Terroristan - March 31, 2022

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Thinking a bit further on the core nature of Bakistan, I recall ramana garu’s formulation of Bakistan as a “kabila state.” Meaning that the entire country, not just the army, is imagined and built around the concept of organized brigandage: criminals take advantage of their position or temporary concentration of power to rob others of the fruit of their productive and innovative labor. This is the sole value proposition of Bakistan and the army is just the tip of the spear used in the robbery.

Refer to the famous Jinnah interview with the Life (?) magazine lady correspondent soon after Bakistan was forned.

The role of the RAPE class is to set up a deceptive camouflage of softness and / or to wheedle and aggressively beg the targets to hand over their hard-earned wealth.

From top to bottom, Bakistan is a 2-d Potemkin village of concealment for brigands to do their job. Nothing else.

It’s nice to have a wishful TODO list of changes TSP should make, but those changes will never see reality. Because to make changes, there must be motivation, and motivation comes from core values. The core values must include succeeding through hard work and innovation.

Which section—you can slice horizontally or vertically—of Bakistan has that core value?
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Soosai IED mubarak suspected to be sponsored by TTP.
One dead, two injured in Mardan police station bomb attack
The attack, which killed the station in-charge Maqsood Chawoki, took place at the Chamtar police station on Nisata road at 11:20 am.

Upon receiving reports, Rescue 1122 ambulances and medical teams were dispatched to the spot.

Locals in the area said that ambulances arrived at the site and rescue operations were completed, while the vicinity has been cordoned off.

Currently, search operations for those involved are underway in the city and it is being said that a suicide bomber had targetted the station.

The attack comes a day after Interior Minister Rana Sanaullah said that the military leadership has called for the formation of a committee to ensure “parliamentary supervision” of the ongoing dialogue with the proscribed Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).
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It is only logical that the IMF would not like to see the iron brother getting paid using its money.
IMF Intends To Ban Pakistan From Seeking More Loans From China For CPEC Projects: Report
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) is reportedly planning to forbid Pakistan from seeking additional loans from China. According to reports, the global financial body's recommendations are now likely to be a deciding factor in Islamabad's decision to ask China for Rs 7.9 billion for projects related to the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).

The IMF has criticised Pakistan's loans from China and the arbitrarily high payments given to Chinese Independent Power Producers (IPP), suggesting Islamabad renegotiate its energy contracts with Beijing, ANI reported, citing Financial Post.

According to the report, several Chinese IPPs operating in Pakistan are owed more than Rs 350 billion in power payments. Meanwhile, IMF's demand came after China denied changing the terms of the agreements for projects under the CPEC. Moreover, around 40% of Pakistan's federal budget's total spending, around Rs 3,950 billion has been devoted to debt service - an increase of 29.% from the last year. Pakistan's economy is facing a daunting task as the budget for FY 2022–23 does not address the crucial structural problems that are proving to be a barrier to the resurgence of the country.
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There is a story which made it to Tribune dot com dot pk.."Little-mit-pakistan"
In 2013,a group set out to build a little "MIT for Pakistan." It had all the ingredients of becoming the equivalent of IIT in India.
.. And here is what it looks today, the site marked for its campus has been turned into a Bakra Mandi.
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The above story could be apocryphal. There IS a university called ITU in Lahore started by the same guy who wrote that article in Tribune.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gv45qb ... rifAajakia
Ahmediya, who are they? Why I have no sympathy for them? Many stories from Pakistan
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This could get interesting.
Army can’t engage in business ventures, IHC rules
ISLAMABAD: The Islamabad High Court has held that Pakistan Army neither had the power or the jurisdiction to directly or indirectly engage in business ventures of any nature outside its composition nor to claim the ownership of state land, ruling that any such activity was subject to explicit permission by the federal government.

In a detailed judgement issued on Wednesday in a case pertaining to encroachments in the Margalla Hills National Park, the IHC outlined the functions of one of the vital state organs as stipulated in the constitutional provisions.

