2021 Five State Elections

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Satta Bazar on WB Phase-5:

TMC = 13
BJP = 25
INC+LF+ISF = 3

Total toss up = 4
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Kati wrote:With a possible sweep in the election, BJP leadership is already chalking out a dream ministry - a bunch of highly accomplished and very competent faces.

CM's position is still a mystery - Dilip Ghosh is a dark horse.

1. But the top five positions include possibly two Deputy CMs - one from the South Bengal, and one from North Bengal (a valid idea, since north is often neglected). Possibly Shubhendu Adhikari (representing the south) and Nishit Pramanik (representing the north).
Among the five top faces, I already mentioned about Dr. Ashok Lahiri - an accomplished economist and held top GoI posts. Dr. Lahiri will be entrusted to take care of the economic revival not only for WB, but also for the whole eastern Bharat.
Next is the Home Minister (including Police department), and it is likely to be held by Lietenant General Subrata Saha (who held vital operational responsibility in Kashmir). It is learnt that Both NaMo and AS want Lt. Gen. Saha take a hard look at the long international border, and make sure that the border is fully plugged, illegal infiltration and jihadi activities are checked as much as possible. The top fibe also includes one of the two women's names - Smt. Locket Chatterjee and Smt. Meena Devi Purohit.

2. Next is the most critical eight names who will hold important cabinet posts (provided they win their respective seats):
Mukul Roy
Banul Supriyo
Swapan Dasgupta
Rahul Sinha
Rantideb Sengupta
Rajib Bandyopadhyay
Mukut Mani Adhikary
Shamik Bhattacharya

3. If Smt Mafuja Khatun wins her seat (Sagardighi) (a tough call) then she will definitely find a berth in the ministry. This has energized the local party workers. Smt. Khatun is one of the nine minority candidates fielded by BJP this time.

4. Each minister will be given a fixed target for the first hundred days, and after that a hard analysis will take place with the central leadership. Based on that analysis, the ministry might be reshuffled and/or expanded.

5, Dr. Shyama Prasad Mukherjee's birthplace is Bengal, and hence BJP is throwing all in its disposal to this Bengal election. If this election is won, It is going to send a powerful message to the far corners of the country. That's why all the top central leaders are visiting the state almost every other day.
Lets not put the cart before the horse
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Kati Sir what happened to Rupali Ganguly, she seems to have gone into submarine mode
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Swapan Dasgupta is not CM material.

the leadership is not too enamoured of him.

He had a string of demands and the very first one was that he be made Indian high commissioner to the UK. This was soon after the BJP won the 2014 elections.

thereafter, he kept cribbing and was given some very lucrative company directorships and in spite of that, he kept whining for more.

and finally there came a time when he was told to piss off.

he seems to have started pushing again.
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I know this is a far fetched Idea, but what bout this man. If he agrees can he be an acceptable candidate for all. He has a clean image but can he be a god administrator.

https://www.firstpost.com/india/after-y ... 97851.html
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asbchakri wrote:I know this is a far fetched Idea, but what bout this man. If he agrees can he be an acceptable candidate for all. He has a clean image but can he be a god administrator.

https://www.firstpost.com/india/after-y ... 97851.html
First sign from opposition of their failure. Now they want to figure out the CM candidate and hence testing the waters or trying to meddle. Watch out as more such newspaper stories will start to appear in the coming days.
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suryag wrote:Kati Sir what happened to Rupali Ganguly, she seems to have gone into submarine mode
You mean - Smt. Rupa Ganguly, right?

A very very talented and flamboyant personality, yet down to earth. She is an very good singer, an accomplished dancer, and a very good actor. Also, she played the rile of Draupadi in Mahabharata, and hence she has a pan-Indian appeal.
I was a bit surprised when her name didn't figure out on the state candidate list, but again not very surprising.

