Terroristan - March 31, 2022

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 07 Sep 2022 13:17

Five soldiers martyred in N Waziristan operation

RAWALPINDI: Five security personnel embraced martyrdom during an intense exchange of fire with terrorists in the North Waziristan district, the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said in a statement on Monday.

The ISPR, the media wing of the military, said that two separate intelligence-based operations (IBOs) were carried out in the general areas of Boyya and Mir Ali of the district in which five terrorists, including a terrorist commander, were killed.

According to the ISPR, during the IBO in Boyya, intense exchange of fire took place between the troops and terrorists. It added that the troops effectively engaged the terrorists’ location and killed four terrorists.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 08 Sep 2022 10:44

Biden admin reverses Trump's decision, approves USD 450 mn F-16 fleet sustainment programme to Pakistan

Washington: Reversing the decision of its predecessor, the Biden Administration has approved a whooping USD 450 million F-16 fighter jet fleet sustainment programme to Pakistan.

As a notification to the US Congress, the State Department has made a determination approving a possible foreign military sale of F-16 case for sustainment and related equipment for an estimated cost of USD 450 million, arguing that this will sustain Islamabad's capability to meet current and future counterterrorism threats by maintaining its F-16 fleet.

This is the first major security assistance to Pakistan after Trump in 2018 had announced to stop all defense and security assistance to Pakistan alleging that Islamabad was not a partner in its fight against terrorism.

"The United States Government has notified Congress of a proposed Foreign Military Sales case to sustain the Pakistan Air Force's F-16 programme. Pakistan is an important counterterrorism partner, and as part of longstanding policy, the United States provides life cycle maintenance and sustainment packages for US-origin platforms," a State Department spokesperson said.

"Pakistan's F-16 programme is an important part of the broader United States-Pakistan bilateral relationship. The proposed sale will sustain Pakistan's capability to meet current and future counterterrorism threats by maintaining its F-16 fleet. The F-16 fleet allows Pakistan to support counterterrorism operations and we expect Pakistan to take sustained action against all terrorist groups," the spokesperson further said in response to a question.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 11 Sep 2022 13:01

https://www.geo.tv/latest/439365-indian ... n-pakistan
Amazon India ordered to take down Rooh Afza manufactured in Pakistan
Web Desk, Sep 10 2022
Hamdard National Foundation, the Indian manufacturer of Rooh Afza, filed a case saying Pakistan-manufactured Rooh Afza was being sold in India through Amazon after which the Delhi High Court asked the e-commerce site to remove the listings, reported the Indian Express.
Rooh Afza is a famed drink that people in India have been consuming for over 100 years now. The court found it surprising that its imported version was being sold on Amazon, that too without disclosure of the manufacturer's details.
Justice Prathiba M Singh ordered the removal of the "listings of infringing ‘Rooh Afza’ products" from http://www.amazon.in within 48 hours on Wednesday.
First introduced by Hakim Hafiz Abdul Majeed in Delhi over a century ago, Rooh Afza got divided after the partition when Hakim's elder son moved to India and the younger chose Pakistan.
Right now, Hamdard National Foundation has the rights over the drink in India and in Pakistan Hamdard Laboratories (Waqf) manufactures it.
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Gautam
During my stay in India, from November 2021- February 2022, I found that Shan Masala packets being sold freely through Amazon India. The packets did not however explicitly state that they were manufactured in Pakistan. However, Shan is manufactured only in Pakistan and nowhere else. This is still going on and should be stopped ASAP.
See: https://www.amazon.in/s?k=shan+masala&c ... -doa-p_2_5

Vips · Post by **Vips** » 11 Sep 2022 21:46

Chinese firm abandons Neelum-Jhelum hydropower project in Pakistan.

The Chinese engineers and staff have abandoned their repair of the mega 969-megawatt Neelum-Jhelum hydropower project in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir which is shut down since early July this year after Pakistan faced a continuous shortage of fuel and electricity.