In the 108-page detailed judgement, IHC Chief Justice Athar Minallah noted that the Pakistan Army Act, 1952, the Air Force Act, 1953 and the Pakistan Navy Ordinance, 1961, were promulgated to regulate the respective branches of the armed forces and their discipline.
The verdict emphasised that the Constitution expressly described two functions of the armed forces – the primary of them being the duty to defend the country against external aggression or threat of war but that too ought to be undertaken under the direction of the federal government.

The direction of the federal government was a precondition, it explained and pointed out that the other function was to act in aid of the civil power when called upon to do so.

Since the command and control of the armed forces vests in the federal government, therefore, the verdict said no branch can undertake any activity or perform functions outside their respective establishments unless expressly directed or called upon to do so.
The judgement further criticised state institutions for their “willful and brazen disregard and abuse of the enforced laws”.

The court also rejected the ownership claim of the Pakistan Army Directorate on 8,068 acres of land in the National Park.
The ruling said the lease agreement of the Farms Directorate of the Pakistan Army with Monal Restaurant was also declared illegal. The report of the Islamabad Environmental Commission was also included in the 108-page detailed decision.
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Twitter buzzing with reports of rioting between pashtuns and sindhis in Karachi over some pakistaniyat. AK phyrr..

Then again it's just another Fridin in jihadistan
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Manish_P wrote:Twitter buzzing with reports of rioting between pashtuns and sindhis in Karachi over some pakistaniyat. AK phyrr..

Then again it's just another Fridin in jihadistan
There is atleast one video of a Sindhi guy forcing a Pushtun Hotel Owner to close his hotel that has been doing rounds for the past few hours atleast. Might be the trigger, IMO. Here's the video -
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kancha wrote:
Manish_P wrote:Twitter buzzing with reports of rioting between pashtuns and sindhis in Karachi over some pakistaniyat. AK phyrr..

Then again it's just another Fridin in jihadistan
There is atleast one video of a Sindhi guy forcing a Pushtun Hotel Owner to close his hotel that has been doing rounds for the past few hours atleast. Might be the trigger, IMO. Here's the video -
Link
That seems to be the aftermath.

Original incident was a Sindhi 'gangster' went to a pashtun eatery and refused to pay the bill. A fight ensued and the pashtuns killed the Sindhi. Later his gang attacked the restaurant... And then it blew up into a series of riots...
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g.sarkar wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gv45qb ... rifAajakia
Ahmediya, who are they? Why I have no sympathy for them? Many stories from Pakistan
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https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/97387 ... -sri-lanka
Pak vs SL: Babar Azam dismisses security concerns in Sri Lanka
"BC, we are the security concern", Babar Azam was quoted as saying.
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ArjunPandit wrote:
g.sarkar wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gv45qb ... rifAajakia
Ahmediya, who are they? Why I have no sympathy for them? Many stories from Pakistan
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Try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gv45qb ... rifAajakia
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1699841/nine- ... ducted-man
Nine terrorists killed, soldier martyred in Balochistan in search for abducted man
Saleem Shahid, July 16, 2022

