Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023

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Going by the election rhetoric, AAP and INC are pandering to the pro-khalistani scum in Punjab -- Punjab will have New-delhi-under-kejriwal quality of life if they elect these AAP scum, and it would be well deserved.
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Samajwadi Party loosing 2% Voter share in UP after new joinings from BJP: C-Voter survey (difference between today and Jan 6th %)
any comments? is this possible?
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As elections are coming closer. People are really evaluating the what a return of SP will mean.

Once this is completed then it becomes clear that Yogi is the only one.

If bahubali from western Bihar are reluctant to enter eastern UP, because they fear encounters. Then you can imagine what kind of improvement law and order has actually seen.
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vijayk saar, question to ask is: what is the provenance of those polls and the results? If the poll was not done according to statistical principles such as choosing the polling sample size etc., then these polls are likely to be unrepresentative of reality, and hence ignorable. At least in print media, some magazine provide the margin of error and the company that did the polling. TV Channels seem to decide what the polling outcome should be based the ideology of their viewership, some sort of confirmation bias of the viewers that helps their ratings.
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vijayk wrote:....
any comments? is this possible?
Let the tickets distribution end, dust will settle down and real election will begin.

-Ankit
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Until exit polls comes these opinion polls are nothing more than random numbers pulled out of thin air. Remember, every opinion poll in every assembly election has BJP leading by a significant margin (including in WB) only for it to reverse during exit polls. They did this in MP, RJ, HR, KAR, MH, WB and few other states and i don't think it is just poor psephology but a deliberate ploy to put BJP and its workers in a complacent state. Then there 95% idealists and 5% imaginary psephologist like our beloved Dr BB who calls a BJP wave every election without fail, ofcourse its a different story that he dismantled his team way back in 2015 but continues to throw numbers on twitter.
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srikandan wrote:Punjab will have New-delhi-under-kejriwal quality of life if they elect these AAP scum, and it would be well deserved.
Unfortunately not good for India as a whole. As it is Mr. Kejriwal becoming CM of Delhi had negative consequences on UP during the initial stages of the Covid19 crisis in India. All of us have seen the incompetence of CM Kejriwal and his govt. in the form of migrant workers crowding the collection points to go back to their native places.
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vijayk wrote:https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/o ... gn=ht_site
Chandigarh The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), former CM Captain Amarinder Singh’s Punjab Lok Congress (PLC) and Sukhdev Singh Dhindsa’s Shiromani Akali Dal (Sanyukt) on Wednesday reached an agreement on the allocation of 65 seats to contest among themselves in Punjab assembly polls. The decision was arrived at in a co-ordination committee meeting of the three parties held in Chandigarh on Wednesday. The assembly has 117 seats.


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What about the rest of the 117 seats? Is that later?
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srikandan wrote:Going by the election rhetoric, AAP and INC are pandering to the pro-khalistani scum in Punjab -- Punjab will have New-delhi-under-kejriwal quality of life if they elect these AAP scum, and it would be well deserved.
Punjab politics is fractured hence all those vulture parties.
No India deserves kejriwal.
It is blaming the victim to say Punjab deserves him!
Let's hope they vote for their own self-interest.
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Punjab is facing the same social engineering program that TN has been - in both states, its a multi-decadal project, whose academic roots go back a century or more.

Creating bheda between religions & cultures, first explored by Indologists and leveraged by political parties. A small, vocal group sets the agenda and by media-amplification, speaks for the entire community, gives everyone talking-points, decides what topics to talk about and the framework to think about them. 90% of people are knowledge consumers and are unable to go beyond what they are bombarded with. This sets their mindset and consequently the way they vote.

So, while it is convenient (& to some extent justified) to blame the respective populace (for being sheep), in order to solve the problem, the counter narrative must first take care of the 1% knowledge producers (academia) and the 9% distributors (media)
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Slogan of BJP in UP seems to be

Na Ali
Na Bahunali
Keeval Bhajrangbali.
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Should be 'Na Bahubali'.

There are a lot of memes running around on SM.

SaPa is said to be promising a ton of freebies to Peacefuls.

This election too will be mostly run on caste and H/M polarization. That trumps everything else it seems. One can hope that the good work done in the past five years, particularly the improved safety of the women should be a reminder to people what the alternative to Yogi would mean. That message needs to be driven home every time. The inability to hold rallies will have an impact, though small. Modi is a huge draw everywhere in UP.