The Chinese have given the excuses of local protests over the plant and the failure of the Pakistan police to offer credible security, however, China's sudden reversal of the project has created a major rift between Pakistan and and China over joint hydropower projects.

The plant is located near Muzaffarabad in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir and the Chinese engineers were working to unblock a crucial tunnel.

The hydropower project worth Rs 508 billion saw a sudden halt within three years of its operation, exposing serious differences between Pakistand Chinese authorities over joint projects, particularly the Dasu and Mohmand power projects besides the Neelum-Jhelum plant, Islam Khabar reported.

A 3.5 km long tunnel that diverted water from the plant to the river developed a serious fault and forced a complete shutdown of the plant, at a time when the country was faced with a serious power crisis. The major cracks in the tailrace tunnel forced the authorities to shut down the project.

The Water and Power Development Authority (Wapda), which operates hydropower stations, later also confirmed that the project's "tailrace tunnel has been blocked and as a result, the power station has been closed for safety reasons".

The Pakistani authorities blame the Chinese for project slippages and inefficient operations. The Chinese, on the other hand, have their own complaints of delayed payments which they cite as the main cause of the delays, Islam Khabar reported.

WAPDA had pointed out in meetings with the Chinese company officials about slow progress despite time extensions, substandard construction quality, and poor supervision and management.

On the question of tunnel failure, the WAPDA had accused the Chinese of inefficiency at the stage of tunnelling which caused a delay in blocking the ingress of river water into the damaged tunnel.

The failure of the plant also brought to the fore the issue of the security of Chinese nationals working on Pakistani projects.

After the power plant came to a grinding halt in July, the contractor of the project, China Gezhouba Group Company (CGGC), agreed to repair and restore the tunnel without an official agreement.

On July 10, the Chinese firm mobilised equipment and manpower to empty the tunnel of water to identify the cause of the blockage. The company said the entire restoration process would take at least six months, during which the plant would remain shut. It sought PKR 120 million from the Neelum Jhelum Hydropower Corporation as interest-free financial support for the job.

However, not satisfied with the Chinese offer, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on July 13 issued directions to hire best international consultants to ascertain the cause of excessive water leakage in the powerhouse and pressure in the tailrace tunnel, evaluate the structural strength of underground works, identify lapses in design/construction which caused the blockage, suggest remedial measures, and provide technical assistance to NJHPC in preparing and pursuing the insurance claim.

But the Prime Minister's Office was persuaded to review its directive on the pretext that it would take a long time to hire international consultants and firms to identify the causes of tunnel failure and find a suitable solution to make the plant operational.

It is not known where the pressure came from-Chinese supporters in the bureaucracy or the Pakistan Army. In the end, the Chinese firm was, once again, engaged to carry out the repair and restore the blocked tunnel.

However, within a few days of the operation to dewater the tunnel, the Chinese firm had to stop its operations and demobilise its workforce after local residents disrupted the work in protest. The local residents had been protesting over the hydroelectric projects since 2018. They have several grouses-inequitable share of power, royalty, employment and environmental destruction.

The hydropower plant, completed at an estimated approved cost of about Rs508bn, became functional in August 2018 and has a capacity of producing around 1,500 MW of electricity.The project's construction was taken in hand in 2002 after 21 years of delay and completed in April 2018 -- again with repeated cost overruns and missed deadlines, the Dawn reported.

Major construction involving about 58 kilometres of tunnels was done by Chinese contractor CGGC-CMEC (Gezhouba Group), hired in December 2007.

Bart S · Post by **Bart S** » 12 Sep 2022 00:02

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ci6HTr30NY

After aggressive begging for aid was largely ignored, Pakistan's new 'narrative' is that they only contribute 1% of global emissions, so the world owes them damages and should waive off all Pakistani debt.

Highlights of the above video:
UN Sec Gen who visited Pakistan is going to fight Pakistan's case (could be true as he seems to be a rabid India-hater)
Paki PM should plan for an extended stay at the UN GA meet in order to whine and bitch to all world leaders and aggressively demand more
Pakistan should demand for full waiver and 'write-off' of all loans
The guy is a PhD and professor at a Paki university, but thinks that write-off of loans means rescheduling them.

