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Latest uvacha from I'm the Dimmy. This guy never ceases to amaze, shock, insult, and embarrass his nation, all at the same time.

Remember that "ABSOLUTELY NOT!" retort when asked about American bases? Well, now there is a qualifier. The new mantra is "ABSOLUTELY NOT, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED!".

Pakistan's trajectory will see it help poor nations instead of 'begging' itself: PM Imran :roll:
Prime Minister Imran Khan on Saturday said that the trajectory Pakistan is on would see it help poor nations of the world instead of "begging for financial assistance" itself.
“Unfortunately, we have been seeking aid from foreign countries and never thought of becoming self-sufficient [ourselves],"
he said. "No country can become a dignified nation when it keeps relying on aid."
And, now the qualifier.
In an indirect reference to his recent interview with Jonathan Swan on HBO wherein he remarked in outright negative when asked if Pakistan would allow US bases in Pakistan, Imran explained that he would not be in a position to make the “absolutely not” comment to the United States, had his properties and assets been out of Pakistan.
But...but...but...since half his ministers and most of his genrails have overseas properties and businesses, they are in a better position to offer such bases.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1635634/pakis ... f-pm-imran
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Vadivel wrote:Hu Xijin 胡锡进
@HuXijin_GT
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China state-affiliated media
The cowardly terrorists behind this attack dare not show up until now. But they will definitely be found out and must be exterminated. If Pakistan’s capability is not enough, with its consent, China’s missiles and special forces can be put into action


https://mobile.twitter.com/HuXijin_GT/s ... 26885?s=20
China should take strong action and sanction China for preventing UN sanctions on terrorists in Pakistan.

China should warn China that protecting terrorists will incur a heavy cost.
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Manish_P wrote:Everything murky is possible in Jihadistan.

Looking at the unusually sharp Chinese reaction, one can't help but wonder if the ever-suspicious Chinese think this to be a ISI plotted Op to get them to give more money to the Pak faujis for 'protection', while at the same time sending signals to the Americans of how they can use the services of Pak fauj, via it's non-uniformed proxies, to bring down the chinese (like how they did with the Soviets decades ago).

Just the usual Paki raison d'etre of running with the hares and hunting with the hounds...
Pakis set off a bomb blast to kill French engineers because France did not give kickbacks in the Agosta submarine contracts.

French intelligence broke the knees (not exaggerating, actually broke knees) of the Vice Admiral and ISI jernails involved in the attack.

We will know soon if China is in the business of breaking knees or cutting off mijjiles

For posterity

https://web.archive.org/web/20160306194 ... gse_565800

Translated:
The judges responsible for the investigation, Marc Trévidic and Yves Jannier, confirmed the existence of this hypothesis during their meeting on Thursday in Cherbourg with the families of the victims. According to confidences gathered by Liberation, this punitive expedition would have consisted in breaking the legs of three Pakistani admirals and in liquidating a soldier of a lower rank.
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a very dear friend of the pakis, recently disillusioned....

remember robin raphel, the illegitimate birth mother of the hurriyat and one of the earliest ameriki state dept Hindu haters



After three decades, former US diplomat & friend of Pakistan & jihadis in Kashmir, Robin Raphel admits that America got fooled by the Pak Army in Afghanistan. Says Washington is now realistic & does not have any illusions about Rawalpindi. In other words, she means US was stupid.
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chetak wrote: remember robin raphel, the illegitimate birth mother of the hurriyat and one of the earliest ameriki state dept Hindu haters
She is a snake of a first kind and a thru and thru India/Hindu hater.
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chetak wrote:a very dear friend of the pakis, recently disillusioned....

remember robin raphel, the illegitimate birth mother of the hurriyat and one of the earliest ameriki state dept Hindu haters

After three decades, former US diplomat & friend of Pakistan & jihadis in Kashmir, Robin Raphel admits that America got fooled by the Pak Army in Afghanistan. Says Washington is now realistic & does not have any illusions about Rawalpindi. In other words, she means US was stupid.
via@AartiTikoo·15 Jul
Why the **** are Desis giving importance to her? She got investigated by US agencies and is trying to show herself as a good citizen and hoping to curry favor with the Biden (Democrat) Administration.
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Anujan wrote: Pakis set off a bomb blast to kill French engineers because France did not give kickbacks in the Agosta submarine contracts.

French intelligence broke the knees (not exaggerating, actually broke knees) of the Vice Admiral and ISI jernails involved in the attack.

