Terroristan - March 31, 2022

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Aditya_V wrote: lt gen faiz hamid takes early retirement
Gen Faiz was among the six senior-most generals whose name was included by GHQ in the list of potential candidates for the two top military offices, sent to Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif for approval last week.
Gen Faiz retired but will he go rogue? Retired but rogue ISI officers are pretty famous for planning many terror attacks.
New army chief comes in, pissed off Gen Faiz retires hurt, TTP calls off "ceasefire" and announces nation wide attacks. Coincidence? I am guessing jernails like Faiz must have built contacts and influence in various terror groups.
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There are no rogue ISI officers - this is a myth. Partha saar, please do not believe this, you have been on BRF long enough.

The ISI is probably the only institution that works and is efficient in Pakistan, and the theory that it has rogue officers that run around arranging the logistics for terror attacks is false. In a corrupt and bankrupt nation such as the Bhikaris live in, it is impossible to run such operations without the ISI knowing.
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Also the biggest terror organization is the Paki Army and it's arm the ISI, the rest are basically it's proxies or subcontractors. We need to stop internalizing and peddling the Paki narrative/like and the deliberate fig leaf that the west has given it.
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It seems there has been massive corruption in the RekoDiq contract
Details will come out in the near future. Some $8 billion dollars worth perhaps
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Sources say that there is no deeper reason or drama: Gen Faiz just wanted to spend more time with his family. He has made sure that his wife’s pistol is hidden and is spending more time with her.

Meanwhile the general selected for extension in 2025 is Asim Munir. Sources say that he might be good in military matters but is probably inexperienced in his crucial responsibilities of conducting elections.

Gen Bajawa in his farewell speech correctly pointed out that 1971 was a political defeat not a military defeat. This makes sense. My grandfather told me about elections held in longewala where Indians rigged the voting and a lot of Pakistani tanks lost the elections. Also Indians parachuted candidates from out of state who won the local elections around Dhaka.

partha wrote: Every chief makes a grand entry with big buzz words. These empty words together become the theme for the chief's tenure. For Bajwa they were: same page, geoeconomics, "Bajwa doctrine" and papa johns.

Edit: sorry not papa johns, that was the other Bajwa.

You dont believe in Bajwa doctrine that "Army should stay back in its DHA"?
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Read this
https://theprint.in/opinion/for-gen-baj ... s/1240980/

Be sure to click on each link, it is quite juicy.
Bajwa’s reputation seems to be even more questionable compared to his predecessors. While reporter Ahmed Noorani exposed Bajwa and his family’s declared legal assets—which run into billions of Pakistani rupees—details of his undeclared wealth are not known. Senior Generals in Pakistan are not known for accountability, but this one was exceptional in extorting State resources for personal and familial gains. From getting his sister-in law Asma Bajwa the position of a highly paid human resource consultant for the national airline to helping his 70-year-old brother retain a cushy Pakistan International Airline (PIA) job in the UK, there is so much that Bajwa must answer for
A Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) plane crashed in a residential area in Karachi near the city's Jinnah International Airport on Friday, an official of the flag carrier has confirmed... the airline, like many other key businesses, is run by the military as a family affair. The PIA, for example, is headed by former Vice Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal Arshad Malik, who is related to the brother-in-law of Army Chief Bajwa. He took over as the President and CEO of the state-run airline in 2018 soon after Imran Khan became Prime Minister....While the army chief’s two brothers are currently senior functionaries of PIA posted in Birmingham, UK, his sister-in-law was a former HR chief of the airlines :rotfl:
Bajwa should have been given an extension as Pakistan Air Force Chief
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Aditya_V wrote:You guys seem to have missed the wood for the trees. IK Pasand General Retires. So as Predicted the whole power grab from IK was all about who will head of the Khakis, it is once in 6-7 year opportunity and the next in line 20 or Major Generals and Lt Generals miss out.