He also wants Pakistan to reach out to Greta Thunburg for her help

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 12 Sep 2022 00:58

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... isis-cop27
Rich countries caused Pakistan’s catastrophic flooding. Their response? Inertia and apathy
Mustafa Nawaz Khokar, Mon 5 Sep 2022
If Cop27 fails to bring the major polluters to heel, the global south will be forced to act on its own
Mustafa Nawaz Khokar is a senator in Pakistan
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Gautam

Seems like Mustafa Nawaz Khokar has not read his Pakistani textbooks...
Everything happens due to the will of Allah. Why blame kafir rich countries?

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 12 Sep 2022 01:01

Dilbu wrote:Five soldiers martyred in N Waziristan operation

If only they had the F-16 sustainability package from the US earlier, their faujis would not be martyred. Hence US needs to do more!

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 12 Sep 2022 06:10

One thing I admire the pakis is that they are all on message.

Now everyone is on message that Pakistan needs to be compensated for climate change.

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 12 Sep 2022 09:08

Especially if its the message to get the money from others. There all Pakistan from media to government departments to politicians to fauj to the people on the road, all sing in unison. Same message at all levels. Trying to get freebies is now in the DNA of Pakis.

Flood damage was $10Bn, it became $18Bn and now Pakis have started to quote $30bn.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 13 Sep 2022 06:30

Bart S wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ci6HTr30NY

After aggressive begging for aid was largely ignored, Pakistan's new 'narrative' is that they only contribute 1% of global emissions, so the world owes them damages and should waive off all Pakistani debt.

Highlights of the above video:
UN Sec Gen who visited Pakistan is going to fight Pakistan's case (could be true as he seems to be a rabid India-hater)
Paki PM should plan for an extended stay at the UN GA meet in order to whine and bitch to all world leaders and aggressively demand more
Pakistan should demand for full waiver and 'write-off' of all loans
The guy is a PhD and professor at a Paki university, but thinks that write-off of loans means rescheduling them.
He also wants Pakistan to reach out to Greta Thunburg for her help

Surprised he didn’t harp on the nuclear peril.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 13 Sep 2022 11:07

I am sure Bakis lost some nukes or missiles in there strategic depth that is Baluchistan. Flooding was so complete .

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 13 Sep 2022 12:32

rsingh wrote:I am sure Bakis lost some nukes or missiles in there strategic depth that is Baluchistan. Flooding was so complete .

perhaps a certain F-16 as well ?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 13 Sep 2022 12:57

Nothing of any value will be kept in Baluchistan and certainly not where the land could get flooded

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 13 Sep 2022 16:33

Sounds fishy.why would USA give 450 million for maintaince of eff solar. Pressing issue was floods. I think the birds were flooded and need overall cleaning. Wait and see.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 13 Sep 2022 18:48

https://news.abplive.com/news/india/pm- ... an-1552408
PM Modi, Shehbaz Sharif Meeting Unlikely During SCO Summit In Uzbekistan
Highly informed sources in the government told ABP News that there will be no bilateral talks between PM Narendra Modi and Shahbaz Sharif during the SCO summit.
ABP News Bureau, 08 Sep 2022
Amidst all the speculation ahead of the SCO summit, ABP News has learned that bilateral talks between the Prime Ministers of India and Pakistan are unlikely to take place during the SCO summit to be held in Uzbekistan soon. Highly informed sources in the government told ABP News that there will be no bilateral talks between PM Narendra Modi and Shahbaz Sharif during the SCO summit.
Sources have even claimed that the request from Pakistan in this regard has not even come to India. Although there is a possibility of a courtesy meeting between PM Modi and Sharif, also known as a bridge-aside meet. However, it will depend on the two leaders' own stand and whether all the leaders sit under one roof.
In the past too, PM Modi had an informal bridge-side meeting with former Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on the sidelines of the SCO summit.
After Shahbaz Sharif became the Prime Minister of Pakistan, PM Modi had congratulated him through a formal letter. However, the Prime Minister in his letter had also demanded action against terrorism to create an atmosphere of dialogue between India and Pakistan.
On the other hand, the Sharif once again chanted the Kashmir melody on the completion of three years of the removal of Article 370 from the Valley.
India-Pakistan relations have been at their lowest since 2019, when the PM Modi-led NDA government at the Centre abolished Article 370 and 35A that changed the special status of Jammu and Kashmir.
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Gautam

