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Chetakji
These peacefuls from Afghanistan have they been brought back??
No regret in any of them
Still believe in khilafat
Have the Commies made demands for their welcome and welfare
At least Shamina put on an act of contrition but these have none
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Rsatchi wrote:These peacefuls from Afghanistan have they been brought back??
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Have the Commies made demands for their welcome and welfare
None of them have been brought back, and chances of GoI doing that is also very bleak. IIRC parents of one of the women approached Supreme Court but the court stated that it cannot ask GoI to take a particular course of action especially in matters of foreign country and diplomatic relation. Mother of another woman - Nimisha Fathima - also made a lot of hollering and cheap gimmicks to arm twist GoI. This woman was a die hard secular commie, who at one point had gleefully accepted the Jehadi husband of her daughter. She said she would be at the airport to welcome them if GoI plans to bring the daughter and kid home. Jehadi hubby any way had more urgent business with the 72 hoors. This woman finally even shamelessly said that India is a Hindu nation (Hindu Rashtra), she is a Hindu and even then GoI is not giving her what she wants.

After the Kerala Story movie was released peacefools in KL also demanded that these women are brought back to India, so that the truth related to their religious conversion and travel to ISIS territory can be told :roll:.
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Rsatchi wrote:Chetakji
These peacefuls from Afghanistan have they been brought back??
No regret in any of them
Still believe in khilafat
Have the Commies made demands for their welcome and welfare
At least Shamina put on an act of contrition but these have none
Only if 50% of those who vote for seculars along with leaders and backers also make a similar trip freeing up Indian Babudom, Media, Land, Industries, HR, draining the swamp of Naxal, North East miltants, Terrorists cadre
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The current INC Govt. in Kar has decided to put on hold development/Infra projects initiated by previous Govt for sake of "reviewing"...expect many of them to be cancelled...to fulfil poll freebie promises, the money needs to be allocated from somewhere else and as predicted, Infra development will take a hit. I should not wish this up on my own state, but I hope centre will be prudent & scrutinise before releasing funds to state for "development/Infra"...
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chetak wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:Well, if INC, DMK TMC deliver all promises they would have never lost elections in 70 years, like INC 2000 Rs promise, allies DMK promised 1RS in TN 2021 this has been quietly buried.

Regarding corruption charges some of it might be true but I am sure a lot of it also built by rumors of by the INC ecosystem.
The idea of "godi" media is laughable, especially when the media is still so very firmly ensconced in the congi/commie/abrahamic laps

The Sanātana Dharmic supporters have never had a godi media of their own

They shot down arnab when they could have easily supported him on the quiet, and built up a ecosystem to tackle and blunt counter narratives[/quote
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Janab,

I did not say cultivate

I said organically grow your own media ecosystems to counter the tirade of disinformation

We are far too big a country to allow offshore BIF entities to dominate the Indian media space as they now do. It has serious NATSEC implications going forward

no other country allows it


Chetak Saar,
If we were to see the Maharashtra issue when Arnab was taken to jail, we had the same flailing here, but eventually in the end the commissioner was out and the home minister is in jail (or maybe out on bail) and things were quietly taken care of. That must have happened with the blessings of the powers that be. i don't think Arnab has the wherewithal to do this himself nor are the justices proactively working for sanatan causes.

The head of BJP current dispensation at the very top feel that they have come into power inspite of the media and not because of it. So there is a reluctance on cultivating/growing the sanatan eco-system. But they are trying to ensure a level playing field and that is destroying most of the existing unholy media power structures and driving out the termites. Many a name that have padma awards, overseas ones like magasasay award holders have been consigned to the dustbin.

Also, Organically growing the media is in one way cultivating it only no Saar, as we are talking about Sanatan leaning news here. And these news channels along with the owners and people working there will have a target on their back constantly. Arnab's Republic is not right leaning per se but is only probably better than the rest in certain issues. His channel is also silent on Kujliwal's corruption or non performance.

It should also put in programs that tell people about how freebies/revadi culture will destroy the state. We don't see any of that. There are others like Sudarshan Tv but needs quite a bit of work before its taken seriously by even the fence sitters.
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Cyrano wrote:BJP claims to be a party or at least adorns itself with the tag of a party with ideology and not dynastic. What is this ideology ? At a national level it is national interest and good governance that is development oriented and corruption free. At a state level, their narrative is double engine sarkar but its clear that they have failed in KA to implement this ideology and dare I say "values". Its the same case in various other states in which it has been in power for a while. Out of the 16 states it is in power, except for UP and perhaps Assam, we neither see dedication to the way it functions at the center nor is there much innovation.

