhu wrote:When nota anandranganathan says "welcome to islamic republic of india", it is very true. Our temples are captured by government and we need to beg for a place to do our pooja.

Let me give you another example. In mysore there is a famous temple "Sri Chamundeshwari Temple". The minimum collection of the temple is 3.5 cr per month in 2021 one of the road collapsed due to rain. As this road was not taken by tourists and used by only locals, this road has not been repaired till date..
BJP is complicit in this loot of temples. We should have a Wakq kind of institution in all states for Hindus where all the money from temples should flow. Use this money for welfare of Hindu community, maintain temples, pay salary to poojaries, open orphanages, schools and hospitals for Hindus. That will be enough to thwart the missionaries who are preying on the poor by offering these services. But BJP government using looted temple money to bridge the budget deficit
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Either this is an extremely daring accusation by KA opposition parties or the KA BJP has become corrupt uncontrollably.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/karnata ... _topscroll

I think this is the first time them corrupt contractors have risked their own skin & come out...like I mentioned either they have been assured patronage & protection by opposition parties or situation has become so bad wrt corruption level that they are not afraid of speaking out (of course they could have taken initiative on their own & subsequently have been assured of protection by opposition parties)...in the past BJP KA has been known to be extremely corrupt...so the accusation isn't exactly surprising...if the accusation is true, there is no way the BJP high command wouldn't be not knowing this and the silence of PM/PMO/BJP high-level is not encouraging when NaMo is calling for abortion of corruption.

Anyways, it seems like there is gonna be some kind of litigation actions in the above case...will be interesting to see the outcome. I hope there will be pressure to clean up acts within KA BJP...some of us voters are caught between a rock & a hard place...vote for other parties who are totally in to fake secularism or vote BJP in hope for bringing out a more balanced secularism but also come with possibly more corrupt cabinet...either ways the infra of BLR is not improving...as the recent rains have proven...at least the white topped roads (which are very new and hence alright so far but takes months to finish) don't have potholes (although they have started to chip at junctions of two cement slabs) but experience water clogging...
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madhu wrote:
"My question is who pays the tax? If it belong to wakf should they not have tax receipts? They have no documents but they claim full ...or is it that peaceful need not have to pay tax as the entire earth belong to ola-uber."
To my knowledge, they are exempt from payment of property tax. As regards title a Gazette notification which derives its authority from an Act of the legislature trumps Municipal body's classification as playground. Whether the gazette notification cited by Waqf Board specifically refers to this disputed site is a matter of fact to be decided on the evidence presented.
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Zynda wrote:in the past BJP KA has been known to be extremely corrupt...so the accusation isn't exactly surprising...
The truth is that in KA; every politician is equally corrupt :lol:. So today INC can accuse the BJP, and in a few months time the reverse can happen too. KA may be the only state where politicians jump parties like they change their shirts. In KL a INC politician joining CPI(M) is a rare event, in TN politicians shuttling between ADMK and DMK is also rare. But in KA it is never a big deal. There was Bangarappa who pretty much was part of every major political party at some point or other. The Jarkhiholi brothers have such a good scheme that one brother is part of a major political party. And we also have seen how MLAs from Congress have joined the BJP as well.

KA was a liberal state for quite some time. I have heard many small time businessmen (from outside KA) who say that it is easy to do business in KA. Bribes have to be paid; but once that is done rest of the life is easy.
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nandakumar wrote: To my knowledge, they are exempt from payment of property tax.
You mean they will not pay property tax but hindu trusts should pay? As much as i know hindu trust should pay income tax... What about income tax of wakf?

In the meantime, welcome to islamic Republic of india


Get NOC from local Jamaat to install Ganesha Idol in a Muslim-dominated area: Madras HC
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From Singha's Twitter feed...some Youtube videos

The genius of China's sponge cities
Managing Floods In Singapore | Our Water Journey
So it seems like other cities have faced massive water clogging issues and have taken steps to resolve it...hopefully, this will be a wake up call for Indian cities. But the pace at which our Govt. works combined with general apathy, I doubt their commitment. Gotta hand it to the Chinese...at least the pressure of optics & the embarrassment that comes with it, forces them to do things (also having a free hand helps them immensely).