partha · Post by **partha** » 13 Sep 2022 23:59

rsingh wrote:Sounds fishy.why would USA give 450 million for maintaince of eff solar. Pressing issue was floods. I think the birds were flooded and need overall cleaning. Wait and see.

Ammunition from Pakistan's ordinance factories were found in Ukraine. My guess is US is routing weapons to Ukraine via Pakistan. A major chunk of these millions or even all of it may be for supplying arms to Ukraine.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 14 Sep 2022 00:51

Three soldiers martyred in exchange of fire with terrorists across Pak-Afghan border: ISPR

Three Pakistan Army soldiers were martyred in an exchange of fire with terrorists across the Pakistan-Afghanistan border in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’s Kurram district on Tuesday, the military’s media affairs wing said in a statement.

According to the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), terrorists inside Afghanistan opened fire on Pakistani troops in the general area of Kharlachi. Pakistan Army troops responded in a “befitting manner”, it said.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 14 Sep 2022 00:55

This incident and the one above are connected to TTP.
Swat blast claims five lives, including peace committee member: police

A peace committee member and his police guards were among five people who lost their lives in a “remote controlled” blast in Swat’s Bara Bandai area on Tuesday, according to the police.

The apparent target was identified as Idrees Khan, a member of a “peace committee” — or village defence committees — which were constituted across Swat after the Taliban took control of the area between 2007 and 2009. As per locals, the members of these committees fought against Taliban militants to protect their villages and union councils.

Swat Station House Officer (SHO) Fayaz Khan told Dawn.com that preliminary investigations suggested today’s attack was a “remote control bomb” which targeted Idrees.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 14 Sep 2022 13:55

https://www.dawn.com/news/1710019/no-pl ... di-meeting
No plans for Shehbaz-Modi meeting
Iftikhar A. Khan, September 14, 2022
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif has no plans to meet his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) being held in Samarkand, Uzbekistan on September 15 and 16.
“No meeting is envisaged with the Indian prime minister,” Foreign Office spokesman Asim Iftikhar told Dawn.
An official, when contacted, said though a brief courtesy meeting between the two was possible, they would not be holding talks saying none of the two sides have sought a meeting. The foreign office in a statement, however, confirmed that Prime Minister Sharif would attend the 22nd annual Meeting of the Council of Heads of State (CHS) of SCO.
“Besides attending the summit, the prime minister will hold bilateral meetings with other participating leaders on the sidelines of the CHS,” it said.
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Gautam

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 14 Sep 2022 18:28

Wonder if BBC UK will show this.. in UKistan

Title - 1 Husband, 4 Wives, 23 Children and a flood of sorrow

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 14 Sep 2022 20:06

What is this about? Yet another dog and pony show to blame Afghanistan?
Islamabad asks Kabul to arrest Masood Azhar

ISLAMABAD: In an unusual development, Islamabad has formally written a letter to Kabul for locating reporting and arresting, Maulana Masood Azhar, the founding head of a banned religio-militant organization, Jaish E Mohammad (JEM).

“We have written a one-page letter to Afghan Foreign Ministry, asking them to locate, report and arrest Masood Azhar, as we believe that he is hiding somewhere in Afghanistan,” a top official privy to the development directly, told this correspondent while requesting anonymity.

The Foreign Office spokesman, when approached for comment, avoided to say anything on this development. The one-page letter has also pointed out Nangarhar and Kunar provinces where Masood Azhar is likely to be hiding.