She didn't get along well with Dilip Ghosh (state party prez), and as the head of the state Mahila Morcha she was in constant friction with some other leaders too. She is very sophisticated compated to some other rustic street fighter party leaders. But she herself is also a street fighter. But somehow the chemistry didn't match, and hence she was shunted out of the state, made a Rajya Sabha member - perhaps to play a larger role at the national politics. Unlike most of the state party leaders, she is equally fluent in Bengali, Hindi and English, and hence she meshes well with the central leadership. Anyway, I guess the trouble started wth Dilip Ghosh when she was invited by the Bangladesh govt (perhaps a trap), and then she made very charitable comments about Bangladesh.

At one point she was thought as the BJP's answer to Mumtaaz Banoo. .... Then the Mumtaaz Banoo got her son arrested for a traffic accident, and framed it as drunk driving.... She has had her cup of woes full too after going through a nasty divorce.

Long story short, she was taken to Delhi, and Smt. Locket Chatterjee was made the Mahila Morcha prez.
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asbchakri wrote:I know this is a far fetched Idea, but what bout this man. If he agrees can he be an acceptable candidate for all. He has a clean image but can he be a god administrator.

https://www.firstpost.com/india/after-y ... 97851.html
This Swami nixed the idea of him being the CM face.

I guess it was a media ploy to create rift with the state unit.
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chetak wrote:Swapan Dasgupta is not CM material.

the leadership is not too enamoured of him.

He had a string of demands and the very first one was that he be made Indian high commissioner to the UK. This was soon after the BJP won the 2014 elections.

thereafter, he kept cribbing and was given some very lucrative company directorships and in spite of that, he kept whining for more.

and finally there came a time when he was told to piss off.

he seems to have started pushing again.
Swapan-da is NOT the CM face, first and foremost.

He is actually in a tough fight at Tarakeshwar seat (the place of the famous Tarakeshwar Shiva Temple). Central leaders are visiting his constituency regularly to shore up support for him. If he gets elected, then two portfolios will be suitable for him - Education ministry (very likely), or Information & Cultural ministry (a very important ministry in Bengal for which there will be a few other claimants too).
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chetak wrote:Swapan Dasgupta is not CM material.

the leadership is not too enamoured of him.

He had a string of demands and the very first one was that he be made Indian high commissioner to the UK. This was soon after the BJP won the 2014 elections.

thereafter, he kept cribbing and was given some very lucrative company directorships and in spite of that, he kept whining for more.

and finally there came a time when he was told to piss off.

he seems to have started pushing again.
I think you are confusing with Chandan Mitra.
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Swapan Dasgupta does have his network in the UK from his Oxford days.

Also, Chandan Mitra resigned from Rajya Sabha, wasn't it? Was it because of his aspirations didn't get met?
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Kati wrote:Swapan Dasgupta does have his network in the UK from his Oxford days.

Also, Chandan Mitra resigned from Rajya Sabha, wasn't it? Was it because of his aspirations didn't get met?
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chandan mitra jumped ship and headed for what he thought were greener pastures. Poor guy must be having a drastic rethink now

Swapan Dasgupta is part of the lootyens setup but has managed to keep his copybook unblotted as far as his BJP credentials go. It is also why he thought that he would be something of an intellectual bridge until AS set him right.

the scindia's are in a similar boat but the difference is that they are power players with aspirations

dasgupta is merely a gifted and presentable communicator bringing little else to the table but his ability to handle cutlery, which attribute BTW, is highly prized by wokes like sanjaya baru


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chetak wrote:
Kati wrote:Swapan Dasgupta does have his network in the UK from his Oxford days.

Also, Chandan Mitra resigned from Rajya Sabha, wasn't it? Was it because of his aspirations didn't get met?
@Rahul M

chandan mitra jumped ship and headed for what he thought were greener pastures. Poor guy must be having a drastic rethink now

Swapan Dasgupta is part of the lootyens setup but has managed to keep his copybook unblotted as far as his BJP credentials go. It is also why he thought that he would be something of an intellectual bridge until AS set him right.

the scindia's are in a similar boat but the difference is that they are power players with aspirations

dasgupta is a merely gifted and presentable communicator with little else to bring to the table but his ability to handle cutlery which attribute is, BTW, highly prized by wokes like sanjaya baru
Agreed.
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Phase - 5 vote cast (WB):

Average = 82.49%

Jalpaiguri district = ভ84.85%
Kalimpong district = 72.57%
Darjeeling district = 77.98%
North 24 Parganas district = 80.56%
Purba Bardhaman district = 86.04%
Nadia district = 84.35%
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Kati wrote:Satta Bazar on WB Phase-5:
TMC = 13
BJP = 25
INC+LF+ISF = 3
Total toss up = 4
Mumbai Satta Bazar has predicted that the BJP is winning in West Bengal BJP 191 to 199 seats & TMC?