SYaji@yaji63
the curse of Karnataka for having a BJP gov but getting nothing more than what the Congress gov gives...KA BJP is truly a INC with a Lotus Symbol. There is absolute lack of will to serve people or do anything good.
Like Sachin saar mentioned, cross hopping of INC & other party politicians in to BJP have given BJP political capital but not sure about the will to help citizens.
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Sponge cities are not really needed in India since our cities are not (yet) as highly concrete/bitumen surfaced as Chinese ones. There is enough exposed soil which can naturally soak up rain water, leading to lesser runoff which collects and collects leading to flooding. Thats also one reason why we are able to get rid of excess rain water fairly quickly in our cities despite piss poor drainage systems. Highly surfaced cities like Mumbai suffer from runoff water logging more than others despite having better drainage systems, OTOH west coast also gets lot more heavy rain due to western ghats.

BTW, these much touted Chinese sponge cities did get heavily waterlogged last year, including a very long flooded tunnel in once city (cant remember the name) where thousands of people are suspected to have died, drowning in their cars. CCP declared the zone off limits and exracted the bodies for days in buses with blacked to windows, and hushed up the whole affair and repressed all criticism of sponge cities. You can find those videos on the web.

But the real point remains: Urban planning, zoning, basic civic infra are a joke and very corrupt in India.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn943y8cnp4
Khalistani nutjobs now indulging in open hate at Taco Bell of all places

But sure, GOI can continue giving these nutjobs expedited visas to visit Punjab even when they explicitly ban Indian diplomatic mission staff from Gurudwaras. :roll:
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madhu wrote:
nandakumar wrote: To my knowledge, they are exempt from payment of property tax.
You mean they will not pay property tax but hindu trusts should pay? As much as i know hindu trust should pay income tax... What about income tax of wakf?

In the meantime, welcome to islamic Republic of india


Get NOC from local Jamaat to install Ganesha Idol in a Muslim-dominated area: Madras HC
I think Hindu temples are also exempt from payment of property tax.
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News (link) such as these seems to show that BIF has activated all possible agencies and the plan is to legalize ghettos and encourage mini-Islamist fiefdoms pretty much in every city & district. And the best part is that a supposedly pro-Hindu government is established at the Centre, who is unable to practically do any thing about these. An excellent strategy; as BJP in opposition was able to get stuff like Babri-Masjid demolition done with ease. So allow BJP to form the government which also forces them to strictly follow the rules (written by others).
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Sachin wrote:News (link) such as these seems to show that BIF has activated all possible agencies and the plan is to legalize ghettos and encourage mini-Islamist fiefdoms pretty much in every city & district. And the best part is that a supposedly pro-Hindu government is established at the Centre, who is unable to practically do any thing about these. An excellent strategy; as BJP in opposition was able to get stuff like Babri-Masjid demolition done with ease. So allow BJP to form the government which also forces them to strictly follow the rules (written by others).
This highlights why good cop-bad cop is so important...
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After yogiji, himantaji deployed bulldozers effectively:

https://m.republicworld.com/india-news/ ... izers.html
After Assam Police had arrested 14 people for supporting the Taliban, CM Himanta Biswa Sarma said that many more pro-Taliban people are on the watch list
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On Monday, a madrassa in Barpeta district of Assam that had alleged links with jihadi elements like was demolished by the administration.

“This is the second madrassa we have demolished in Assam as these institutions were being used as a hub for terrorism,” said Assam CM Himanta Biswa Sarma.
https://nenow.in/north-east-news/assam/ ... sarma.html

Madrasa institutions, which are basically schools for Muslims often part of a mosque have reportedly been kept shut on Fridays for ‘Jumma namaz’ or the Friday prayers.
Himanta further asserted that Madrasas will now be given only a half hour break for the Friday prayers instead of the entire day. However, some of the Muslim organisations lashed out at the state government for the move saying that it is meant to create hostility between people
It has to the notice of the government that some of the madrasas in certain districts are closed on Friday. It’s against the law. If this does not stop the government will not refrain from suspending the headmasters of such institutions,” Himanta said.
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https://twitter.com/SanggitaT/status/15 ... 9120183297

Don't know who the journalist is.. He sealed the efforts of Telangana CM who is on national tour to form a party against Modiji

