Terroristan - March 31, 2022

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Ambarji,

From 4 years ago,

"Forgive me but who cares! Strike further, strike deeper. Let them spend money and material in building up ALL of POK to make it safe. Let the whole of POK live in shelters and holes like rats. As long as their lives are not normal, we win.

Whilst they are in shelters, do what they themselves do, infiltrate POK, mine it, IED it and booby trap it. We have to exponentially impose a cost upon them. Kashmir has destroyed both their domestic and foreign policy and now in its cause we must force them to beggar their nation as well."

and

"The pukis process the initiative and are currently causing us misery. We are ONLY reactive. This policy is a failure. Period.

India must be the aggressor who is responsible for ALL ceasefire violations. We need to seize the initiative and the equilibrium must lie with us. Until then this thread will remain live."
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+400.

We are not even regularly reactive but only reactive when it is too big to ignore like Pulwama. What was the need to agree to a ceasefire ? If it is to avoid two hot borders at the same time then we are delusional if we believe pakis will sit idle when the lizard gets mischievous again. The whole point of making article 370/35A useless was to fully integrate J&K so it stops being a den of jihadists, but who would want to go if the security situation continues to deteriorate ? With AAP in PJ, it is only a matter of time before the khalistani front is reopened, we are beyond foolish to believe the pakis won't turn up the heat in Kashmir at the same time (and NE too with the help of the lizard).
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The Ceasefire was due to Doval-Bajwa talks.

Perhaps Shri Doval knows what he is doing?
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I cannot imagine Ajit Doval agreeing to infiltration, targeted killing, drone intrusions etc. the experiment of trying to cajole hindus to take up jobs is effectively over after the recent killings. The least the government can do is make Jammu and Ladakh into one UT and separate Kashmir so that Jammu need not sleep with the flea ridden dog.
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Ambar wrote:I cannot imagine Ajit Doval agreeing to infiltration, targeted killing, drone intrusions etc. the experiment of trying to cajole hindus to take up jobs is effectively over after the recent killings. The least the government can do is make Jammu and Ladakh into one UT and separate Kashmir so that Jammu need not sleep with the flea ridden dog.
they have already altered the local demography substantially during the mehabooba days

the jehadis know how the game is played, the bad actors are here and the directors are across the border
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Well bakistan is short of electricity so 'shocks' might not be the most appropriate term.. maybe for H&D purposes they could have said Gormint raises price of cooking oil by about a dollar :mrgreen:

Yawn - Govt shocks consumers with Rs 213 per litre hike in cooking oil prices
The government on Tuesday shocked consumers by pushing up ghee and cooking oil rates by an unprecedented Rs 208 and Rs 213 to an all-time high of Rs 555 per kg and Rs 605 per litre, respectively, even though “these rates still do not exist in the retail markets.”

An official in the Utility Stores Corporation (USC) in Karachi confirmed to Dawn that the USC had issued a notification of this whooping jump in ghee and cooking oil rates effective June 1.
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And more from the land of the pure absurd..

Yawn- No offer of Russian oil, polls only after economy fixed: Miftah
Finance Minister Miftah Ismail said on Tuesday that Pakistan would buy oil and food from Russia at cheaper rates if it was offered and if it did not invoke sanctions against Islamabad. However, he clarified that so far, Moscow had not made such an offer. :lol:

In an interview to CNN’s Becky Anderson, Mr Ismail said that Moscow had not even responded to the previous government’s letter seeking to buy cheaper oil from Russia. :rotfl:
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I propose a new slogan to promote patriotism in Pakistan
Free Palestine from Israel!!
Free Cashmere from India!!
Free Oil from Russia!!
Free Money from IMF!!
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Anujan sir, what about their favorite 'Gandam'

So bakis are proudly declaring that they have sent aid to Ukraine, so Ukraine shoud respond in kind..

How about 'Free Gandam from Ukraine' hain..
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Manish_P wrote:And more from the land of the pure absurd..