QUETTA: Nine terrorists were killed and a havildar was martyred during an operation against the killers of Lt Col Laiq Baig Mirza, an army officer who was kidnapped earlier this week while travelling to Quetta from Ziarat, the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said in a statement on Friday.
However, Lt Col Mirza’s cousin, Umer Javed, who was kidnapped alongside him en route to Quetta, has yet to be recovered.
Security forces swooped down on a “hideout of terrorists” in the mountains near Ziarat after Thursday midnight, ISPR said.
Once the terrorists realised they had been encircled, according to the statement, they opened fire at the advancing contingent, resulting in the martyrdom of Havildar Khan Muhammad.
The security forces later undertook a “clearance operation” and managed to eliminate five fighters belonging to the proscribed Baloch Liberation Army (BLA) after a heavy exchange of fire.
The security forces then spotted another group of terrorists near Ziarat Nullah and killed four of them, the statement added. The rest escaped under cover of heavy rain and darkness.
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Dimran's PTI have won in the byelections in Punjab, in the heart of PMLN territory. This has some interesting implications as it makes the PMLN weaker and Dimran stronger, along with creating a headache for the Army. Could it cause PMLN to walk back from the terms of the IMF deal? Could it cause the Army to start backing Dimran again? In any case it is a good thing as Dimran is much more useful to us if he is close to the corridors of power than if he disappeared into oblivion.
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Bart S wrote:Dimran's PTI have won in the byelections in Punjab, in the heart of PMLN territory. This has some interesting implications as it makes the PMLN weaker and Dimran stronger, along with creating a headache for the Army. Could it cause PMLN to walk back from the terms of the IMF deal? Could it cause the Army to start backing Dimran again? In any case it is a good thing as Dimran is much more useful to us if he is close to the corridors of power than if he disappeared into oblivion.
So Bajwa can't rig a f*ing by election in army's backyard? Shame.
Bajwa hatao, army bachao.
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Pakistan polio eradication campaign in disarray, country reports 12 new cases this year
Pakistan has reported its 12th polio case this year, all in the tribal district of North Waziristan bordering Afghanistan, in a fresh blow to the country’s efforts to eradicate the crippling disease, which can cause severe paralysis in children.

Pakistan is one of the two polio-endemic countries in the world along with its neighbour Afghanistan.
All the 12 cases this year have been reported from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’s (KP) North Waziristan district, with nine of them detected from Mir Ali alone, the Dawn newspaper reported.
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partha wrote:
Bart S wrote:Dimran's PTI have won in the byelections in Punjab, in the heart of PMLN territory. This has some interesting implications as it makes the PMLN weaker and Dimran stronger, along with creating a headache for the Army. Could it cause PMLN to walk back from the terms of the IMF deal? Could it cause the Army to start backing Dimran again? In any case it is a good thing as Dimran is much more useful to us if he is close to the corridors of power than if he disappeared into oblivion.
So Bajwa can't rig a f*ing by election in army's backyard? Shame.
Bajwa hatao, army bachao.
All in all, this is a great news for India as it opens up new fissures in Paki state, society and relations with the outside world.

Within PDM, PPP vs PMLN
Rejuvenated Dimran/PTI to take on PDM, Army and anybody who is not a youthiya
Fissures within establishment with pro-Dimran factions gaining more ground
Between Pakis and US with loudmouth Dimran again in the picture
Within PMLN as well, between Showbaaz and Ganja (as the latter did not want to take the risk of forming a govt and also was dead against doing the tough measures required by the IMF, whereas the former wanted to be PM and have his son by CM of Punjab so insisted on it).
Also, the loudmouth Dimran and his youthiya followers being rejuvenated means that PMLN and Zardari/Blowall/BerkinBabe will have a lot of pressure on them to not reach out to India (even in the sly treacherous way that they were trying to, while also abusing India in public) and this suits us fine as otherwise the whole WKK crowd in India were ready to crawl out of the woodwork and advocate India bailing them out.
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Kaptaan has hit the PKR for a four

And Paki scam exchange has also responded.....

Yawn - KSE-100 plummets by more than 700 points in intraday trading
The benchmark KSE-100 index plunged by more than 700 points during intraday trade on Monday, with analysts attributing the development to the political uncertainty arising out of the outcome of Punjab by-polls held a day ago and the rupee losing ground against the dollar.

Stocks plunged more than 600 points shortly after trading began and lost 713.19 points against the previous day’s close of 42,074.91 to reach 41,361.72 by 12:39pm.
Why not a halal 786 hain?
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Dilbu wrote:Pakistan polio eradication campaign in disarray, country reports 12 new cases this year
Pakistan has reported its 12th polio case this year, all in the tribal district of North Waziristan bordering Afghanistan, in a fresh blow to the country’s efforts to eradicate the crippling disease, which can cause severe paralysis in children....
Time to invite Bill-wa again and make a grab for his wallet

Last time did they give him a Hilal-e-something?
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Requesting the repayment of borrowed money and asking to live within means are 'cruelty'. The world should provide free money and refrain from asking it back according to this paki.
‘A cruel IMF programme’
This is apropos a Business Recorder op-ed “A cruel IMF programme” carried by the newspaper on Friday. That the writer, Omer Javed, is prolific and far-sighted economist a fact that has found its best expression from his profound argument that he has advanced to expose the cruelty of the IMF programme.