Here is a Haram link

lt gen faiz hamid takes early retirement
Gen Faiz was among the six senior-most generals whose name was included by GHQ in the list of potential candidates for the two top military offices, sent to Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif for approval last week.
Its sad that Paki generals have no H&D. Only 1-2 take retirement with a new General. Out of 5-15 who are in the race. 5 directly and 10 other Lt Generals who are eligible. Zia was 8 in the chain when he was promoted. With H&D all direct competitors should have resigned at least.

with every year of a crore commander equating to ~100Cr of new money I think money becomes important than H&D. This is not the Pakistan of Jinnah...
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A warm welcome to Asim Munir.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2388792/at ... etta-blast
At least two policemen martyred, 24 people injured in Quetta suicide blast
Expect a fancy name operation against terrorism to start.
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Gen Faiz frustration , let see if he has some real capability
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partha wrote:A warm welcome to Asim Munir.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2388792/at ... etta-blast
At least two policemen martyred, 24 people injured in Quetta suicide blast
Expect a fancy name operation against terrorism to start.
The order for designing a fancy medal would also be given simultaneously...

Plenty of real estate on his chest to pin it

(i think about 6-7 operations will be named before his is done)

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partha wrote:A warm welcome to Asim Munir.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2388792/at ... etta-blast
At least two policemen martyred, 24 people injured in Quetta suicide blast
Expect a fancy name operation against terrorism to start.
May I suggest, operation "dard-e-peshaab" :rotfl:
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Tanaji wrote:There are no rogue ISI officers - this is a myth. Partha saar, please do not believe this, you have been on BRF long enough.

The ISI is probably the only institution that works and is efficient in Pakistan, and the theory that it has rogue officers that run around arranging the logistics for terror attacks is false. In a corrupt and bankrupt nation such as the Bhikaris live in, it is impossible to run such operations without the ISI knowing.
he's probably on some exit watch list already

If these guys can reach out all the way to kenya to bring down game, just imagine what cannot be done in pakilund itself
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Paki Pappu announces his registration for the Sunroof lever Club

Let's see how the new President of da club reacts

Yawn - Bilawal disputes ‘political failure’ narrative on 1971 debacle
Exactly a week after former army chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa referred to the East Pakistan loss as a ‘political’ failure, Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari in a thinly-veiled rejection of the claim insisted on Wednesday that the Dhaka debacle in 1971 was in fact a ‘military failure’ that had brought host of challenges for the Zulfikar Ali Bhutto-led PPP.

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“When Zulfikar Ali Bhutto took over the government, the people were broken and had lost all hope,” he said. “But he rebuilt the nation, restored the confidence of the people and finally brought our 90,000 troops back home who had been made prisoners of war due to ‘military failure’. Those 90,000 soldiers were reunited with their families. And that all was made possible due to politics of hope... of unity... and inclusion.”
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https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/101560 ... c-discount
Islamabad-Moscow talks: Pakistan seeks Russian crude at 30-40pc discount
The talks ended with no cogent conclusion but the Russian side promised to consider the demand of Pakistan and to share its mind later on through diplomatic channels.
:roll:
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Russia must be wondering that even if they provide a deep discount how to secure the money. Perhaps advance payment terms?
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VKumar wrote:Russia must be wondering that even if they provide a deep discount how to secure the money. Perhaps advance payment terms?
First of all why should Pakistan pay for Russian oil? Pakistan's bad economic situation is a result of terrorism and extremism which have its roots in the Afghan war of 1980s for which Russia is responsible. What I am saying is Russia should not only give 100% discount on oil but also compensate Pakistan. Total loss to Pakistan due to Russian invasion of Afghanistan is around $125 billion.
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VKumar wrote:Russia must be wondering that even if they provide a deep discount how to secure the money. Perhaps advance payment terms?
Why should Russia supply oil at all to pakistan?

Pakistan supplies Ukraine with 155 MM shells to fight Russia, secure's military and financial aid/loan and are now asking the Russians to supply them oil at substantial discount!!!!

I am surprised the Russians let off the Porki ministerial delegation so easily and did not humiliate them further.
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Pakistan has taken a principled stand and refused to buy oil from Russia, citing lack of Russian support for the Cashmere and Palestine cause. Previously Russian delegation offered to sell oil to Pakistan*





*without discount


https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 928111.cms
Russia refuses to give Pakistan 30-40pc discount on crude oil
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1724311/wont- ... s-interest

‘Won’t take IMF’s dictation’: Dar says
the finance minister was questioned about the delayed arrival of the IMF team to which he said: “I don’t care if they come. I don’t have to plead before them. I have to look at Pakistan’s matters.”

He added that the IMF team was “most welcome” to come...