BJP needs to resolve this dichotomy of functioning and performance between center and states to benefit from the enormous goodwill earned by Modi and his ministers. If the voter gets a "no different from corrupt factionalised congress" image at state level, it will definitely negatively impact his propensity to vote for the same party with the belief that it will somehow miraculously functions entirely differently at the center.

The separation of powers at state and center levels means that at the state level the govt needs to be a lot more "on the ground" on a daily basis and resolve innumerable small and big issues round the clock, where as at the center level its more about policy making, financial management, internal security, diplomacy and defense.

I think after nearly a decade in power, BJP has begun to understand and employ the organs of the state at the center. This learning however seems to not help much at the state level where the mandate and issues to tackle are different. From the partly leadership, innovative capability building within the party is missing. Why cant BJP set up a "good governance university" in which it trains its cadre on public interaction, accessibility, problem identification and collection, redressal, reporting back, transparency etc. Even if they are in opposition, these skills will help keep the non-BJP govt in power on its toes and give credibility as a party with a difference. When next election time comes, this will help maximise the benefit from anti-incumbency factor and win.

BJP is the most well funded party by far. Instead of spending all of that exclusively on posters banners and electioneering, I'd like to see them spend it on becoming the party with the most well informed and trained cadre in laws, policies, state machinery, governance tools and techniques, feedback collection and analysis etc etc. Run the party like a modern entreprise in certain critical dimensions, and not simply drag along as a vestige of the past seven decades of collective rot poured into a hindutva bottle only smeared on the outside with saffron paste? Is it unrealistic to expect such innovation from this party?
Cyrano Saar,
The term double engine Sarkar was coined around the UP elections of 2022 to campaign for the state to receive maximum benefits with both BJP govts working seamlessly. Even in UP the BJP has won because of Yogi and without him the result would have been similar to Karnataka. BJP there also faced the same issues - maybe not too much corruption but definitely had the issue of BJP MLA's and local leaders missing during the two years of Covid to solve any issues of local people. Most of the local leaders seem to prefer for Modi, Shah to come save their hides during election time and wet at the public trough during the 5 years so to speak.

There is very little work co-ordination and seeing a work through and there are myriad issues of caste, region barriers within the state. Covid has taken a certain sheen off the local BJP leaders ( we also saw the whole of the Gujarat govt replaced before elections). The issue was the same in UP with regards to the leaders work on the ground.

The other problem that is highlighted is the feedback collection analysis and to act on it the local state leadership has to be in agreement to it. Yedurappa has made the lingayats vote for the congress or atleast he didn't stop them from voting to the other side once he was disposed. there in lies another problem. One who can see an issue and suggest remedial measures may not be a good politician to win. While the local politician might be very good at garnering votes even if he is corrupt or non performing.

Modi has taken the gauntlet by stating that there will be one ticket per family and people need to retire after 75. We will see some upheaval in the short term and need to keep faith.

Afterall a few election victories in the span of 8-9 years so far made Rahul Gandhi to remember he is janeu brahmin and mamata to recite chandi paath, Arvind kejriwal to sing hanuman chalisa. Another set like this and Hindu issues will not have to suffer in the background.
Right now most of the issues are highlighted and eventually put on back burner by secular parties, another round like this and they will be forced to answer for their muslim appeasement and resolve hindu issues.
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Demands from a FFNGO which is not even Indian in origin

this is what neverwho and his mafia clan have long allowed in India, based on the instructions of the BIF


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Amnesty, a Foreign NGO, demands these changes from the Karnataka govt.

Great job by those wanting to teach the BJP a lesson.
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^^^ They are not asking Government of Karnataka to take action, They are asking @INCKarnataka, a political party to take action.
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Amnesty India is headed by Aakar Patel.
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The way to end this Freebie Disease is for the state to first spend all available money on infrastructure, so that nothing is left over to be hijacked for possible freebies. Don't leave any cash lying around to be used for freebies.

aka. "Starve the Beast"
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Good luck with this Govt, other than outright banning Hinduism they are willing to do everything. My perdition this will be worst Karnataka Govt, there will complete breakdown of law and order, there will zero governance and all infrastructure will stop. These statements almost look like war on Hindus seems to be the only agenda.
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When fools are given a right to vote, this is what results. Just like TN.