We will know soon if China is in the business of breaking knees or cutting off mijjiles
Yes, Anujan ji. That attack was partly what made me wonder about this one.

Do the Chinese have direct links/influence with the Talibs or other parties which can hit the uniformed Jihadis?

You can't be a super power if you can't hit both your enemies and your friends...
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anupmisra wrote:
Sheikh Chilly has just confirmed our suspicions with this statement:

15 Chinese officials part of Dasu incident investigation: Sheikh Rashid
Anup ji, the unusually blunt (almost bordering on accusatory) tweet and the large presence of Chinese officials in the investigation could also indicate that the Chinese are not buying the India-sponsored or even bad-taliban / terrorists job.

Of course in public the Chinese will support the 'proofs' found by the Pakis showing Indian/Bad Taliban hand, but behind the scenes they might well draw their own conclusions about it being a hit job by the Pak fauj (a faction of it anyway, say for eg the Ameriki pasand ones) and use it to extract an even greater pound of flesh (via CPEC returns) from the Pakis.

The current Paki sarkar will have no objections (the Fauj runs the show anyway) since it will just add to the debt for the future generation of Pakis... Bajwa and his cronies can also use it in their own way to suppress/ease out their fellow jernails who are challenging his top position and their ascendancy.
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Manish_P wrote:
anupmisra wrote:
Sheikh Chilly has just confirmed our suspicions with this statement:

15 Chinese officials part of Dasu incident investigation: Sheikh Rashid
Anup ji, the unusually blunt (almost bordering on accusatory) tweet and the large presence of Chinese officials in the investigation could also indicate that the Chinese are not buying the India-sponsored or even bad-taliban / terrorists job.
Manish, I accept your hypothesis that the chinis have given up on the bakis' narrative. Too often, too vague, too convenient, and too self-absolving.

However, the classic adage of "chor ki dhadhi mein tinka" starts to apply here.

My thesis still remains that this was a false flag operation by the chinis (and maybe with even with the connivance of the paid-off jernails). A few convenient chini workers and unnamed baki laborers were polished off for the greater good. The chinis, who have now quickly positioned their conveniently available investigation team among the baki investigators, will begin to control the narrative. Note, no non-state actors have yet claimed responsibility for this attack, which is quite strange.

As part of their report, the chinis will now officially require greater protection of their workers by their own PLA conscripts if the bakis wish to see SeePack succeed and, thus, pave the way for a full-time chini garrison in occupied cashmere.

Two birds with one stone ("ek teer doh nishaney"), saar!
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Next move by baki army/Immy the dimwit.

PM Imran plans on making AJK a new province, claims Maryam
PML-N Vice President Maryam Nawaz on Sunday claimed that Prime Minister Imran Khan plans on making Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK) a new province of Pakistan, insisting that “a decision has already been taken in this regard.”
She alleged that the prime minister's rally in AJK yesterday was organised through taxpayers’ money, also saying that the ruling party couldn’t even gather enough people to call it a public gathering.
This will end the cashmere imbroglio forever. UN be damned. Will Modi now pick up IK Niazi's desperate phone calls? If I were in Modi's shoes, I would have a low-level peon answer the call with a blunt statement - "saheb yoga kar rahein hain. Koi message?"

https://www.dawn.com/news/1635844/pm-im ... ims-maryam
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I am looking at the bomb blast and politics arround it for some time. Given the nature of the power's involved. I am quite convinced of this being a false flag operation.

Executed jointly by TSP and CCP. The objective is to accuse India of having conducted this outrage against peace full cooperation between TSP and CCP.

My reasons for believing that are as follows.

1) it gives PRC a fig leaf for a joint Anti terrorist operations against India.

2) they think can get away with it because the US has tucked it's tale between it's legs and will not have any apatite to get into another fight in the region.

3) India however strong doesn't have the MIC to sustain a 2 front fight for more than 6 weeks. All the more so because most of quantity of weapons is of Russian origin. If the PRC can prevent the Russians from supplying weapons in a timely fashion. India will face difficulty.

4) This time period is also not sufficient for the American government to support India to prevent any collapse. Because the quantity of non Russian equipment is not sufficient.

5) PRC can rationalise this action with a thought process that a defeated & humiliated India will withdraw into a shell and in turn quad will lose one pillar. Which in their thought process will secure the western front and remove any potential for Tibetan separatist movement.


What do people think?
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anupmisra wrote:...