Yawn- No offer of Russian oil, polls only after economy fixed: Miftah
Finance Minister Miftah Ismail said on Tuesday that Pakistan would buy oil and food from Russia at cheaper rates if it was offered and if it did not invoke sanctions against Islamabad. However, he clarified that so far, Moscow had not made such an offer. :lol:

In an interview to CNN’s Becky Anderson, Mr Ismail said that Moscow had not even responded to the previous government’s letter seeking to buy cheaper oil from Russia. :rotfl:



from the paki trubune, not quoting link purposely.

This is what the little paki IWT delegation schitts are really in India for, they know well that, as per the IWT, India is right and also legally covered in any dam building activity.

As usual, they have come abegging with katora in hand

per the pakis
"India is said to be eager to first resume trade and then other ties with Pakistan. New Delhi is willing to meet wheat shortage of Pakistan by entering into a government-to-government agreement".
Prime Minister Shehbaz in his maiden address to the nation on Friday asked India to reverse the August 5, 2019 actions so that both sides could engage in talks for the resolution of all outstanding issues, including Kashmir.

India, the sources said, is inclined to the re-engagement but reluctant to offer something that would help Pakistan resume the dialogue.

“Our policy is clear. We want to engage with everyone, including India,” said a senior member of the coalition government, while requesting anonymity. The government functionary, however, was sceptical if the hardline Narendra Modi government could show any flexibility on the issue of Kashmir.

The sources said that the Western powers, including the United States and the UK, were also pushing for defusing tension and opening some formal channels of communications between the two South Asian neighbours.
India is said to be eager to first resume trade and then other ties with Pakistan. New Delhi is willing to meet wheat shortage of Pakistan by entering into a government-to-government agreement.

India is one of the top 3 wheat producers in the world and Pakistan this season plans to import 4 million metric tons of wheat to meet its domestic shortage. Pakistan could import wheat from India on a much lower cost, given the less transportation and other logistic charges.
Pakistan is currently talking to Russia to import at least 2 million tons of wheat. The commodity price in the global market has shot due to Russia-Ukraine conflict. However, Pakistani officials are ruling out the possibility of importing wheat from India given the current status of bilateral ties.

In March 2021 Pakistan was about to partially restore trade ties with India, when the Economic Coordination Committee (ECC) of the cabinet approved the import of sugar and cotton from India. However, the proposal was shot down by the federal cabinet later, stating that no normal business with India would be conducted unless New Delhi restored the special status of Kashmir.

Those who favour the resumption of trade with India believe that this may lead to dialogue on Kashmir. But others say that normalising trade and commercial ties with India without seeking reversal of August 2019 actions would weaken Pakistani stance.
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India is indicating that it is not willing to budge if media reports are to be believed.
For India, trade and terror with Pakistan cannot go together
Pakistan PM Shehbaz Sharif's indication of resumption of trade with India, while not ceding an inch on Kashmir as a precursor to peace has a dual objective of addressing the extremists and the economic mess within the Islamic Republic. But the real goal of trade softener is to entice India to remove its opposition to Pakistan remaining on FATF's grey list at Paris Plenary this month.
While India has taken note of PM Sharif’s interview, it also understands the economic and political mess that Pakistan is in and how increased bilateral trade could help Islamabad’s economic recovery with Indian market having a large appetite for imports from Pakistan. However, the current political instability in Pakistan, with ousted PM Imran Khan Niazi, exiled leader Nawaz Sharif putting pressure on the Sharif government for an early general election with Pakistan Army remaining a neutral bystander, will hold back any Indian response.
Fact is that India is in no hurry to resume bilateral ties with Pakistan till such time Islamabad acts against terrorist groups like Jaish and Lashkar-e-Tayebba (LeT) which continue to wage Islamic jihad against minorities in Kashmir Valley in pursuit of Islamabad’s political aims. Even though Islamabad has told the global Financial Action Task Force (FATF) that it cannot locate Jaish terror kingpin Masood Azhar, the recent court action against LeT’s chief Hafeez Saeed is all part of the effort to get Pakistan off the Grey List in the Paris Plenary this month. For India, trade with Pakistan and terror cannot go together.
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Dilbu wrote:India is indicating that it is not willing to budge if media reports are to be believed.
For India, trade and terror with Pakistan cannot go together
Pakistan PM Shehbaz Sharif's indication of resumption of trade with India, while not ceding an inch on Kashmir as a precursor to peace has a dual objective of addressing the extremists and the economic mess within the Islamic Republic. But the real goal of trade softener is to entice India to remove its opposition to Pakistan remaining on FATF's grey list at Paris Plenary this month.
While India has taken note of PM Sharif’s interview, it also understands the economic and political mess that Pakistan is in and how increased bilateral trade could help Islamabad’s economic recovery with Indian market having a large appetite for imports from Pakistan. However, the current political instability in Pakistan, with ousted PM Imran Khan Niazi, exiled leader Nawaz Sharif putting pressure on the Sharif government for an early general election with Pakistan Army remaining a neutral bystander, will hold back any Indian response.
Fact is that India is in no hurry to resume bilateral ties with Pakistan till such time Islamabad acts against terrorist groups like Jaish and Lashkar-e-Tayebba (LeT) which continue to wage Islamic jihad against minorities in Kashmir Valley in pursuit of Islamabad’s political aims. Even though Islamabad has told the global Financial Action Task Force (FATF) that it cannot locate Jaish terror kingpin Masood Azhar, the recent court action against LeT’s chief Hafeez Saeed is all part of the effort to get Pakistan off the Grey List in the Paris Plenary this month. For India, trade with Pakistan and terror cannot go together.
especially with the targeted killings of cashmeri Hindus in J&K, no way India is going to do any trade with these porkis

