Chimerica

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kit
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Chimerica

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Resuscitating a topic that is increasingly becoming relevant., my original post was in 2019 but then Trump put a spanner into this development

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https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au ... and-china/

As we look at America as antagonistic of China , we increasingly loose focus of their shared interests ...

A new bipolar divide is beginning to entrench itself around the Asia-Pacific. Established lines of connection in areas ranging from trade and technology to student and research exchanges are being tested.

We know from neuroscientists and evolutionary biologists the split-second speed with which the human brain differentiates between “us” and “them”, and the evolutionary advantages the quick identification of the “other” may have provided individuals. In the context of contemporary societies, however, “othering” is a powerful and dangerous social tool.

A sophisticated form of othering is taking place at the refined levels of international relations scholarship, based not on the cruder foundation of race or religion but on differences in values.

Values matter in foreign policy, of course. They inform our way of looking at the world and the way we act in it. But values, like interests, are messy and complex. They are shaped by philosophy, religion, history and biology. And they change over time.
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There is a certain symmetry in the behavior of China in the Pacific and USA in the Indian Ocean -- US does in the Indian Ocean what China does in the Pacific Ocean, i.e., Violate the naval EZs of countries with impunity and claim it is their right. Neither have ratified the UNCLOS, and both have a lot to lose if they break off relations now. With Xiden in charge, and China having helped him get elected, it looks like Kissinger's G-2 is now a reality. This does not even seem to be a secret, given the number of voices in the US talking about coopetition with China and working with China

After China and US meet in Alaska, we see F16 sales to Pakistan, FONOPS all around India. China and USA may be indulging in economic cold-war but a China-US military alliance is intact and evolving. The recent US Navy warmongering in the Indian ocean is just the first of many more G-2 actions we are likely to see in the coming days.

Economic competition between the two may be the motivation for Taiwan's TSMC building a giant facility in Arizona USA may be to protect Intellectual property that China would like to get its hands on. If China invades Taiwan, chances are US will not fight that war and let China win, but China will not get their hands on TSMC's tech regardless -- easier to destroy than create. USA certainly does not seem to care if it has allies against China, so they must not need any.

The Hunter-Biden story was snuffed out by the deep state and the tech monopolies in the USA, and the crux of that story is that Biden and his family were starting a firm with the head of China's deep state. Now that Xiden got elected with Chinese help, this is being openly admitted. This reinforces the thought that US and China are in a military alliance and economic competition at the same time.

Pakistan was India's problem when the US sold F-16s and encouraged terrorism in J&K in the past and even right now, so there is history of the US using malevolent regimes to push the sharp end of the sword while making long speeches about shared values with democracies. In this game, allowing China to become more powerful and challenge the US works better for India than the other way around -- US's global dominance has not exactly helped India in many decades, and neither has China's increase in power. But India may find it has more levers to control China's belligerence than the US's belligerence, given the close proximity and Indian military's capability to take them on since 2014.
It is also not in india's interest to see a weak china that is subserevient to US/EU white christian/imperial interests (that blocks islamism locally while encouraging it in non-white regions), the color revolutions in Myanmar and near India's borders will succeed once that happens.
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