As part of their report, the chinis will now officially require greater protection of their workers by their own PLA conscripts if the bakis wish to see SeePack succeed and, thus, pave the way for a full-time chini garrison in occupied cashmere.

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Anup ji, isn't there a tallel and deeper friendship pact between the two Iron brothers.. why bother with false flag ops.. (even with the possibility that those halaled were lower level jail bird Chinese labour).. especially considering that such a public statement questioning the competency of the Pak fauj is very insulting to that most important requirement - their 'H&D'.

Tomorrow we might move a whole division and few missile batteries in Bhutan. What will the Chinese do about it? We certainly don't need a false flag op for it, do we?
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Jay wrote:
chetak wrote: remember robin raphel, the illegitimate birth mother of the hurriyat and one of the earliest ameriki state dept Hindu haters
She is a snake of a first kind and a thru and thru India/Hindu hater.
Which is no different than current officials in the US regime.
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Daughter of Afghan envoy abducted and ‘severely tortured’ in Pakistan

Silsila Alikhil, 26, was badly beaten and held for over five hours in Islamabad, according to diplomatic sources


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... n-pakistan
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Pratyush wrote:I am looking at the bomb blast and politics arround it for some time. Given the nature of the power's involved. I am quite convinced of this being a false flag operation.

Executed jointly by TSP and CCP. The objective is to accuse India of having conducted this outrage against peace full cooperation between TSP and CCP.

There was once a frog and a scorpion. They were friends. The scorpion wanted to cross the river one day. The frog said, sit on my back, and I will swim the river. The scorpion sat on the frog's back

Midway, the scorpion stung the frog. Paralyzed, the frog started to sink. The frog asked the scorpion "Why did you sting me? We'll both drown now". The scorpion replied "It is my nature, I cannot help it".


Pakis have set off bum blast against every one of their allies. This includes massa (remember that once in a while Pakis would close the torkham crossing, fuel trucks would line up, one of the trucks would go kaboom and the rest would catch fire? This was after Massa supplied the Pakis with AAMRAMs, The fuel was bought from Paki refineries, and the trucks and truckers were all Pakistani). The reasons at that time was varied

a) To show who is the boss
b) To deliberately spend as less money as possible for security
c) Local fights about who is getting paid off and who is not

Now, we could analyze the latest vacuum bulb blast in Dasu and see deep planning like a false flag operation. But it is likely to be one of

a) Jernails siphoned off money meant for security and there was nobody guarding the buss
b) Jernails were not getting paid off, sent a ransom note to the construction company, and then blew up the bus to tell them they are serious
c) Pakis trying to get some leverage against Cheen. Cheen has Paki testimonials in their hand and are squeezing them -- read about circular debt in power sector and how cheen is driving them to banruptcy.

Cheen probably saw through this and wants the "perpetrators to be punished". But who is going to punish Bajwa hain ji?
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Not certain the Pakistanis had anything to do with this attack on the Chinese bus. It could be caused by a Chinese dissident group, yes? Pakistan is not able to suppress information, and arms and ammunition are constitutionally available. it is natural then for disaffected Chinese groups to exact revenge by acting in Pakistan. That will explain why the Chinese are involving themselves in the investigation so deeply.
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1635819
Afghan envoy's daughter not abducted, it is an 'international racket' led by RAW: Sheikh Rashid
Published July 18, 2021

Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid on Sunday denied the abduction of the daughter of Afghanistan's ambassador to Pakistan in Islamabad, saying it was an "international racket" led by Indian intelligence agency Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) to defame Pakistan.
Ambassador Najibullah Alikhil’s daughter, Silsila Alikhil, was allegedly kidnapped on Friday from the federal capital’s commercial hub by unidentified persons, who also subjected her to torture.
She was returning home in the afternoon in a taxi after visiting a bakery in Islamabad's Blue Area when the driver picked up another man, who verbally abused and assaulted her. She was later dropped in an unconscious condition by the taxi driver on a roadside.
Speaking on Geo News programme Naya Pakistan, Rashid said the investigation carried out so far had not shown that the woman was abducted.
"There has been no kidnapping," he said. "I want to tell the entire nation, this is an international racket, an international conspiracy, this is the agenda of RAW," he added, saying the Indian intelligence agency had propagated the impression of her abduction across the world.
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Mort Walker wrote:
Jay wrote:
She is a snake of a first kind and a thru and thru India/Hindu hater.
Which is no different than current officials in the US regime.
Which is also no different from earlier officials in the US regime.
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The attack on Army Public School Peshawar was a Paki Army Operation managed by a retired brigadier coordinated with the ISI. Those school kids were killed by the paki army.