Just as the Peacefuls are constantly filled with the fear of a Hindu uprising, the Hindus only need to be reminded of Kiraina and Muzaffarnagar.
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Republic TV projections for 5 states headed for elections

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I will keep my fingers crossed

VADRA CONGRESS :rotfl: the less said the better
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Anand Ranganathan
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Punjab is brewing up nicely. In Bhagwant Mann, Kejriwal has made a neat choice. Mann is older bud wiser; definitely worth a shot. He may not tickle your grey cells but he certainly flaunts a six-pack. Plus he's got the bottle for a fight. Looking forward to some spirited debates.
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I congratulate Sardar Bhagwant Mann on being declared CM face of AAP in Punjab. Whole Punjab is looking upto AAP as a hope. Its a huge responsibility and I am sure Bhagwant will bring back smile on the face of every Punjabi.
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IndraD wrote:https://twitter.com/ndtv/status/1481155 ... 22158?s=20 "We have prepared a 10-point '#Punjab Model' to make the state developed and prosperous if #AAP comes to power. We will make such a prosperous Punjab that the youth who went to #Canada for employment will return in the next 5 years": AAP chief #ArvindKejriwal

how come this guy gets free pass from press & his dedicated voters alike? He hasn't made a single big hospital or bridge/flyover in Delhi. No scrutiny! Why BJP can't get away with lies like him.
IndraD ji,
AAP is a party that is run exclusively in the media terrain. In 2013 when it came with the show of Anna hazare, we had a lot of educated people jumping into fray (some were shown as educationists, media guys, businessmen, common man) it was always projected as a party of people who were educated and knew what is good unlike the casteist regional parties, corrupt congress or the saffron/communal BJP. Even now that is their calling card among many people who are disillusioned with caste not delivering them the quality of life, educated people who paint all political parties as a party of crooks with a broad brush.

It also helps that AAP spends a lot of money in advertising paying media houses. in Delhi and greater NCR region you have a lot of companies and industries and after the GST implementation, the money to Delhi govt has grown by about 8500 crores annually or so it was said. some of that money goes for freebies and very little is needed in media management. they also don't have too many farmers. so freebies are only a few in terms of electricity and water to give.

opindia had this report on RTI during the second wave.
https://www.opindia.com/2021/04/arvind- ... cond-wave/

it is said that 150 crores were spent on media ads during the first 3 months of 2021 and about 800 crores in the past two years. that is a lot of money for presstitutes. also there are people like that Khaitan and Ashutosh who were given tickets initially and later dumped. these guys still probably get paid in some form or other and their contacts are still helping AAP whether its to stop BJP or they truly think AAP as panacea for all the probelms.

journalists that questioned AAP during second wave for the lack of oxygen cylinders in Delhi (and messiah Sonu Sood was missing in action here to note), they were managed by the media houses to not raise voices and the ones who did in private whatsapp group affiliated with the AAP govt were removed by Manish Sisodia from getting any info from the govt as a form of punishement (the previous statements are only what i have heard in nationalistic youtube channels and i don't have any proof of the same). This is also one of the reasons where you don't hear much about odd even scheme that was introduced with a lot of fanfare and the media folks in two weeks declared it unprecedented success and fast forward a few months Delhi air quality is still the worst come end of the year. All of their policies are more or less the same thing. Arvind kejriwal didn't have the guts to call out the stubble burning as he was harboring hopes of election in punjab. Now that central govt has started some initiative of trying to use decomposer to get rid of stubble burning expect that lavanasur to take credit like that akaless taking credit for all centre and state govt schemes as his.

The educated middle class where everyone thinks they know more than the fellow next to them, get their info from the news channels and tend to believe everything until something untoward happens to them and then they are also enlightened to the sickular folks and news channels.
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srikandan wrote:Going by the election rhetoric, AAP and INC are pandering to the pro-khalistani scum in Punjab -- Punjab will have New-delhi-under-kejriwal quality of life if they elect these AAP scum, and it would be well deserved.
Srikandan Ji,
Somehow i think (or actually hope) that in the unlikely event of AAP victory (whether by themselves or with congress support) in Punjab, they will not be allowed to get away from their failures and questions will be raised as there will be more points of failures so to speak.

