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Indian Democracy at 75: Who Are the Barbarians at the Gate?

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/202 ... -the-gate/

I found the article interesting.

"Although India does face challenges, the stridently negative appraisals of Indian democracy published by the three major democracy rating organisations seem wildly disproportionate to the actual evidence marshalled to support them. In several instances, they smack of intentional deception. Given that all three organisations rely heavily on expert evaluations, it is difficult to escape the suggestion that they may have unwittingly (or perhaps even wittingly) been drawn into taking sides in India’s domestic politics. It is well-established that intellectuals overwhelmingly hold liberal and socialist (as opposed to conservative) political affiliations, and that this bias is strongest among the elite humanities and social science intellectuals who are likely to populate the expert pool for democracy evaluations.[25] India’s BJP is not only conservative in orientation, but generally perceived to be religious, nationalist, and anti-intellectual. It would come as no surprise if the pool of experts who were asked by the EIU, V-DEM, and Freedom House to evaluate Indian democracy strongly preferred other parties over the BJP.

No expert is unbiased, and it is inevitable that any properly-credentialed pool of democracy experts would be disproportionately atheist, internationalist, pro-intellectual, and of a liberal or socialist bent. But experts have a responsibility to strive for objectivity by being aware of their biases and consciously struggling to overcome them. The narrative justifications that accompany the international rankings of Indian democracy show little evidence of such humble reflexivity. Instead, they are suffused with wanton speculation, misleading statistics, and uncritical reproductions of activist accusations. It is entirely appropriate to criticise Indian democracy for its faults and to urge positive reforms, but to argue (as V-DEM does) that in 2021 India was substantially less democratic than such troubled countries as Argentina, Armenia, South Africa, and Sri Lanka is patently absurd. The lack of any compelling case against Indian democracy reflects very poorly on the three major international democracy rating organisations. The least they could do in commemoration of independent India’s 75th anniversary is offer an apology to the country—and to its proper rulers, the Indian people."
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We have to stop this. Vigilante incident are never good for democracy. Yes they have reason for that. That is true.
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Another day and another Indic channel deleted by YouTube. Sab lokatantra channel was deleted and it’s owner banned. Meanwhile the German Shepherd keeps on barking.
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https://sirfnews.com/post/temple-land-f ... -in-odisha
Temple land freed of state control, returned to Hindu trust, in Odisha
In a development that would warm the cockles of the collective Hindu heart, land spread across 143 ac, which once belonged entirely to Lord Lingaraj Temple Trust but had in the course of history taken over by local administrations (tehsils), have been returned to the temple trust. The plots were in different mouzas in Bhubaneswar and on the outskirts of the capital of Odisha.