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Kati, Thanks for assessing Kolkata seats.
Please write down top 10 reforms that come to you.
Group them as #Economic, #Law and Order, #Education, #Finance and #Misc

Minimum two in each.
Others can add similarly.

Thanks.
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ramana wrote:Kati, Thanks for assessing Kolkata seats.
Please write down top 10 reforms that come to you.
Group them as #Economic, #Law and Order, #Education, #Finance and #Misc

Minimum two in each.
Others can add similarly.

Thanks.
Ramana Saar,
you meant - two reforms you would like to see in each of the above five categories, right?

Just wanted to make sure. I'll be happy to give my views based on the ground realities and what would be the most impact-ful.
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Yes. That way it prioritizes automatically!
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After you do others can also write down their ideas.

Missing RayC sir badly.
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I must convey my kudos to Kati-ji and other Bengal stalwarts for providing continuous ground-level reports. Most of these details are missing in the (English) MSM, so it's very useful for those us keen to understand Bengal politics and how things are shaping up. By all accounts, this election would be a (positive equivalent of a) black-swan event for our country's future - Ramana sir's map seems that much closer to realization. I have always maintained that without development in the east and NE (with WB as the anchor), India would struggle to grow beyond a point. This election promises to take us closer to that goal. Hoping for the best.
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The level of poverty is massive in WB. Of course, it is not surprising as the Communist-ruled places will be like that only. Let us not make any mistake; TMC is the same communist thug gang with another name and more criminal gangs.

BJP would be the first non-communist rulers of WB after 45 years. One major issue will be land for any industrial development. WB has a very high-density population. So it makes land acquisition a challenging task. Maybe PSUs of the State have some lands which can be freed to make use of. May be some GoWB lands are there.

The state needs rapid industrialisation, and that is very difficult to achieve.
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Rishi Bagree @rishibagree 12h
A TMC leader who happens to be my school friend called up and said that TMC won't even cross 100.

And if saffron wave intensifies TMC can get restricted at 70s.

He expects BJP to get 180-200.
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The above aligns with Kati's recent satta bazar posts
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Rishi Bagree @rishibagree Apr 17
Dejected, Dispirited & Depressed TMC leader Madan Mitra conceded elections.
Says Khela Shesh (game over)
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At Kamarhati constituency Madan Mitra seemed confident, but toward the end of the day he fainted - apparently from dehydration.
Some are saying that he staged drama due to lukewarm response from his own thugs. This morning, ever colorful Madan Mitra, gave an
interview without mask, and he said "Positive Covid is no problem, but positive BJP is a problem". His interview was a bit bizarre, as he often
broke into singing Tagore songs..... But his opponent BJP's Raju Bandyopadhyay is pulling all stops, and hence it will be a photo finish.

In the meantime, CBI and ED are putting Mumtaaz Banoo's good for nothing "nephew" under pressure.
Since the last December CBI and ED have been conducting relentless investigation against the mafia raj in the western part of the state - rich in coal. It is a heaven for the mafias as they mine good quality coal and smuggle it to Bangladesh along with cattle. The entire operation involves ECL (a subsidiary of Coal India) officials, security personnel, state police, bureaucrats, and TMC insiders, especially nephew's close confidant Binoy Misra.
Binoy Misra has vanished, and both CBI and ED are looking for him for the last four months. However his brother Vikas Misra has been caught, and undergoing further interrogation. This has been a thorn on TMC's side, especially Mumtaaz Banoo's side. This money, to some extent, is being used in running other illegal influencing operations. As of today, CBI has asked for further info from the nephew's household.