Two so-called educated & wealthy states
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Aditya_V wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 484319.cms
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Good luck with this Govt, other than outright banning Hinduism they are willing to do everything. My perdition this will be worst Karnataka Govt, there will complete breakdown of law and order, there will zero governance and all infrastructure will stop. These statements almost look like war on Hindus seems to be the only agenda.
The entire hijab issue got blown up because hindu students started wearing saffron scarves in retaliation. What's stopping that from happening again ?

It'll be popcorn time if the Cong Govt reverses the ban.
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https://twitter.com/arunpudur/status/16 ... 97152?s=20


Arun Pudur @arunpudur
#Karnataka Massive Election Scam by CONgress.

The village head says "CONgress gave ATM Card (look alike) to each woman claiming it has ₹5,000 for any purchases they want to do in any shopping mall".

Adds "CONgress candidate claimed he alone issued over 60,000 such cards. All CONgress candidates have issued similar cards everywhere. In one house 5 women got ₹25,000. They said we can use it after they win the elections. After we gave them votes, they won and now we found out these cards don't have any money. We ask the candidates to give the money they promised to us".

So basically Hindu men sold their vote for ₹1,000 + Liquor, Free 200 units electricity and ₹3,000/mth unemployment money.

Hindu women sold it for ₹5,000 Gift card, Promise of ₹2,000/mth, Free Bus pass, Cheap Cylinder and 10Kg rice.

Now after CONgress won they have not delivered anything and based on CM orders it is clear Hindus who voted for Freebies will get nothing.
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VKumar wrote:Amnesty India is headed by Aakar Patel.
aakar ahmed patel.
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LOL...so HD Kumarswamy & BJP's Pratap Simha (Mysore constituency) have called on citizens not pay electricity bill if their consumption is less than 200 units from June 1st...if consumption is more than 200 units, Pratap Simha has requested folks to pay bill on excess units alone and this is regardless of income status. HD Kumarswamy has said that he'll hit the street demanding ticket less rides in KSRTC & BMTC for women passengers and also questioning sudden conditions for unemployment support for 2022-23 graduates onlee...this will be fun.

Link to HDK Interview
The interview is in Kannada though...

This is how BJPKar should fight back...make sure INC sticks to their poll promises (INC had said that they will stick no matter what the financial implications to the state is) and highlight in a year, how infra development & other projects have slowed down or halted...preferably a couple of months before GE 2024...
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It is a good move. A lesson for all the political parties.
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Zynda wrote:LOL...so HD Kumarswamy & BJP's Pratap Simha (Mysore constituency) have called on citizens not pay electricity bill if their consumption is less than 200 units from June 1st...if consumption is more than 200 units, Pratap Simha has requested folks to pay bill on excess units alone and this is regardless of income status. HD Kumarswamy has said that he'll hit the street demanding ticket less rides in KSRTC & BMTC for women passengers and also questioning sudden conditions for unemployment support for 2022-23 graduates onlee...this will be fun.

Link to HDK Interview
The interview is in Kannada though...

This is how BJPKar should fight back...make sure INC sticks to their poll promises (INC had said that they will stick no matter what the financial implications to the state is) and highlight in a year, how infra development & other projects have slowed down or halted...preferably a couple of months before GE 2024...
he had a deal with the congis on which they reneged and his die-nasty is royally screwed

moreover, they took his votes but did nor give anything in return after they managed the majority.

his rosy dream of joint account has evaporated and vanished into the thin air

grandpappy is once again back to mending fences with Modi and is attending the inauguration of the new parliament building.

hallucinating "king" makers can also end up in the garbage can

maybe the BJP is waiting to first finish off matters concerned with the new parliament building in dilli before hitting the streets to corner the congis
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BJP will look for a repeat sweep in the 2024 LS elections in KA. It is important for them. So whatever they do or refrain from doing will be aimed towards that.
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So, as expected, INC is turning to increase power tariffs on Industrial units in order to fulfill poll promise of 200 units of free power. Industries especially MSME are saying it will be difficult to sustain a severe increase...hopefully, this won't lead to loss in jobs

Industries in parts of Karnataka consider shutting down over power tariff hike
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They will leave for states with lower tariffs.
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Pratyush wrote:They will leave for states with lower tariffs.
Which in turn would lead to job seeking people following suit.