GVV Sarma, a member of the Board of Revenue, directed the authority on 29 September to return the land to the temple trust after the final hearing of the case.
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If this is true, Govt. should use it to impeach him or reject his candidature for CJI for making his own laws
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^^ Is this true for men too? Do they have the right to have sex outside marriage? If yes, the entire law against adultery is invalidated. Amazing how casually the unelected judges make their own laws in India.
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As far as I can recall, the constitutionality of Section 497 of the Indian Penal Code which made adultery a criminal offence was decided way back in 2018. The SC Bench led by Dipak Misra then struck it down as it violated the Constitutional principle that no person can be discriminated on grounds of gender. The Section 497 does precisely that as it makes the man criminally liable for committing adultery while the woman herself who willingly engaged herself in the act is not liable even as an abettor in the crime. It is true that Justice Chandrachud was also a member of the Bench. But then it was an unanimous judgment and Chandrachud wrote a separate but concurring judgment. So not sure what is the news report from The Hindu all about. It doesn't bear a date stamp.
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NYTimes has a report on the recent UK violence and guess where the problem is? India!
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RaGa's BJ yatra needs to be closely monitored and GOI should ensure his safety as he moves around various parts of the country. As the Gandhi surname is entering its last phase of useful life, the handlers of CON party might think about getting the last drop of juice out of it by creating a sympathy wave. It would be perfect timing if something was to happen to RG in UP or Gujarat towards the end phase of the yatra, in time for 2024 GE. Things are so desperate for BIF that nothing can be ruled out at this stage. If they can not carry out a direct hit on NaMo in time, then this is the second best option.
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If one said may be the learned Hizzoner was speaking based on his own or his family's personal experience, would that be contempt of court?
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Dilbu wrote:RaGa's BJ yatra needs to be closely monitored and GOI should ensure his safety as he moves around various parts of the country. As the Gandhi surname is entering its last phase of useful life, the handlers of CON party might think about getting the last drop of juice out of it by creating a sympathy wave. It would be perfect timing if something was to happen to RG in UP or Gujarat towards the end phase of the yatra, in time for 2024 GE. Things are so desperate for BIF that nothing can be ruled out at this stage. If they can not carry out a direct hit on NaMo in time, then this is the second best option.
Nehru family is a distant memory for most of India. I doubt anyone born 1990+ even connects with them. Not to mention the Pappu moniker that’s permanently etched on his forehead.
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vimal wrote:
Dilbu wrote:RaGa's BJ yatra needs to be closely monitored and GOI should ensure his safety as he moves around various parts of the country. As the Gandhi surname is entering its last phase of useful life, the handlers of CON party might think about getting the last drop of juice out of it by creating a sympathy wave. It would be perfect timing if something was to happen to RG in UP or Gujarat towards the end phase of the yatra, in time for 2024 GE. Things are so desperate for BIF that nothing can be ruled out at this stage. If they can not carry out a direct hit on NaMo in time, then this is the second best option.
Nehru family is a distant memory for most of India. I doubt anyone born 1990+ even connects with them. Not to mention the Pappu moniker that’s permanently etched on his forehead.
"Rahul Gandhi.. Bharat Chhodo.."

Leave India..
Now even Congress workers have started saying

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I did not know that this Venkatesh Prasad fellow is such a Hinduvadi.

https://twitter.com/venkateshprasad/sta ... GipQNoUAgg
ॐ जयंती मंगला काली भद्रकाली कपालिनी
दुर्गा क्षमा शिवा धात्री स्वाहा स्वधा नमोऽस्तु‍ते ।

#DurgAshtami wishes to everyone. Jai Mata Di!
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New manchurian candidate in Bihar - Sri Prashant Kishore
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Reason why BIF dont want real indian history - because it is based on sanatana dharma. All kinds of nut cases are spouting non sense.

https://news.rediff.com/commentary/2022 ... b8a30b484b
Then, Kamal Hassan echoed similar sentiments and said, "There was no name called 'Hindu religion' during Raja Raja Cholan's period.
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All this is congnitive dissonance onlee... We cannot stop the march is hindu consciousness in TN....
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^Informative thread on whether the Cholas were Hindus.
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The fact that we have to discuss even this is sad. :(
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Yes, the imaginary Arya-Dravid/Tamil divide is a long-standing BIF project just like the Hindu-Sikh divide. Several well-meaning Indians believe these divisions to be true without digging further.
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and the sad fact is that it is all cooked up and that initial meeting where some british proposes this theory and also the intention to use it as a dividing tool is well documented and acknowledged, just that only handful of people are aware of it. This scam is similar to well documented fact how calculus knowledge was stolen from sanskrit text by Isaac Newton and Gottfried Leibniz but not well publicized, OR how algebra and numeral system is actually Indian in origin (little well publicized) or how there was no grammar in English till they saw Panini grammar and force fit it into English, or concept of public school and university was borrowed from Gurukula...list is long, ...Give it to the Marxist historians, british agents left behind (and I am not referring to Lehru ji) or the 4 mughal education ministers from 1947 to 1977 that made it disappear from the Indian conscience as well.
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<OT> Miss posts by Chola ji on the military threads. He would keep a close eye on the Chinese Mil.

