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Postby JaiS » 06 Mar 2007 00:49

JCage, could you throw some light on BEL's Link-2 ? Thanks.

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Postby Sumeet » 06 Mar 2007 04:21

Looking for following info on Link-2

1) Frequency Coverage
2) Channel Spacing
3) Power Output
4) Power Requirements
5) Weight & Size of Data Proc. Unit and Rx/Tx Unit.
6) Data Rate
7) Range [with and w/o Relay]
8) Communication Format/Protocol
9) Types of Jamming Protection
10) Error Correction
11) Enrcyption and Security feature details.
12) Number of possible nets.

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Postby A Sharma » 06 Mar 2007 05:12

FROM NAL Website

Deadlines are coming closer towards the commencement of another major milestone, i.e. engine ground runs on the SARAS which will start in a few days from now.

Stringent checks on the aircraft with regard to hydraulics, electrical, avionics and FCS is nearing completion. The process of obtaining the formal clearances from DGCA is under progress and the airframe structure, power plant, fuel system and hydraulics system has been cleared by DGCA so far. After the DGCA clearance of FCS, electrical and avionics system, the 2nd baby would roll-out to ASTE. Then begins a series of full fledged engine runs and low-speed taxi tests eventually leading to the first flight.

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Postby shyamd » 08 Mar 2007 00:45

India successfully tests Pilotless Target Aircraft
India Wednesday tested an advanced version Pilotless Target Aircraft (PTA) from a test range in Orissa, defence sources said.

The PTA, developed by the Aeronautical Development Establishment, Bangalore, was test-fired from the Interim Test Range (ITR) at Chandipur in the coastal district Balasore, 15 km from here and some 230 km from the state capital Bhubaneswar at 1.22 p.m., they said.

The test was carried out to ascertain the viability of the advanced digitally controlled engine and duration enhancement, the sources said.

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Postby shaardula » 08 Mar 2007 21:01

amit kumar karna and krishnanand demonstrate roll moment control...

anywho..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvBxKs8t2j8
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Postby A Sharma » 08 Mar 2007 21:06

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It was a proud moment for team ARDC when it was chosen for the Raksha Mantri's Award for Excellence (Import Substitution Category) for the years 2004-05 and 2005-06. The award was given in appreciation of their "indigenous development efforts, quality conscious approach, pursuance of excellence and foreign exchange savings in
respect of import substitution of the state of-the-art carbon fibre composites (CFC) wing skins for the Light Combat Aircraft (Tejas)".

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Postby SaiK » 16 Mar 2007 02:26

needs bold letters for these
REDUCTION IN DEFENCE EXPENDITURE DUE TO DRDO EFFORTS
17:10 IST
Lok Sabha

Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has spent about 8 - 10 % of its annual budget on fundamental research during the last three years.

DRDO is the development agency whose products, after being made by the production agency, are delivered to the users. Stringent quality systems are in place at several stages before a product is put to use. Based on the operational feedback, matters at times get referred to the development agency. Corrective actions, wherever necessary have been taken up by the DRDO.

The defence expenditure on imports has come down as a result of DRDO's projects. The cumulative value of the DRDO developed products amounts to about Rs. 30,000 crore. This amount can thus be attributed to the reduction in defence expenditure on import.

This information was given by the Defence Minister Shri AK Antony in a written reply to Shri Naveen Jindal in Lok Sabha today.

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Postby JCage » 16 Mar 2007 14:48

DRDOs products have been increasing in complexity, and hence there will be a proportionally greater proportion of cost, as they replace high end imported items.

Projects of interest-

- New MLRS, a Smerch equivalent
- Range of PGMs, with semi-active laser, GPS/INS, IIR guidance
- Radars- Low Level 3D, Long range MFCR
- ABM program driven improvements, namely the AAD which will give India a theater AD SAM
- CIDSS, for the Army, a C3I net

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Postby JCage » 16 Mar 2007 20:09

Some additional info.

LRDE has also mastered 3D Planar array tech. Interesting to see the move towards digital receivers and exciters.
Very interesting to see this.