...“Our ninth review is totally in order. Everything is in order and under normal circumstances … I have reassured them that our ninth review is in order and you should come and give Pakistan the $500 million funds,” Dar said.

He said the IMF could “not dictate” the government
Before IMF accuses Pakistan of cooking its books, they should realize Pakistan itself is a victim of Pakistan cooking its books.
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What happened today:

Pakistan’s embassy in Kabul comes under attack
PM Shehbaz condemns the incident and calls for investigation and action against culprits
FO says Pakistan CdA was the target of attack and security guard critically injured
Afghan foreign ministry assures investigation and punishment of perpetrators
Kabul police spokesman says one suspect arrested
FM Bilawal and President Alvi strongly condemn the attack
FO summons Afghan CdA to convey Pakistan’s “deep concern”
FM Bilawal receives call over incident from Afghan counterpart
An embassy official told AFP that a lone attacker “came behind the cover of houses and started firing”.

“The ambassador and all the other staff are safe, but we are not going outside of the embassy building as a precaution,” he said.

Kabul police spokesman Khalid Zadran said one suspect was arrested after security forces rushed to the embassy and stopped the ongoing firing.

He said details of the clearance operation would be shared later, adding that weapons were recovered.

Link from Dawn : Pakistan’s embassy in Kabul comes under attack: FO
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‘Won’t take IMF’s dictation’: Dar says
How come a institute of Kufars dictate to mard a momin and protector of Islam ? IMF should apologize to current leader of of Islamic ummah and release money without any delay.
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Apparently Bajwa tried very hard till the last minute to get a six months extension with even going as far as threatening a coup. Shahbaz Shariff called his bluff and successfully resisted pressure from his boss in Pindi :shock: Bajwa chickened out and retired in disgrace.

Hopefully Hafiz Munir will show some backbone and restore honor and dignity of the army. Just going by his face, looks like a trouble maker for the civilians so I have high hopes.
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partha wrote:Apparently Bajwa tried very hard till the last minute to get a six months extension with even going as far as threatening a coup. Shahbaz Shariff called his bluff and successfully resisted pressure from his boss in Pindi :shock: Bajwa chickened out and retired in disgrace.

Hopefully Hafiz Munir will show some backbone and restore honor and dignity of the army. Just going by his face, looks like a trouble maker for the civilians so I have high hopes.
partha ji,

bajwa has moved from hors d'oeuvres (his current corpulence bears testimony to the fact) to hors de combat (as his now complete irrelevance in all matters military/govt demonstrate).

He appears to have disastrously misplayed the powerful hand that was once dealt to him on a platter.

He has also been neatly finessed by the deliberately leaked and public revelations of his and his family's property holdings and the sheer extent of their rapidly "acquired wealth" The sheer timing of these lightning bolt strikes against the army chief betrays the intent of his detractors

He could not have been touched without the express approval of the amriki masters because loans from the IMF, many other international agencies including the world bank can be unobtrusively blocked by foggy bottom

One suspects that bajwa's last trips to amrika and cheen would have been an all out effort to drum up support for his continued gainful and uniformed employment. but it seems that his fondly wished for result was not to be.

Like bertie wooster, or was it jeeves who said that a "concatenation of circumstances" seems to have overtaken him and left him rapidly receding in the rearview mirrors of two superpowers apart from pissing off his usual ummah buddies in the gelf.

Modi's forceful brushoff of the entire paki establishment/deepstate has left both bajwa and niazi up the creek without a paddle. The wrong bets that they had placed on the taliban after the amrekis dumped afghanistan and left them in the lurch has driven the pakis right into the greedy hands of the cheeni who now have a virtual choke hold on the pakis.

covid, as well as, post covid fiascos have left the pakis in what can best be described as "a radioactive pariah mulk and a besharam katora state" that no one wants to engage with.

This was bajwa's and niazi's playing field and neither could hack it so both had to go.
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The more we look back the more it appears that Bajwa played a double game with Sharifs especially the Chota Sharif and everyone, for Imran Niazi. He may be the principle behind the rise of Imran Niazi and his stay in power/limelight and not general Faiz. He used general Faiz as the front man. A classic tactic Pakistan Army has finessed over 70+ years.