It is not confirmed so far that whether Masood moved to Afghanistan before Taliban’s takeover of Kabul since August 15,2021 or after that. The sources claimed Masood Azhar’s hiding in Afghanistan has also been communicated to the 15-members Financial Action Task Force (FATF) team that concluded its five-day trip to Islamabad.

Islamabad had formally banned JEM on terrorism charges since January 14,2002 during the rule of Gen Musharraf. After 17 years of ban on JEM, the Interior Ministry, after receiving credible intelligence, banned two more organisations namely Al-Rehmat Trust, Bahawalpur and Al-Furqan Trust, Karachi, on May 10,2019.

And here is the response.
Taliban say Jaish-e-Mohammad chief not in Afghanistan

A spokesperson for the “Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan” has denied that Pakistan has demanded the handover of Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) chief Maulana Masood Azhar from Kabul.

“We’ve also seen this news in the media. But this is not true. Nobody has made such a demand from us,” said Zabihullah Mujahid in an interview with Afghanistan’s ToloNews a day after a section of the Pakistani media reported that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has written a letter to Kabul’s new rulers seeking custody of Maulana Masood Azhar.

According to the letter, Azhar has been hiding somewhere in the eastern Afghan province of Nangarhar.

“Jaish-e-Mohammad chief is not in Afghanistan. Such organisations can operate on Pakistan’s soil – and even under official patronage,” Mujahid added. “We’ll not allow anyone to use Afghanistan’s soil against any other country.”

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 14 Sep 2022 20:15

So it was a proper clash between TSP and Afghanistan that took place.
Taliban confirm 'tensions' on border with Pakistan

KABUL:The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (IEA) confirmed on Wednesday that the IEA and Pakistani military were involved in a clash along the international border.

According to IEA Deputy Spokesperson Bilal Karimi, the clashes took place in Dand Patan area in Afghanistan’s Paktia province. Karimi said on Twitter that military facilities, “in principle”, should not be built close to the Durand Line. He further said that a day earlier, the "Pakistani military sought to build an outpost there."

“Some Islamic Emirate members went to talk to them, but Pakistani soldiers opened fire which caused casualties,” the spokesperson added.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 15 Sep 2022 02:26

https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news ... iris-death
‘Biden’s F-16 deal with Pak linked to Zawahiri’s death’
Abhinandan Mishra, September 10, 2022
NEW DELHI: The decision of the Joe Biden administration to give $450 million worth “sustainment” and “related equipment” for F-16 fighter jets that Pakistan has been maintaining since the 1980s is being seen as a recognition of Pakistan Army’s effort to help the Biden administration in generating crucial domestic goodwill by way of helping them eliminate Al-Qaeda chief Ayaman Al Zawahiri.
This is being seen as the first step towards Biden opening up more avenues of “military-security cooperation” with Pakistan in the coming months. Observers of the bilateral relations between the two countries (the US and Pakistan) believe that this surprising move by Biden, which reverses the decision taken by his predecessor Donald Trump in January 2018 to freeze all security-related assistance to Pakistan, has also, in effect, closed the doors to efforts by LockHeed Martin, which produces these F-16 fighter jets, to sell the F-21 aircraft to the Indian Air Force (IAF), which is looking for a seller for its mega deal of 114 Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) that will cost Rs 1.5 lakh crore.
LockHeed Martin, which is desperately looking to clinch this deal with India—which it needs to offset its losses and dip in revenue—has offered that it will not sell the F-21 to any other country if it gets the order and has also promised to shift the production of F-16 to India. Official sources in New Delhi told The Sunday Guardian that the sudden announcement came even as the relationship between the US and Pakistan was not “normal”, thereby indicating that the decision, in all probability, was taken as a sort of “quid-pro-quo”.
On 31 July, Ayman Al-Zawahiri, the chief of Al-Qaeda, was killed in a US-executed drone strike even as he was strolling in his balcony in a highly secure Sherpur area in Kabul, Afghanistan. Sources in Taliban and two similar groups, who have local resources in and around Kabul, had told this newspaper, at the time, that the information regarding Zawahiri being present in Kabul was developed by the local assets of Pakistan’s intelligence agency, Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). This information was then verified by the ISI before it was passed on to the agencies that were seeking Zawahiri. The CIA had at the time declined to comment on The Sunday Guardian’s queries on Zawahiri.
The Biden administration has sought to justify this $450 million deal by stating that it would help Pakistan in supporting “counter-terrorism” efforts, which is also being read as an indication of the deal being related to Pakistan allowing US assets to use Pakistani air space as was done in the case of Zawahiri.
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Gautam

