Terroristan - March 31, 2022

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Dilbu wrote:The kaptaan is getting emboldened day by day. Will he make it again to the top post or to the lamp post?
Not COAS job to seek US help in securing IMF loan: Imran
Former prime minister and PTI Chairman Imran Khan has said that it was not the army chief’s job to approach the United States over the International Monetary Fund (IMF) deal.

“If these reports are correct that [Chief of Army Staff] General Bajwa is seeking America’s help in getting IMF [loan] it means that the country is getting weaker,” he said in an interview with the local TV channel on Friday. His statement comes as COAS Gen Bajwa reached out to the US administration with a request for help in securing an early dispersal of a tranche of bailout package from the IMF in an effort to stabilise the dwindling economy of Pakistan.

According to security sources, the army chief spoke by phone with US Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman earlier this week.
The report in Nikkei was by Wajahat Khan who it seems is close to PTI. His report claimed that Bajwa reaching out to US was confirmed by both Pak and US sources. I call BS on US sources. Such reach outs must be closely guarded secret (most powerful person in Pak reaching out to a deputy secretary in US..lol..izzat ka sawal) in Pak so who leaked it? There definitely seems to be a faction in army backing PTI.
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Is there No Hope left for Pakistan? - Dr. Prof. Pervez Hoodbhoy | Abbas Haidar (ViewPoint)
https://youtu.be/-Dq1TnELkVA?t=1485

Goodboy says
  • naPak is headed towards civil war due to bankruptcy, and may happen in the next 5 to 10 years
  • There is infighting within each political party
  • The fauj may be divided in upto four factions
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Bart S wrote:

However, whichever way any of this actually goes, Pakistan is certainly the loser. :mrgreen:
Somehow this last line makes me happy.

Does that mean I am a yeevil yindoo?
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That is redundant. Yindoos are by definition yevil.
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partha wrote: The report in Nikkei was by Wajahat Khan who it seems is close to PTI. His report claimed that Bajwa reaching out to US was confirmed by both Pak and US sources. I call BS on US sources. Such reach outs must be closely guarded secret (most powerful person in Pak reaching out to a deputy secretary in US..lol..izzat ka sawal) in Pak so who leaked it? There definitely seems to be a faction in army backing PTI.
As an aside, the fellow is a gasbag and one of those people imagining that he is a Uzbek Arab riding a Mongolian horse to invade India.

He is the one who once asked a gasbag question to General Bikram Singh who replied that Indian army does not have a tradition of lying unlike Pakistani army.
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The realisation is slowly dawning.
Pakistan’s days of extracting geopolitical rent are over. What next?
Since its independence some 75 years ago, Pakistan’s ruling elite have thrived on foreign largesse. Over the decades, the desire to benefit from geopolitical rents has become innate.

Lulled into a comfortable life, the current generation of this class is blind to how the geopolitical sands have shifted under their feet. Rather than wake up from their slumber and find a way to steady themselves and the country in today’s world, the country’s elite are insistent on staying firmly in place, no matter the consequences.

Since the turn of the 21st century, Pakistan’s stability has been underpinned by four main patrons — the United States, China, and the Gulf monarchies of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.
The Arab monarchies were now interested in pursuing radical transformation of their economy, society, and foreign policy. The Abraham Accords, a major achievement of Trump’s presidency, was an inflection point.

The monarchies now cared about return on investment from their allies, which included Pakistan. Unfortunately for them, both the economic and geopolitical returns in the recent past were in the red.

China also began to develop a more nuanced and jaded view of Pakistan and what its elites could offer.
With the country’s ruling class currently engaged in scorched-earth warfare, all four of Pakistan’s historical patrons are recalibrating their policy towards Islamabad.

This is not only because Pakistan has fallen short of the expectations these countries have had over the years, but also because they have more important strategic challenges that they must contend with. As a result, they are not interested in spending an inordinate amount of time or resources in dealing with Pakistan.