Delhi has surplus of revenues based on their needs and AAp can bankrupt the Delhi finances to win an election (whether free water or electricity or paying mullahs and maulana monthly salary so they can ask their followers in masjid to vote for AAP).

but Punjab is already reeling with deficit and his option of 1000 for every woman will definitely bankrupt the state if the preliminary numbers of Anand Ranganathan are to be believed. The people of Punjab will not let it slide and then congress and AAP can jostle on who was the worst. but this is what will happen most probably (pay off the media to write something good and let popel suffer while letting khalistani elements run amok). so better to keep Congress and AAP out in Punjab.
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Delhi Police's salary cost is borne by the Central government as the police comes under the Ministry of home affairs. I don't know what else is charged to Central Government. Is it any surprise that Delhi government is running revenue surplus?
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venkat_kv: but Punjab is already reeling with deficit and his option of 1000 for every woman will definitely bankrupt the state if the preliminary numbers of Anand Ranganathan are to be believed. The people of Punjab will not let it slide and then congress and AAP can jostle on who was the worst.
venkat_kv saar, you certainly have more confidence in the thinking skills of pol.parties/leaders of PJ than I do. The nuisance crowd from Punjab's "farmer's rally" and the leaders of the state sucking up to the Pakistani military (Navjot Sidhu and co) , are all accepted by the public in Punjab without a murmur. These acts of deception are very much in the open but clearly makes no difference to the narrative in Punjab.

Reading the papers, the dominant narrative in that state is that BJP is to blame for all the anti-sikh acts of the INC, and this canard is being spread by the so-called leaders of the community in Punjab. Never mind the reality that Indira Gandhi and ZailSingh (as PM and President) released a murderer under trial in prison, bypassing all the institutions of the government, just so Indira Gandhi could abuse power to foist this terrorist on the public as a political figure. This was done just to neuter the local INC political opponents in Punjab.

If the average punjabi citizen can swallow the above big lie with ease (a lie that dishonours and desecrates the memory of their own ancestors), maybe it is not too much of a stretch for a group of AAP scammers to con this group of people by promising freebies and never delivering on them -- a strategy that has worked well for AAP/Kejriwal in New Delhi so far.
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srikandan wrote:
venkat_kv: but Punjab is already reeling with deficit and his option of 1000 for every woman will definitely bankrupt the state if the preliminary numbers of Anand Ranganathan are to be believed. The people of Punjab will not let it slide and then congress and AAP can jostle on who was the worst.
venkat_kv saar, you certainly have more confidence in the thinking skills of pol.parties/leaders of PJ than I do. The nuisance crowd from Punjab's "farmer's rally" and the leaders of the state sucking up to the Pakistani military (Navjot Sidhu and co) , are all accepted by the public in Punjab without a murmur. These acts of deception are very much in the open but clearly makes no difference to the narrative in Punjab.

Reading the papers, the dominant narrative in that state is that BJP is to blame for all the anti-sikh acts of the INC, and this canard is being spread by the so-called leaders of the community in Punjab. Never mind the reality that Indira Gandhi and ZailSingh (as PM and President) released a murderer under trial in prison, bypassing all the institutions of the government, just so Indira Gandhi could abuse power to foist this terrorist on the public as a political figure. This was done just to neuter the local INC political opponents in Punjab.

If the average punjabi citizen can swallow the above big lie with ease (a lie that dishonours and desecrates the memory of their own ancestors), maybe it is not too much of a stretch for a group of AAP scammers to con this group of people by promising freebies and never delivering on them -- a strategy that has worked well for AAP/Kejriwal in New Delhi so far.
this is the story in most states and is driven with gusto where the local BJP is not having good leaders/grassroot workers or is not a strong political force. In fact in the newly formed state of Andhra pradesh CBN and his media cronies ran the same lies over and over again. but that didn't prevent his drubbing in the 2019 elections as YSRCP also had their own media channel and they ran news relentlessly on TDP and turn the tables over with split TDP, BJP and Janasena votes.

