Terroristan - April 15, 2021

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chetak wrote: the proposed sanctions also mean that the break is final and the pakis will be treated as just another jehadi trouble maker.
We can't say right now if the break is final. Smug Paki 'analysts' were claiming yesterday that the bill in the Senate was just a pressure/blackmail tactic and the worst case scenario for Pakis would only be something like the Pressler amendments where a presidential waiver would be built in and the Pakis would have a free run so long as they 'cooperated' with the US from time to time. In the past they "cooperated" by serving up an endless supply of fake Al Queda number threes, and serving up any independent minded or Pak-unfriendly Taliban elements to the Americans to kill in drone strikes, apart from soaking up a lot of aid and coalition support funds to protect American logistics, while simultaneously having non-state actors attack and loot the convoys.

The Pakis have a long history of playing the US for suckers and we know how the Americans have had a longstanding blind spot when it comes to Paki double-crossing.
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chetak wrote: the proposed sanctions also mean that the break is final and the pakis will be treated as just another jehadi trouble maker.
We can't say right now if the break is final. Smug Paki 'analysts' were claiming yesterday that the bill in the Senate was just a pressure/blackmail tactic and the worst case scenario for Pakis would only be something like the Pressler amendments where a presidential waiver would be built in and the Pakis would have a free run so long as they 'cooperated' with the US from time to time.

The Pakis have a long history of playing the US for suckers and we know how the Americans have had a longstanding blind spot when it comes to Paki double-crossing.
it looks like the amerikis are withdrawing into a geopolitical shell to concentrate on the cheeni.

the pakis have no role in this new ameriki drama but the pakis will be used by the cheeni against India

India has, because of the QUAD and the logistics but India will keep her powder dry to take on the cheeni herself, as is happening in ladakh.

the cheeni have entered into arunachal and destroyed a bridge after staying for some length of time.

The cheeni are provoking us at various points on the border to probe defences and elicit a response.

this is the best time for us to force, (or if need be, to freeze) the cheeni disinvestments of their Indian assets and holdings
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chetak wrote: the requirement of the pakis has become redundant
InshaAllah _/\_
chetak wrote: the proposed sanctions also mean that the break is final and the pakis will be treated as just another jehadi trouble maker.
I wonder what will its economic collapse look like? Lebanon like perhaps, but with global commodity and supply chain headwinds probably 2x worse. Extreme misery.
chetak wrote: the taliban are freeloaders just as the pakis are and most of the payments will be in the currency of opium and other drugs
This is the part that makes me happiest, afeemchi Afghan warlords resuming raids into pakjab, al la Abdali, Ghori, Mughals and the rest.

2021-2030 window, especially if Namo gets re-elected in 2024, looks very promising for, Pork-tere-tukde-honge project.
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Lohit wrote:...

I wonder what will its economic collapse look like? Lebanon like perhaps, but with global commodity and supply chain headwinds probably 2x worse. Extreme misery....
We being right next door should take extreme precaution not to be hurt by the implosion... and be extremely wary of the West trying to tug at our heart-strings to loosen our purse strings & our borders to help a least the wimmen & children of our erstwhile 'brothers'
Lohit wrote: 2021-2030 window, especially if Namo gets re-elected in 2024, looks very promising for, Pork-tere-tukde-honge project.
Insha Ganesha _/\_
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Pakistan Army captain martyred, TTP commander killed in Tank operation
RAWALPINDI: A Pakistan Army captain embraced martyrdom during an intelligence-based operation (IBO) in Tank area of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said on Thursday.

According to the military’s media wing, the security forces, after receiving information about the presence of Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) terrorists in the area, conducted the operation.
"During the intense exchange of fire, Captain Sikandar, 27, from Pakpatan embraced shahadat," said the ISPR.