According to him, for example, “Was it Pakistan’s fault that a global supply shock and even before tightly managed and low-capacity oil sector had overall fed into causing a huge supply shock, increased prices of commodities to decades high levels, and that supply shock stands accentuated in the wake of war in Ukraine by Russia?|”{Ofcourse it is never the paki's fault. Rest of the world should apologise to TSP}
That Pakistan has become a perennial borrower is a fact. And this business of borrowing is not without challenges. {Challenges like having the intention to repay and maintaining the required financial discipline for that purpose etc. Definitely a huge challenge for pakis.} It is important to note that successive governments have pushed the country into recognising that it must accept a deal, however cruel and unjust, because it is the only one available to it. It is therefore needless to say that successive governments have literally reduced the country into a beggar and we all know that beggars can’t be choosers.{Got this one right}
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Let them eat uranium cake (yellow cake).
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Bart S wrote:Dimran's PTI have won in the byelections in Punjab, in the heart of PMLN territory. This has some interesting implications as it makes the PMLN weaker and Dimran stronger, along with creating a headache for the Army. Could it cause PMLN to walk back from the terms of the IMF deal? Could it cause the Army to start backing Dimran again? In any case it is a good thing as Dimran is much more useful to us if he is close to the corridors of power than if he disappeared into oblivion.
Came as a surprise but more power to Dimran...
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Knowing how the malsic behave when victorious how long before Imran tries to humiliate the Army and starts meddling his nose in its everyday affairs?

And how long before he over lives his welcome and is either lamp posted or sun roof levered?
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Kaptaan has hit a six!!

I welcome kaptaan back to the maidaan. Hopefully he gets rid of Umpire Bajwa, installs "Do not worry" Faiz, and builds a strong alliance with the Taliban to take on the west and Cheen that have humiliated Pakistan so far.

The current dispensation has to go, they have no self esteem -- going with a begging bowl to IMF and imposing hardship on everyday abduls!! Kaptaan should come back, kick the IMF out, bring back petrol subsidies, lower interest rates. I personally have been asking if Pakistanis have any H&D, agreeing to all IMF conditons!! Kaptaan would have torn up the agreement and threw it on their face!

He should also build a strong coalition with Turkey and Malaysia and kick out the moribund OIC dominated by Saudia and UAE. Pakistan needs a strong leader like Kaptaan. Look at how he handled the covid crisis!! All because he knew a lot about bats, and I heard the disease originated in bats. Even his party symbol is a bat.

Go Bajwa Go!!!
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What kind of incompetent army chief Bajwa is?!

Every Pakistani COAS has only 2 responsibilities

1) Conduct a decent coup
2) Get an extension

Bajwa is a zero in both!!
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The coup will happen.

This is my wet dream.

I hope India then apply "massive" sanctions quickly and ask all the democratic govts to apply sanctions! We will see how the world reacts. Media should shout its "massive" action and make it an outrageous move equal to Russian war on Ukraine.

So, india should have this action plan ready to go at shortest of notice.
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BBC reports after the by-elections.
Posting in full essay
Pakistan: Former PM Imran Khan stuns rivals with Punjab by-election upset
July 18, 2022
His PTI party won 15 of 20 seats up for grabs in Punjab, beating their arch-rivals the PML-N on their home ground.
Mr Khan was ousted as prime minister in a no-confidence vote in April.
The result in Punjab is a major blow for current Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, who leads the PML-N. His already weak coalition government's fate now hangs by a thread.
Pakistan is reeling from unprecedented inflation and energy shortages - now political instability could spiral out of control.
Punjab, Pakistan's most populous province, has long been a bastion of support for the PML-N of Mr Sharif, and his older brother, three-time former PM Nawaz Sharif.
But the party won just four of the seats in Sunday's by-elections, with one going to an independent candidate.