DRDO's consortium approach is paying dividends. The usual suspects have colloborated for this particular item. 8)

Coming to the AI show, surprising nobody has discussed this on the forum..

These are also supplied by the same firm for ADA.

And check out the Astra's Ultra rugged on board computer as well.. its the semicircular one on the left.

BEL and DRDO's Battle field Management system, addresses the issue of avoiding high comms density around formations, which can be picked up by SIGINT..

Check out the MPAR/ SV-2000, with 8KW peak power (and other data ;))- this baby will have serious performance when coupled to a higher flying platform (>200 Km easy..). Tie that in with Brahmos... 8)

And the USHUS plus Panchendriya system is a holistic one, with the entire range of sonars integrated into a package.

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Postby Kakkaji » 17 Mar 2007 01:09

From dailypioneer.com. Posting in full as the URL is not archived:

Arms projects hampered by DRDO's going astray

Charging that country's frontline weapons programmes including efforts to make missiles, fighter aircraft and tanks were "running heavily behind schedule" and hit by cost overruns, a Parliamentary Committee has favoured "full scale" organisational and structural changes in the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

In a severe censure of the DRDO, the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Defence said the organisation should, henceforth, concentrate only on weapons programme and shed its research work on medical and allied fields.

"An independent committee of experts and professionals on the line of the Atomic Energy Commission and the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) be set up" to work out the restructuring of DRDO, the Committee said.

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Postby A Sharma » 17 Mar 2007 06:52

Data Patterns has been acclaimed with an ‘Industry Appreciation Award’ for its efforts in effectively designing and developing the Decoy Launcher (DLCP) and FOG-based Sensor Package for NSTL (Naval Science & Technological Laboratory), Vishakapatnam.

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Postby Gerard » 18 Mar 2007 17:48

Defence R&D body severely rapped for failing to deliver
New Delhi, March 16 (IANS) A parliamentary panel has rapped a premier defence research and development (R&D) body for failing to meet its import substitution targets by as much as 50 percent, saying huge time and cost overruns in its big ticket projects warranted a "thorough review" of the organisation's functioning.

"(We) are not happy to be informed that during the 10th Plan (2002-07), against the target fixed to reach 70 percent indigenisation, only 30-35 percent could be achieved," parliament's standing committee on defence said Friday in its report on the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

Noting that the country was still largely dependant on imports of military hardware and the DRDO "even after 48 years of its formation has not been able to achieve its targeted mission of self reliance" in defence products, the committee pointed to the "urgent need for a thorough review" of its functioning and organisational structure "to increase its efficiency".

The committee, headed by Lok Sabha MP Balasaheb Vikhe Patil (Congress), expressed its "displeasure" over the fact that the scientific advisor to the defence minister had been assigned "multifarious responsibilities" of heading the DRDO and other research establishments.

"Any officer who holds various posts simultaneously cannot be expected to devote adequate time and energy to visit R&D laboratories under him and to contact other scientific labs for motivational leadership purposes," the panel said, adding: "One person should not be entrusted with a number of responsibilities by making him hold a number of posts simultaneously."

The panel also sought greater superintendence of DRDO's functioning through an independent committee of experts and professions, as was the case with entities like the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) and the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) that "enjoy greater autonomy in their functioning, particularly with the (private) industry".

Pointing to specific projects that had been delayed, the committee was "perturbed to note" that in spite of 32 years having passed and costs having risen from Rs.150 million to Rs.3.06 billion, DRDO had not been able to deliver its Arjun main battle tank (MBT) to the Indian Army.

In the case of the Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA) and its Kaveri engine, the committee expressed "displeasure" over time and cost overruns, saying that in spite of 530 flights, the aircraft "is years away from induction into the IAF (Indian Air Force)".

To overcome such glitches, the committee that state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) and the Aeronautic Development Agency (ADA) "may be allowed to develop their own leadership and separate organisation/institution/company independent of DRDO".

Referring to the integrated guided missile development programme (IGMDP), the committee was "constrained to note" that four missiles were meant to be designed at an original cost of Rs.3.88 billion "which has now been revised substantially and their probable date of completion, which was 1995, has also been revised to 2007".