There is a big mystery about Nephew Abhishek Banerjee's wife Rujira Narula (now Rujira Banerjee).
Rujira was born in Thailand, and hence she held Thai passport being a citizen there. Then she obtained a PIO card, and came to do her MBA in Delhi where she met the nephew pursuing the same, and they fell in love, and got married in 2012. Her current citizenship is a mystery.
In her Thai passport her father's name is "Narula", but in her PIO card, her father's name is Ahuja. In some bank documents her citizenship is stated as "Indian", and in some others it is "Thai". Our central govt is tight-lipped about it, and the only person following this matter is AS, and may use it to fullest extent.

The illegal coal and cattle money was managed by Binoy Misra till the investigation started, and many other big fish now have been caught. The security head of ECL who was thoroughly bribed and was part of the dark business died from heart attack once CBI interrogated him. Bankura police OC has been arrested, and he is divulging the entire smuggling operation. The illegal money, at the tune of 800 crores per year, was getting deposited in Rujira's secret bank accounts in London and Bangkok. Another pair of accomplice in this entire smuggling business is Rijira's sister Maneka Gambhir and her husband who also are now under CBI+ED scanner.

In an election rally in Midnapore city Shubhendu Adhikary divulged more info. He gave the account number of Rujira's Bank in Thailand (Kosikorn Bank) where money was getting deposited. ...... Anyway, pressure is building against the nephew and his wife. Some rumors are saying that it's a matter of time that Maneka is going to flip and will divulge more info against the nephew.

So far, CBI+ED investigations are going slow but steadily. Apparently they are gather all the info in their sweet time, and there is no particular rush to wrap up the investigation. So the nephew+Rijira+Maneka are on pins and needles.
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I think BJP should cancel all rallies. Not good optics
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vijayk wrote:I think BJP should cancel all rallies. Not good optics
this is not the time to be squeamish, saar

mumtaz bano's and the communista's rallies are on full swing.

This is the time to press on regardless and consolidate.

A win here will help secure the "chicken neck" and change the narrative in the NE of India for decades to come. The hans are seriously sniffing around looking for entry opportunities and that includes the rigging of elections

bengal and assam elections are particularly crucial for India and the BJP must push ahead to win both

there have been no spikes in the election states including in the khumb mela.

The spikes, so far, have all been in some of the non election states.
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It is absolutely vital that BJP wins WB as has already been said. The entire NE is at stake. Even if the BJP stops its campaign, the other side will not and the virus cannot therefore be contained. In any case, it is strange that so far not that much of a surge noted there.

Lots of Liberandu media on twitter and elsewhere commenting on huge numbers dead in BJP states but not being reported, even if true, same must be happening in non-BJP states. It is evident that the wave is massive this time, but securing WB is, sadly even more important. Many more will die and the future will be even darker for those living there if TMC comes back to power.
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vijayk wrote:I think BJP should cancel all rallies. Not good optics
I think that's the fundamental problem many RWingers have. Image issue. "Log kya kahenge" syndrome.

Congoons and their allies don't think for a second even if hundreds are killed. They make it up during elections knowing fully well that Indians have very short memory and will forget/forgive anything.
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vijayk wrote:I think BJP should cancel all rallies. Not good optics
BJP is caught between a rock and a hard place. If they let off the pressure in WB they could end up falling short and that will cause ramifications far beyond just a lost assembly election, including an even bigger physical threat to their cadre and supporters on the ground.

On the other hand, the longer they keep campaigning and doing rallies the more the anger and resentment is going to build up in the rest of India which is being hit hard by the covid disaster. There is a deluge of propaganda against the BJP in media and SM along with some heartfelt disappointment that the PM and HM haven't stopped rallies in favor of 100% focus on tackling covid.

I am guessing that BJP seems to have decided to err on the side of the WB election probably because they believe they can regain lost support elsewhere in due course.
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shravanp wrote: I think that's the fundamental problem many RWingers have. Image issue. "Log kya kahenge" syndrome.