Now where have we seen this pattern before... :)
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sanman wrote:


The way to end this Freebie Disease is for the state to first spend all available money on infrastructure, so that nothing is left over to be hijacked for possible freebies. Don't leave any cash lying around to be used for freebies.

aka. "Starve the Beast"
Sanman Saaru,
States in India don't have any money lying around so to speak and almost all of them are running deficits even with infra push. But freebies and social program get more votes than actual infra that helps the whole state/region. people are least bothered as long as their own pockets are filled come election day. that is what is happening in pretty much all the southern "educated/politically active and aware" states.

What INC karnataka will do is
1. stop all infa projects and only go through those that allow them to make some money and then with the saved money, give only a portion of freebies to their sections leading in inefficient implementation.
2. untill the general 2024 elections they can try external borrowing to run up the deficits to put an incoming govt in a much bigger hole.
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srin wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 484319.cms
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Good luck with this Govt, other than outright banning Hinduism they are willing to do everything. My perdition this will be worst Karnataka Govt, there will complete breakdown of law and order, there will zero governance and all infrastructure will stop. These statements almost look like war on Hindus seems to be the only agenda.
The entire hijab issue got blown up because hindu students started wearing saffron scarves in retaliation. What's stopping that from happening again ?

It'll be popcorn time if the Cong Govt reverses the ban.
They will reverse the ban and then arrest select hindus/hindu organization leaders in the name of disturbing peace/tranquility and secularism with parts of local media and actors like Prakash Raj providing covering fire for their actions.
Afterall, in bihar the arrest of one you tuber Manish Kashyap led to almost all you tubers from speaking against the local Bihar govt, at least for now. the same will be followed in Karnataka and elsewhere to control Hindus and sanatan leaning folks.
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(IMO) The whole hijab nonsense has a dangerous underlying motive:
1) Prevent the peaceful girls from socializing with non-peacefuls especially Hindus; and,
2) Identify non-Muslim candidates for Peacefuls to target for grooming (aka Kerala story).
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Zynda wrote:So, as expected, INC is turning to increase power tariffs on Industrial units in order to fulfill poll promise of 200 units of free power. Industries especially MSME are saying it will be difficult to sustain a severe increase...hopefully, this won't lead to loss in jobs

Industries in parts of Karnataka consider shutting down over power tariff hike
This is how states like West Bengal and Bihar -- most industrially advanced at Independence -- turned into basket cases, and now churn out refugees who go to other states to look for a job. Stupidity of HIndu voters in voting for wrong leaders was the reason (you can see that in Kerala, and now in Karnataka). Now people from Bengal and Bihar are butt of ridicule and contempt. Call a Bihari a Bihari ... he takes it as an insult. There is a stampede of Bengalis out of Kolkata to Delhi for jobs. Every time I advertise for a job in my company in Delhi, 8 out of 10 resumes I get are emailed straight from Kolkata. Bengalis are also developing inferiority complex about their state, I can see from the way they write their resumes (hiding their schooling and college from Bengal, and only mentioning higher education they may have done from any place outside bengal, like Delhi or bengaluru). Most of the Bengalis doing a job in Delhi try to pretend as if they have nothing to do with Bengal and have not gone to Bengal in decades. Happy communism!
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I believe that Modi is the most visionary national level leader since independence and is fundamentally transforming the country. I fervently hope that he/BJP will win in 2024 and run the country for another 5 years. If so, it will put India on a faster trajectory to become a "developed" country in the next couple of decades and a true global force to reckon with geopolitically, economically and a much stronger military power.

However, BJP's loss in Karnataka elections are potentially mainly due to "local" issues. As the saying goes "all politics are local".

1. There was tremendous anti-incumbency against the BJP. The govt was corrupt (no better than the CONgress (I) or the JD (S) regimes). The infrastructure in a city like Bangalore is atrocious. Not a whole lot of things offered to rural areas. i would have a hard time voting for BJP if were resident of Bangalore my city of birth.

2. Looks like the Congress (I) "freebie" poll manifesto resonated with people. It may be economically irresponsible but is Classic Congress (I), leftist playbook. Vast sections of the population in India dont understand the idea that "there is no free lunch". They think the Govt has unlimited money and can offer anything for free. 90% of the people dont understand or care about long term cause/effect, economic, social consequences. Heck even in the U.S. the Dems have trained 50%+ of the people on the "freebie" culture.