The by-elections were called after MPs from the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) were disqualified for switching allegiance in a vote to elect Mr Sharif's son Hamza as Punjab chief minister. His short term in office now looks set to end.
"Now it's within his grasp," Mr Almeida says. "They may try and limp on…but the government is now effectively at Imran's mercy."
The result in Punjab suggests voters there wanted to send a message to the country's leaders about the economic hardships they are facing.
Prices are soaring as the government tries to tackle a foreign debt crisis, inherited in large part from Imran Khan's administration before he was ousted.
"We could again hear those voices within the PML-N, pushing for an immediate election. However, perhaps none of the allied parties with the PML-N would agree to an election before October 2023."
Ms Shah believes the Punjab result clearly shows the PTI is in the ascendency.
"Imran Khan was able to secure this victory for his party without the help of the military; without businessmen, who previously funded his electoral campaigns, and without having any major electable candidates [who have dependable vote banks] in his camp," she says.

But she also expressed caution about reading too much into these results and interpreting them as a bellwether for rest of the country.
"While the PTI's popularity is on a upward slope, a true referendum on where the PML-N stands in Punjab will only be possible in general polls."

How deep is Pakistan's economic crisis?

What makes life even more complicated for the ruling coalition is Pakistan's precarious economic situation.
It was forced to introduce a steep hike in fuel prices and remove other subsidies within weeks of taking office, in order to meet International Monetary Fund (IMF) conditions to resume a $7.2bn aid package.
Cyril Almeida believes that the Punjab result has essentially "driven a stake through the IMF deal".
"Had the PML-N won, the government would have been looking towards hikes in the rates of electricity. Instead, the markets have dipped on the back of obvious uncertainty."
He says if Imran Khan's team get back into office, they may even seek to renegotiate a PML-N deal with the IMF that itself was a renegotiation of an existing PTI deal.
"The economy will remain in deep trouble," he says
So Dimmy won 15/20 seats in Pakjab against Military and PMLN.

Shades of Mujeeb ur Rehman in March 1971.

Win is also blow to massa who is pouring money to pro up PMLN led Bakistan.
Three losers: Military, Chota Badmash, Amrika
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Anujan wrote:....Pakistan needs a strong leader like Kaptaan. Look at how he handled the covid crisis!! All because he knew a lot about bats, and I heard the disease originated in bats. Even his party symbol is a bat.
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My reading: these were by-elections and nobody in the PA gave a rat's a$$ to PTI/PML(N)/PPP/whatever :P If these were regular elections, I don't think the PA t*rds would have been so blase.

When regular elections are held, RATS will be out in full force. To make sure no political party gets a full majority. So that they can find bit/fringe players to support big guys (PPP/PML(N)/PTI etc). So that the civilian government will dance to their tunes. If not, use the bit players to pull the plug on the government :P
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ramana wrote: So Dimmy won 15/20 seats in Pakjab against Military and PMLN.
Maybe not be against the whole Military but just the Bajwa faction.
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Warning: Open link at your own risk. Photu included.
Mazari claims finding 'voice-recorder' in her bedroom
Former minister for human rights and Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) leader Shireen Mazari on Tuesday claimed that her bedroom had been bugged, as domestic staff found a listening device attached to a table.

The PTI leader addressed a press conference to bring forth allegations of constitutional violations against state institutions, holding a small black device.
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Jalebi madam seems dissapointed it was just an audio recorder and not a video spy cam... :((
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I think the TFTAs will wait for the current dispensation to get an IMF agreement, pass unpopular measures and then call for elections.

The aam Abduls will be enraged with badmash junior and vote in Kaptaan.