Hope he resumes</OT>
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vimal wrote:I did not know that this Venkatesh Prasad fellow is such a Hinduvadi.

https://twitter.com/venkateshprasad/sta ... GipQNoUAgg
ॐ जयंती मंगला काली भद्रकाली कपालिनी
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Why do we need to assume he or anyone else is NOT by default and then be surprised? Over the past decade I have noticed that the Hindu inside many many Indians' hearts and minds is very much alive, increasingly conscious and has started expressing him/herself. Not just to confront adharmis, but Hindutva at its core is a joyful celebration of life in all its manifestations. It induces no original sin, no fear of retribution if arbitrary rules are not adhered to. It tells you the best is in and around you and that you can extract it as per your efforts. Helps you find meaning and purpose in life without prejudice to any reasonable choice you are free to make. Warns you of the 6 enemies within (arishadvarga) and encourages self critic and improvement.

No matter how much we have been colonised, subjugated, these core tenets have endured without compulsion because they are the most natural therefore scientific outlooks one can have about human life and metaphysics. In a million different ways, dispersed in our customs, rituals, practices, traditions, festivals, prayers, texts, proverbs, imagery, icons, art forms, epics, stories and folklore they are everywhere.

Even in the Hindu unconscious, dharmic consciousness lives on.
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Cyrano wrote: Even in the Hindu unconscious, dharmic consciousness lives on.
This is why we have survived and why we will continue to survive....
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Cyrano wrote:
vimal wrote:I did not know that this Venkatesh Prasad fellow is such a Hinduvadi.

https://twitter.com/venkateshprasad/sta ... GipQNoUAgg
Why do we need to assume he or anyone else is NOT by default and then be surprised?..
With due respect, Cyrano ji, he is the exception rather than the rule.

Please check how many of our other sports stars are non-wokes. Especially the cricketers.

The professional management agencies who manage their affairs are without exception 'international' image conscious and ensure that the communication which comes from the sports persons is as per certain 'expectations'.

Add to it cricket, as compared to other sports (hockey is the only other sport jihadistan played), has for long been kept a hostage of the 'Aman ka Tamasha', 'Sports and Politics must be kept separate' agendas.
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Govt. asks CJI to name new CJI ... Chandrachud or someone else?
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^^i believed that Hindu contributions to humankind’s intellectual culture were overlooked. They are in fact suppressed.


I would like to see Indian launch a movement to call Arab numerals what the arabs call them. They call them Hindu numerals. Put Panini’s epigrammatic a not equal to a
On stamps. If they still have those things.
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sanjaykumar wrote:^^i believed that Hindu contributions to humankind’s intellectual culture were overlooked. They are in fact suppressed.


I would like to see Indian launch a movement to call Arab numerals what the arabs call them. They call them Hindu numerals. Put Panini’s epigrammatic a not equal to a
On stamps. If they still have those things.
My take on this:
1) F*ck "humankind".
2) From now on, Hindus for Hindus only, Hindus first and Hindus last. This is the entire premise of my love for Bharat.
3) Expect zero from others. Pleading for "just behaviour" from others is a sheer waste of time.
4) Focus on building up the capacity to incentivize others when their attitude goes above zero, and punish them when their attitude falls below zero.

Don't be manipulated by their carrots and sticks-- by their praising your civilization at some times, ignoring its contributions at other times, and bashing it wholesale through atrocity propaganda at still other times. The whole point of their praising/ignoring/bashing is to manipulate your emotions and make you dance to their tune.

See through the game, and develop the tools and capacity to make them dance to your tune. That is one thing the Chinese have done very, very well.
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Certainly. Money talks. India’s job is to get rich. All else will follow.


I can see that confidence developing. They are beginning to smirk at Pakistanis on YouTube interviews. They will graduate to include others in their withering woke analysis. Hell, uncomfortable questions are being asked of Muslims in India, those that were carefully exempted from the political discourse. They will use the principles of wokism and not just hindutva in their reckoning. I do not believe they will spare anyone.


But first they need to grow rich.
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sanjaykumar wrote:Certainly. Money talks. India’s job is to get rich. All else will follow.