ISPR further said that TTP terrorist commander Khawaza din alias Sher Khan got killed in the operation, adding that weapons and ammunition were recovered from the hideout as well.
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Manish_P wrote:
We being right next door should take extreme precaution not to be hurt by the implosion...
A country with no food reserves, no forex reserves, no fuel reserves, no national assets that could be mortgaged if shit hits the fan, no credit standing for any more monetary relief, no soft power to elicit any sort of international humanitarian support. AND -

Rampant unemployment - vs 2010 unemployment has gone up from 0.65% to 5%

Rampant poverty - poverty rate has gone up from 24% in 2015 to 40% in 2021

Rampant crime - 100-200% increase in armed robberies, murders and crime against women

Rampant drug abuse - Close to 27-30 Mn or almost 15% of Pak's population takes hard drugs like heroin, crystal meth etc; if we include cannabis, marijuana, smack etc, perhaps it we might see that 1 in every 3 NaPaki is a nashedi

Rampant insurgency - Not even a day goes by when 1 NaPaki trooper or a dozen are not dispatched by insurgents to 72

Add to this mix the millions of weapons either locally made in KPK and the gifts left by the great Khan. As election season approaches Niazi and other politicians will go after each other even harder, exposing regional, ethnic, linguistic and sectarian schisms even more.

I think its important that there are clearly defined red lines - say Taliban ka jhanda waving over GHQ or over Karachi Nuclear plant - which automatically triggers a swift and massive internationally co-ordinated armed response by Khan, supported in great measure by us, to secure every last on of NaPaki nooks. This must be the starting and end point of any strategic calculus for Bharat.
Manish_P wrote:
and be extremely wary of the West trying to tug at our heart-strings to loosen our purse strings & our borders to help a least the wimmen & children of our erstwhile 'brothers'
& ofcourse more wary of our own aman ki asha ramdis. :evil:
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chetak wrote: the proposed sanctions also mean that the break is final and the pakis will be treated as just another jehadi trouble maker.
We can't say right now if the break is final. Smug Paki 'analysts' were claiming yesterday that the bill in the Senate was just a pressure/blackmail tactic and the worst case scenario for Pakis would only be something like the Pressler amendments where a presidential waiver would be built in and the Pakis would have a free run so long as they 'cooperated' with the US from time to time. In the past they "cooperated" by serving up an endless supply of fake Al Queda number threes, and serving up any independent minded or Pak-unfriendly Taliban elements to the Americans to kill in drone strikes, apart from soaking up a lot of aid and coalition support funds to protect American logistics, while simultaneously having non-state actors attack and loot the convoys.

The Pakis have a long history of playing the US for suckers and we know how the Americans have had a longstanding blind spot when it comes to Paki double-crossing.
The bill in the senate is just posturing.

Bunch of 2024 presidential candidates are covering their musharraf by tabling bills like this "See, I am tough on Pakistan and Afghanistan, Biden does not understand anything at all, he is a failure"

Absolutely nothing related to foreign policy moves forward in the Senate/House, unless it is the administration's policy as well.
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Warms the cockles of my heart to see NaPakis repeating Bangladesh all over again in Baluchistan: Balochistan govt orders employees to set their ringback tones to 'Pakistan Zindabad'

Harami link: https://www.dawn.com/news/1649322/baloc ... n-zindabad

While we swept into Bangladesh and fixed it once and for all - we unintentionally created another mini Pak on our Eastern border, it is only under Sheikh Haseena that things have gotten slightly, tenuously better.

So I think its actually providential, geo-politically that we actually can't "cut-off" Baluchistan and we keep the insurgency going ad infinitum. Keep NaPakis at each other's throats while we keep growing until the power differential between Pak and India resembles the one between Mexico and the US.
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Lohit wrote:...
I think its important that there are clearly defined red lines - say Taliban ka jhanda waving over GHQ or over Karachi Nuclear plant - which automatically triggers a swift and massive internationally co-ordinated armed response by Khan, supported in great measure by us, to secure every last on of NaPaki nooks. This must be the starting and end point of any strategic calculus for Bharat.
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Assuming that the Pakis are not nuke-nude , it is still not the guided nooks that are the worry (for me anyway)... it's the swarms of the unguided Abdools and their broods which will start making a dash and gathering on our borders which are the concern.

Imagine a scenario worse than the BD's refugees influx of 71 (several of those cancerous cells are still within us despite all these decades)... the Rohingya menace will look like a mere pre-primary school incursion in comparison.

