India tests Prithvi based ABM-4

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The AAD is supposed to be equivalent to the Patriot/PAC3 or better.
The PAD is supposed to be equivalent to the Arrow or better.
Nahi , Neither is supposed to be better than this/that or other foreign system , that dosent seem to be the design goal of making it better than Arrow or PAC 3, S300 what ever

The AAD & PAD is specifically designed to Intercept missile which threatens us , the Hatf , Ghauri , Shaheen types or generically IRBM type

And yes every country has to design a ABM system tailored for her needs , no short cuts or import will help
AD gonna a HTK too?
Yes IMO combination of both , HTK + Warhead , If AAD is suppose to take care of aircraft/air breathing threats warhead becomes a necessary evil cant do without.

PAD was know as Project Air Defence in DRDO per a DRDO dude.

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What is the missile model shown in this photo?

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You know, if 1990s was the decade of Indian Space, then this one is surely the decade for Indian missiles.
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Thats AAD. To be tested sometime in 2007.
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NRao wrote:See if you can explain what "AAD" stands for.
Heh heh, that's easy.

Let's see, the PAD was a modified Prithvi. What does the AAD look like? Hmm, a modified Akash, with the centre of gravity and fins moved around a bit and some change to the propulsion system unless the usual air intakes have been blurred for some reason.

Hence AAD = ANDO Atmospheric Dhamaka = Akash Air Defence

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Does that internals photo in the CNN videograb exist anywhere else ?
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x-posted by Vick in the Missile Tec thread.

From DN
[quote]Posted 01/29/07 13:24
India Plans 2nd ABM Test in June
Low-Altitude Trial Will Follow November’s Intercept
By VIVEK RAGHUVANSHI, NEW DELHI

When an Indian interceptor rocket rammed a ballistic target some 50 kilometers above Ballasore in the eastern part of the country on Nov. 27, it demonstrated a capability that is potentially similar to Israel’s Arrow-2, Indian officials said.

In June, India will attempt to mimic the U.S. Patriot Advanced Capability-3 system with a lower-altitude test of the Prithvi Air Defence (PAD) system.

Both tests mark a big step toward putting India in an elite group of nations with defenses against such missiles, said Vijay Kumar Saraswat, considered the father of Indian missile-defense efforts, who leads missile programs at the government’s Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

DRDO sources said New Delhi intends to announce by June that its anti-ballistic-missile defenses are on par with those of the United States.
Such defenses could give India an advantage against regional rivals Pakistan and China.


But Indian analysts say the program in its current level of development is far from providing a viable missile shield.

“The DRDO has been quite inaccurate in claiming, as per some reports, that the country has acquired ‘air defense capability against an incoming missile,’â€
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[quote]
From DN
[quote]India Plans 2nd ABM Test in June
Low-Altitude Trial Will Follow November’s Intercept
ads missile programs at the government’s Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

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“The DRDO has been quite inaccurate in claiming, as per some reports, that the country has acquired ‘air defense capability against an incoming missile,’â€
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Shalav,

I presume, this dude who runs this website.

Personally, apart from the occasional Brig VJ Sundaram who has been there and done that in R&D, most of these folks know less than the average jingo. To them, OFB and DRDO etc are one and the same.
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Brigadiers in IA and British Army are called Brigadier Generals in US, aka One star general, Major general two star and Lt. Gen three star, Next the FM is 5 star (honarary in IA FM Manekshaw is one)
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I am reading Wings Of Fire , Kalam clearly states that Prithvi design already had the provision for modification from a long range Surface to Surface to a Surface to Air Missile.

Now in the forms of PAD we can see , Was Prithvi when designed was concieved as more than tri service surface to surface missile , to also a Tri Service Surface to Air Missile ?
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From BMD watch
Vijay Kumar Saraswat, the veteran engineer who is the visionary driving force of the Indian BMD program in the nation`s Defence Research and Development Organization, told Defense News that if the June test was successful it would put India in the same league as Russia and the United States, the two nations with the most advanced and reliable anti-ballistic missile systems.

Saraswat told Defense News the PAD had 'two intercept modes, each designed to hit a target within four minutes: exo-atmospheric, or above 50 kilometers (30 miles); and endo-atmospheric, or lower than about 30 kilometers (18 miles),' the report said.