I can see that confidence developing. They are beginning to smirk at Pakistanis on YouTube interviews. They will graduate to include others in their withering woke analysis. Hell, uncomfortable questions are being asked of Muslims in India, those that were carefully exempted from the political discourse. They will use the principles of wokism and not just hindutva in their reckoning. I do not believe they will spare anyone.


But first they need to grow rich.
The number of articles against Adani, Ambani, Kartvyapath, Farmer laws, PLI schemes in every rag tag fake news is unbelievable.

Look at how Nobel prize rumor for dumb fake news jihadis was advertised by TIME magazine.
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The RSS chief said as much - our job is to eradicate poverty - all else will follow automatically.
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V_Raman wrote:The RSS chief said as much - our job is to eradicate poverty - all else will follow automatically.
Poverty alleviation is imp but it won't guarantee India's stability. This can only come about if India creates and keeps talent in India and creates a conducive environment for r&d and manufacturing. In order to accomplish this, our civil services needs to be done away with and education needs a serious revamp.

Politically the powers that be have chosen to work through a democratic framework to make this happen without any major structural reforms so it's unlikely India can pull it off. My prediction is things will get very bad and then a jolt to the system will happen. It will also most likely happen from the pan-islamic movement which is beginning to mature. Hatred tends to increase focus.
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An inspection of the numbers of IIT graduates going abroad may be instructive.

India may be at an inflection point.

One can expect this to be used as a fulcrum by those not entirely well disposed towards India. Xi may have realised this in Galwan.others will follow suit.
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Centre Appoints Commission To Examine Possibility Of SC Status To Dalit Converts: A Change Of Heart? (Outlook)
Don't know what is the grand chanakyan plan. Extending reservation benefits to Dalit Converts is only going to make the life of Hindu Dalits even more miserable. The converted groups will get good support from the organized religions to which they converted in the first place. And these two organised religions always insisted that people converted to escape caste based atrocities which only existed in Hinduism. That myth is now getting busted as well.

'Freebies': EC’s U-turn is uncalled for.
The 'U-turn' mentioned here is actually EC growing a spine and now saying that it would ask political parties on how they plan to finance the schemes which they have promised. Earlier in Supreme Court, EC had said that it did not wish to be part of the committee which was to check on poll promises and 'freebies'.
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sanjaykumar wrote:An inspection of the numbers of IIT graduates going abroad may be instructive.

India may be at an inflection point.

One can expect this to be used as a fulcrum by those not entirely well disposed towards India. Xi may have realised this in Galwan.others will follow suit.
Can u post data about the iit grads ?
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gakakkad wrote:
sanjaykumar wrote:An inspection of the numbers of IIT graduates going abroad may be instructive.

India may be at an inflection point.

One can expect this to be used as a fulcrum by those not entirely well disposed towards India. Xi may have realised this in Galwan.others will follow suit.
Can u post data about the iit grads ?
Speaking to some IIT grads in the US, most in computer science and critical engineering fields come to West. Things are getting worse for healthcare as well with physicians and now dentists flocking here for better opportunities.

There seems to be some kind of psychological affliction which most Indians even in the strategic community have. They believe the colonial era civil services is essential to the functioning of the state and has undergone enough reform to bring about profound change.

A hypothesis from SN Balagangadhara states that we have inherited servility from Islamic colonialism in which secularized Islam replaced Allah with the leader and the civil service who carries out his will. For the British this was cake as we were primed for a second colonization. The rot may have even started before they invaded.

It's not enough that we build a temple here and there or come up with lofty goals of decolonization. We need to seriously introspect why Indians have become such jealous push overs and suck ups to the point where we treat our talent and their creative output as a liability. I think this is the first step.
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Apparently only a few hundred out of thousands went abroad in 2021. Possibly pandemic related.
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Not even 200 of the approximate 10,000 students from the Indian Institutes of Technology took up positions outside India last year. Fifty students, who make up the largest contingent, will be leaving from IIT-Bombay, followed by 40 from Delhi, 25 from Kharagpur, 19 from Kanpur, 13 from Madras, 17 from Roorkee and five from Guwahati. In 2012, 84 IIT-B candidates had accepted international job offers.
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