In all this, the committee noted that, "there is no scientific audit at any point of time of DRDO and its projects" and recommended that the organisation's projects "must be audited by external and independent groups of experts approved by the government.

"This will facilitate the government to understand the scientific environment, fundamentals in delays and to check growing costs and their overruns," the panel maintained.

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Postby A Sharma » 19 Mar 2007 08:42

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Dynamatic Aerospace® produces exacting Airframe Structures and Precision Aerospace components. Products include the vertical stabilisers, horizontal stabilisers, ventral fins, cannards, slats and air brakes for the Sukhoi 30MKI fighter bomber; the Wing and Rear Fuselage for the LAKSHYA, India’s Pilotless Target Aircraft; and Ailerons and Wing Flaps
for the HJT-36 Intermediate Jet Trainer. This is the first time such capabilities have been developed in the Indian Private Sector.

The Company produces the Hydraulic Transmission System for India’s T-72 Battle Tanks including Hydraulic Pumps, Hydraulic Transmission couplings and Distribution Mechanisms. Additionally, the Company has designed the Steering Control System, Turret Control System and Braking System for ARJUN Main Battle Tank.

The Aerospace division has rapidly positioned itself as India’s premier Private Sector Manufacturer of Airframe Structures. This division has commenced commercial production of the SU-30 MKI work packages, and is also actively pursuing business with HAL, for manufacture of various components for the Advanced Light Helicopter program.


Northrop Grumman, Dynamatic Technologies Limited to Team On Potential Defence Electronics Opportunities in India

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Postby amitech » 19 Mar 2007 10:24

shaardula wrote:amit kumar karna and krishnanand demonstrate roll moment control...

anywho..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvBxKs8t2j8


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Postby Singha » 19 Mar 2007 10:29

hmm NITW ECE.....is "bulla laxmi" and "KP" still on combat patrol ? also is "prof Sindhu" still around - my favourite ece prof, the rest interactions were made very painful for CS students...

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Postby Gerard » 22 Mar 2007 05:19

From Hindustan Times ePaper

THE MINISTRY of Defence is not happy with the performance of army officers it sends on deputation to the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO). Drawn from the technical arms of the Army, these 200-odd officers are included in various DRDO project teams for a period of three to four years to provide user inputs. In a mood to revamp the system, the MoD told the Standing Committee on Defence, which tabled its report on DRDO in Parliament last week: "the moment the officers go to the DRDO, they forget the olive green uniform and their performance is not satisfactory....' The MoD wants officers to report back to the user (armed forces) every quarter about the progress of the projects. Any modification or thought-process change in the equipment being developed should be examined every three to six months, it says. But a former DRDO scientist remained skeptical. "The proposed reporting norms will achieve little. After all, how much progress is made every three months." The MoD cited the Arjun tank to tell the Committee that things were going wrong despite the user's presence and the inadequate contribution of the officers. "We want to change the system. The projects have to be userdriven." The MoD also articulated the DRDO's difficulties in the course of its interaction with the users. The MoD says the main problem is that the general staff qualitative requirements (GSQR) given by the forces are unrealistic. Another DRDO grouse is that indigenous products are subjected to exhaustive trials while imported systems are readily accepted. The Committee has recommended that the forces should not introduce major changes in the GSQR. It has also suggested the DRDO consider outsourcing to avoid delay in production. The Committee feels compulsory financial participation of the users in various projects could increase user involvement.