We definitely need to break Pakistan into 4-5 components before that abominable entity implodes. Let the Pakjabis try to get into Sindhudesh, the Sindhis try and get into independent Baluchistan and so on and so forth.
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Anujan wrote:
Bart S wrote:
We can't say right now if the break is final. Smug Paki 'analysts' were claiming yesterday that the bill in the Senate was just a pressure/blackmail tactic and the worst case scenario for Pakis would only be something like the Pressler amendments where a presidential waiver would be built in and the Pakis would have a free run so long as they 'cooperated' with the US from time to time. In the past they "cooperated" by serving up an endless supply of fake Al Queda number threes, and serving up any independent minded or Pak-unfriendly Taliban elements to the Americans to kill in drone strikes, apart from soaking up a lot of aid and coalition support funds to protect American logistics, while simultaneously having non-state actors attack and loot the convoys.

The Pakis have a long history of playing the US for suckers and we know how the Americans have had a longstanding blind spot when it comes to Paki double-crossing.
The bill in the senate is just posturing.

Bunch of 2024 presidential candidates are covering their musharraf by tabling bills like this "See, I am tough on Pakistan and Afghanistan, Biden does not understand anything at all, he is a failure"

Absolutely nothing related to foreign policy moves forward in the Senate/House, unless it is the administration's policy as well.
The amerikis have been shamed badly on the world stage both by the taliban and the pakis.

This is not how a soooper power gets evicted after 20 years of stay, treated like a recalcitrant and overstaying tenant who has been kicked out of the rented house and has been forced to leave behind all his chattel.

as a country, they will not forget and so ameriki vengeance will follow as surely as night follows the day

while we may say anything to the contrary, the ummah and the ummah press see this as a failure of the great satan and a great victory of the ummah and the amerikis know this very well.

they will have their vengeance, one way or the other, and what better way than crippling sanctions so that the world can see the pakis and the talibs twisting in the wind.

this proposal for sanctions will surely attract bipartisan support.

the ameriki military is incensed with the deaths and injuries caused by the last suicide bomber and will push for hurting the pakis and the taliban in a way that is visible for all to see.
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Lohit wrote:.. we keep the insurgency going ad infinitum. Keep NaPakis at each other's throats while we keep growing...
+1 Exactly this
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THREE FC shot dead by Afghan Taliban at spin Boldak border crossing: https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1 ... 5167096839

Imagine if after an argument at Wagah border, we casually shot dead 3 Pork guards, media outlets like ramdiTV would predict nuclear annihilation. Up there, is just another day in AfPak where the Pashtun GUBOs Pakjabi mard-e-momins at will.

TTP dispatches SIX NaPaki troops in DattaKhel: https://twitter.com/occupiedbypak/statu ... 0520568837
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Sikh medicine practitioner shot dead in Peshawar clinic; search on for gunmen
A Sikh ‘hakeem’ (Unani medicine practitioner) was shot dead by unidentified gunmen on Thursday in Pakistan's northwestern city of Peshawar, police said.
About 15,000 Sikhs live in Peshawar, mostly in the Jogan Shah neighborhood of the provincial capital. Most of the Sikh community members in Peshawar are involved in business, while some also run pharmacies.
In 2018, Charanjit Singh, a prominent Sikh community member, was killed by unknown men in Peshawar. Similarly, news channel anchor Ravinder Singh was killed in 2020 in the city. In 2016, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf National Assembly member Soren Singh was killed in Peshawar.
https://www.firstpost.com/world/sikh-me ... 14561.html
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chetak wrote:The amerikis have been shamed badly on the world stage both by the taliban and the pakis.

This is not how a soooper power gets evicted after 20 years of stay, treated like a recalcitrant and overstaying tenant who has been kicked out of the rented house and has been forced to leave behind all his chattel.

as a country, they will not forget and so ameriki vengeance will follow as surely as night follows the day

while we may say anything to the contrary, the ummah and the ummah press see this as a failure of the great satan and a great victory of the ummah and the amerikis know this very well.

they will have their vengeance, one way or the other, and what better way than crippling sanctions so that the world can see the pakis and the talibs twisting in the wind.

this proposal for sanctions will surely attract bipartisan support.

the ameriki military is incensed with the deaths and injuries caused by the last suicide bomber and will push for hurting the pakis and the taliban in a way that is visible for all to see.
That is a misreading of massa politics.