You can only blame an entity/party to an extent. the AAP party still has to do a few things to get people in their corner and they don't have the same leeway financially that is accorded by Delhi govt finances to give freebies. it is going to put a lot of strain on Punjab's resources and people quickly turn on the messiah because of the expectations and bad work gets punished very quickly. (Rajasthan, MP and Karnataka Lok Sabha elections come to mind where Congress had taken power with various freebies in local elections along with opportunistic alliances but failed spectacularly in delivering them giving BJP a good majority.

the people of Punjab may not vote for BJP with full majority as they identify it as a Hindu and themselves as Sikh and no presence of BJP leaders on the ground to solve their issues, but at some point when their issues are really dire they will still have to turn to BJP that actually is delivering things on the ground to the targeted people in other states.

lets hope people of Punjab also see what is important to their state rather than a few loud mouth communist/anarchists shouting to drown away sane voices.
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Aparna Yadav, daughter-in-law of Mulayam Singh Yadav from his second wife's son Prateek Yadav joins BJP. While the media is making a big deal out of it, Aparna Yadav is a political lightweight but BJP must be careful not to repeat the same mistake they did while admitting everyone from TMC just before the WB polls. I still believe that it was Prashant Kishore who orchestrated Mukul Roy's joining BJP, scuttling the BJP boat from within and then jumping back to the TMC ship. I wouldn't put it past him to try the same tactics elsewhere.
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In 2017, drugs abuse/alcohol were the main issues for Punjab elections. It's nowhere discussed, and this narrative or propaganda is hard to understand. Bollywood also played their part back in 2017 with their drug related movies, shows.

And now will get a drunk CM for Punjab....
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BJP has refused to ally with nitishwa's JDU in UP for the coming elections and the JDU has decided to go it alone.

The nitishwa story may be ending far sooner than most people anticipated.

nitishwa's asli aukat has been shown.


https://www.republicworld.com/elections ... eshow.html
Janata Dal (United) National Spokesperson KC Tyagi on Sunday confirmed that the party will not be siding with the Bharatiya Janata Party in the upcoming Uttar Pradesh elections. Speaking to Republic, the JDU leader said that the party’s top brass met and decided to contest the elections alone. He stated that the BJP said that they didn’t want the alliance in the upcoming polls.

Confirming that the JDU will be contesting the Assembly polls alone, KC Tyagi said that the party is confident about the move. He also added that there were no tremors with BJP over the decision. “We are the oldest and most trusted ally of the BJP since the inception of NDA. Last elections also, we contested together. But the day before yesterday we were told that the BJP will only hold an alliance with Apna Dal and Nishad party. Therefore, we decided to go alone.”

The JDU spokesperson added that “the party led by Nitish Kumar went to meet the top brass. We still are trusted allies. However, we will contest the polls alone with our candidates.” Further explaining the situation, he told Republic that, “political alliance needs confirmation from both the sides. BJP doesn’t want an alliance with us in UP.” He also stated that the issues of the farmer’s protest and others remain a factor for the decision. The party spokesperson reiterated that the BJP was interested in holding an alliance only with Apna Dal and Nishad party, which in turn forced the JDU to contest alone.
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JDU hawa is a light breeze in UP. Hence not allied.
They also wanted more than they can win.
All those seats would go to SP.
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MSM does not have any news. So they are making up as they go. Next there will be news how JDU ( of some other one) is not going to tie up with BJP in Goa. :D
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https://www.republicworld.com/elections ... eshow.html
Congress Attacks 'Ladki Hun..' Face Priyanka Maurya For Joining BJP; 'Not The Only Woman'
After Congress' 'Ladki hun..' campaign poster girl Priyanka Maurya jumped ship to the BJP, the Congress reacted by saying that she is "not the last woman."
'Used my face to attract OBC, but denied ticket': Priyanka Maurya
Speaking exclusively to Republic TV earlier, Maurya had said, "I fought for the slogan of Congress 'Lakdi Hun Lad Sakti Hun'. The party used my social media following, my caste support to increase their voter base. I was asked to bring girls for marathons, people in addresses and meetings, induct workers to Congress. I was made to do all the tasks but the ticket was given to someone else." She had added, "Tickets were predecided in UP. They had already decided to give the ticket not to me, but to someone who would pay a bribe to them. That's my only complaint, why was I misled?
https://www.republicworld.com/elections ... eshow.html
Congress' 'Ladki Hun Lad Sakti Hun' Poster Girl Makes Shocking 'bribe' Claims On Party
The development comes as Uttar Pradesh prepares for the Assembly election to be held in 7 phases- Feb 10, Feb 14, Feb 20, Feb 23, Feb 27, March 3 & March 7.
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Why would someone pay a bribe to get a Congress ticket in UP? Then spend even more in fighting the election....only to lose his deposit?
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nishant.gupta wrote:Why would someone pay a bribe to get a Congress ticket in UP? Then spend even more in fighting the election....only to lose his deposit?
black money - easy come easy go.
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You will be amazed on knowing that many people believe that they can get lucky and are willing to spend money. Every seat see at least 10-12 people with few from major parties and many independent. Selling tickets is major source of income for many parties.
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Bunty and Babli has disappeared from the UP scene. Babli has built some momentum initially but lately she seems to be missing from action. Is congress giving SP an upperhand to take on BJP without openly doing a Mahagathbandhan....
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The "momentum" is only media hype and nothing else. At present it looks like INC and others want to shift all their votes to SP just like they did with pAAPias in Delhi.