and for IWT, India has already said a long time ago, that blood and water cannot flow together.

But, then again, the britshits and the amerikis have been pressurising India for quite sometime now, to somehow accommodate the pakis in granting liberal visas for jehadis, unrestricted and open trade via wagah, and cashmere borders, settle cashmere, meaning hand it over to the pakis, and then, new separatist chapters can be started for handing over hyderabad and junagadh.

for the britshits and the amerikis, it is a case of our father's nothing goes, so let us create some chaos in India and keep them off balance
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Manish_P wrote:And more from the land of the pure absurd..

Yawn- No offer of Russian oil, polls only after economy fixed: Miftah
Finance Minister Miftah Ismail said on Tuesday that Pakistan would buy oil and food from Russia at cheaper rates if it was offered and if it did not invoke sanctions against Islamabad. However, he clarified that so far, Moscow had not made such an offer. :lol:

In an interview to CNN’s Becky Anderson, Mr Ismail said that Moscow had not even responded to the previous government’s letter seeking to buy cheaper oil from Russia. :rotfl:
Porkis are day dreaming to get cheap Russian oil but the Abduls and Ayeshas are clueless that the outdated Pakistani refinery simply does not have the capability to process the heavier Russian crude :rotfl:
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1692602
PTI Chairman Imran Khan on Wednesday admitted he did not enjoy absolute power as the prime minister, indicating that the actual centres of power in the country lay elsewhere and "everyone knows where that is."

"Our hands were tied. We were blackmailed from everywhere. Power wasn't with us. Everyone knows where the power lies in Pakistan so we had to rely on them," he said without elaborating any further who he was referring to.

"We relied on them all the time. They did a lot of good things too but they didn't do many things that should've been done. They have the power because they control institutions such as NAB (National Accountability Bureau), which wasn't in our control."
:rotfl:

I thought everyone was neutral according to the Bajwa doctrine and the Boys were a big supporter of democracy?

The PTI chief said the current political situation was a problem for the country as well as the establishment. "If the establishment doesn't make the right decisions then I can assure in writing that [before everyone else] they and the army will be destroyed because what will become of the country if it goes bankrupt," he said.
A wise man once said "Every country has an Army, in Pakistan the Army has a Country". Kaptaan is saying "If Pakistan goes bankrupt, who will pay for your plots hainji?"
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Ok here it is folks. It is all a RAA konspiracy.
Pakistan to break into three parts if establishment does not take 'right decision', says Imran Khan
PTI Chairman Imran Khan warned on Wednesday that if the establishment does not "take the right decision" then Pakistan would break into "three parts".