The successful no confidence motion against Imran was to ensure that Imran is able to escape responsibility of really mishandled economy and come back to power again in re-elections (to be conducted in next 4-6 months) for next 5 years. Then Bajwa will transition the power to Faiz for another 6 years ensuring another 5 year term for Imran.

Imran bungled the economy towards a real bad end and Chota sharif was played to take the responsibility of a sinking ship giving Imran an escape to avoid the blame. Imran was than allowed to take the hostility against Pakistan Army openly to an unprecedented level without any backlash projecting him as victim and anti-establishment hero. Yes, there were two establishments, but not one supporting Imran and one opposing him. It was one supporting Imran and one pretending to oppose him.

In a desperate attempt towards the end he delayed the nominations for the new COAS and added Faiz as the one of the nomination thinking he can negotiate for Faiz. Despite clear signals from PMNL that they dont want Faiz in the nominations.
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Imran Khan’s visit to Moscow on the day the war started has really paid dividends!
Russia refuses to give 30-40% discount on crude oil to Pakistan, says ‘all volumes committed’
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Balochistan is not Pakistan or Iran. #FreeBalochistan

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Imran Khan’s visit to Moscow on the day the war started has really paid dividends!
Russia refuses to give 30-40% discount on crude oil to Pakistan, says ‘all volumes committed’

State Minister for Petroleum Musadik Malik announced on Monday that Russia has decided to provide crude oil, petrol, and diesel to Pakistan at discounted rates.


You Kuffers eat you words. See what Paki minister says. No one can refuse to ummah leader.
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^
I will wait for the Russian govt notification regarding the same. Pakis lie through the teeth in these matters. Remember Shahbaz Shariff announcing approval of IMF funds to the tune of $2 Billion? What happened to that? https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 136_1.html
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^^^ FWIW, from newspapers what i could find:
-Malik led a visit to Russia last month, and now, he told local media, “Our visit to Russia turned out to be more productive than planned.”

The minister, however, didn’t go into details whether Pakistan’s crude oil imports from Russia would comply with the $60 price cap, or how much the discount was.

Pakistan is also seeking to negotiate long-term deals with Russian firms for the supply of liquefied natural gas (LNG), the Pakistani minister said.

Meanwhile Pakistan is to ration natural gas supply this winter (gas provided three times a day for cooking to households)
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Do they know that they must actually pay for the commodity in some currency?
// Rupay yes, Allah-ka-nam-pe no.
jash_p wrote:
Imran Khan’s visit to Moscow on the day the war started has really paid dividends!
Russia refuses to give 30-40% discount on crude oil to Pakistan, says ‘all volumes committed’
State Minister for Petroleum Musadik Malik announced on Monday that Russia has decided to provide crude oil, petrol, and diesel to Pakistan at discounted rates.
You Kuffers eat you words. See what Paki minister says. No one can refuse to ummah leader.
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There is the payment question and also does Pakistan have refineries which can process Russian crude? I have read that due to high sulphur content in Russian crude, some upgrades are necessary for refineries which usually process middle eastern crude variety. Does anyone know more about this? Found this article on the state of Paki refineries which doesn't paint a pretty picture - https://tribune.com.pk/story/2328329/wh ... erutilised
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Look who showed up:

https://www.dawn.com/news/1724950/pakis ... oeed-yusuf
Pakistan must prepare itself for global challenges, says ex-NSA Moeed Yusuf
ISLAMABAD: Former national security adviser (NSA) Dr Moeed Yusuf on Monday emphasised that Pakistan must prepare itself to face the changing global geo-political and geo-economic situation.
Still using buzz words from Bajwa regime. Hasn't he got the memo about Hafiz Munir taking charge of the army?
Speaking at a conference on theme, Geopolitical Conflicts: Implications for Pakistan’s Geo-economic
I think a better theme for the conference would have been "What the F is geo-economics?"
Earlier, at another inaugural ceremony, Minister for Planning Ahsan Iqbal called upon the regional countries to make joint efforts to achievie common goals of poverty alleviation, literacy, sustainable socio-economic development, and mitigation of climate disaster impacts.

