Terroristan - March 31, 2022

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 15 Jan 2023 09:24

Social media chatter is that Pakistan banks are refusing to sell dollars to send to kids of Pakistanis studying abroad.

This is the first time the dekhonomoney is really biting the elite, and not just Mango Abduls on the street.

I say bring back Kaptaan. He knows how to send kids to study abroad.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 15 Jan 2023 10:21

Anujan wrote:Social media chatter is that Pakistan banks are refusing to sell dollars to send to kids of Pakistanis studying abroad.

This is the first time the dekhonomoney is really biting the elite, and not just Mango Abduls on the street.

I say bring back Kaptaan. He knows how to send kids to study abroad.

Most of the elites have a foreign citizenship/ resident permits. Won't the elite already have overseas accounts?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 15 Jan 2023 22:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZoONrXVBpE

INDIA GIFTS WHEAT TO 74 COUNTRIES BUT WHEAT FLOUR CRISIS IN PAKISTAN | PAKISTANI PUBLIC REACTION

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 15 Jan 2023 22:58

What is the price of atta in India vs Pakistan, in Pakistani rupees?

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 15 Jan 2023 22:59

Of course a corollary would be what is the purchasing power in the two?

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 15 Jan 2023 23:16

sanjaykumar, between 35-60 INR depending on where you buy (govt PDS vs online). That would be roughly 100 to 180 PKR

Anujan wrote:Social media chatter is that Pakistan banks are refusing to sell dollars to send to kids of Pakistanis studying abroad.

Traveled a few days ago via a Gulf hub airport to US. The gulf-JFK flight I took was chock a block with pakis. Mainly affluent looking young singles and lots of couples. Never seen that many before on a single flight. Probably same or higher to Canada or European destinations. Baba Banaras got that one right in his tweet. Looks like exodus of elites. Probably most of well-heeled are worried about lankan type mobs defying khakis and burning down mahals. The paki feudal idiots of both gender are not known to be nice to the abduls working the streets or fields. Khan also might have made a deal to “slovacuate” these lowlife RAPEs in exchange for moving away from China. All these IMF BS seem to be to buy time for RAPE

I say bring back Kaptaan. He knows how to send kids to study abroad.

Yessir! Al Qaptani knows everything there is to know. He needs to come back with the tea-sipping Jernail Arippa-ass as COAS

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 16 Jan 2023 02:06

There are several instructive points here. There was commentary in the pro Hindutva channels that it is after all only a bikini. And of course some other quarters felt that bikinis do not have a religion.

Are Hindus really naive of the value of semiotics? Would a green bikini have religion/ Would there be bombings and riots? In India we will never know.

The more important lesson is that India is reverting back to a more sex-positive culture (speaking of the image only) and seems to have had enough of Abrahamic prudery and repression.

(I cannot even view the videos of these Muslim women being flogged and I am not even Muslim).

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 16 Jan 2023 13:04

'Shameful For A Nuclear Power To Beg': Pak PM Amid Financial Crisis

Islamabad: Pakistan Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif has said it is a matter of shame that a country, which is a nuclear power, has to beg amid its faltering economy, reported The News International.

Addressing the passing-out ceremony of probationary officers of Pakistan Administrative Service (PAS) on Saturday, Shehbaz Sharif said it really embarrassed him to ask for further loans, adding that seeking foreign loans was not the right solution to address Pakistan's economic challenges as loans would have to be returned.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 16 Jan 2023 13:07

So the fatwas issued by TSP pasand scholars are not being followed by TTP?
DSP among three martyred in audacious Peshawar attack

PESHAWAR: A senior police officer along with two constables embraced martyrdom in a midnight militant attack, which officials believe is the first of its kind where modern gadgets were used to target police, on Sarband police station on the outskirts of Peshawar.

Deputy Superintendent of Police Sardar Hussain and his gunmen Irshad Khan and Jahanzeb embraced martyrdom in the gun attack on Sarband police station on the outskirts of Peshawar.

The banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) claimed responsibility for the attack.

partha · Post by **partha** » 16 Jan 2023 23:22

Where is the Russian oil? Two weeks ago a Pakistani minister had claimed that Russia had agreed to supply crude at a better discount compared to India.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 17 Jan 2023 08:51

Dilbu wrote:So the fatwas issued by TSP pasand scholars are not being followed by TTP?
DSP among three martyred in audacious Peshawar attack
...

As well known on BRF, green has even more shades than grey... the greenest being black.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 17 Jan 2023 11:11

I am reading this book https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/ ... e-pashtuns which has interesting insight between fatwas and TTP, why they might or might not follow them

Maybe I will post excerpts to this dhaaga or Afghanistan dhaaga after I am done.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 17 Jan 2023 12:54

TSP is cooking up something.
PM Shehbaz extends olive branch to Modi, seeks sincere talks on Kashmir

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, in an effort to resolve the burning issues with New Delhi, including the Indian ~~Illegally Occupied~~ Jammu Kashmir (IIOJK), asked his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi to hold serious and sincere talks.

Speaking during an interview with Al Arabiya news channel, the prime minister said: "My message to the Indian leadership and Prime Minister Narendra Modi is that let us sit down on the table and have serious and sincere talks to resolve our burning issues like Kashmir.”

PM Shehbaz said that flagrant human rights violations were taking place day in and day out in the IIOJK, adding that the neighbouring country had usurped any semblance of autonomy given to the Kashmiris according to Article 370 of the Indian Constitution. The autonomy was revoked in August 2019.

The premier also said that the minorities in India were being persecuted. “This must stop so that message can go around the globe that India is ready to have talks.”

PM Shehbaz said Pakistan and India are neighbours and have to live with each other.

“It is up to us to live peacefully and make progress or quarrel with each other, and waste time and resources. We have three wars with India and it only brought more misery, poverty and unemployment to the people. We have learnt our lesson and we want to live in peace provided we are able to resolve our genuine problems.

“We want to alleviate poverty, achieve prosperity, and provide education and health facilities and employment to our people and not waste our resources on bombs and ammunition, that is the message I want to give to Prime Minister Modi,” he added.

The premier remarked that both countries are nuclear powers and armed to teeth. "If God forbid a war breaks out who will live to tell what happened," he said.

He said the leadership of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) could play an important role to bring Pakistan and India together, adding he would hold talks with the Indian leadership with the sincerity of purpose.

He said Saudi Arabia was a friendly and brotherly country, and they had unique brotherly relations for centuries.

Before Pakistan came into being and carved out of India, millions of Muslims had brotherly relations with Saudi Arabia and they were visiting Makkah and Madina, he recalled.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 17 Jan 2023 12:55

Yawn news:
let-us-sit-down-on-the-table-and-have-serious-sincere-talks-pm-shehbaz-to-modi

Loji More begging
Most likely water is flowing three metres over the head!!

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 17 Jan 2023 12:57

Looks like the Feudals are realising that the hunger pangs are making the awaam thirsty for blood.. and not just the kafir type.

And didn't the Saudis recently demoted the relationship from a brotherly one to a sisterly one ??

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 17 Jan 2023 12:57

partha wrote:Where is the Russian oil? Two weeks ago a Pakistani minister had claimed that Russia had agreed to supply crude at a better discount compared to India.

Russian team to arrive today for oil talks

ISLAMABAD: A high-level Russian delegation headed by the country’s minister for energy will reach Pakistan on Tuesday (today) to attend the 8th session of the Inter-Governmental Commission (IGC) on trade and cooperation scheduled to take place from 18-20 January.

The delegation, comprising 80 members, will hold bilateral talks on the oil and liquefied natural gas (LNG) trade deal for a long-term basis and the much-touted flagship $3 billion Pakistan Stream Gas Pipeline (PSGP) project.