In an interview with a private television channel, the ousted prime minister said the country is on the brink of "suicide" if "right decisions" are not taken, as it might move towards default.

"The actual problem here is of Pakistan and establishment. If the establishment does not take the right decision, then I will give it to you in writing that they will be destroyed, and the armed forces will be the first ones to be destroyed," he told the interviewer.
The former premier warned that once the country is destroyed, it will default, and the international world will ask Pakistan to move towards denuclearisation — as Ukraine did in the 1990s.

"Indian think tanks abroad :twisted: are mulling to separate Balochistan, they have plans, this is why I am putting pressure," the ousted premier said, without mentioning who he is pressurising.

Moving on, the ex-premier claimed that the coalition government would please the United States "in all ways", as PML-N supremo Nawaz Sharif and PPP Co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari always worked to make the nexus of America, India, and Israel "happy".
The ex-premier claimed India did not like him in power as he wanted an independent foreign policy.
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India agrees to do more chai-biskoot sessions. Babus will bring parle-g and kurkure for the next meeting.
India ‘willing to discuss’ Pak water objections
ISLAMABAD: India on Tuesday expressed its willingness to discuss Pakistan’s outstanding objections on hydroelectric projects on the western rivers as both sides concluded the meeting of the Permanent Indus Commission (PIC) in New Delhi on Tuesday.

Under the provision of the 1960 World Bank-brokered Indus Waters Treaty, the two sides meet alternatively in Pakistan and India annually. However, this year the meeting in New Delhi was followed by an earlier visit by the India Indus Commission to Islamabad in March.

The Permanent Indus Commission continues to meet regularly except during the Covid-19 pandemic despite otherwise simmering tensions between the two countries.
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For once I want Imran Khan words to come true as soon as possible. Denuclearized Pakis and Divided into 3.

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Ambar wrote:It is still nowhere near what IMF had asked for. With a Rs 30 per litre hike, the new price per litre of petrol will be ~Rs 180 PKR/litre or roughly around Rs 69/litre INR ! India hasn't seen petrol prices in the 60s since mid-2019, goes to show how much Pakistan subsidizes fuel . Even the Rs 30 hike apparently will be in phases, meaning this is just window dressing to get IMF to release the first tranche.
Misfit Ismail, the al baki finance minister announced 2nd round of increase on petrol prices. The new retail price after 2 hikes is as follow -

Petrol - Rs209.86 PKR or Rs 82 INR
Diesel - Rs 204 PKR or Rs 80 INR

Incredible that just until 10 days ago Pakis were selling a liter of petrol at INR Rs 56 and a liter of diesel at below Rs 50 INR. As a comparison that was the price per liter in India in 2008 and we haven't seen that number in 14 yrs ! No wonder these guys went broke !
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It is pertinent to enquire who buys petrol in Pakistan.

The country is run akin to a feudal estate. Haiti had a similar model under Papa Doc and many others.

It’s fortuitous that the avaam is more concerned with Kashmir, jihad, Hindus.
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Well, they've been selling it all this while at Rs 56 inr, so at such attractive prices it becomes affordable to even a lot of ankle-length shalwar wearing pious mujahids with their 65 cc chinese 2-wheelers and the middle class with their 12th hand imported obsolete japanese cars .
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Ambar wrote:...

Incredible that just until 10 days ago Pakis were selling a liter of petrol at INR Rs 56 and a liter of diesel at below Rs 50 INR. As a comparison that was the price per liter in India in 2008 and we haven't seen that number in 14 yrs ! No wonder these guys went broke !
What's also incredible is that the usual spin in India about how Bakis kept the prices low for the masses as long as possible... and the Mudi sud rejine... is missing

I guess together they have the more than single brain cell between the lot of them
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Ambar wrote:Well, they've been selling it all this while at Rs 56 inr, so at such attractive prices it becomes affordable to even a lot of ankle-length shalwar wearing pious mujahids with their 65 cc chinese 2-wheelers and the middle class with their 12th hand imported obsolete japanese cars .
It is very easy to convert- but have you plotted the price movements in PKR over the last 8 years, it has probably moved from Rs. 90 to 200, Such artificially low prices only lead longer term destruction- it leads to erosion of currency value and No capex for better refining equipment etc.