The minister urged the international finance institutions to establish a special fund to provide interest-free loans with grace period of up to 30 years to developing countries to help them cope with climate disasters.
8)
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partha wrote:Look who showed up:

https://www.dawn.com/news/1724950/pakis ... oeed-yusuf
Pakistan must prepare itself for global challenges, says ex-NSA Moeed Yusuf
ISLAMABAD: Former national security adviser (NSA) Dr Moeed Yusuf on Monday emphasised that Pakistan must prepare itself to face the changing global geo-political and geo-economic situation.
Still using buzz words from Bajwa regime. Hasn't he got the memo about Hafiz Munir taking charge of the army?
Speaking at a conference on theme, Geopolitical Conflicts: Implications for Pakistan’s Geo-economic
I think a better theme for the conference would have been "What the F is geo-economics?"
Earlier, at another inaugural ceremony, Minister for Planning Ahsan Iqbal called upon the regional countries to make joint efforts to achievie common goals of poverty alleviation, literacy, sustainable socio-economic development, and mitigation of climate disaster impacts.

The minister urged the international finance institutions to establish a special fund to provide interest-free loans with grace period of up to 30 years to developing countries to help them cope with climate disasters.
8)
begging sans borders onlee

they are prayerfully pitching for global beggary instead of what they are being subjected to now which is global buggery
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https://twitter.com/TheLegateIN/status/ ... 0898368512
Pakistani soldier captured and beheaded by Taliban in Bannu district.
At first I thought this was Af Taliban. But after searching for Bannu on a map, TTP it is. Please look at the comments on the tweet.
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A-o-A Take that your SDREs

Yawn - Pakistan projected to be among largest economies in the world by 2075: Goldman Sachs
A research paper published by Goldman Sachs on Tuesday projected Pakistan to be the sixth largest economy in the world by 2075 given “appropriate policies and institutions” are in place.

Authored by economists Kevin Daly and Tadas Gedminas and titled ‘The Path to 2075’, the paper projected that the five largest economies by 2075 will be China, India, the US, Indonesia and Nigeria.

..

Pakistan’s star future status is predicted on the back of its population growth, which along with Egypt and Nigeria, could place it among the largest economies in the world in the next 50 years, according to Goldman Sachs.

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Among key risks to their projections, the economists particularly highlight “environmental catastrophe” and “populist nationalism”.
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Ishaq Dar went to US ambassador and sat at his feet and bagged that if Uncle don't help with IMF he will not go out and start fasting till death in US embassy.
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Anujan wrote:……
‘Won’t take IMF’s dictation’: Dar says
……

He added that the IMF team was “most welcome” to come...

He said the IMF could “not dictate” the government
...
You can’t dictate, but you can come.

Pakistani history, in seven words. Also the script of a Ron Jeremy movie.
chetak wrote:…bajwa has moved from hors d'oeuvres ….to hors de combat …… has driven the pakis right into the greedy hands of the cheeni….
So becoming cheeni hors…..
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Manish_P wrote:A-o-A Take that your SDREs

Yawn - Pakistan projected to be among largest economies in the world by 2075: Goldman Sachs
A research paper published by Goldman Sachs on Tuesday projected Pakistan to be the sixth largest economy in the world by 2075 given “appropriate policies and institutions” are in place.

Authored by economists Kevin Daly and Tadas Gedminas and titled ‘The Path to 2075’, the paper projected that the five largest economies by 2075 will be China, India, the US, Indonesia and Nigeria.

..

Pakistan’s star future status is predicted on the back of its population growth, which along with Egypt and Nigeria, could place it among the largest economies in the world in the next 50 years, according to Goldman Sachs.

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Among key risks to their projections, the economists particularly highlight “environmental catastrophe” and “populist nationalism”.
Expectation in year 2075: Pakistan is the 6th largest economy.
Reality in 2075: Pakistan finance minister is holding the 6th review meeting with IMF for the release of $1 Billion as part of Pakistan's 75th IMF plan. Imran Khan's descendent Kachra Khan is threatening long march while prime minister something Bhutto is meeting with his father in Nairobi regarding appointment of the new army chief.
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In 2075 Pakistan would have graduated from geostrategy to geopolitics to geoeconomics to geometry.

The outgoing army chief owns all "idli hut" franchises in India and is aggressively expanding to Texas.
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Goldman Sachs should add a green plus-sign next to its logo, to warn us about where all the smoke is coming from. Only last month we were told by pakis themselves that they are all going to get moist from global warming.
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