Today’s increasingly multipolar world demands a different set of strategies from Pakistan. This is especially true because Pakistan’s traditional guarantors are preoccupied with a different set of challenges, and they increasingly believe that Pakistan does not offer much to them as a force multiplier — both geopolitically and economically.
However the conclusion of the article is weak and only partially correct.
This does not need be the case, because Pakistan has immense latent capabilities to be a valuable partner for its key strategic partners. For one, Pakistan’s defence capabilities, including its nuclear prowess, offers the Saudis a buffer to backstop its security concerns.{The current cold shouldering from KSA is after taking this possibility into consideration. So bhat is new here?} Then there is the potential to be part of a diversified global supply chain as the world seeks to move away from China.{Hain? TSP sitting with a begging bowl and no industrial expertise will somehow step into the shoes of China to be part of global supply chain as per this lahori logic. Apart from some textile and leather items what else can TSP offer?} Finally, to China, Pakistan offers access to a deep sea port if Gwadar finally reaches its potential.{Okay this is clutching at the straws}

Harnessing these capabilities, however, requires the country’s ruling class to first internalise that the world has changed – it will no longer rescue the Sick Man of South Asia :D simply because it is too big to fail.

Once elites recognise that the days of extracting geopolitical rents are over, the country can begin the process of rebuilding its value proposition to the world.
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Anujan wrote:
partha wrote: The report in Nikkei was by Wajahat Khan who it seems is close to PTI. His report claimed that Bajwa reaching out to US was confirmed by both Pak and US sources. I call BS on US sources. Such reach outs must be closely guarded secret (most powerful person in Pak reaching out to a deputy secretary in US..lol..izzat ka sawal) in Pak so who leaked it? There definitely seems to be a faction in army backing PTI.
As an aside, the fellow is a gasbag and one of those people imagining that he is a Uzbek Arab riding a Mongolian horse to invade India.

He is the one who once asked a gasbag question to General Bikram Singh who replied that Indian army does not have a tradition of lying unlike Pakistani army.
Yeah, same clown. One of those Pakis who remind me of this great line by Teja - "saale dus dus hazaar ka suit pehente hain, akal dus paise ke bhi nahin hain".
Moeed Yusuf. Where is he? Didn't he go to DC and "threaten" US that if Biden doesn't call Imran Khan, Pakistan has other options? Here we have the army chief begging a US deputy secretary for money. How's that for an option?


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partha wrote: The report in Nikkei was by Wajahat Khan who it seems is close to PTI. His report claimed that Bajwa reaching out to US was confirmed by both Pak and US sources. I call BS on US sources. Such reach outs must be closely guarded secret (most powerful person in Pak reaching out to a deputy secretary in US..lol..izzat ka sawal) in Pak so who leaked it? There definitely seems to be a faction in army backing PTI.
Interestingly Wendy Sherman, when she last visited India, had the following to say on her visit to Pakistan (where she was going to next), that got the Paki's panties in a twist:
“It’s for a very specific and narrow purpose, we don’t see ourselves building a broad relationship with Pakistan. And we have no interest in returning to the days of hyphenated India, Pakistan. That’s not where we are. That’s not where we’re going to be,” she said while speaking at the Ananta Aspen Centre in Mumbai.
There was an uproar in the ISPR talking-points driven Paki "news shows" and one of them went to the extent of labeling her Wendy Sharma. :mrgreen:

So it is really funny to see Bajwa grovel before her for a few bucks.
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Dilbu wrote:The realisation is slowly dawning.
Pakistan’s days of extracting geopolitical rent are over. What next?
Knowing Paki elites, they will still try to persist at geopolitical rent seeking, and as to what's next, the answer is the search for other forms of rent seeking. Their rent seeking nature will not change.
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Bart S wrote:
Dilbu wrote:The realisation is slowly dawning.
Pakistan’s days of extracting geopolitical rent are over. What next?
Knowing Paki elites, they will still try to persist at geopolitical rent seeking, and as to what's next, the answer is the search for other forms of rent seeking. Their rent seeking nature will not change.
Simply move to geopolitical extortion
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Enchandee dicates the headline while the reality is something else...

Yawn - US restoring Pakistan’s Category 1 safety rating
The US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) could upgrade Pakistan’s safety rating to Category 1, allowing direct flights from Pakistani airports, the US media reported on Saturday.