Ultimately its like feeding ones body with sugary drinks in a day and then complaining when a person gets diabetes.

In India have prices have been higher than ideal but that is going to be case till we move to Hybrids and EV's. But some states Like Andhra Pradesh, Rajastan, Maharastra and Telegnana having exhorbitanly high rates of State VAT. Cheap Petrol and Diesel will only lead to a disaster in India but it needs to be balanced not be too high and resultant inflationary pressures.

Pakistan always had 3.5 friends and never had to depend on itself to work hard and generate Income. Before Demonetization they were living on fake Indian currency as a form of Jiziya.

Look at Demo, almost all of genuine currency came back back in and immediately RBI had to print more Indian Currency because void filled by Paki printed currency had to filled up. How is that after Demo both Digital and cash currency printed by RBI increased- did the Indian Economy suddenly grow by 40%- No it was just that huge % of Paki printed FICN's disaapeared- but no one is going to tell anyone that especially in Media.
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Quite Frankly, inspite of propaganda, the Paki fauj and Army have a tight control of weapons in Afghanistan and Pakistan, none of the Dera Ismail khan stuff works in real life. No stingers were ever fired at the Americans. Its only imported and Licensed Produced weaponry with Imported Raw material in Paki OFB which works.

Reason why American largesse of 42000 vehicles and assorted weapons don't work in Afghanistan there is no real ecosystem who can repair, produce spare parts and maintain such goods in Pakistan or Afghanistan. From Engineering Colleges to dedicated people with work ethics, women are locked up in thier houses just cook and produce babies.

such a society only thrives on 2 things 1) Jazziya from Kafir and 2) wage a war to loot from Kaffir.

I am of the opinion Pakistan is going to try something spectacular soon, I hope the powers that be in India are ready and not caught with thier pants down again like Pulwama .
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https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/4 ... uel-crisis

40,000 Factories At Risk Of Closing In Pakistan's Commercial Capital Amid Fuel Crisis

Pakistan faces potential economic collapse as inflation jumps and widespread civil unrest could be nearing. The latest sign the South Asian country is spiraling into the abyss is rising electricity costs that threaten to close tens of thousands of businesses.....
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Fuming is not enough from rakkit mards but then to burn the KFC also jou need to be able to buy some petrol hainji?
Commoners fume at fuel price hike
LAHORE: People from various walks of life, especially the salaried class, have expressed anger over another massive increase of Rs30 in the per litre petrol and diesel rates by the government and said the decision might lead to limiting their mobility and routine business.

They also urged the government to immediately withdraw the decision.
Last week, the transport operators raised fares by 20 per cent on all inter-city and intra-city routes across the province. The Pakistan Railways (PR) too is likely to increase fares on all passenger and freight trains by 20 to 30pc.

Last week, the Punjab Mass Transit Authority also reached a consensus to introduce a distance-based fare instead of a flat one (subsidised fare of Rs40) for those travelling in the Lahore Orange Line train keeping in view the increasing electricity cost during the last and present government’s tenures.

Following a 20pc increase in the prices of the petroleum products, last week the retailers also raised the prices of fruits, vegetables and other commodities in the open market. Similarly, another increase of Rs30 per litre on Friday would also lead to hike in the prices of daily commodities.
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Isn't there an indefinite ceasefire in place with TTP?
Army soldier martyred in North Waziristan check-post attack
A Pakistan Army soldier embraced martyrdom following an attack on a check-post by terrorists in North Waziristan, Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa late Wednesday, the military said.