3. The BJP strong base is the Lingayat community. The BJP has failed to cultivate strong leadership amongst Vokkaligas (old mysore) or Kuruba (shepherd) community that Siddaramaiah belongs to. I believe they are the 3rd largest. Relying solely on one community to carry the day in a state wide election when the JD (S) and Congress (I) seem to have colluded by not putting up strong candidates of theirs in select constituencies to guarantee a Congress (I) win is fool hardy. Despite that the BJP's vote share was intact and the Congress (I) won due to the muslim vote consolidating from JD (S) in its favor. This despite the fact that the JD(S) state president was C.M. Ibrahim one time crook and a former civil aviation minister when Deve Gowda was PM.

4. The BJP tried some last minute unnecessary stunts like canceling the 4% reservation for muslims. This was uncalled for and made the muslim vote consolidation even worse. While Modi's ideology of "sab ka saath, sab ka vikas" is laudable a lot of the BJP state politicians pull off bush league moves like these and invite the scorn they deserve from the "secularist, BIF india forces" and hand them a stick to beat the BJP with. Focus on equality, all round development with a responsible economic policy and some degree of social support for the economically weak. Dont trigger needless controversies with symbolic moves and utterances that polarizes society. There are enough BIF amongst the leftist, secular, assorted multi-national NGOs, Soros backed entities to create mayhem, why create divisions and alienate even the decent % of minorities that are well truly Indian/patriotic ? Minimize verbal diarrhea. Not rocket science. Modi is a master at this. He rarely makes controversial statements. He focuses on ruthless execution of a national development agenda with the old L.K. Advani mantra "justice for all, appeasement of none". That is what every BJP leader of any stature needs to emulate.
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The issue was people were expecting a leadership change atleast a year before. The problem with BJP is the slow pace of change. When things are not working, they don't change leaders immediately. People expect and want the change. Even today, after losing election its business as usual. Literally the message from people to central leadership is we are fed up with the local leaders and we want change. If good leaders are given, with regular change whenever things dont work or leadership is weak and corrupt, BJP can keep ruling.
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So in KAR, from June 1st...free bus travel facilities to all women (not sure how it works if one is travelling from Kar to another state...perhaps its free for women travellers in KSRTC bus)...financially it will cost Govt. around 3,000 cr/year if I'm correct...will be interesting to see how they'll manage the finances. DK Shivkumar has assumed charges of Bangalore/BBMP...his first directive is to BBMP to make sure that there are no water logging issues during monsoons like there were in previous years...last evening we had quite a bit of cloud burst and several main roads where metro construction is also going on were inundated with BLR traffic police folks doing job that stupid BBMP folks were supposed to do. Let's see how things pan out...

I feel like there will be severe media management and not so over corruption along with pressure to do some deliveries on Karnataka Govt. till 2024 elections...some positive deliverance will make for excellent PR and combine those with copious amount of money + advise + media management from BIF folks to show INC/RaGa in a positive light.
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In Rajasthan, Gehlot announced 500 Rs. Gas cylinder. Free Electricity.
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These freebies can become sustainable provided the states in question undergo rapid industrialization. Along with rapid generation of productive employment. But doing that will hand a win to Mudi.

So that will never be done.

If Mudi wins 24 general election in a way that he can preserve the current GST structure. Such schemes will completely doom the states within the next 18 to 24 months. Resulting in a complete roll back of the scheme.

By next year expect a full scale assault on GST structure.
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Guarantees: Karnataka govt buys time for fiscally-prudent model
Deccan Herald is a pro-INC news paper, but even they seem to have realised that the freebies are going to finish off KA economy. Hence the sugar coating reports, perhaps to reduce the blow. Siddu & Co would most likely introduce many conditions on these freebies so much so that only peacefools may finally get benefit out of it. On the Hijab issue, since the case is pending in court and the current SC verdict clearly saying "hijab is not an essential religious practise", the INC folks may try to skip it for some time. In that case, the petitioners are college managements and not KA government. The college managements can pursue the case, even if KA Govt asks their advocates to pull back. "Banning RSS or Bajrang Dal" is just empty rhetoric. States don't have powers to ban any organisation. But there could be systematic hits on members of these organisations using the state police machinery.
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https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/madhya- ... ts-4100348
The Congress's pre-assembly election calendar in Madhya Pradesh currently has more religious functions than political rallies -- a situation that is drawing BJP jibes. The party is planning readings from Ramayana, Bhagwad Gita and Shiv Purana in all 52 districts and 230 assembly constituencies of the state over the coming months.
In state capital Bhopal, former law minister PC Sharma is conducting the Shrimad Bhagwat Saptah Gyan Yagya, which was flagged off on Monday.