After some reports even the hype of SP is slowly dying down. Reality of possible return to goodaraj under SP seems to have hit the mongo public of UP.
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nishant.gupta wrote:Why would someone pay a bribe to get a Congress ticket in UP? Then spend even more in fighting the election....only to lose his deposit?
Bribe or no bribe, why would anyone want to file Cong(I) nomination papers in a UP election? All the opinion polls show the Cong(I) in single digits :P
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CalvinH wrote:Bunty and Babli has disappeared from the UP scene. Babli has built some momentum initially but lately she seems to be missing from action. Is congress giving SP an upperhand to take on BJP without openly doing a Mahagathbandhan....
bunty and babli seem to have realized the margin of their impending loss as also the fact that they have no allies, except those crops that are keen to eat the congi fence

they are maybe hoping that less visibility leads to lesser association with failure. At this time, both are looking at a massive pasting at the hustings in UP and, come what may, sidhu is there to gum up the works in punjab.

even the commies seem to have quietened down because the congis have no cash to dish out for the ever greedy comrades

they can't even bring their money out without the ED knocking their stuffing out six ways from Sunday

the past is catching up with pappu and pappi ...जैसी करनी वैसी भरनी, no.........

but the BIF still seem to have a masterplan for them
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chetak wrote:
CalvinH wrote:Bunty and Babli has disappeared from the UP scene. Babli has built some momentum initially but lately she seems to be missing from action. Is congress giving SP an upperhand to take on BJP without openly doing a Mahagathbandhan....
bunty and babli seem to have realized the margin of their impending loss as also the fact that they have no allies, except those crops that are keen to eat the congi fence

they are maybe hoping that less visibility leads to lesser association with failure. At this time, both are looking at a massive pasting at the hustings in UP and, come what may, sidhu is there to gum up the works in punjab.

even the commies seem to have quietened down because the congis have no cash to dish out for the ever greedy comrades

they can't even bring their money out without the ED knocking their stuffing out six ways from Sunday

the past is catching up with pappu and pappi ...जैसी करनी वैसी भरनी, no.........

but the BIF still seem to have a masterplan for them
BIF goal is to use whoever is available to undermine BJP. They have a goal

Image

PM Modi again tops list of 'most popular' world leaders with 71% approval rating, finds US survey
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiat ... 2022-01-21
PM Modi has beaten notable political personalities like US President Joe Biden, UK PM Boris Johnson and many more.

Global Leader Approval:

★ Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi: 71%



Does this help BJP in UP?
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nishant.gupta wrote:Why would someone pay a bribe to get a Congress ticket in UP? Then spend even more in fighting the election....only to lose his deposit?

There is a Kerala saying.
Paraphrasing and hoping Dilbu will get an exact quotation.

"The agraharam owner can always ask the Maharaja for an elephant!"
The implication is if the raja is foolish he may give it!
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Re: Assembly Elections - 2022

Post by nishant.gupta »

Guess Babli is trying to do a ghar wapsi.

Or maybe not enough ppl interested in buying the Congi tickets any more...

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 047991.cms
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Re: Assembly Elections - 2022

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What are the political credentials of Utpal Parikkar S/o Manohar Parikkar? Was he an active worker for the BJP or RSS? Or is it the usual sense of entitlement which is playing here?
Son of Manohar Parrikar quits BJP, to contest as Independent from Panaji
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Re: Assembly Elections - 2022

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Sachin wrote:What are the political credentials of Utpal Parikkar S/o Manohar Parikkar? Was he an active worker for the BJP or RSS? Or is it the usual sense of entitlement which is playing here?
Son of Manohar Parrikar quits BJP, to contest as Independent from Panaji
Sense of entitlement.
He runs the family engineering firm and only expressed an interest in politics on the death of his father.
The concern the BJP has is that a loss in Panaji, the capital, will be a viewed as a big setback.
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