There have been no direct flights between the two countries since 2017 when the FAA downgraded Pakistan to Category 2 due to concerns over Pakistan’s aviation safety record.

Simple Flying, a niche news site focused on aviation, reported that the FAA will soon send its inspectors to Pakistan to assess the country’s airports and aircraft. The FAA is the largest transportation agency of the US government and regulates all aspects of civil aviation in the country.

Should the country’s aviation sector pass the test, there is a good possibility Pakistan will receive a Category 1 rating,” Simple Flying reported.
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Fate of Pakistani medical graduates working in US hangs in balance
ISLAMABAD: Doctors who graduated from Pakistani colleges may not be able to work in the United States (US) after Jan 2024 as the country has failed to meet the criteria of the World Federation for Medical Education (WFME) and the deadline is approaching fast.

Defunct Pakistan Medical and Dental Council (PMDC) had applied for the WFME accreditation and also invited its delegation to visit Pakistan but in 2019, the PMDC was dissolved and Pakistan Medical Commission (PMC) was established. Subsequently, the WFME visit was postponed.

In order to get accreditation from the WFME, Pakistan has time till January 2024 and the current Pakistan Medical Commission (PMC) Act at present does not meet the criteria to get recognition from the world body.
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Two killed, 17 wounded in Gilgit clash
GILGIT: Two people were killed and 17 others were injured when two religious groups clashed here at Yadgar Chowk, near Gilgit deputy commissioner’s office. According to police, the clash between the two groups began when the top Shia leader of Gilgit-Baltistan, Agha Rahat Hussain Al-Hussaini, was hoisting the Alam (flag) of Hazrat Imam Hussain at Khomar Chowk at the start of Muharram.
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1702688/ecp-t ... ay-at-10am

ECP to announce verdict in PTI prohibited funding case on Tuesday at 10am

The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) will announce its verdict in the much-delayed prohibited funding case — previously referred to as the foreign funding case — against the PTI on Tuesday (August 2) at 10am.

The case, which was filed by party founding member Akbar S Babar, has been pending since Nov 14, 2014
We will soon know if boys like Badmash or Kaptaan.

Also why this outrage about foreign funding hainji?

Pakistan's economy is foreign funded by the IMF, remittances and their four fathers. Pakistan's army is foreign funded by Massa and Cheen. Why cant Kaptaan be foreign funded?
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https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/97878 ... -coas-says
RAWALPINDI: Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Qamar Javed Bajwa on Monday attended the 95th Anniversary of the founding of the Chinese Peoples’ Liberation Army (PLA) as the event’s chief guest, the Inter-Services Public Relations said in a statement.

The anniversary was commemorated at the General Headquarters (GHQ) in Rawalpindi.
ROFLMAO. Why is Pak army celebrating founding of PLA? Shouldn't they be saving every penny given the state of economy?
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https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/ ... 4550260737
AFP: Significant Al Qaeda target killed in CIA strike
Drone strike in Kabul. Should we expect IMF funds flowing to Pakistan soon? It will be interesting if US completely bypassed Pakistan for this drone strike. They do have bases around Afghanistan in other countries right?

Edit: US kills al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri in drone strike in Afghanistan
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I posted a few days back in economic stress watch. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5728&start=5640#p2559974
Anujan wrote:
nachiket wrote:Bajwa himself is now openly begging the Americans for $1.2bn. :rotfl:

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Intern ... bt-default
Tactical brilliance again.

If they had taliban out of afghanistan, then they could have blocked NATO convoy and demanded more coalition support payments. They tactically brilliantly have taliban in power and no leverage against Unkil.

Not sure if Massa will bite. We will know it has if bad Haqqani and Some Al Qaeda No 2 get droned.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/01/politics ... index.html

US kills al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri in drone strike in Afghanistan :rotfl:

When is Bad Haqqani's turn?
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RIP Brave mujahid Ayman Al Zawahiri

Lived facilitating terrorism, died facilitating IMF loan.
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The "case" of the exploding mangoes has resulted in corpse kammundus/jernails requesting early visit to 72 virgins ...

https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/statu ... 0686203904

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Unconfirmed reports say the chopper missing in Pakistan had Quetta Corps Commander Lt. Gen. Sarfaraz Ali on board apart from other senior Pakistan Army and Coast Guard officials. No official word yet from the Pakistan Army.