"Similar events will be organised in other parts of the state in the coming days," said Mr Sharma, who is often seen distributing the water of Ganga among the Hindu families in his constituency.
"Our aim is not to beat anyone. Neither I am asking for votes. We believe in the ideology of Mahatma Gandhi. We believe in religion but we don't believe in show off, so my job is religious awakening... the rest depends on God," she told NDTV in an exclusive interview.

Ahead of the 2018 elections, the Congress had turned to the controversial 'Computer Baba' in the last leg. Before the 2019 Lok Sabha elections, Mirchi Baba performed a havan in Bhopal using over one quintal red chillies for the electoral victory of Digvijaya Singh. During Bharat Jodo Yatra, Rahul Gandhi went from Mahakal to Omkareshwar, and performed the Narmada Aarti.

Asked about the role of religious functions in the party's victory in 2018, KK Mishra, who heads the state party's media cell, acknowledged it has a role. "There are multiple reasons for our victory in 2018. One of the reasons was our approach and announcements about religion," he said.

Asked about the BJP allegations, PC Sharma said, "The BJP separate Lord Rama from Sitaji, we say Jai Siyaram, they say Jai Shriram... they do politics of religion, we do politics by following religion, be it Lord Krishna, Lord Rama. They are gods of justice... What has happened in Himachal, Karnataka -- God will do the same justice in Madhya Pradesh".
Gandhiism, the state religion of current-day India has the potential to be ramped up from its current state to be runaway buddhism 2.0, all secularism, politics of love, majority has to accommodate mindset are the initial shoots, if the nation or some parts of its population at least has to be led down the path of maya, then a "new" religion is the only vehicle, this time also neatly co-opting the foundation "myth" of independent India, and has history has shown, the end result is always the loss of indic territories, if co-opted it would sap the vigor of the parent religion
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PM attacks Freebie game:




I think that if a foreign-sponsored regime-change strategy is deployed against India, then it will be done through the Freebie strategy.
India's politics is too chaotic and unpredictable to rely on more subtle means, so a crude brute-force Vote Buying game would be used.
Kejriwal's game in Delhi was the template for this, and this is what would be deployed nation-wide.
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Ricky, Interesting that the report mentioned mirchi havan. Would like to know more.
There is a yagna to Pratyingara Devi that uses such spices.
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came across this newly introduced show, "kissa kursi ka" by india tv, proactive, on the ground local discussion on 23 and 24 elections between 3 senior journalists moderated by a stable anchor.. it is not reactive in that it does not discuss to the death daily national news issues as popular on all channels during the primetime slot

discussion on mp23


discussion on rj23
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ramana wrote:Ricky, Interesting that the report mentioned mirchi havan. Would like to know more.
There is a yagna to Pratyingara Devi that uses such spices.
Ramana sir, my knowledge on this topic is limited to what bing shows up, so i can say that the person who performed the mirchi havan for digvijay was arrested on charges of rape

https://www.opindia.com/2022/08/mp-mirc ... es-bhopal/
Mahamandaleshwar Niranjani Akhada and Spiritual Guru Vairagyanand Giri Maharaj, a self-styled seer popularly known as Mirchi Baba, was arrested on Tuesday from Madhya Pradesh’s Gwalior on rape charges.
and that devendra fadanvis had this havan performed when he took oath in 2019
sadly, that is the extent of my knowledge on this matter...on a personal note, my mother sometimes does "mirchi se auicchhana" to ward off evil humours, basically roasting some red chilies and moving over the targeted person's body, with a distance of couple of inches, 4-5 times, the chilies are then left in an isolated area to smolder while everyone else is prohibited to visit that place for about half an hour by which time the "vapours" or the smell completely dissipates; i suppose this is common in other communities as well, just added as this is the only ritual associated with mirchis that i am aware of presently
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