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 15 Sep 2022 10:10

Yawn - Even friendly countries ‘fatigued’ by our aid seeking: PM

Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on Wednesday presented a dismal picture of the country’s economy and regretted that friendly countries had started looking at Pakistan as a country that was always asking for money.

“Today, when we go to any friendly country or make a phone call, they think that we have come [to them] to beg for money,” the prime minister regretted while addressing a lawyers’ convention.

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Mr Sharif said even smaller economies had surpassed Pakistan, “and we have been wandering for the past 75 years carrying a begging bowl”. There were countries in the region whose GDP was lower than Pakistan’s growth, but currently they were far ahead in terms of export, he told lawyers.

“Where does Pakistan stand today after 75 years? This is a pinching question … We are moving in a circle all the time,” said PM Shehbaz, while declaring that they were in a ‘now or never’ situation. He said the country had the potential but ‘there is a lack of will to do’.

All they have done through their history is wait to see who is 'willing' to bail them out

la.khan · Post by **la.khan** » 15 Sep 2022 13:24

Manish_P wrote:Wonder if BBC UK will show this.. in UKistan

Title - 1 Husband, 4 Wives, 23 Children and a flood of sorrow

I am slow and ignorant of the ways of the Momin, so please indulge me. When the practitioners of The One True Faith head west and live in a liberal democracy like UK (or rest of western Europe), do they still practice polygamy? How? Is this allowed openly or is this hush hush?

Dilbu wrote:What is this about? Yet another dog and pony show to blame Afghanistan?
Islamabad asks Kabul to arrest Masood Azhar
ISLAMABAD: In an unusual development, Islamabad has formally written a letter to Kabul for locating reporting and arresting, Maulana Masood Azhar, the founding head of a banned religio-militant organization, Jaish E Mohammad (JEM).
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And here is the response.
Taliban say Jaish-e-Mohammad chief not in Afghanistan
A spokesperson for the “Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan” has denied that Pakistan has demanded the handover of Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) chief Maulana Masood Azhar from Kabul.
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“Jaish-e-Mohammad chief is not in Afghanistan. Such organisations can operate on Pakistan’s soil – and even under official patronage,” Mujahid added. “We’ll not allow anyone to use Afghanistan’s soil against any other country.”

Oh, please tell me the p@kis sent a dossier to their Afghan brethren. What is this world coming to? We kafirs invented dossiers and now the momin are copying

This calls for jihard

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 15 Sep 2022 21:04

A Mard-e-Momin living in the West (be it the US, UK or Europe) can not practice polygamy in a legal way. Though there are many Christian sects derived from the Mormon Church in the US, that advocate polygamy and practice it, polygamy is still illegal. However, once the West allows Sharia to be established, polygamy will become legal.
Gautam

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 17 Sep 2022 17:45

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/india-t ... on-3350982
India To Chair Next Regional SCO Summit, Pak Not Sure Of Participation
India will take over as the chair of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) next year from Uzbekistan, which is hosting the ongoing summit.
Asian News International, September 17, 2022
Samarkand: Pakistan Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto Zardari said on Friday that no decision had been taken about Islamabad's participation in the next Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit that will be chaired by India in 2023.
"There is no decision yet on Pakistan's participation in the next SCO summit," Bhutto, who is in Samarkand to attend the SCO summit chaired by Uzbekistan this year, said while speaking to ANI.
india will take over as the chair of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) next year from Uzbekistan, which is hosting the ongoing summit.
While Pakistan remained non-committal, China has congratulated India as it is set to host the SCO summit next year. During a meeting of the expanded circle of the Heads of SCO in Samarkand, Chinese President Xi Jinping congratulated India for the SCO Presidency next year in 2023.
"I congratulate India for hosting the SCO next year," Chinese President Xi Jinping said in a statement during the summit.
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Gautam