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Its confirmed. Heard that the guy (Crore Kamandu) was supporting Dimran and was bumped off.
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CalvinH wrote:Its confirmed. Heard that the guy (Crore Kamandu) was supporting Dimran and was bumped off.
DIMran next? :rotfl:
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The great jarnail Bajwa, once wanted a loan
He called Wendy who said “Lay down in position prone”
So he offered up Zawahiri
Who was al qaeda no 2, in theory
And got him killed by an angry predator drone
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Anujan wrote:The great jarnail Bajwa, once wanted a loan
He called Wendy who said “Lay down in position prone”
So he offered up Zawahiri
Who was al qaeda no 2, in theory
And got him killed by an angry predator drone
BRF-ites are being very poetic in recent times :lol:
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The drone must have come from Pakistan and used Paki airspace.

A corp commander favoring Imran is bumped off. Rest will get the signal and maintain their peace.

I predict that today Imran and PTI will be banned by pakis election commission in the foreign funding case.

Bajwa has done his part for the chota sharif.
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https://dailytimes.com.pk/975721/army-c ... off-radar/
Army chopper goes off radar
AUGUST 2, 2022

A Pakistan Army aviation helicopter en route from Quetta to Karachi with senior military officials aboard went missing on Monday, the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) confirmed in a tweet.
Taking to Twitter, the military’s media wing said that the aviation helicopter was on a flood relief operation in Lasbela, Balochistan when it lost contact with air traffic control (ATC). “Six individuals were on board, including Commander 12 Corps who was supervising flood relief operations in Balochistan,” the tweet said.
As per available information, Major Syed was the pilot while Major Talha was the co-pilot of the helicopter. Corp Commander Quetta Lieutenant General Sarfaraz Ali, who was supervising the flood relief operations in the province, was also on board. The Director-General of Coast Guards Major General Amjad, Engineer Brigadier Khalid, and chief naik Mudassir were also onboard.
Following the incident, the district administration said that a helicopter crashed in the vicinity of the Sassi Punnu Shrine, located near the Windar area, however, the ISPR had not issued any confirmation till filing of this report at 2am.
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Anujan wrote:..

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/01/politics ... index.html

US kills al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri in drone strike in Afghanistan :rotfl:

When is Bad Haqqani's turn?
So the paki bizness-pasand Fauj is feeling desperate enough to sell off it's geo-economic 'ass'ets..

How many more such 'international' quality asses do they have to offer - other than Haqqani?
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Taliban will not take this too kindly. There will be many sitting bakras in afpak region if TSPA is forced to sell more targets in exchange of $. TTP should get active again very soon.
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Dilbu wrote:Taliban will not take this too kindly. There will be many sitting bakras in afpak region if TSPA is forced to sell more targets in exchange of $. TTP should get active again very soon.
Dilbullah, who says Taliban is not in the plan? The Pashtuns are historic sell-outs for right price (hence “martial race” moniker by Brits).

Zuhawari probably must have died of old age, waiting endlessly for a heroic entry to jannat. Time was not ripe for khan, pakis or taliban to cash in on his remains. But now with Biden’s FP down the cackoose, pakis transitioning to a lower form of bedpan and Taliban in dire need of money for bacha-bazi season, it is time to cash in on the old egyptian cadaver. So Taliban seem to have shoved him into one of those rented “mobile mortuary/freezer” while negotiations on his inam and logistics of refueling a CIA drone at Kandahar was going on.

It worked out for everyone including Zuwahiri’s reputation. There is no glory among the ummah for people like him, if the assassin that killed him was diabetes or stale shawarma.