Nitishwa and KCR ., all drama. NT is all fidgety like a Miss Universe contestant, standing up excited at every opportunity ..must see :((
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Sachin wrote:News (link) such as these seems to show that BIF has activated all possible agencies and the plan is to legalize ghettos and encourage mini-Islamist fiefdoms pretty much in every city & district. And the best part is that a supposedly pro-Hindu government is established at the Centre, who is unable to practically do any thing about these. An excellent strategy; as BJP in opposition was able to get stuff like Babri-Masjid demolition done with ease. So allow BJP to form the government which also forces them to strictly follow the rules (written by others).
Sachin Saar,
Actually in this situation, any elected govt can do very little. The constitution and govt of the country gives permission for any of the citizens to move and settle in the country (with certain exceptions in the tribal regions and sensitive ecological locations) as long as rules are followed. What will be helpful will be actions from people or from VHP or Bajrang dal types that are not in the govt directly or local citizens seeing to it that no rules are being bent to settle the peaceful kinds and the settled folks living along with everyone else and not try to block roads on Friday and some such while parallely trying to gather info on how the people are funded to be settled in certain locations.

What happened in Gurugram in the recent past when the local people opposed the namaziz is the park and eventually the Haryana govt also gave a statement not to disturb peace and the issue died down. You need the common people to take them on just as the peaceful try to show its a people issue (they keep hiding the NGO links and the commies/atheists that are pushing them in the background).

The hijab issue in Karnataka was also tackled a little in this manner. Govt will run itself thin in resources if they focus on every little issue when they have many things to tend to. It also paints a target on the back of the leader or party with the assorted gangs that will begin braying from abroad.

The perfect example of the same is the boycott of bollywood movies that is led by common people and not from BJP. The BJP can just point the PM's selfies with the actors itself to absolve themselves from the blame or BJP govts gave tax free status to Samrat Prithviraj Chauhan movie and the HM wishing the stars of the movie no less and yet it still failed.

This will lead to more awareness in people as they themselves will know whats going on rather than what some "secular news channel" spouts and also give a leeway for the party to keep functioning and on governance and not trying to check one community or the other for votes.
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Sachin wrote:
madhu wrote:Yes... There are 2 Idgah maidan... One in hubli and one in blore. Both are illegally occupied by peaceful people. They have no papers but they pray every year so they claim.
For the one in Bangalore, do the peacefool community have land records which show they have possession for the entire grounds? Or is it only for a small portion within the ground where there is some religious structure? And this time the seculars lost in Hubli, but I am sure next year seculars and Kapil Sibal would be in Supreme Court before time to settle that matter as well.
Sachin and Madhu Saar,
According to a journalist that i was watching the issue with Hubli land is that the land was given during the British rule times to the Muslim side to conduct their festivals/rituals for a couple of days a year and the rest of the days of the year the land is open for public use.

The locals had to file a case when the peacefuls claimed lordship over the entire land and it was eventually ruled against the peacefuls and they challenged it in higher courts with the final verdict coming in 2010 time frame from Supreme Court that the land is for open public. This didn't still resolve and the congress sided with the peaceful and even had done firing on the locals it seems on this issue.

People like the Ayubs simply will bray like the quam is in danger while being goaded by organizations like "Deendar Anjuman" which is radicalising local people with false info when they are clearly in the wrong in the hubli land case. I don't think the siculars going to court will give them anything, unless there is a change of govt in Karnataka when by default minorities have the first right of resources comes in.
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SC lashes out at Guj HC asks why Teesta Seetalvad has not been given bail so far
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 936684.cms
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kit wrote:https://twitter.com/SanggitaT/status/15 ... 9120183297

Don't know who the journalist is.. He sealed the efforts of Telangana CM who is on national tour to form a party against Modiji

Nitishwa and KCR ., all drama. NT is all fidgety like a Miss Universe contestant, standing up excited at every opportunity ..must see :((
These fellows - Nitishwa, Lalu Jr, Chandishaker Rao, Thakre, Muffler Sirji, Akhilesh etc - are all jokers and clowns of highest order. Hardly any of them have a combined vote share in even one state except maybe Bihar, so they can't help each other. Not only that, their own vote base is steadily getting eroded by the BJP. Finally, they are all either "family business" or "one man business" parties that exist only for corruption and draining public money. These fools will get another thrashing in LS 2024 and probably some of them will be kaput in state elections even before that. Why waste time on them.
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Bart S wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn943y8cnp4
Khalistani nutjobs now indulging in open hate at Taco Bell of all places