This is an interview with the now missing Ehsanullah Ehsan.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hFeFvOIt6s
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Anujan wrote:...

a) To show who is the boss
b) To deliberately spend as less money as possible for security
c) Local fights about who is getting paid off and who is not

Now, we could analyze the latest vacuum bulb blast in Dasu and see deep planning like a false flag operation. But it is likely to be one of

a) Jernails siphoned off money meant for security and there was nobody guarding the buss
b) Jernails were not getting paid off, sent a ransom note to the construction company, and then blew up the bus to tell them they are serious
c) Pakis trying to get some leverage against Cheen. Cheen has Paki testimonials in their hand and are squeezing them -- read about circular debt in power sector and how cheen is driving them to banruptcy.

Cheen probably saw through this and wants the "perpetrators to be punished". But who is going to punish Bajwa hain ji?
I concur with your reading of the scene, Anujan ji...

If the chinese really want to punish Bajwa, what options do they really have? Do they have links with the Talibs/groups that can hit the Pak fauj? Will they try to cut the pimp and do direct business with the Talibs (they certainly have the money for it)?

They can't remove support at forums like the IMF etc since they have more to lose than the Pakis (so in a sense the Chinese ding-dong is also firmly in the hands of the Pakis). And the ever paranoid chinese are fearful of the Pakis (really the Americans) being connected to their achillles heel - Xinjiang

IMVHO given that the current Chinese are uber-baniyas, they will probably settle to extract more monies (via CPEC) as the penalties (unlike the knee breaking French). Both the Pak Fauj and the current Pak goverment will have no qualms since they are not going to be the ones who will have to bear the burden of repayment anyway.

In any case how many Pak jernails (and even politicos and RAPEs) foresee a cushy retirement life for themselves (and the business of their offspring) in China, as compared to what they have done in the US for the past decades.
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https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2021/0 ... aishankar/
Delhi played role to keep Islamabad on FATF grey list: Jaishankar
By TLTP, July 18, 2021

NEW DELHI: India finally on Sunday admitted that Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government ensured that Pakistan remains on the grey list of the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), ANI news agency quoted External Affairs Minister (MEA) S Jaishankar as saying.
“Due to us, Pakistan is under the lens of FATF and it was kept in the grey list,” Jaishankar said while addressing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leaders.
Jaishankar claimed that India was successful in “pressurising” the neighbouring country via the FATF, saying that Pakistan “changed” its behaviour due to the measures taken by the Modi government.
Modi made “personal efforts on global forums like G7 and G20 to keep Pakistan on the list, ANI also quoted the Indian minister as saying.
Last month, the FATF — the global body working to combat the financing of terrorism and money laundering — retained Pakistan on its grey list despite the country meeting 26 of the 27 conditions and handed it over a new six-point action plan, keeping Islamabad exposed to global pressure tactics.
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Interesting new interview of Gen. Tariq Khan

At 33:55, says Pak should GUBO :mrgreen: and invite US to balance out Chinese influence by giving them another port. Wants conflict "to be taken east". "Doesn't matter if China wins or US wins, Pak will be devastated"

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Killing of the Chinese engineers is 100% inside job. The area has been incident free. This was a sophisticated set up that was designed to make the whole incident look like an accident. Needs inside access. Incident was timed well with Taliban issues in neighboring Afghanistan to pass the blame. Bus has 30 Engineers. The objective may be was to get more killed.

Chinese are not coming down hard for no reason. Either Pakistan army has started the double game with China or someone believes Chinese are easy targets in a plain commercial rivalry.

What can Chinese do: Many things because Pakis are cheap. China can buy a lot of generals a comfortable living in west with Papa John franchises. But they don't have to spend money. Just cancelling some video meeting impacts Pakis H&D.
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CalvinH wrote:Killing of the Chinese engineers is 100% inside job. The area has been incident free. This was a sophisticated set up that was designed to make the whole incident look like an accident. Needs inside access. Incident was timed well with Taliban issues in neighboring Afghanistan to pass the blame. Bus has 30 Engineers. The objective may be was to get more killed.

Chinese are not coming down hard for no reason. Either Pakistan army has started the double game with China or someone believes Chinese are easy targets in a plain commercial rivalry.