Except for maybe the “Kabul Mobile Mortuary” rental chap who must be furious at this whole affair after hearing Zuwahiri got blown up along with his freezer, but was forced to return the deposit since Taliban hates deductions.
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Bajwa has asked for $1.2B from US. US asked something back. Bajwa delivered. Only the speed of GUBO is a surprise here. But than Pakis can sell their mothers for the money.

Who cares about Paki low level fauji meeting their 72s at the AFG border or inside Pakistan when corner plots of gernails are threatened.

By the way strike was in Kabul. The only route inwards for this kind of operation is through Pakistan.
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Yep. This was 100% an operation carried out jointly by the three Doha partners.
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CalvinH wrote:Bajwa has asked for $1.2B from US. US asked something back. Bajwa delivered. Only the speed of GUBO is a surprise here. But than Pakis can sell their mothers for the money.

Who cares about Paki low level fauji meeting their 72s at the AFG border or inside Pakistan when corner plots of gernails are threatened.

By the way strike was in Kabul. The only route inwards for this kind of operation is through Pakistan.
+1.

If and when TTP blowback starts Bajwa can dispatch the Imran-backers to the Afghan front for Zarbs and Fasaad operations. If the bunnies don't get them, then maybe they can meet their 72 on the way back..
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Hnairgolis is speaking the truth as always. However I doubt if the entire Taliban jirga was onboard for this operation. What is the point in winning Afghanistan if the great satan can walk in and drone maulanas at will? I am betting there is a significant section of mujs out there who would want TSPA’s a$$ as revenge.
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Anujan wrote:The great jarnail Bajwa, once wanted a loan
He called Wendy who said “Lay down in position prone”
So he offered up Zawahiri
Who was al qaeda no 2, in theory
And got him killed by an angry predator drone
Scoop: Pakistan is about to announce Nishan-e-Pakistan for AlQaeda no 2. Citation to read "for saving Pakistan's economy repeatedly". Both Islamabad and Rawalpindi sources have confirmed.
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The C.I.A. missiles hit a house in Kabul’s Sherpur area, a wealthy downtown enclave within what is considered the city’s diplomatic quarters, which once housed dozens of Western embassies and now is home to some high-ranking Taliban officials.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/01/us/p ... istan.html

Al-Zawahri had been much more active releasing videos in the year since the Taliban took over Afghanistan, Mr. Clarke said. The Qaeda leader released a video in May speaking about the importance of jihad in Kashmir. :roll: {This message was brought to you by our sponsors, the ISI, he added in the end.}
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Anujan wrote:RIP Brave mujahid Ayman Al Zawahiri

Lived facilitating terrorism, died facilitating IMF loan.
I get the feeling some Afghan foreign currency assets are going to get miraculously unfrozen as well after this.
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https://twitter.com/bsarwary/status/1553781404026212353
Am told this was one of the homes hit. Photo of a drone shared with me, hard to confirm.
The house targeted has 17 rooms, it is a four story building plus a basement. The house is a luxury house Pakistani style villa. There are many rooms that could be used either as work space or bedrooms.
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National Bird of Pakistan seems to have laid its egg through the window. Apparently there is a new kind of egg with an inert warhead and swords

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That causes damage like this. Interestingly, no blast marks or scorch marks from explosive warhead.

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Zawahiri is resting in pieces.
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Wow! If true, amazing accuracy of the drone.
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^^At this rate we may have to rewrite national icons of AlBakistan:
National Bird: Predator Drone
National Animal: Donkey or on second thoughts 'Kushboo'
National Flower: Poppy
Currency: 'Toilet Paper'
National Tree : Lamp-post
National Pastime: 'Around the world with Kashgol in 30 days'
National Emblem : Suicide vest
National River: ???
National Arts Theatre: Hira Mandi
Rest the Maulanars can advice :rotfl:
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Anujan wrote:..
National Bird of Pakistan seems to have laid its egg through the window. Apparently there is a new kind of egg with an inert warhead and swords

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The Hellfire R9X nicknamed 'the Ginsu'

That be the one that the yehudis used to shred ummah (but shia) birather General Qassem Soleimani to pieces a couple of years ago
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Rsatchi wrote:^^
National River: ???
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