But sure, GOI can continue giving these nutjobs expedited visas to visit Punjab even when they explicitly ban Indian diplomatic mission staff from Gurudwaras. :roll:
The good news is that in the US, arrest and prosecution for such crimes seems swift. This one (and the other recent one in TX) is a shoo-in for a Title 1 federal hate crime. Contrary to conventional perception, the best defense in most of these situations is a smartphone, not a gun. Just let them talk and record it all.
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Fremont has a large Indian population. Unfortunately, there is also a large Khalistani population living here as well as in the neighboring city. They frequently disrupt 15th August parade and need police to shoo them off but come back like maggots every year.
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Nutjob is an interesting description.

This person does not seem to know that vegetarianism is as desired a cultural goal amongst Sikhs as panjabi Hindus. I do not know of any langar anywhere at any time where meat has been served. I don’t think meat eating Sikhs eat beef, in general.

Often Rajputs consume meat. The Vedic ancestors likely ate beef.

One characteristic of certain types of mental illness is hyper religiosity, another is paranoia. Schizophrenia may often encompass both. Sikhs are often singled out and othered in the west. This may be because of their appearance, including often being burly and wearing beards and turbans. Their often limited English doesn’t help. This is in contrast to the meek Hindu whose language, education and appearance present a more benign image. I wonder if this person falls in some such category.

A personal note is that when interacting with an educated, shaven Sikh, I do not even register their identity.
That may well be the problem, that the fear is that upper castes will revert just as the lower castes are going the hallelujah way.
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Vedic people eating beef is a British invasion where after 1857, all whites came from Central Asia, and Indian Civilization started in Pakjab, race theory is very much part of these beliefs, it's time such thoughts are put in the Dustbin.
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venkat_kv wrote: Sachin and Madhu Saar,
According to a journalist that i was watching the issue with Hubli land is that the land was given during the British rule times to the Muslim side to conduct their festivals/rituals for a couple of days a year and the rest of the days of the year the land is open for public use.

The locals had to file a case when the peacefuls claimed lordship over the entire land and it was eventually ruled against the peacefuls and they challenged it in higher courts with the final verdict coming in 2010 time frame from Supreme Court that the land is for open public. This didn't still resolve and the congress sided with the peaceful and even had done firing on the locals it seems on this issue.

People like the Ayubs simply will bray like the quam is in danger while being goaded by organizations like "Deendar Anjuman" which is radicalising local people with false info when they are clearly in the wrong in the hubli land case. I don't think the siculars going to court will give them anything, unless there is a change of govt in Karnataka when by default minorities have the first right of resources comes in.
yes this is partly true, Anjuman-e-Islam, got a 999-year lease of the land in 1921 for rupee 1 and was allowed to hold Eid prayers twice a year with a condition that no permanent structure will be erected. but this was violated in 1990 when AeI decided to construct mosque like structure wall sitting that this is essential for prayer. this created big issue with VHP and AeI. senior BJP leaders announcing that they would unfurl the tricolor at the maidan on Republic Day in 1992 and things went full violent because AeI sited worship of place act stating this is there land and cannot hoist national flag.