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Postby vina » 22 Mar 2007 05:37

Gerard wrote:
THE MINISTRY of Defence is not happy with the performance of army officers it sends on deputation to the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO). Drawn from the technical arms of the Army, these 200-odd officers are included in various DRDO project teams for a period of three to four years to provide user inputs. In a mood to revamp the system, the MoD told the Standing Committee on Defence, which tabled its report on DRDO in Parliament last week: "the moment the officers go to the DRDO, they forget the olive green uniform and their performance is not satisfactory....' The MoD wants officers to report back to the user (armed forces) every quarter about the progress of the projects. Any modification or thought-process change in the equipment being developed should be examined every three to six months, it says. But a former DRDO scientist remained skeptical. "The proposed reporting norms will achieve little. After all, how much progress is made every three months." The MoD cited the Arjun tank to tell the Committee that things were going wrong despite the user's presence and the inadequate contribution of the officers. "We want to change the system. The projects have to be userdriven." The MoD also articulated the DRDO's difficulties in the course of its interaction with the users. The MoD says the main problem is that the general staff qualitative requirements (GSQR) given by the forces are unrealistic. Another DRDO grouse is that indigenous products are subjected to exhaustive trials while imported systems are readily accepted. The Committee has recommended that the forces should not introduce major changes in the GSQR. It has also suggested the DRDO consider outsourcing to avoid delay in production. The Committee feels compulsory financial participation of the users in various projects could increase user involvement.


All motherhood and apple pie stuff. Any sane person with even a teeny weeny bit of sense would tell you that that MoD is part of the huge structural problems with Indian defense, R&D and systems development. Fundamentally the procurement system is broke and it is amazing at all that things get bought give then absolutely torturous and byzantine bureaucratic labyrinth the MoD is. It is a stalinist bureaucracy which had its turf well protected under the protective "defense" --> holy cow syndrome and it being walled off from liberalization and the winds of change because of that.

If "Huffy" and "Tuffy" is the finest the Army can come up with then god save us.. The army definitely needs to get some folks in its "technical" branches, who can actually think beyond just repairing and maintaining stuff that they use.. They need more than just glorified mechanics and more people with program management and planning experience.. teams that have identified requirements for new systems and inducted them into service.. Sure they may not have any of those as of now, but alteast they will have teams that inducted new weapons into the forces.. Those would be the folks to start with..

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Postby shiv » 22 Mar 2007 06:37

Gerard wrote:From Hindustan Times ePaper

MoD told the Standing Committee on Defence, which tabled its report on DRDO in Parliament last week: "the moment the officers go to the DRDO, they forget the olive green uniform and their performance is not satisfactory....' ..
..Another DRDO grouse is that indigenous products are subjected to exhaustive trials while imported systems are readily accepted.
..
The Committee feels compulsory financial participation of the users in various projects could increase user involvement.

:rotfl:

At long last - public recognition that the rot is not restricted to the boffins.

We are ALLlike that only. All castes equal equal

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Postby Vick » 22 Mar 2007 06:38

Forbidding the end user from changing the GSQR is akin to throwing the baby out with the bath water.

The better approach would be have the end user sign a contract for a product that meets the GSQR within a certain time frame. If the GSQR or the time frame is not met by the design agency, the end user should have the right to leave the project, stick with it till it meets the GSQR or change the GSQRs but still stick with the project. And of course, the end user needs to commit funds, not just the design agency.

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Postby shiv » 22 Mar 2007 07:47

Vick wrote:The better approach would be have the end user sign a contract for a product that meets the GSQR within a certain time frame. If the GSQR or the time frame is not met by the design agency, the end user should have the right to leave the project, stick with it till it meets the GSQR or change the GSQRs but still stick with the project. And of course, the end user needs to commit funds, not just the design agency.


I have no argument with this concept - but I believe that this is more likely to work when the technology and skills to achieve something are available in India.

Typically a project is undertaken to develop something in India. That something is already available abroad.

The argument can then be "If the technology is already available abroad, why try to develop it here at all. Why enter into a meaningless deal with an Indian entity to develop something in India when we can get it off the shelf abroad"

The answer to that has been "because that tech is sanctionable - so we are better off doing it on our own"

But if we are doing it on our own - time limits are difficult to set.

New technology that appears from labs is never a time-bound affair - not even in phoren - although its application, once developed can be time bound.

india has to use a via media approach which cannot be defined except in general terms like " maximizing benefit and minimizing risk"

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Postby amitech » 22 Mar 2007 09:14

Singha wrote:hmm NITW ECE.....is "bulla laxmi" and "KP" still on combat patrol ? also is "prof Sindhu" still around - my favourite ece prof, the rest interactions were made very painful for CS students...