If you look at presidential candidate debate, usually the questions are along the lines of

"What will you do differently in Afghanistan"

(candidate 1, who has no idea what Afghanistan is) "I will ensure security in Afghanistan, to ensure prosperity in africa and to project American power into South america where there is a lot of drug problems. I will operate on principles of fairness, human rights and american power with our allies" (thinking in his mind "Phew!! Got out of that question. I wonder what Afghanistan is? Is it that country that keeps sending pirates?")

(candidate 2, who also has no idea what Afghanistan is) "I am not like candidate 1, who spends so much time thinking about Afghanistan!!! I think about american people, their aspirations, wants and needs!!! Under candidate 1, amrerica will spend a lot of money on Afghanistan, which should be spent right here to give big tax relief to middle class!!!" (thinking in his mind "Phew!! Got out of that one, and made Candidate 1 look bad")

Crowd erupts in cheer for Candidate 2, elects him to presidency.

If you think I am making it up for comedic effect, this fella was leading in the polls for some time:

This is how typically foreign affairs are conducted and how politics is done. If you leave it to the politicians, they will weigh cost benefit with a view towards elections: "Should I sanction Pakistan? That means that I admit defeat in Afghanistan and it becomes harder to win next election"

Now, will there be sanctions against Pakistan? Maybe. The estabilishment (think CIA, Military, State department, Commerce department etc etc) might think "time to jettison Pakistan, they are more headache than benefit". And then pass laws and sanctions. But then Pakis and Paki pasand people are lobbying the state department and CIA "Pakistan is single biggest hedge against China!! We will agree to cooperate and Intel share if you give us 20 more F16s", Fellow from Lockheed martin then goes in with offer of job to senator's son-in-law and then there is a quiet notification to congress, sales of F16.
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Let me make a prediction with medium confidence.

Pakis are doomed not because Massa will sanction them, Pakis are doomed because Massa will ignore them. Just like how Massa ignored afghanistan and spent a lot of energy on Iraq. Even after OBL had killed 3000 in twin towers, the feeling was "Okay, we invaded afghanistan, who wants more of that shithole country, lets invade Iraq and get all the oil".

Massa operates like that. Not by vengence, but by ignoring things.

Now Pakis are a basket case, neck deep in debt with the Chinese, who have built umpteen power plants at introductory interest rate of 0.2% (+12% surcharge). Pakis owe them money, cant pick up fights with them because Bandaar wont fly unless the next installment is made. Or Pakis need to compensate them in kind by giving out 10,000 licenses for Red lips massage parlors.

Pakis will go running to massa for money. Massa will ignore Pakis. This is by itself is a great outcome for India.

Pakis were headed in this direction in early 2000s after Bandicoot coup and Nuke tests. Massa ignored them. But then 9/11 happened and Pakis were back in the game, with 50B$ of debt rescheduling, F16 and numerous other munitions (I recall tons of TOWs and Self Propelled Artillery, APCs and even a few ships). What should have happened in 2000 is happening in 2021.

Are Pakis going to pull another rabbit out of the hat in next 5 years time, either by getting Massa entangled in Iran or Afghanistan (again) or China? Time will tell.
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Came across this Haram FT article.

Nothing is new than what’s been already discussed here. Only surprise it’s been written in FT !!!

One Coffee spilling spoiler alert :rotfl: is how TFTA security officials are lamenting for “West’s” understanding of their mistakes because “Most of them have been trained in the US, they listen to western music not Chinese music”

Bakis can’t even make a promise that they can stop bunnies from putting OBL’s face on Afghan money but want the entire world to believe that they are the official p!mp for bunnies.
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Lohit wrote:
I think its important that there are clearly defined red lines - say Taliban ka jhanda waving over GHQ or over Karachi Nuclear plant - which automatically triggers a swift and massive internationally co-ordinated armed response by Khan, supported in great measure by us, to secure every last on of NaPaki nooks. This must be the starting and end point of any strategic calculus for Bharat.
Bharat and having strategic calculus? You must be joking.

Wanna bet the end game of paki Nukes is? It is in its willful handover by the Pakjabis either to Taliban OR AQ or ISIS or any other entity. They know they are doomed and why would they mind if it a mushroom cloud and pain for India. On the contrary they would very much want it.