here is the extract from the book The "New BJP: Modi and the Making of the World's Largest Political Party: The Remaking of the World's Largest Political Party"
Sure enough, a case was filed in a local court against the police for insulting the national flag. The BJP, the RSS and the VHP set up a Rashtra Dhwaj Gaurav Sanrakshan Committee (Committee for Protecting the Honour of the National Flag).54 What had begun as a local property dispute now became a larger controversy that involved the national flag. The Sanrakshan Committee declared that it did not care who hoisted the flag as long as it was hoisted—implying that refusal to allow flying the tricolour on the disputed spot by anyone was problematic—and the matter turned into a political flashpoint.55 The state government took a limited, legalistic view, thus playing into the BJP’s hands. As an official told reporters at the time, ‘The collection of a crowd was what aggravated the Ayodhya problem. We are not apprehending an Ayodhya-type situation but we are convinced that once people are allowed to collect at a place, it could lead to trouble.’ The legal view was that, since the Idgah Maidan was disputed property, nobody could hoist a flag in it. ‘Even the Anjumane-Islam has no right to hoist a flag there,’ local officials argued. ‘If anyone wants to hoist a flag, they can do so in places specified by the flag code, but not on a disputed land.’56 Records from that time show that the state government’s decisions on the Idgah Maidan issue were directly monitored not just by the Congress chief minister but also by Prime Minister Narasimha Rao, with Union minister Sikandar Bakht acting as his eyes and ears on the controversy. Between 1992 and 1995, the BJP made five abortive bids to hoist a flag at the Idgah Maidan. It became a rallying point for party leaders across the state and a powerful magnet for the leading lights of the Ayodhya movement. Uma Bharti, for example, was barred from entering the state in 1994. She somehow managed to reach Hubli before she was arrested by the local police. ‘I was arrested before I entered the Idgah maidan,’ she later recalled. ‘I didn’t hoist the national flag and had not made any provocative speech … In the entire country this was the only place where hoisting the national flag was banned.’57 Soon after her arrest, four people were killed and over a hundred injured when the police opened fire to disperse a 5,000-strong crowd that had gathered at the Sawai Gandharva Hall in Hubli’s Deshpande Nagar after being turned away from flag-hoisting. The BJP called for a ‘black day’ The Idgah controversy was finally put to rest politically by H.D. Deve Gowda when he was chief minister in 1995. After an all-party meeting, he persuaded the AeI itself to hoist the national flag at the maidan. Yediyurappa had threatened a dharna with all forty BJP MLAs and a state-wide Hubli-chalo agitation if the issue was not resolved,64 so Gowda’s was a prudent solution albeit at a much lower temperature. Legally, the case reached its denouement in 2010, when a two member bench of the Supreme Court upheld the orders of the lower courts and ordered the demolition of the AeI structure. The apex court also ruled that the ground was the exclusive property of the HDMC, with the AeI having the right to conduct prayers twice a year
( page 506-506 )
but i dont think this structure has been demolished till date. (i might be wrong, but photos in paper still show it)
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Meanwhile SuSwamy has got another petition listed in Supreme Court.
Subramanian Swamy's Plea To Delete "Socialism" & "Secularism" From Preamble To Constitution : Supreme Court To Hear On Sep 23

Supreme Court grants interim bail to activist Teesta Setalvad in Gujarat riots case. "A bench of Chief Justice U U Lalit and Justices S Ravindra Bhat and Sudhanshu Dhulia took into consideration the fact the petitioner was a woman.." :roll:. Heard that R.B Sreekumar is planning for a sex-change operation ;).
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BhikuMhatre @MumbaichaDon

CBI arrests SC Lawyer Gautam Khaitan for $5.6 Million kickbacks in $210 Million Embraer Aircraft Deal.
Khaitan is ALSO accused of Money Laundering in UPA's AGUSTA-WESTLAND case.
FYI..Khaitan is part of CHANDIGARH LOBBY led by @rwac48 rejoicing Sad Demise of CDS Bipin Rawat Sir!
Some day want to see Vrinda Grover, Prashant Bhushan and Dushant Dave in jail
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TACTICS

https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1556602360356491264
iMac_too @iMac_too
What Sibal & gang are doing is their standard practice before a new CJI is about to take charge. Bullying. If you remember Gogoi ji's post retirement interviews, he has mentioned about it explicitly

https://twitter.com/LiveLawIndia/status ... 5534377984
Live Law @LiveLawIndia
"Supreme Court Crossed All Lines" - Dushyant Dave On Action Against Teesta Setalvad, Upholding PMLA.
https://twitter.com/republic/status/1557586589731401731
Republic @republic
#BREAKING | After Kapil Sibal; Prashant Bhushan questions Supreme Court, names judges. Tune in to watch here -


GOVERNMENT ACTION
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SC REACTION

https://twitter.com/moneycontrolcom/sta ... 5547072514

Moneycontrol @moneycontrolcom

On August 24, the SC ruled on the validity of certain provisions of the Benami Transactions (Prohibition) Act, 2016, & quashed criminal proceedings for dealings that transpired from 1988 to 2016
Read at
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Live Law @LiveLawIndia
#BREAKING Supreme Court grants bail to Teesta Setalvad

#TeestaSetalvad #SupremeCourt #SupremeCourtOfIndia
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https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punja ... lk_of_town