In a statement on Thursday, the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said the terrorists fired at a military post located in the area.
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rajkumar wrote:https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/4 ... uel-crisis

40,000 Factories At Risk Of Closing In Pakistan's Commercial Capital Amid Fuel Crisis

Pakistan faces potential economic collapse as inflation jumps and widespread civil unrest could be nearing. The latest sign the South Asian country is spiraling into the abyss is rising electricity costs that threaten to close tens of thousands of businesses.....
Not bad they 40,000 factories
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Aditya_V wrote:
rajkumar wrote:https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/4 ... uel-crisis

40,000 Factories At Risk Of Closing In Pakistan's Commercial Capital Amid Fuel Crisis

Pakistan faces potential economic collapse as inflation jumps and widespread civil unrest could be nearing. The latest sign the South Asian country is spiraling into the abyss is rising electricity costs that threaten to close tens of thousands of businesses.....
Not bad they 40,000 factories
Aditya ji, factory in Bakistan means a small hole-in-the-wall unit with one owner, his 2-3 inbred sons, their 2-3 equally inbred coujjins.... using stolen electricity (when available) & illegal water connection (bought from the water mafia)
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Hostile forces targeting CPEC progress: Chinese envoy
ISLAMABAD: Chinese envoy and Pakistani leaders on Thursday warned of growing threats to China-Pakistan Economic Corridor from fake news and disinformation about the mega-development project and emphasised the need for cooperation in countering it.

The issue was highlighted at the 7th CPEC Media Forum, which was jointly hosted by the Chinese Embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan-China Institute, and China Economic Net, where the speakers talked about the potential of propaganda, misinformation and fake news to polarise public opinion, promote violent extremism and undermine the development project.
In an apparent reference to growing attacks against Chinese personnel and projects in Pakistan by the Baloch separatists, Mr Ashraf suggested that extremist and ethnic elements could be exploited to sabotage the project.

He, therefore, called for reaching out to the local communities to address their grievances as they could fall for the vicious anti-CPEC propaganda.

Chinese chargé d’affaires Pang Chunxue also spoke of the seriousness of this challenge.
She was more specific about who was behind the fake news and propaganda campaigns against CPEC.

Mentioning the strategic alliances formed by the US to contain China — Quad, which is a group of US, Australia, India and Japan; Aukus, which is a trilateral security pact between Australia, UK, and US; and Indo-Pacific Economic Framework — she said they were targeting China and undermining its efforts for promoting peace and development in the world.

“CPEC cannot progress well in the world full of cold war mentality,” the Chinese diplomat added while reminding about the impact of the global environment on it.
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Dilbu wrote:Isn't there an indefinite ceasefire in place with TTP?
Army soldier martyred in North Waziristan check-post attack
A Pakistan Army soldier embraced martyrdom following an attack on a check-post by terrorists in North Waziristan, Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa late Wednesday, the military said.

In a statement on Thursday, the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said the terrorists fired at a military post located in the area.

The TTP ceasefire was over some months ago. It's not been renewed.
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Pratyush wrote:The TTP ceasefire was over some months ago. It's not been renewed.
No sir. It was renewed.
TTP confirms ceasefire, Fata merger still sticking point
PESHAWAR: The outlawed Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) formally announced an “indefinite ceasefire” with the government late on Thursday night, following two days of intense talks with a grand tribal jirga in Kabul.

A statement issued by the TTP spokesman, Muham­mad Khurasani, said that substantive progress had been made in talks with the grand jirga of “Pashtun nation, particularly tribal elders and ulema”.
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This is then a new ceasefire. Because the previous one was for a period of 3 months and it was over a long time ago.

Anyway, TSP will be getting digested from within over the next few years.
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It is an extension of old ceasefire. However TTP has been demanding the reversal of Fata’s merger with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. May be this small phyrring is a reminder for that.
Islamabad, TTP agree on indefinite ceasefire
PESHAWAR: The government of Pakistan and the outlawed Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) have agreed to extend the ceasefire, this time, indefinitely and continue negotiations to find an end to the nearly two decades of militancy in the tribal border region, it has been reliably learnt.