The only saving grace for India is that the rest of the world would be unwilling to take that risk and would be pro-active to prevent it from happening whether by military means or by giving aid (succumbing to paki blackmail).

India on its own neither has the will or the capacity to keep track of each Paki nuke and more important prevent if from falling in the hands of the terrorist's.
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Lahori kid recites a poem for Im-the-Dim : :mrgreen:

Request any Punjabi on this forum to kindly translate for the benefit of the rest of us..

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Not Punjabi myself. The poem is just the usual criticism of politicians.

Niazi is chief of thieves, he is looting everyone,
May god strike him down, this man is a butcher and so on.
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I think it is high time for coup de etat in Bakistan. Conditions are right. This will allow them to beg from west inorder to fight TTP to save the world Avam would welcome it.
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Another one bites the dust -

Pakistan Army sepoy (did anyone else notice NaPakis call their own soldiers, "sepoys" :lol: ) martyred in exchange of fire with terrorists in North Waziristan: ISPR

Harami link: https://www.dawn.com/news/1650082/pakis ... istan-ispr

A Pakistan Army soldier was martyred in an exchange of fire (so getting sniped off is "exchange of fire" :rotfl: ) with alleged terrorists in the North Waziristan tribal district, the military's media wing said on Monday.

The incident comes two days after four Frontier Corps soldiers and a sub-inspector of Levies Force were martyred when terrorists targeted their vehicle in the Spinwam area of North Waziristan.

That incident took place in the area a day after Shura Mujahideen of North Waziristan headed by Taliban ‘commander’ Hafiz Gul Bahadur announced a ceasefire for 20 days.
:mrgreen:


On Thursday, a Pakistan Army captain was martyred during an intelligence-based operation (IBO) against TTP militants in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's Tank district.

Feels nice to sit and have coffee while watching Pakjabis getting slaughtered in the self created condom for India called NaPakistan.
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:((
Appeasing butchers
THE prime minister in a TV interview has said that the government is trying to negotiate a peace deal with the TTP wherein they will lay down arms and become “normal citizens”. He has also called recent TTP attacks on Pakistani soldiers “just a spate of attacks”.

Clearly, the life of Pakistani citizens is not worth much to the PM who has continued to advocate for negotiations with terrorist groups — Pakistani or Afghan Taliban. Some Pakistani militant groups have offered ceasefire, but their crimes must never be forgiven by the state.

Where are the anti-terrorism laws? What are the anti-terror courts doing? What happened to the victory of the military in former Fata where terrorists were said to be defeated and millions were displaced for this purpose (they became internally displaced persons).

Terrorism wreaked havoc in Pakistan for nearly a decade, killing over 80,000 Pakistani civilians, policemen, soldiers, and children. What gives the PM the right to forgive butchers so easily?
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Forgiving the TTP sets the wrong precedent. It sends out the message that those who commit crimes against the state and its citizens can be forgiven. Then what’s stopping others from taking up arms against the state and its citizens? Will the same gratuitous amnesty also be extended to other groups opposing the state? Will at least peaceful movements be allowed to function or will elected MNAs such as Ali Wazir who lost 17 family members to TTP attacks continue to be imprisoned for their speeches while murderers and butchers are allowed to roam free?
Pakistan’s supposed strategic considerations for supporting the Taliban in Afghanistan and the constant push by the current government for recognition and working with the Afghan Taliban is concerning, especially considering the known links they have with the TTP. Several TTP prisoners in Afghanistan have been freed in the past month, and this has coincided with strengthening of their rank and file in Waziristan and other newly merged districts of KP. This is demonstrated by the rise in attacks on Pakistan’s soldiers and policemen in the region, as well as the resumption of extortion by Taliban groups in South Waziristan where they are reportedly charging a percentage of contract money from contractors, traders, transporters, etc.
Militants deserve to be arrested, tried in court, and punished for committing crimes against the state and its citizens. The prime minister must respect the law of the land and the wounds of its citizens when solving the terrorism problem. Rule of law must be a fundamental part of any political solution to end militancy, rather than seeing only two extremes of military operations or surrender as viable options.