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 17 Sep 2022 23:10

la.khan wrote: I am slow and ignorant of the ways of the Momin, so please indulge me. When the practitioners of The One True Faith head west and live in a liberal democracy like UK (or rest of western Europe), do they still practice polygamy? How? Is this allowed openly or is this hush hush?

In the UK, you are more than likely to be on a living standard that is being subsidised by the state if you are a from a certain community. If you are fortunate to be in this category, then everything from a house/accommodation and schooling in addition to spending monies are provided for by the state. What you can then do is to divorce your wife in an englistan court which your religion does not recognise and get married again and reapply for state funded benefits again for a second house/accommodation, family etc..... If necessary, divorce again for No 3. Simple!

All this is done OPENLY!

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 18 Sep 2022 00:38

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 18 Sep 2022 01:00

That is pure genius.
Gautam

nandakumar · Post by **nandakumar** » 18 Sep 2022 07:17

Lisa wrote:
la.khan wrote: I am slow and ignorant of the ways of the Momin, so please indulge me. When the practitioners of The One True Faith head west and live in a liberal democracy like UK (or rest of western Europe), do they still practice polygamy? How? Is this allowed openly or is this hush hush?
In the UK, you are more than likely to be on a living standard that is being subsidised by the state if you are a from a certain community. If you are fortunate to be in this category, then everything from a house/accommodation and schooling in addition to spending monies are provided for by the state. What you can then do is to divorce your wife in an englistan court which your religion does not recognise and get married again and reapply for state funded benefits again for a second house/accommodation, family etc..... If necessary, divorce again for No 3. Simple!

All this is done OPENLY!

So you divorce your first wife under civil law but continue to live with her as her husband because your religion recognizes her as a legal wife even as the second wife gets to live in the new house that the State has now provided? Whoever said 'you can't have your cake and eat it too'?

la.khan · Post by **la.khan** » 18 Sep 2022 08:10

Lisa wrote:
la.khan wrote: I am slow and ignorant of the ways of the Momin, so please indulge me. When the practitioners of The One True Faith head west and live in a liberal democracy like UK (or rest of western Europe), do they still practice polygamy? How? Is this allowed openly or is this hush hush?
In the UK, you are more than likely to be on a living standard that is being subsidised by the state if you are a from a certain community. If you are fortunate to be in this category, then everything from a house/accommodation and schooling in addition to spending monies are provided for by the state. What you can then do is to divorce your wife in an englistan court which your religion does not recognise and get married again and reapply for state funded benefits again for a second house/accommodation, family etc..... If necessary, divorce again for No 3. Simple!

All this is done OPENLY!

Oh ok. So, the mard-e-momin is not practicing polygamy, as per English law. As he is divorcing his wife. He can marry again but continue to have a relationship with his previous wife. As you said, this can be done multiple times. However, with this arrangement, why stop at wife no. 4? Why not get more? As in 5/6/7/10/whatever.

In India, practitioners of The One True Faith are allowed to practice polygamy and they can have only 4. If the dude wants to get more, he needs to divorce one of the four.

So, very clearly, the mard-e-momins of Englistan get a better deal than the dudes in India

Partners/wives wise, subsidies from the government, and to top it off, gold/platinum/titanium victim card

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 18 Sep 2022 13:19

nandakumar wrote:
Lisa wrote:
In the UK, you are more than likely to be on a living standard that is being subsidised by the state if you are a from a certain community. If you are fortunate to be in this category, then everything from a house/accommodation and schooling in addition to spending monies are provided for by the state. What you can then do is to divorce your wife in an englistan court which your religion does not recognise and get married again and reapply for state funded benefits again for a second house/accommodation, family etc..... If necessary, divorce again for No 3. Simple!