Well we, the 3rd yr ECE batch, have been lucky, as the none have taken our classes till now... i hope we ll get saved in final yr too.

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Postby Raj Malhotra » 22 Mar 2007 09:14

Why DRDO alone, all sector which are touched by Govt turns to mess!

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Postby Sumeet » 23 Mar 2007 06:57

Cross-Post:

India's TCS details from Janes IDR March 07 by Rupert Pengelley

*Brig. AK Gakhar presented paper on TCS architecture at DEFCOM 06.
http://www.ciidefence.com/events/DefCom06/

*Programme Management Office TCS issued a detailed RFI to potential prime contractors/system Integrators, due for submission in March 07.

*In order to be considered the SI should have fielded a 4th generation or similar Tactical network in modern western army in post 2000 timeframe.

*Paper cited Australian Defense Force's Battlespace Communication System - Land, Thales RITA 2000, Cormorant/Falcon from EADS/BAE Systems Insyte & JNN/WIN-T from General Dynamics C4 Systems.

*IA wants tactical info grid based on wide area, local area, mobile communication, tactical data distribution & tactical airborne subsystems.

*Some of the features for TCS were Multi protocol switching capbility [to incl IPv4/v6], high capacity radio data relay, SATCOM & finally Software Defined Radios.

*Main part of TCS is valued at 700 million USD for 7 army corps.

*Most Likely prime contractor will be BEL. But some in army and indian political hierarchy desire to include a private sector company like Tata Power to compete with BEL. Other less likely companies from private sector include L&T, Mahindra Brit Telecom & Wipro.

*An indian comany Precision Electronics Limited wants to be sub-system & services supplier. Also wants to supply:
High capacity LOS radio 92/8/34/155 Mb/s)
Bulk Encryption units
Access-Link Encryptors
Military WiFi
Unit Level Exchanges
Radio Interoperability gateways
Telescopic Masts
Military Grade Power Supplies
Ruggedization Services
System Integration on Vechile Platform.

*Precision electronics PST-34M HCLOS radio was under army evaluation in 2006. Previously army had conducted field trials of similar equipment from tadiran, selex, thales & Ultra. Contract for this radio which could also form large part of TCS will be awarded in late 07.

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Postby JCage » 23 Mar 2007 13:10

http://www.pelindia.com/newsDetails.asp?NewsId=42

PEL Army trials of PST34M Radio at Hissar successful
2 October 2006
PEL developed 8/34 MB radio for military tactical deployment has undergone successful field trial against Army RFP at Hissar during August 06. The radio met and exceeded customer expectations. Many other PEL developed accessories viz. Automatic Antenna Alignment (AAA), Pneumatic mast, High gain antenna, power systems were also technically evaluated by the user for deployment in tactical time frames.

PEL is the only Company to offer a fully indigenously developed radio. Competition profile includes the who’s who of the international MILCOM suppliers.


PST-34M: 8/34 Mbps Tactical LOS Radio

They should cooperate with BEL/ DRDO for Crypto to interface with existing Indian products, improve the MMI, fit and finish of the overall product (assist in exports..) and the Army should make it the preferred solution.

As far as comms is concerned, more Indian stuff, the better.
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Postby JCage » 23 Mar 2007 13:17

I had posted the PEL website before, but they have updated it.

http://www.pelindia.com/newsDetails.asp?NewsId=23

PEL delivers Project Parikshak of the Indian Army
20 January 2006
The ongoing project to create the complete "Test Bed" based on nine vehicles for adaptation of state - of - art technology based COTS equipment for military application, was completed on 25th Dec. 2005. The project entailed ruggedization and adaptation of a large number of COTS equipment which included Multi-service switch, Servers, IPABX, LAN/ WAN components, Media Gateways and Transmission systems for military applications in Mobile operations.



http://www.pelindia.com/newsDetails.asp?NewsId=41

PEL at Roorkee
22 February 2007
Ground breaking ceremony was done in August. Construction is moving at a fast pace and is on schedule for completion by April 2007.