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Lohit wrote: Another one bites the dust -

Pakistan Army sepoy (did anyone else notice NaPakis call their own soldiers, "sepoys" :lol: ) martyred in exchange of fire with terrorists in North Waziristan: ISPR

Harami link: https://www.dawn.com/news/1650082/pakis ... istan-ispr

A Pakistan Army soldier was martyred in an exchange of fire (so getting sniped off is "exchange of fire" :rotfl: ) with alleged terrorists in the North Waziristan tribal district, the military's media wing said on Monday.

The incident comes two days after four Frontier Corps soldiers and a sub-inspector of Levies Force were martyred when terrorists targeted their vehicle in the Spinwam area of North Waziristan.

That incident took place in the area a day after Shura Mujahideen of North Waziristan headed by Taliban ‘commander’ Hafiz Gul Bahadur announced a ceasefire for 20 days.
:mrgreen:


On Thursday, a Pakistan Army captain was martyred during an intelligence-based operation (IBO) against TTP militants in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's Tank district.

Feels nice to sit and have coffee while watching Pakjabis getting slaughtered in the self created condom for India called NaPakistan.

the word is sipahi, sepoy is the anglicized woke version not used by the locals
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chetak wrote:
Lohit wrote:...
Pakistan Army sepoy (did anyone else notice NaPakis call their own soldiers, "sepoys" :lol: ) martyred in exchange of fire with terrorists in North Waziristan: ISPR
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the word is sipahi, sepoy is the anglicized woke version not used by the locals
'Sipahi' is a Turkish origin word.. so rather fitting given the current ummah bhaichara..
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Another gem.

'Don't think India can compete with Pakistan': Razzaq
Former all-rounder Abdul Razzaq, who is known for his explosive comments, has dropped another bomb, this time regarding cricketing ties between India and Pakistan, saying that the reason the Indian cricket team is not having bilateral ties with Pakistan is because they know they are the inferior team.
Razzaq responded by saying that the kind of talent Pakistan has is unique, which the Indian cricket team doesn't, referring to the ability to consume and thrive in high-pressure scenarios.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/ ... 17552.html
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Manish_P wrote:
chetak wrote: the word is sipahi, sepoy is the anglicized woke version not used by the locals
'Sipahi' is a Turkish origin word.. so rather fitting given the current ummah bhaichara..
I believe the Sepoy rank is from BIA times. Even the IA has Sepoy as the official lowest rank for enlisted men in Infantry (and Sowar in cavalry/armoured regiments).
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anupmisra wrote:Another gem.

'Don't think India can compete with Pakistan': Razzaq
Former all-rounder Abdul Razzaq, who is known for his explosive comments, has dropped another bomb, this time regarding cricketing ties between India and Pakistan, saying that the reason the Indian cricket team is not having bilateral ties with Pakistan is because they know they are the inferior team.
Razzaq responded by saying that the kind of talent Pakistan has is unique, which the Indian cricket team doesn't, referring to the ability to consume and thrive in high-pressure scenarios.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/ ... 17552.html
Article has a pro Pak slant to it.
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nachiket wrote:
Manish_P wrote:
'Sipahi' is a Turkish origin word.. so rather fitting given the current ummah bhaichara..
I believe the Sepoy rank is from BIA times. Even the IA has Sepoy as the official lowest rank for enlisted men in Infantry (and Sowar in cavalry/armoured regiments).
Yes, the rank is from BIA times, but the word is much older and was in common usage, in Hindustan, from the Mughal period.
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^^
Looks like Persian word as per wiki and web search
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... nn_61ijQn9
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Manish_P wrote:
nachiket wrote: I believe the Sepoy rank is from BIA times. Even the IA has Sepoy as the official lowest rank for enlisted men in Infantry (and Sowar in cavalry/armoured regiments).
Yes, the rank is from BIA times, but the word is much older and was in common usage, in Hindustan, from the Mughal period.
I know it is older. I meant that is why the PA continues to use it. They just didn't change it after the PA was formed from the BIA.
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Am I missing something here? Why are TSPA personnel being awarded medals? Which war or battle have they won?