What can Chinese do: Many things because Pakis are cheap. China can buy a lot of generals a comfortable living in west with Papa John franchises. But they don't have to spend money. Just cancelling some video meeting impacts Pakis H&D.
any general who thinks that he can side with chineese and retire in west is mistaken.

That aside, the plan of bakis seems to be working, chineese stopped working on the dam. since the dam is funded by world bank, bakis will wait for some time and allocate the contract to some other firm.
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Manish_P wrote:Anup ji, isn't there a tallel and deeper friendship pact between the two Iron brothers..
Surprisingly the fliendship pact does not allow PLA to take over development sites. Each project (Gwadar, for example) has required a separate "arrangement" between the pakis and their short friends. Besides, stationing PLA troops in PoK will violate UN norms. Paki position would weaken. India would probably raise hell. Therefore, the protection of workers seems to be a logical option.

Therefore, the chinis need to create a situation that forces "worker protection" as a chini right. The ultimate game plan is to encircle India. If PLA moves into PoK, Indians can very easily invite the Americans or the Israelis.

Checkmate!
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anupmisra wrote:
In an indirect reference to his recent interview with Jonathan Swan on HBO wherein he remarked in outright negative when asked if Pakistan would allow US bases in Pakistan, Imran explained that he would not be in a position to make the “absolutely not” comment to the United States, had his properties and assets been out of Pakistan.
But...but...but...since half his ministers and most of his genrails have overseas properties and businesses, they are in a better position to offer such bases.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1635634/pakis ... f-pm-imran
Forget ministers and gernails having properties outside, Chutiya Imran has many US/UK Passport holders who are serving as ministers and 'advisers' in his cabinet. Who does he think these people are serving and reporting to?

Absolutely Not - The Jinn on the wall told me don't say it :mrgreen:
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/1 ... -diplomats
Pakistan urges Afghanistan to reconsider recall of diplomats
Pakistan’s foreign ministry describes Kabul’s decision to recall diplomats ‘unfortunate and regrettable’ after ambassador’s daughter abducted.
19 Jul 2021

Pakistan’s foreign ministry has termed the Afghan government’s decision to recall its ambassador and senior diplomats from its embassy in Islamabad “unfortunate and regrettable”, after the ambassador’s daughter was abducted and assaulted last week.
In a statement released late on Sunday, Pakistan’s foreign ministry said the incident was being investigated “at the highest level”.
“The decision by the Government of Afghanistan to recall its ambassador and senior diplomats from Pakistan is unfortunate and regrettable,” said the statement.
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1636090/pakis ... rans-phone
Pakistan to raise hacking by India of Imran’s phone
Syed Irfan Raza, July 20, 2021

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Monday decided to raise the issue of hacking of Prime Minister Imran Khan’s telephone calls by India with relevant forums.
“We are waiting for details of the hacking,” Information Minis­ter Fawad Chaudhry told Dawn.
Once details are received the issue will be raised at appropriate forums, the minister said when asked whether the government will take up the matter with India.
Earlier in a tweet, the minister expressed concern over reports that the Indian government used Israeli software to spy on journalists and political opponents.
“Extremely concerned on news reports emerging from @guardiannews that Indian government used Israeli software to spy on journalists, political opponents and politicians. Unethical policies of #ModiGovt have dangerously polarised India and the region… More details are emerging,” Mr Chaudhry tweeted.
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anupmisra wrote:
Surprisingly the fliendship pact does not allow PLA to take over development sites. Each project (Gwadar, for example) has required a separate "arrangement" between the pakis and their short friends.


Besides, stationing PLA troops in PoK will violate UN norms.

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Hmm interesting point. Is there a short summary of the broader China Pak defense co-operation pact/agreement?

As regards individual projects I would think each of those would be primarily commercial agreements, their security details being subsumed under the over-arching defense agreement.