This unit has been designed for manufacture of MILCOM systems and would provide PEL the ability to bid for and deliver in time MILCOM systems that are being sought by our Armed Forces.

The new unit is located at Plot No.9 &10 (area 6800 square meters), KIE Industrial Estate, Village: Mundiyaki, Mangalore, District: Roorkee, Haridwar, Uttranchal-247667, India.


http://www.pelindia.com/newsDetails.asp?NewsId=38
PST-12M Secured Radio Communication System
16 January 2006
PST-12M radios supplied to the Armed Forces have been deployed in the Northeast India.

PST-12M, a portable secure voice and data communication system designed for rapid deployment in rough environmental conditions and remote areas.

The system is being evaluated by other Army Units.


The PST-12M

http://www.pelindia.com/newsDetails.asp?NewsId=45

THALES evaluates PEL for future supply of products
15 January 2007
PEL has been evaluated by Thales, France, a leading multi-national electronics and systems group serving defense, aerospace and security markets worldwide. The evaluation was to assess PEL capability in relation to human capital index, infrastructure, operational system, process effectiveness and efficiency for supply of Masts & Power Supplies for its global operations

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Postby mandrake » 23 Mar 2007 18:06

Is it just me or in the pelindia website they are using the same Glogan as the one LM uses? "We never forget whom we are working for" :P

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Postby Vipul » 24 Mar 2007 06:44

BHEL mulls defence sector foray.

India’s largest power and transmission equipment manufacturer, state-owned Bharat Heavy Electricals (BHEL), is planning to produce defence equipment, including weapons.

It is likely to manufacture all types of guns, including field guns, air defence guns, and mortars for the Indian defence sector and para-military forces. The listed company has also firmed up plans to produce underwater weapon systems, weapon control solutions and its components.

Sources said the company had already applied for a licence to produce defence products. BHEL executives confirmed the development but declined to divulge details.

At present, Ordnance Factory Board is the only public sector undertaking that manufactures arms and ammunition.

In the defence space, BHEL will have to compete with leading private players such as Larsen & Toubro (L&T), Tata Power, Mahindra & Mahindra (M&M), Godrej Industries, Kirloskar Brothers, Ashok Leyland, Jindal, Max Aerospace & Aviation and Ramoss India.

According to industry analysts, defence production is turning lucrative as the defence sector is augmenting its weapon infrastructure.

“Moreover, the companies which have secured a licence will benefit from the offset policy announced by the Ministry of Defence. According to the offset policy, overseas players bagging Indian defence contracts will have to source 30 per cent of the defence requirements through Indian companies,â€

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Postby vina » 25 Mar 2007 07:36

[quote="Vipul"]
“BHEL has plans to enter defence avionics by manufacturing all types of components for unmanned air vehicles, aerostats, and unmanned aerial combat vehicles. The company will also make necessary air-borne assemblies and related systems,â€

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Postby JCage » 25 Mar 2007 07:48

Actually they can think very well and they can become a major player as well. Think offsets, think RUR and think PSU with a proven stay around capability which will ensure that they will be given serious consideration.

Whether its good for India's MIC is however, a different issue- those concerns come on the lines of what you have stated. But even there, if BHEL ponies up the money to set up an infrastructure that rivals BELs, then it will be a huge plus for India, for a variety of reasons- since for all their big talk, there is still no private firm which has done so. BELs facilities are already overstrained, and it would be a netplus for India if another private-public ecosystem was created for sensors and production re: same. They already do have work going on in the embedded domain, and besides- what they are looking at is large scale system integration, overall production- they can in fact outsource most of the individual development to private manufacturers.

The most important question is whether BHEL will be held accountable to the standards expected of it- ie it will choose the hard part of TOT and own manufacture and not act as the local shill for any foreign player who wants to bypass the gatekeepers of BEL/DRDO who insist on TOT come what may. By trying to use the BHEL PSU tag and try to clear this hurdle.

Time will tell...