Defense News said the PAD`s main sensor 'for exo-atmospheric intercepts' was the 360-mile range Israeli-built Green Pine radar. 'India imported two Green Pines three years ago, one in operating condition and one as a kit that it assembled,' Defense News said.

The report said the PAD`s interceptor rocket was 'powered by a liquid-fueled first stage that uses two propellants and oxidizers, and a solid-fuel second stage with a gas thruster that can turn the rocket at more than five Gs. The missile carries active radar sensors to guide it to its target.'

'The system includes one radar that tracks both the incoming missile and the outgoing interceptor, another that helps classify the incoming weapon and sends data to the interceptor batteries, command-and-control computers, and a transmitter to help guide the interceptors,' Defense News said, citing another DRDO scientist.
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Post by Sparsh »

At around the 0:52-0:53 mark in the CNN-IBN video, there is an altitude vs. range plot for a regular Prithvi taken from the DRDO presentation. Compare that with Arun's plot on BR's Prithvi page. They are nearly identical.
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Paki from Brookings is ranting about the Prithvi ABM Test in this week's WRC:

[quote]India’s technology-defying feat!

Naeem Salik

The Indian media needs to do some basic arithmetic before eulogising its scientists

On 26 November 2006 India claimed to have carried out a successful missile interception test. The scientific adviser to India’s defence minister in a telephonic conversation with the Hindu declared that India had acquired the missile defence capability and described it as a ‘significant milestone’ in India’s missile defence.

The press coverage of the event, which was named ‘Prithvi Missile Defence Exercise’, has been highly confused and self-contradictory as have been the claims by various government officials. For instance, the Indian Express , a prestigious newspaper, reported it as “the coordinated launch of two surface-to-surface Prithvi-2 missiles from two different ranges on the Orissa coastâ€
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These Pakis, and their local equivalents can complain all they want. Fact is that India is on the verge of changing its entire MIC and coming up with a slew of new products and designs, for which the painful groundwork is almost complete. This includes subsystems painstakingly developed through a bunch of interconnected projects. So whilst the Pakistanis keep GUBOing to China for the next best thing, India will be making items which are far ahead in complexity and ability. The Samyukta for instance, beggars anything that Pak can field and I am yet to come across any comparable project in the PRC even. Pak cannot even make one radar on its own, whereas India is now manufacturing half a dozen of its own designs and is confident enough to absorb AESA and even modify it to meets its requirements and build it on its own. He is even unable to understand the importance of the ABM test, in terms of what it means for other projects.
Bad news Brigadier Halfwit, but such is life. Keep clutching to every DDM report about DRDO or whatever, and dont realise the truck till it hits you and runs you over. The military-technological gap between India & Pak will grow to a level where no amount of begging the PRC or asking Uncle Sam will work, as they find it too expensive and useless to keep propping Pak up. That is what India will do to you, and your ilk.
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Kakkaji wrote: .
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There are other technical issues as well.
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For instance, the target missile (a modified Prithvi-2) was fired from Chandipur Test range on the coast of Orissa while the interceptor missile was fired from Wheeler Island 70 kilometres away. Going by the claims of the Indian press and officials it intercepted the target at 40-50 kilometres altitude. The press reports also claim that the interceptor was fired 60 seconds after the target missile and interception time was 110-117 seconds. None of this makes much sense.
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The writer is a former Brigadier and currently a visiting scholar at the Brookings Institution in Washington D.C

:D Thank God for such bright PA "Brigadiers", "generals" etc, for without them this world would have been even less safe. Brookings Institution gets another worthy "South Asia" expert along with the "still waiting for an India studies moolah.... I mean chair" dude!!
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May God bless the Paki Army with many more such Brigadiers.
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Post by Vijay J »

I know Salik wants to pretend that the test didn't happen which is fine but he is confusing vertical altitude with the horizontal distance. That is why his numbers don't add up.

Note how he subtlely accuses the US and Israel in there.
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arrey baba you kaffirs forgot who discovered numerals and made advancement in science and mathematics when europe was engulfed in dark ages. By virture of being their descendents we are by birth infallible.

Whether we make sense or not, please remember we are world class people onlee.
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Post by Harry »

PAD-01 had RCI's new RLG-INS, which was originally developed under the LCA programme.
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Post by Omar »

With 'brigadier generals' in the PA like these, its no surprise the Pakistanis have repeatedly underestimated the capability of their opponents in war in a professional capacity and repeatedly lost.
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