It will arrive in Pakistan for three-day bilateral talks under the forum of the IGC.

Islamabad and Kremlin will exchange views on electric power, hydropower, renewable energy sources, and oil, and gas production cooperation. If cash-strapped Pakistan can secure deals at a 30% discount, the country would be able to save over $2 billion annually.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 17 Jan 2023 13:03

Rs200b mini-budget to appease IMF on cards

ISLAMABAD: The government may impose taxes to the tune of Rs200 billion – with effect from next month – aimed at breaking a deadlock with the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

However, the current uncertain political situation in the country is causing a delay in taking a final decision in this regard.

The move came after the global money lender asked Pakistan to honour its commitments and take measures to bridge the revenue shortfall of nearly Rs220 billion that surfaced by the end of the first half (July-December) of the current fiscal year.

Earlier, the government’s plan was to only impose taxes on imports as well as on commercial banks to generate about Rs80 billion for the rehabilitation of flood victims. However, government sources said that the list has been further expanded, which includes substantially increasing the capital value tax rates on imported and locally assembled vehicles, sugary drinks and petroleum products.

Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif was expected to take a briefing at the weekend in Lahore but due to his political engagements, the meeting could not take place. The political uncertainty coupled with the increasing unpopularity of the PML-N is a reason behind the reluctance to take new measures.

Pakistan will also have to let the rupee gain its real value, as the IMF may not be pleased with the mere imposition of new taxes. The official rupee-dollar parity is Rs228.35 but in the Hawala market, it is over Rs270.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 17 Jan 2023 13:04

Pak's Abdul Makki Named Global Terrorist, Year After China Blocked Attempt

New York: The United Nations Security Council (UNSC) on Monday listed Pakistan-based terrorist Abdul Rehman Makki as a global terrorist under its ISIL (Da'esh) and Al-Qaida Sanctions Committee.

This listing comes after China last year put on India's bid to name the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) leader a global terrorist. In June 2022, India slammed China after it blocked the proposal to list terrorist Abdul Rehman Makki under the Sanctions Committee, also known as the UNSC 1267 Committee.

India and the US have already listed Makki as a terrorist under their domestic laws. He has been involved in raising funds, recruiting and radicalizing youth to violence and planning attacks in India, especially in Jammu and Kashmir.

Makki is the brother-in-law of Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) chief and 26/11 mastermind Hafiz Saeed. He has occupied various leadership roles within LeT, a US-designated Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO). He has also played a role in raising funds for LeT operations.

Ashokk · Post by **Ashokk** » 17 Jan 2023 14:56

'Pakistan has learnt its lesson': Shehbaz Sharif calls for honest talks with PM Modi

NEW DELHI: Pakistan PM Shehbaz Sharif has called for an honest talk with Prime Minister Narendra Modi on various burning issues like Kashmir. Sharif, in an interview with a Dubai-based Arabic news channel, stressed that Pakistan has learnt its lessons and wants to live in peace with India.
"My message to the Indian leadership and Prime Minister Modi is that let's sit down on the table and have serious and sincere talks to resolve our burning points like Kashmir," Sharif said.
The Pakistan PM said that it is up to both the nations to live peacefully and progress or quarrel with each other.
"We have had three wars with India, and they have only brought more misery, poverty, and unemployment to the people. We have learnt our lesson, and we want to live in peace with India, provided we are able to resolve our genuine problems," Sharif said in the interview that was aired on Monday.
Pakistan, which is battling a severe economic crisis, public discontent against the ruling regime due to flour crisis and fuel shortage among others is also facing rising instances of terror attacks by the proscribed outfit Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), which had ended a ceasefire with the country's security forces late last year.
"India is our neighbour country, we are neighbours. Let's be very blunt, even if we are not neighbours by choice we are there for ever and it is up to us for us to live peacefully and progress or quarrel with each other and waste time and resources. That is up to us," Sharif said in the interview.
Bringing up the subject of Kashmir, he said, "Pakistan wants peace but what is happening in Kashmir should be stopped."
"Pakistan does not want to waste resources on bombs and ammunition. We are nuclear powers, armed to the teeth, and if God forbids a war breaks out, who will live to tell what happened?" Sharif said.
The Pakistan PM added he had taken up the issue with UAE's President Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed in his recent visit to the Emirates. "He's a brother of Pakistan. He also has good relations with India. He can play a very important role to bring the two countries on the talking table," Sharif said.
India in November last year had lashed out at Pakistan for raking up the issue of Kashmir during a United Nations debate terming it as "desperate attempts to peddle falsehoods".