Valid point about UN norms violation but then that's where VETO ownership would come in handy, at the very least as a bargaining chip.
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Pakistan customs burn seized drugs near border, smoke sends security agencies in tizzy
“On seeing thick clouds of smoke, our first impression was of a terrorist attack across the border or a major fire incident; in any case, we had to be alert,” said a source in Border Security Force (BSF).
When probed, it was revealed that Pakistan customs had set seized drugs and other contrabands on fire.
Sources said Pakistan customs, normally, burn seized drugs every year on January 26 to mark International Customs Day at Wagah, near Indo-Pak international border. :roll:
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Ashokk wrote:Pakistan customs burn seized drugs near border, smoke sends security agencies in tizzy
“On seeing thick clouds of smoke, our first impression was of a terrorist attack across the border or a major fire incident; in any case, we had to be alert,” said a source in Border Security Force (BSF).
When probed, it was revealed that Pakistan customs had set seized drugs and other contrabands on fire.
Sources said Pakistan customs, normally, burn seized drugs every year on January 26 to mark International Customs Day at Wagah, near Indo-Pak international border. :roll:
This would have nothing to do with Republic day right?
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Manish_P wrote:Is there a short summary of the broader China Pak defense co-operation pact/agreement?
That agreement, my friend, I believe is the second most closely guarded secret in Bakistan, after Gen. Bajwa's religious affiliations. Nothing pops up if one googles "CPEC agreement" or "CPEC Defense Pact". If the details were ever to be made public (about CPEC, that is) the paki government could fall.

If details about Bajwa's religious.... wait, that's another story for another time.
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Re: Terroristan - April 15, 2021

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The only reference I could find on security for chini investments comes from an article by Nikkei dated December 2020.

China and Pakistan ink military MOU to counter US-India pact
Gen. Wei Fenghe, China's defense minister and state councilor, visited Islamabad last week for three days and signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) to enhance defense cooperation between the Pakistan Army and the People's Liberation Army.
Unlike the U.S.-India defense arrangement, details of the China-Pakistan pact have not been made public.
Pakistan made clear the importance of Wei's visit to mutual defense arrangements by bestowing a prestigious national award on him, the Nishan-e-Imtiaz
During his visit, Wei expressed satisfaction with security provided to infrastructure projects in the second phase of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a $50 billion component in China's Belt and Road Initiative. Behind the scenes, the Chinese may not be so sanguine, however, since troop increases and other security measures have not prevented occasional raids.
"China will worry about the security issue so long as its projects and the Chinese personnel working on them continue to be attacked," said Kugelman. "Still, security concerns will not prompt Beijing to scale back its investments in Pakistan."
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Intern ... India-pact
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Re: Terroristan - April 15, 2021

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anupmisra wrote:
That agreement, my friend, I believe is the second most closely guarded secret in Bakistan, after Gen. Bajwa's religious affiliations. Nothing pops up if one googles "CPEC agreement" or "CPEC Defense Pact". If the details were ever to be made public (about CPEC, that is) the paki government could fall.

If details about Bajwa's religious.... wait, that's another story for another time.
:lol:

I have firmly believed that the paki jernails till the recent past were all ungodly. Religion being just a tool they used for holding on to power. The upcoming generation of afsars (and thence future Jernails) on the other hand is probably pure fundoos, thanks in part due to Zia and his policies (especially in education)

As regards the details of the Pact. Yes, I had tried for some time to see if I could gather tidbits but zilch (I can't read urdu or order paki vernacular but it is very highly unlikely that there will be any info there anyway). Then again we know that Paki MoUs are not worth the price of the papers they are printed on..
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Re: Terroristan - April 15, 2021

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‘Shot and slaughtered’: Former Pakistan diplomat Shaukat Ali Mukadam’s daughter brutally murdered in Islamabad
Islamabad: In a massive flare up of events in India’s neighbouring country, a former Pakistan diplomat’s daughter was found murdered on Tuesday night at her residence in Islamabad, local media reports stated.

Identified as Noor Mukadam, the 27-year-old daughter of former Pakistani diplomat to South Korea – Shaukat Ali Mukadam – was found shot dead in a house in F-7/4, Islamabad.
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err why does India come into the picture here.
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Maybe because of the fact that it's an Indian outlet that is reporting this news.
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Dilbu wrote:‘Shot and slaughtered’: Former Pakistan diplomat Shaukat Ali Mukadam’s daughter brutally murdered in Islamabad
Islamabad: In a massive flare up of events in India’s neighbouring country, a former Pakistan diplomat’s daughter was found murdered on Tuesday night at her residence in Islamabad, local media reports stated.

Identified as Noor Mukadam, the 27-year-old daughter of former Pakistani diplomat to South Korea – Shaukat Ali Mukadam – was found shot dead in a house in F-7/4, Islamabad.
AFG were quick to get their revenge
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Chinese engineers seen carrying AK47 rifles in #Pakistan while working in various projects of #CPEC, pix going viral in social media of #China after 09 Chinese engineers were killed in bomb-explosion in #KhyberPakhtunkhwa province on 14th July
Deeper than mountains and taller than ocean frandsheep brothers in Pakistan have to work with rifles just for their own personal safety.
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