All this is done OPENLY!
So you divorce your first wife under civil law but continue to live with her as her husband because your religion recognizes her as a legal wife even as the second wife gets to live in the new house that the State has now provided? Whoever said 'you can't have your cake and eat it too'?

Absolutely!

Ardeshir · Post by **Ardeshir** » 18 Sep 2022 17:19

Apologies if this has already been posted, or if it is in the wrong section.
Here's a link to a report titled "Pakistan’s Destabilization Playbook: Khalistan Separatist Activism Within the US" by the Hudson Institute.

During the course of the fifteen-year campaign of violence that lasted until the early 1990s, some 25,000 were murdered,
mostly Sikhs. Despite the long period of dormancy that then followed, Khalistani militancy has increased in recent years, and so curtailment of diaspora-based efforts to re-invigorate it may prevent a return to the violence of the 1980s.

Such diaspora-based efforts are worrisome because Pakistan’s intelligence agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), may be assisting pro-Khalistan groups financially and organizationally.

kit · Post by **kit** » 18 Sep 2022 17:41

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Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 20 Sep 2022 13:33

Lahore-via-kuwait, Pakistan Mard-e-momeen not allowed to pray on PIA flight

Video Shows Pakistan Passenger Stripping, Kicking Window Onboard Flight

According to the Dawn News, the male passenger boarded PIA's flight PK-283 from Peshawar to Dubai on Wednesday. As the flight took off, he started asking the cabin crew to get him off the aircraft. The man then started punching and kicking the seats and also damaged a window shutter, causing panic among the passengers.

One of the clips shows flight attendants attempting to calm the customer down and pleading with him to stop acting in this manner. The man began praying and giving Azaan in the aisle before lying down there, according to the crew members, as per the Dawn News report.

Larry Walker · Post by **Larry Walker** » 20 Sep 2022 18:56

g.sarkar wrote:A Mard-e-Momin living in the West (be it the US, UK or Europe) can not practice polygamy in a legal way. Though there are many Christian sects derived from the Mormon Church in the US, that advocate polygamy and practice it, polygamy is still illegal. However, once the West allows Sharia to be established, polygamy will become legal.
Gautam

If 1 momin has harem of 4 ayesha's then are the other 3 momins doing their khusboo's ? also does it mean that ayesha's get rotated regularly across momin's freely as sex objects ? seems like khushboo's have more chastity then ayesha's in malsi societies !!

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 20 Sep 2022 19:50

Indeed that is the question? But why is it never asked?

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 21 Sep 2022 12:32

Solider martyred in cross-border terrorist attack from Afghanistan

A Pakistan Army soldier embraced martyrdom while thwarting a terrorist attack from Afghanistan in bordering Dwatoi area of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa’s North Waziristan district, the military said on Tuesday.

According to the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), on September 19, the terrorists from inside Afghanistan opened fire on the Pakistani troops in general area Dwatoi, which was responded in a befitting manner.

Earlier this month, three Pakistani soldiers embraced martyrdom when, the army said, terrorists from Afghanistan opened fire on their post.

Terrorists from across the border continue to pose security threat to Pakistan despite Afghan Taliban takeover and promises by the interim government not to allow Afghan soil to be used against its neighbour.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 21 Sep 2022 22:38

sanjaykumar wrote:Indeed that is the question? But why is it never asked?

Sanjayji,
There is another angle that was not discussed here. The first Ayesha is usually a more Westernized Pakistani, with citizenship who imports her Abdul from the Holy Land to appease her family. She is not liked due to her attitudes and soon divorced. The second Ayesha is from home and usually a first cousin, so everything stays within the family. No Ayesha, who is a cousin (or a relative), will ever dare to report anything to the authorities, as it will bring down the wrath of the whole Biradari. I had a Pak neighbor (here in the US), who falls under this category, I was too stupid to understand the situation then, but now it is clear, Alhamdulillah.
Gautam