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 17 Jan 2023 15:11

Ah but why should India talk? And the eternal question - whom should India talk to (since it's clear that Sharif doesn't control Kashmir/India policy)?

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 17 Jan 2023 15:13

Ashokk wrote:'Pakistan has learnt its lesson': Shehbaz Sharif calls for honest talks with PM Modi

Rsatchi wrote:Yawn news:
let-us-sit-down-on-the-table-and-have-serious-sincere-talks-pm-shehbaz-to-modi
Loji More begging
Most likely water is flowing three metres over the head!!

within one day Pakistan has made a full U-Turn. looks like PM Shehbaz is better than kejriwal.
Negotiations with India not possible until reversal of ‘illegal action’ on occupied Kashmir, PMO clarifies

The Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) clarified on Tuesday that talks with India can only take place after the country reverses its “illegal action of August 5, 2019”, which was aimed at illegally altering the demography of the Muslim-majority state of Indian occupied Kashmir.

“Without India’s revocation of this step, negotiations are not possible,” it said.

“In Kashmir, flagrant human rights violations are taking place day in and day out.”

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 17 Jan 2023 16:58

This is why revocation of Art 370 was a master stroke. Now TSP cannot even raise a hue and cry about India not coming to the negotiating table. The moment a paki PM wants to talk to India, opposition will start crying cashmere is being sold. The only way out is if India says everything is on the table, let us discuss. Not happening as long as a nationalist govt is in power in India. Once BIF is back in power the first thing they will do will be to take these shackles away to restore ‘talks’ to give a way out to TSP elites.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 17 Jan 2023 18:47

yensoy wrote:Ah but why should India talk? And the eternal question - whom should India talk to (since it's clear that Sharif doesn't control Kashmir/India policy)?

Lashkar terrorists identified as Arbaaz Mir and Shahid Sheikh of Pulwama have been neutralised by forces in an anti-militancy operation early today. Search operation is still under way

"critical and honest" talks on what ......

Learnt lessons oh really, especially when terrorists are frequently sent across the border sponsored and fostered by the paki establishment and this constant references to the atmi takat and "bum" .......

Does "honest" even apply to any paki,

taqiya is the word that slimy snake oil salesman shariff is actually looking for

the only things that the pakis are desperately seeking are kaffir@wheat and an open wagah border to ease the rapidly building internal dissidence before country wide riots break out and also hoping to placate the IMF by showing good relations and willingness to dialogue with neighbours to convince them to release another tranche or two or three

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 17 Jan 2023 20:37

chetak wrote: the only things that the pakis are desperately seeking are kaffir@wheat and an open wagah border to ease the rapidly building internal dissidence before country wide riots break out and also hoping to placate the IMF by showing good relations and willingness to dialogue with neighbours to convince them to release another tranche or two or three

Ji more accurately, riots in cities, particularly punjabi cities, lahore, pindi, i'bad etc. Rest is not a problem, there can they can simply shoot them to clear the streets!

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 17 Jan 2023 21:46

Based on multiple reports, over past few days, pakis got shipments of grains and pulses from various sources and their usual corrupt system is slowly absorbing it. Prices apparently has come down. So the expected rioting might not happen. Atleast not yet.