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Postby Vick » 25 Mar 2007 08:17

JCage wrote:The most important question is whether BHEL will be held accountable to the standards expected of it- ie it will choose the hard part of TOT and own manufacture and not act as the local shill for any foreign player who wants to bypass the gatekeepers of BEL/DRDO who insist on TOT come what may. By trying to use the BHEL PSU tag and try to clear this hurdle.

Wasn't BHEL setting up an Arjun chassis line for the Bhim? With SoKo K9 turret as a possible replacement for the T6, will BHEL follow through with creating the Arjun chassis line?

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Postby Rupak » 25 Mar 2007 10:05

No that was BEML

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Postby Vick » 25 Mar 2007 10:09

Rupak wrote:No that was BEML

That's right. Thanks for the correction. I wonder what ever happened to the infrastructure created for the Arjun chassis there.

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Postby Singha » 25 Mar 2007 10:54

I am sure they will try for SoKo turret on T90 chassis because german engine and gearbox is costly.

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Postby SaiK » 28 Mar 2007 04:06

Deccan Herald » Edit Page » Detailed Story
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Under fire
DRDO has turned out to be a white elephant.


The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has recently come under fire for major project failures. The Parliamentary Standing Committee on defence has in its report criticised the research organisation for its poor track record in project management. The DRDO's 51 laboratories are mandated to conduct research on diverse facets of science and technology -- from aeronautics and armaments to life sciences and information technology to missiles and metallurgy -- in order to develop self-reliance in military technologies. Clearly the reasons for the DRDO's dismal track record have to do with poor human resource management, lack of sufficient user involvement in design stage and an absence of enabling technologies, among other issues.

Despite 1400 scientists and engineers quitting over the last decade the government has not acted on a list of incentives the DRDO has recommended for its scientists in July 2001.These recommendations include royalty-sharing schemes, upgrading allowances and financial assistance for laptops and conferences. The DRDO can no longer afford to be complacent and lose talent from its labs especially in Bangalore or Hyderabad to the IT industry. It is high time that the Defence Ministry realises that the DRDO – which is engaged in creative and innovative research – needs to be perceived differently from other mainline government organisations involved in pushing files. The DRDO therefore merits an entirely different salary structure, perks and foreign travel norms from those of bureaucrats, so that it can retain talent and accomplish its goals.

The DRDO is not subjected to an external audit. Nor is there any performance reportage of its projects. Instead it has sought to obtain greater autonomy from the government and evolve into a commission like the Space Commission in order to block any interference in its work. Despite four decades of existence and a lot of money spent the gains are not really tangible to the extent that armed forces as a user remains unhappy with the DRDO. With almost 30,000 staff strength and a Rs 5,453 crore budget the DRDO has turned to be a white elephant. Major projects like the Trishul missile or the Rs 383 crore Kaveri jet engine, besides many others, have either been aborted or failed to satisfactorily meet the military’s requirements. The DRDO's inability to successfully complete projects on schedule leads to imports, defeating the purpose of its existence. A drain on the exchequer, it is time that the DRDO is spruced up to meet new challenges ahead.

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Postby shyamd » 28 Mar 2007 21:26

A’bad-based company gives dome-shield to Indian Army
[quote]Soumik Dey

Surat, March 27: An Ahmedabad firm is supplying high tech domes to Indian Army divisions in forward posts and divisional headquarters in Delhi, J&K and Gujarat. The Indian Navy has already secured some of these high-tech domes and is in the process of securing more for its bases in Vizag and Jamnagar.

These domes, made of a space-age composite material are bullet-proof and fire-proof. They have served their purpose in operations of the US, German and Japan Armies.


Manufactured by the Ahmedabad-based Domes International Ltd (DIL) these domes are made of organic material and composite polyester resin mixed with glass.

Originally designed by the German Army after the World War-II, this material, according to a certification from the Director General of Quality Assurance can take a load of upto 4 tonnes per square-inch.

“This is possible because of the unique properties of the compound and the traditional dome structure that distributes the weight evenly. The composite material panels used in the domes have a level-II ballistic resistance and are fire retardant. It can withstand blasts,â€

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