COAS .... investiture ceremony at GHQ....says their sacrifices won't go to waste
Gen Bajwa conferred awards on army personnel for their acts of bravery during operations and meritorious services rendered to the nation, the ISPR statement said.
47 officers were awarded Sitara-i-Imtiaz, while six officers, seven junior commissioned officers (JCOs) and 12 soldiers were awarded Tamgha-i-Basalat.
Haram link: https://www.dawn.com/news/1650259/coas- ... o-to-waste
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anupmisra wrote:Another gem.

'Don't think India can compete with Pakistan': Razzaq
Former all-rounder Abdul Razzaq, who is known for his explosive comments, has dropped another bomb, this time regarding cricketing ties between India and Pakistan, saying that the reason the Indian cricket team is not having bilateral ties with Pakistan is because they know they are the inferior team.
Razzaq responded by saying that the kind of talent Pakistan has is unique, which the Indian cricket team doesn't, referring to the ability to consume and thrive in high-pressure scenarios.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/ ... 17552.html
India cannot ignore such a challenge. We must definitely play TSP to prove Razzaq wrong.

Hai Allah, this man has brilliantly trapped India onlee, we have no choice.
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nachiket wrote:
Manish_P wrote:
Yes, the rank is from BIA times, but the word is much older and was in common usage, in Hindustan, from the Mughal period.
I know it is older. I meant that is why the PA continues to use it. They just didn't change it after the PA was formed from the BIA.
Sipah = infantry

Sipsh = infantryman
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anupmisra wrote:Another gem.

'Don't think India can compete with Pakistan': Razzaq
<snip>... explosive ... dropped another bomb,
... because they know they are the inferior team. - True! The Indian cricketers concede a walkover in explosives and bombs.
The Pakis are the best. Even super powers have been defeated by the Pakis.

Inshallah, the boys played well!


https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/ ... 17552.html
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rsingh wrote:I think it is high time for coup de etat in Bakistan. Conditions are right. This will allow them to beg from west inorder to fight TTP to save the world Avam would welcome it.
It is quite ironic that TSPA seeks Strategic Depth in Afghanistan and the TTP seeks Shariah Depth in Pakistan!
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I am confused about the mindset of Pakistani ex Muslims. Now there is a second war of words have started between indian exM and paki exM.

Indian exmuslims have stated their agenda very clear. " they will not condone any other religion other than Islam. Problem of hindus has to be sorted out by hindus. They think Islam is problem and not Muslims. All they want is human behaviour with ex Muslims. They don't hate Muslim but pity them". On the other hand paki exmulims wanted indian ex-M to talk about Hindu problem like cast, lynching, modi, cow urine etc.
The problem started when indian Ex-M did not go by their tune instead told we respect every person in Akand bharath. They will talk only about text, nothing other than text.

Now the new drama stared saying all indian Ex-M are hindus, they need to be verified and provide halal certification. Otherwise these are "sanatu**” (a slur coined for hindus). The issue happened when accidentally camera opened for one of the Ex-M (yasmin khan) and there was a male instead of female. Later she released a video of her to prove she is a female but it is not enough.

I don't understand why this halal certificate only for indian Ex-M? When one of the paki Christian posed as Muslim and fooled for a year till he had good number of viewers they never question him. They have no prob with ayaan hirsi. Converted to Christian.when apostate prophet join hands with Christian woods but they hate when indian ex Muslim turns hindus.

A parsi women who says she is women right activist keep scolding kalidasi ( indian ex m)who left Islam and became Hindu with such a bad words that even men will be ashamed. She Defends one more paki exM who issued fatwa stating she has to produce government ID card with her Islamic name. If she produce he will give 1000 USD. Parsi ExM some times says she is Ex-M some times she says she is a parsi.no one question her.

none of the so called paki Ex-M live in Pakistan nor they give solutions nor do anything except bashing everyone. I can understand true Ex-M hating hindus but the same case is with Christian and Paris too. Funny thing is these people have not made a single video on canadian indian genocide, Australian indian slavery where they are waiting for their citizenship. But want indian Ex-M to talk about and bash hindus. Indian Ex-M should not talk about problems in Quran, hadith or other texts. ( believe me it's a high quality discussion on Quran and Hadith by indian exm).