Which might explain Shabby Sharif’s u-turn on cashmere. Which is their usual pattern as a country: talk sober when hungry, act vile when stomachs are full

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 17 Jan 2023 22:04

What's the validity of Shahbnaz's statement when we know he can be replaced anytime, the army hangs over his head, and the people are indoctrinated jihadis. Zero.

All he wants is some "gandum".

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 17 Jan 2023 22:59

Cyrano wrote:What's the validity of Shahbnaz's statement when we know he can be replaced anytime, the army hangs over his head, and the people are indoctrinated jihadis. Zero.

All he wants is some "gandum".

If trade via the wagah is opened a lot of "Indian NGOs" will send "aid" to the pakis using the subterfuge of trade (ship items from India but don't collect payments from the pakis) and these are mostly the jaamatis who have a hand in every terrorist pie

the wagah border opens up a whole new gambit for the pakis and a huge gamut of options will start to open up for the paki army and the ISI

shariff has been forced to taqiya and probably lose some votes in the bargain

shariff looks like a shabby used car dealer, dealing in stolen goods

Also, the afghans won't be too far behind in this scam were it to fructify

hope no गांधीगीरी blockbuster is in store regarding the pakis.

Let them wallow in their self created misery

la.khan · Post by **la.khan** » 18 Jan 2023 09:05

Dilbu wrote:This is why revocation of Art 370 was a master stroke. Now TSP cannot even raise a hue and cry about India not coming to the negotiating table. The moment a paki PM wants to talk to India, opposition will start crying cashmere is being sold. The only way out is if India says everything is on the table, let us discuss. Not happening as long as a nationalist govt is in power in India. Once BIF is back in power the first thing they will do will be to take these shackles away to restore ‘talks’ to give a way out to TSP elites.

Dilbu ji, you are right on target. On cue:
https://twitter.com/fawadchaudhry/statu ... 0623038464

Shocked on this statement of Shahbaz Sharif, our stand is Modi Janta must reverse constitutional position of Kashmir to its original, only then Pak ll negotiate begging for talks is not Pak policy we strongly reject this approach Shahbaz Sharif cannot be allowed to sell Kashmir

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 18 Jan 2023 09:35

Soon they will come out and say that they want peace, but to sell the peace at home for hawks they want "concessions".

Articles will be written about how "big brother" India should strengthen the hand of democracy against the "extremists" and should offer concessions in Kashmir and Siachen

Local "intellectuals" will be write about how India's oppression of Siachen happens because Siachen is white and it is hindutva tendencies to oppress whites and therefore is repeating the sins of colonialism, and instead we should forgive the whites.

A renowned analyst will write an article about how if India saves Pakistan from bankruptcy, it is a historic occasion to reset ties and gain goodwill.

No sir. Let them take the first step. Pay restitution for terror victims and deport Dawood, Hafiz Sayeed and various "Abu bin"s and "al something something wi"s. Then we will think.

neeraj · Post by **neeraj** » 18 Jan 2023 10:05

Surrender to dhoti

http://tribune.com.pk/epaper/news/Karac ... E4YzkucG5n

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 18 Jan 2023 10:14

PM says he asked UAE to facilitate dialogue with India

Really UAE? What happened to daddy Amreika?

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif had during his recent trip to the United Arab Emirates asked Emirati President Mohamed bin Zayed Al-Nahyan to facilitate dialogue with India and vowed sincere talk with the arch rivals, if a channel were to open.

Mr Sharif, in an interview to Al-Arabiya news channel, confirmed that he had sought Al-Nahyan’s help for the dialogue, while noting that Pakistan had “learnt its lesson” and “was ready for peace”.

“I have requested Mohammed bin Zayed — that he’s a brother of Pakistan and the UAE is a brotherly country. He also has good relations with India, he can play a very important role to bring the two countries on the talking table and I give my word of honour that we will be talking to Indians with sincerity of purpose,” he said.