Congoons and their allies don't think for a second even if hundreds are killed. They make it up during elections knowing fully well that Indians have very short memory and will forget/forgive anything.
Well perhaps that is what makes RWingers different from congoons. And it is not log kya kahenge but concern about the unfolding disaster and empathy for the victims and their loved ones. Congoons do not feel that but that is why they are congoons. If you want RWingers to "not think twice even if hundreds are killed" they will be no different from congoons.
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nachiket wrote:
shravanp wrote: I think that's the fundamental problem many RWingers have. Image issue. "Log kya kahenge" syndrome.

Congoons and their allies don't think for a second even if hundreds are killed. They make it up during elections knowing fully well that Indians have very short memory and will forget/forgive anything.
Well perhaps that is what makes RWingers different from congoons. And it is not log kya kahenge but concern about the unfolding disaster and empathy for the victims and their loved ones. Congoons do not feel that but that is why they are congoons. If you want RWingers to "not think twice even if hundreds are killed" they will be no different from congoons.
It is a media construct and a concerted political conspiracy to prevent Modi from campaigning. They all want to resurrect mumtaz bano because she is the only one uncultured CM who intemperately abuses Modi on a 24x7x365 days basis

Just ignore the objections and go ahead.

If required, Modi should fly in and out the very same day for the rally also mark his presence in dilli and be shown on DD working hard in his office.

He is using the All India Radio services quite well for his man ki baat, so why not use DD occasionally as well as it is govt owned

this is no time to compromise national security.
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vijayk wrote:I think BJP should cancel all rallies. Not good optics
No one in WB wants that, except diehard commies/tommies and you know why they want bjp to stop campaigning.
COVID is a minor virus compared to what we have in the state.
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Rahul M wrote:
vijayk wrote:I think BJP should cancel all rallies. Not good optics
No one in WB wants that, except diehard commies/tommies and you know why they want bjp to stop campaigning.
COVID is a minor virus compared to what we have in the state.
Brace for a trans-national campaign ...
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ramana wrote:Kati, Thanks for assessing Kolkata seats.
Please write down top 10 reforms that come to you.
Group them as #Economic, #Law and Order, #Education, #Finance and #Misc

Minimum two in each.
Others can add similarly.

Thanks.
saar my 2 cents............

L&W/EDUCATION.
1. Put all Madrasas (particularly the once near BeeDee border areas) under stringent govt monitoring.
2. Mandatorily make all govt aided or funded Madrasas to follow modern curriculum.
3. Expedite complete sealing of border with BeeDee land no matter how much expensive or difficult it is.

ECONOMIC
1. Dhanbad/Aasansol/ Haldia industrial corridor.

MISC
1. Remove all log jams in Kolkata metro, give full support of state govt, execute the project in war footing.
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Rahul M wrote:
vijayk wrote:I think BJP should cancel all rallies. Not good optics
No one in WB wants that, except diehard commies/tommies and you know why they want bjp to stop campaigning.
COVID is a minor virus compared to what we have in the state.
BJP President JP Nadda decides that in view of Covid crisis, all public meetings of BJP leaders in Bengal, including those of the Prime Minister Narendra Modi, will not have more than 500 people. BJP has also sent 6 Crore masks and sanitisers to West Bengal
via@Satyanewshi

this is not the solution that the wokes had bargained for.

Others BJP supporters will gather a short distance away
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vengeful politics in bengal

wonder how much was removed before the fire for smuggling to beediland and pak
Barasat, West Bengal , Corona kits, vaccines & drugs worth Rs 30 crores destroyed by fire in government godown yesterday .
via@Satyanewshi
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BJP President JP Nadda decides that in view of Covid crisis, all public meetings of BJP leaders in Bengal, including those of the Prime Minister Narendra Modi, will not have more than 500 people. BJP has also sent 6 Crore masks and sanitisers to West Bengal


I think that's wise move. We need controlled rallies. Keep the momentum going, good for optics as well as safety of BJP supporters. We do not want them get sick from covid and fail to come to vote on polling day.
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Former PM Manmohan Singh tests positive for COVID19, admitted to AIIMS Trauma Centre in Delhi: AIIMS Official
via@ANI, April 19, 2021
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