“Some so-called Christian missionaries have cropped up in the state. They convert Sikhs by alluring them fraudulently — a practice not permitted in Christianity. Although there are legal provisions to book those who indulge in such practises in the name of religion, vote bank politics prevent governments from taking action,” he said today.
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^^ So they can fight the center and block highways for months yet are unable to take care of xtian missionaries on their backyard.
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Bashing of PM and avoid meeting him when he visits the states by state CM and his ministers , the way KCR ,KTR are doing is it constitutionally right? it is getting bit too much by TRS. Why Modi ji is not teaching a lesson or two...i have not seen this much of arrogance and indiscipline by any CM before PMs so far...
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NaMo is teaching a lesson. He pulled the mat under their feet by taking over the Telangana liberation day events. TRS is stumped and doesnt know what to do. To join in under BJP lead of the event or to stay out and become anti-Telangana. Excellent move by BJP.

Several central ministers are also regularly seen visiting TS these days, even Fin Min NS who doesnt particularly get down and canvass is meeting people and speaking about central schemes and attacking TRS.

I think there is a reason behind NaMo's directing full attention to TS and BJP going all out for the next state elections. With the crackdown on peacefuls and illegal migrants in Assam, UP etc. a lot of jehadi elements will concentrate in Hyd/TS in the coming months. If TS is BJP ruled, they can be dealt with effectively. Compared to other Non-BJP states like WB & KL, TS is a winnable state.
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A full-on mea-culpa by the editor at TOILet

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 974281.cms
However, Medha and her fellow critics have been proven dead wrong.
TOILet needs to be taken to court for being on the wrong side and delaying the development of a state by resorting to unscrupulous means. This was a crime against the state.
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People talk about AAP picking over from the CONgoon carcass and ruling India or significant chunks of it. Well, AAPtards are vultures and of course, they will feed on the corpse of CONgoons. It is but natural.

However, extending a few vocal wokes rooting for AAPtards on their social media to the rest of the country (and just because Delhi and its extension Punjab voted differently) is a little bit rich.

Here is the faux pas by AAP/Kejru

https://www.opindia.com/2022/09/medha-p ... -kejriwal/
Delhi Chief Minister and Aam Aadmi Party chief Arvind Kejriwal is visiting Gujarat over next two days and is expected to meet the AAP candidates for upcoming state assembly elections in the state. Sources in the know say that after the reports emerged that Medha Patkar will likely be the chief minister candidate for AAP in Gujarat, 13 out of 19 leaders who were given the ticket for upcoming elections have decided to quit the party. Kejriwal is likely to hold a meeting on Friday evening to pacify them.
You see, Medha Patkar (and Arundhati Roy etc) are persona non-grata in Gujarat. Three generations of Gujaratis suffered & thousands died due to the Urban Naxal termites.

The problem with AAPtards is that they believe in their own media-created delusions. Just the name of Medha Patkar as a proposal created such a ruckus. I do hope, Kejru runs roughshod and actually runs with Medha Patkar as the face of CM. They will lose Gujarat for another generation!

To collect BIF funds, Kejru must propose Arundhati Roy as Dy. CM candidate for AAP in Gujarat.

Now here is the frontline supporting the Narmada Bachao Andolan: https://frontline.thehindu.com/environm ... 730806.ece


Just connect the dots:

1. Magsaysay award: Started by CIA
2. Magsaysay award winner: Medha Patkar
3. Arundhati Roy and her ilk supporting terrorist Geelani in Cashmere
4. Robin Raphael supporting her boys on Cashmere.
5. Hillary Clinton connected with Teesta
6. Zakia Jafri and Teesta
...
...

And this is what Medha is capable off: https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/fir-aga ... -children/

BTW, here are some supporters of such Urban Naxals in India:

https://www.goldmanprize.org/our-team/
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Welcome to islamic republic of india....
Anand Ranganathan @ARanganathan72 Sep 3
An eye-opening, spine-chilling conversation between
@SushantBSinha and @Vishnu_Jain1 that confirms, if at all confirmation was needed, that Hindus have been systematically and comprehensively reduced to being third class citizens in their own country
https://twitter.com/ARanganathan72/stat ... blUPsyyhKg

Btw heard that our new kalifa from Hyderabad wants to bring a blasphemy law similar to one in pakistan on gustake rasool ke saza... Not sure if true or just rumours ...
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Sanjay Dixit of Jaipur Dialogs had a lawyer guest (same one? cant be sure) a year or two ago, who exposed the monstrosity the Wakf Act 1995 is, in a very detailed discussion. Neither Hizzoners nor law ministers nor BJP and the parivar are interested in taking this up. I think even the Muslim community might not be fully aware of the sweeping unchallenged powers they have been given with this act.