The prime minister met Mr Al-Nahyan on Jan 12 in Abu Dhabi during his two-day visit to the UAE. The visit, Mr Sharif’s third to the UAE since assuming office in April, was focused on promoting bilateral economic, trade, and investment ties.

Recalling the three wars with India and the resulting toxicity in ties and sufferings that were caused to the people, Mr Sharif told the interviewer that “we have learnt our lesson” and wanted to live in peace. However, he conditioned that offer to the resolution of “genuine problems”. He specifically noted the Kashmir dispute.

“My message to the Indian leadership and Prime Minister Narendra Modi is that let us sit down on the table and have serious and sincere talks to resolve our burning issues like Kashmir,” he said while reminding about the continuing “flagrant human rights violations” in the occupied region, and the 2019 revocation of the Kashmir’s autonomy.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 18 Jan 2023 10:23

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2396523/br ... a-unlikely

Breakthrough in energy talks with Russia unlikely

payments for Russian crude in dollar are a major stumbling block, which needs to be removed...Moscow has not agreed on any discount

partha · Post by **partha** » 18 Jan 2023 11:07

Anujan wrote:https://tribune.com.pk/story/2396523/br ... a-unlikely

Breakthrough in energy talks with Russia unlikely

payments for Russian crude in dollar are a major stumbling block, which needs to be removed...Moscow has not agreed on any discount

As expected

Next year the new petroleum minister will promise the same thing again. It's a desperate situation and they are making false claims to ease pressure on stock and currency markets.

Have the Saudi officials finished their "study" about investing $10B in Pakistan?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 18 Jan 2023 12:04

Anujan wrote:https://tribune.com.pk/story/2396523/br ... a-unlikely

Breakthrough in energy talks with Russia unlikely

payments for Russian crude in dollar are a major stumbling block, which needs to be removed...Moscow has not agreed on any discount

Some reports of the russkis landing up in porkiland with a delegation of around sixty people and the russkis are hearty eaters and heavy drinkers

the pakis are shipping artillery shells to Ukr and then they expect the russkis to sell them oil at a discount

The pakis must be smoking some really high grade afghan maal, the kind that gets shipped only via the diplomatic pouch.

so, net net, the outcome is no oil, no trade, and no aid

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 18 Jan 2023 12:11

Anujan wrote:https://tribune.com.pk/story/2396523/br ... a-unlikely

Breakthrough in energy talks with Russia unlikely

payments for Russian crude in dollar are a major stumbling block, which needs to be removed...Moscow has not agreed on any discount

Pakistan will refuse to take dictation from Russia and demands that Russia supply them at a discount better than the one given to India. Also, Russia will have to supply them oil and gas on deferred payments (to be waived in the future). Russia needs to remember that Pakistan is the only Islamic atami takat in the world.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 18 Jan 2023 12:26

I can't decide if Pakis are more stupid or shameless.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 18 Jan 2023 13:06

vimal wrote:I can't decide if Pakis are more stupid or shameless.

Why 'or' Vimal ji..

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 18 Jan 2023 13:11

Here is brotherly bakistans chance to help China.. after all bakis are expert breeders

Will China oblige?

China’s population drops for first time since 1961, highlights demographic crisis

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 18 Jan 2023 13:25

I’m sure China does not need donkey breeders, they are not that stupid

Parasu · Post by **Parasu** » 18 Jan 2023 14:00

https://www.dawn.com/news/1732232/senat ... c-downfall

"He also referred to the Code of Criminal Procedure (Amendment) Bill, 2022, which he had presented in the house.

He claimed that the bill “disappeared” after it was passed by both houses of parliament seven months ago.

“This is not an insult to me, but an insult to this house and the entire parliament,” he said.

The bill sought to do away with judicial powers of the district administration in line with the Constitution.

Upon the lawmaker’s insistence, Senate Chairman Sadiq Sanjrani directed the Senate secretary to investigate the bill’s whereabouts and submit a report."