The it will be Taliban Akhundzada in Afghanistan and Taliban Khan in Pakistan.
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Manish_P wrote:Jalebi madam seems dissapointed it was just an audio recorder and not a video spy cam... :((
Pakistan can't afford shattered screens from unfortunate employees smashing their monitors.
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partha wrote:
ramana wrote: So Dimmy won 15/20 seats in Pakjab against Military and PMLN.
Maybe not be against the whole Military but just the Bajwa faction.
But were not all these seats held by PTI before the no confidence motion? Out of 20, 11 were PTI and 9 were independent who later joined PTI. Because they voted in favor of no confidence motion all of them were unseated and bye elections were held. Now PTI won 15 (a gain of FOUR) and PML(N) won 5 (a gain of FIVE). So why is this a PTI victory and not PML (N) victory? I am a bit confused.
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If chota sharif has an iota of political sense than he should resign from the center and call for fresh elections. With Punjab and KPK in Imran's hand and with fall coming in, Imran will lay siege to the capital soon and make it difficult for the chote mian. Higher Judiciary and part of establishment are clearly siding with Imran and Chote mian wont be able to use them. Plus chote mian will be asked to take all the tough decisions for the economy, which means that more and more people will side with Imran.

Looks like Karma has finally arrived for the Pakis.
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saip wrote:
partha wrote: Maybe not be against the whole Military but just the Bajwa faction.
But were not all these seats held by PTI before the no confidence motion? Out of 20, 11 were PTI and 9 were independent who later joined PTI. Because they voted in favor of no confidence motion all of them were unseated and bye elections were held. Now PTI won 15 (a gain of FOUR) and PML(N) won 5 (a gain of FIVE). So why is this a PTI victory and not PML (N) victory? I am a bit confused.
Usually the incumbent government wins the bye elections. More so in Punjab where people vote for those in the power. That didnt happen. This is significant.

Incumbents who defeated PMLN last time lost despite being supported by PMLN. Technically they should have smooth sailing with their own base and PMLN vote base. Their defeat is pointing to the fact that voters are buying PTI narrative.
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Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022

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Anujan wrote:I think the TFTAs will wait for the current dispensation to get an IMF agreement, pass unpopular measures and then call for elections.

The aam Abduls will be enraged with badmash junior and vote in Kaptaan.

The it will be Taliban Akhundzada in Afghanistan and Taliban Khan in Pakistan.
One good thing that might come out of this is the destruction and discrediting of PMLN and loss of their stranglehold over Pakjab. IIRC most of the pappi jhappi with past and current NDA govts and the resultant terrorist attacks on India (or attacks by uniformed terrorists like Kargil) have happened with PMLN in power.

Their replacements will probably be PTI and even the TLP, which can successfully lead Pakiland to internal chaos and international isolation.
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saip wrote:
partha wrote: Maybe not be against the whole Military but just the Bajwa faction.
But were not all these seats held by PTI before the no confidence motion? Out of 20, 11 were PTI and 9 were independent who later joined PTI. Because they voted in favor of no confidence motion all of them were unseated and bye elections were held. Now PTI won 15 (a gain of FOUR) and PML(N) won 5 (a gain of FIVE). So why is this a PTI victory and not PML (N) victory? I am a bit confused.
Well, firstly those were not really 'won' in the previous election by the PTI fair and square in the first place, they were handed to PTI by election day sabotage by Army/ISI (hence the use of mercenary feudal 'independents' whom the Army conveniently called upon later to withdraw support and cause the PTI govt to lose their power as well). Also, Pakjab is PMLN stronghold with almost no prior inroads by PTI except for a couple of feudals like Qureshi.

This round of voting was relatively clean with the Army/ISI staying out, hence it is a fairly big achievement (at least in psychological terms and momentum) for the PTI. More importantly, in the current situation in Pakistan, it gives the discredited Imran and PTI a major boost, greatly enhancing their ability to make trouble, and putting a lot of pressure on the Army/ISI.
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