The extension in ceasefire, which was to come to an end last night, indicates significant progress in talks between the two sides in the Afghan capital Kabul, sources familiar with the development said.
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Jihadistan lives purely on extensions... loan extension, aid extension, army chief tenure extension, ceasefire extension....
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Manish_P wrote:Jihadistan lives purely on extensions... loan extension, aid extension, army chief tenure extension, ceasefire extension....
Also Benis extension.. AOA.
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1692749
Don't dare to cross limits': Prime Minister Shehbaz warns Imran against talking about Pakistan breaking apart
Nadir Gurmani,June 2, 2022

Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif censured his predecessor Imran Khan on Thursday, accusing him of "making naked threats against the country", deeming him "unfit for public office" and warning him against "talking about [the] division of Pakistan".
The prime minister made these remarks in a Twitter post that referred to an interview of Imran with anchorperson Sami Abraham for Bol News programme 'Tajzia' last night during which the PTI chief urged the establishment to make the "right decisions" and warned that if Pakistan were to lose its nuclear deterrence, it would fragment into "three pieces".
In the interview aired Wednesday night, he said the current political situation was a problem for the country as well as the establishment. "If the establishment doesn't make the right decisions then I can assure [you] in writing that [before everyone else] they and the army will be destroyed because what will become of the country if it goes bankrupt," he said.
"Pakistan is going towards a default. If that happens then which institution will be [worst] hit? The army. After it is hit, what concession will be taken from us? Denuclearisation," he said. "If the right decisions aren't made at this time then the country is going towards suicide."
Hours after the interview was broadcast, PM Shehbaz tweeted: "While I am in Turkey inking agreements, Imran Niazi is making naked threats against the country. If at all any proof was needed that Niazi is unfit for public office, his latest interview suffices."
"Do your politics but don't dare to cross limits and talk about [the] division of Pakistan," he warned the PTI chairperson.
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Why just three? Sindhu Desh, Baluchistan, POK + Gilgit B, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and more are good candidates, leaving Pakistan as just the land locked West Punjab.
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Here you go... a super mix of lahori logic, sialkoti statistics and abbotabad arithmetic

Maybe all pakis can give up each fridin salary and pay off all debts one by one

Yawn - Petrol subsidy
PASS on the increase in international oil prices to the consumers — this is the textbook solution. Prices increased due to the war in Ukraine. A war-based, rather than a textbook, solution is called for.

The IMF gave us funds, without us asking for it, (technically we did'nt ask, we literally begged.. :lol: ) to fight the Covid-imposed recession. As it was a global problem, it did not raise concerns about our subsidies meant to check poverty and amnesties meant to whiten money.

Despite the global rise in oil rates, the inc­rease is considered a local problem because many countries are rich enough to take the hit. As there is no sympathy for a stimulus or subsidy (IMF doesn't have a big heart like us.. :(( ) , we must find a local solution.

How about the entire formal-sector labour force contributing one day’s salary to the national exchequer? The salary budget for civilian federal government employees over 10 months of FY2022 (July to April) has been around Rs245 billion. This is roughly Rs 25 bn per month and Rs 833 million per day. The monthly subsidy on petrol before the hike of Rs 60 was projected to be close to Rs150 m.Thus, just one day’s salary of federal government employees should be enough to cover subsidy expenditure of over five months. Add to it the salaries of the armed forces (wajib-ul-kutlet :mrgreen:), employees of the provincial governments and those working in autonomous bodies, and we easily have much more than the annual expenditure on petroleum subsidy.
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Manish_P wrote:Here you go... a super mix of lahori logic, sialkoti statistics and abbotabad arithmetic

Maybe all pakis can give up each fridin salary and pay off all debts one by one

Yawn - Petrol subsidy

How about the entire formal-sector labour force contributing one day’s salary to the national exchequer? .
Yawns site says https://www.dawn.com/news/1689564
Fuel subsidy to cost govt Rs75bn over next fortnight
This mujahid says
The salary budget for civilian federal government employees over 10 months of FY2022 (July to April) has been around Rs245 billion. This is roughly Rs 25 bn per month and Rs 833 million per day. The monthly subsidy on petrol before the hike of Rs 60 was projected to be close to Rs150 m.Thus, just one day’s salary of federal government employees should be enough to cover subsidy expenditure of over five months.

:shock: :mrgreen:
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