On the other hand one of Indian ExM (apostate imam) of the guy is working with sanjay fix it to translate fatwa e almgiri. One of the guy (sachwala) is working on word to word translation with synonymous of Quran. Azad ground another is running an ngo. Logicalbau ( logicalbabu.com) is creating safehouse for Exs. Kohram is giving interviewed press heighlighting issues with ExM Almost free and Kalidasi are hindus now talk about hinduism, And there started the problem.

All I get is they neither atheist nor true to their cause. They might say they are out of Islam or Pakistan. But their pakiath he not gone from them. They are the same shit.

Why India’s ex-Muslims struggle for recognition amid fear of retribution from the community
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Pakistan Army.. :rotfl:
Keeping up parampara (tradition) of surrender..
Surrendered Pakistani Army soldiers paraded by terrorist org Tahrik-e-Taliban TTP in Mirali, Waziristan

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https://twitter.com/arifaajakia/status/ ... 4784659466

{could be fake, but who cares}
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madhu wrote:I am confused about the mindset of Pakistani ex Muslims. Now there is a second war of words have started between indian exM and paki exM.

Indian exmuslims have stated their agenda very clear. " they will not condone any other religion other than Islam. Problem of hindus has to be sorted out by hindus. They think Islam is problem and not Muslims. All they want is human behaviour with ex Muslims. They don't hate Muslim but pity them". On the other hand paki exmulims wanted indian ex-M to talk about Hindu problem like cast, lynching, modi, cow urine etc.
The problem started when indian Ex-M did not go by their tune instead told we respect every person in Akand bharath. They will talk only about text, nothing other than text.

Now the new drama stared saying all indian Ex-M are hindus, they need to be verified and provide halal certification. Otherwise these are "sanatu**” (a slur coined for hindus). The issue happened when accidentally camera opened for one of the Ex-M (yasmin khan) and there was a male instead of female. Later she released a video of her to prove she is a female but it is not enough.

I don't understand why this halal certificate only for indian Ex-M? When one of the paki Christian posed as Muslim and fooled for a year till he had good number of viewers they never question him. They have no prob with ayaan hirsi. Converted to Christian.when apostate prophet join hands with Christian woods but they hate when indian ex Muslim turns hindus.

A parsi women who says she is women right activist keep scolding kalidasi ( indian ex m)who left Islam and became Hindu with such a bad words that even men will be ashamed. She Defends one more paki exM who issued fatwa stating she has to produce government ID card with her Islamic name. If she produce he will give 1000 USD. Parsi ExM some times says she is Ex-M some times she says she is a parsi.no one question her.

none of the so called paki Ex-M live in Pakistan nor they give solutions nor do anything except bashing everyone. I can understand true Ex-M hating hindus but the same case is with Christian and Paris too. Funny thing is these people have not made a single video on canadian indian genocide, Australian indian slavery where they are waiting for their citizenship. But want indian Ex-M to talk about and bash hindus. Indian Ex-M should not talk about problems in Quran, hadith or other texts. ( believe me it's a high quality discussion on Quran and Hadith by indian exm).

On the other hand one of Indian ExM (apostate imam) of the guy is working with sanjay fix it to translate fatwa e almgiri. One of the guy (sachwala) is working on word to word translation with synonymous of Quran. Azad ground another is running an ngo. Logicalbau ( logicalbabu.com) is creating safehouse for Exs. Kohram is giving interviewed press heighlighting issues with ExM Almost free and Kalidasi are hindus now talk about hinduism, And there started the problem.

All I get is they neither atheist nor true to their cause. They might say they are out of Islam or Pakistan. But their pakiath he not gone from them. They are the same shit.

Why India’s ex-Muslims struggle for recognition amid fear of retribution from the community
The so called ex-muslims fro Pakistan are all ISI guys working for ISI. They fool indian gullible people on youtube to make money this ex-christian, ex-muslil whatever dude makes $5000.00 per month on youtube criticizing India and Sanatan Dharma,, often pleading money claiming he has life threats. Many Indians are also using the same mantra pleading poverty and getting money., one dude wanted 2000 euros for a laptop and disappeared when he got about 1500. It is a big racket stay away from anyone who hides their face (and all who are from Pakistan). Never give them a dime even if they claim their children, etc are dying.
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