It will be interesting to research how this act came about, who drafted it, brought it to the Lok Sabha, what debate happened, and how it got passed. And what compulsions made PVNR to let this happen under this watch.
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Karnataka Hijab Ban- Supreme Court Hearing
Justice Gupta : There are schools run by Christians? Are they allowing Hijab?
AG : They are not.
Hegde : Some are allowing.

And the stupidity of argument begins. The more this goes on the more you-know-who & TheOneWhoShouldNotBeNamed gets exposed.

Lets stop these nonsence for ever and declare india to be islamic state... If secular then why not follow secular path. Why this type of "dhobi ka kutta". Once checking what is xtian doing? Is it in quran? What hadith or bible says? Etc....

As per hadith true muslims are

Narrated Abu Huraira:The Verse:--"You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind." means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam. Sahih al-Bukhari 4557

So will courts allow this? If every student can go in there religious dress, then whats the purpose of UNIFORM in school?
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KA HC did a good job and kept things calm without giving in. Now the SC doesn't seem to be going in the right direction.
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Madhya Pradesh: Massive scam unearthed in state government's free food nutrition programme
A massive scam of the Madhya Pradesh government's nutrition programme for children has been unearthed, at the risk of leaving them malnourished and costing taxpayers crores of rupees, says the state's own auditor.

The Accountant General of Madhya Pradesh has found that corruption has taken place on a large scale in the Women and Child Development Department under the direct supervision of Chief Minister Shivraj Singh Chouhan.

Fake Transport Used - Further investigation revealed that the rations transport trucks mentioned in the reports turned out allegedly to be motorcycles.

The scale of the scam was such that the trucks that six manufacturing plants or firms claimed to have used to have transported 1,125.64 metric tons of rations costing ₹ 6.94 crores, were found registered as motorcycles, cars, autos and tankers upon verification from the transport department records.

Fake Anganwadis: During the audit, it was found that at 49 Anganwadi centres in eight districts, only three out-of-school girls were registered. However, under the same 49 Aanganwadi centres, the WCD department listed 63,748 girls and claimed to have helped 29,104 of them during 2018-21.

This indicates the extent of data manipulation, leading to the falsified distribution of rations worth ₹ 110.83 crores.

Over 30 lakh fake beneficiaries: Despite being asked by the central and state governments to complete a survey for the identification of out of schoolgirls eligible for rations by April 2018, the Women and Child Development (WCD) Department did not manage to finish it till February 2021.
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madhu wrote:Karnataka Hijab Ban- Supreme Court Hearing
Justice Gupta : There are schools run by Christians? Are they allowing Hijab?
AG : They are not.
Hegde : Some are allowing.

And the stupidity of argument begins. The more this goes on the more you-know-who & TheOneWhoShouldNotBeNamed gets exposed.

Lets stop these nonsence for ever and declare india to be islamic state... If secular then why not follow secular path. Why this type of "dhobi ka kutta". Once checking what is xtian doing? Is it in quran? What hadith or bible says? Etc....

As per hadith true muslims are

Narrated Abu Huraira:The Verse:--"You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind." means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam. Sahih al-Bukhari 4557

So will courts allow this? If every student can go in there religious dress, then whats the purpose of UNIFORM in school?
Unbelievable ... These eminent people are legitimizing shariat law (child marriage, blasphemy, now hijab in schools) all without any constitutional backup. I think they are doing this Govt and trip them up with social upheaval and take their focus away from economic development
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I’ve lost hope for India and Hindus. Jaichands have managed to create many such Islamist ghettos in India and completely displaced local Hindu population.
In my recent visit to Uttarakhand I was shocked to see the influx of peacefuls in places like Uttarkashi and Haridwar. They’ve established themselves in many places with a mix of BD, Rohingyas and UP peacefuls all collaborating. I predict that devbhoomi will be lost within a generation :(.
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