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something fishy fishy.. very fishy !!!

Another slip of the tongue about the mystery strategic system!
This is a great achievement for several young scientists. I feel proud about the success of Agni- 3 missile. The DRDO has recently launched a strategic missile, which was another success. The Agni-3 can strengthen the economic position and border security of the country,â€
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Last 3 video's of the same.

Video 1

Video 2

Video 3
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Arun S,
Look at the Tip of the nose cone of Agni III image at Page 9 Hindustan Times, Delhi edition
E-paper: http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/defaul ... .jpg&ed=47
(Reg. Reqd.)

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a plane at 35000ft could well see the hot blob of the RV against the dark blue sky above it. visibility should be excellent at such height.

I wonder if he saw three yellow arcs lancing down to indicate dummy MIRV payloads :twisted:
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Cant be GD as the launch video shows the single warhead nosecone.
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A hearty congratulations to all those responsible for the successful launch of Agni-III.

Arun ji tussi phir cha gaye.... Guru.

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The super excellent analysis of Arun has shown that Agni-3 is a definite version which has enough juice to take us through atleast 2-3 decades with minor modifications/enhancements.
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All ATC in th region that includes Kolkata,Bhubaneswar,Vizag and Kalalikunda were advised of impending agni test 24 hrs in advance and notams were routinely issued .

So the strange part is how the indonesian commercial jet was allowed to cross andamans and approach the land fall point near khammam near andhra pradesh on the high altitude east west air ways or the air india jet allowed to fly over andamans when it was kknown to every one that an inter continental ballistic missile on intersecting flight path was about to be launched

There is some kind of rule that while an IFR clearance is issue at the originating airport in this case jakarta and singapore all NOTAM issued on the sector are checked both by the originating air trafic control and the pilot .Same is true as the flight enters chennai centre airspace somewhere over andamans and kolkata centre some where inbetween vizag and bhubaneswar

Strange none of the regional centres noticed the two civilian aircraft entering the flight zone of agni 3 .Surely some sukhois/jags from car nicobar could have been used to drive them off if found nessecery

This could have been a disaster not just for the aircraft but also for agni 3
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While the actual range of Agni-3 is classified,I have no doubt apart from the fact that the range varies depending upon the type of warhead/warheads used and that depending upon the payload,the missile has the potential to even reach a range of 5000km.The next missile that we test hopefully will be declared right away as an ICBM.
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The launch of the longest-range Agni, which means "fire" in the Sanskrit language, came after a failed test last July when the missile plunged into the Bay of Bengal after take-off.
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"Yes, the test was absolutely successful," W. Selvamurthy, a senior official of the Defense Research and Development Organization, which designed the missile, told Reuters.

"It took off at 10:50 a.m. (0520 GMT) and landed at 11:05 a.m.," he said. "We are absolutely satisfied with all the results and we have rectified the errors of last year's failure. It met all the target coordinates."

The missile was launched from Wheeler island off India's eastern coast.

India has around 100 to 150 nuclear warheads and staged tests in 1974 and 1998.
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India test-fires nuclear-capable missil

April 12, 2007 - 4:27PM
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India has successfully test-fired on Thursday a new missile capable of carrying nuclear warheads across much of Asia and the Middle East, a Defence Ministry spokesman said.

"The entire test had text book precision," ministry spokesman Sitanshu Kar said.
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ndia tests intermediate range nuclear capable missile
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Thursday 12th April, 2007
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Indian scientists successfully tested a fire-and-forget Agni-III Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile (IRBM) Thursday.

Fired from the Wheeler Island in the Bay of Bengal on India's eastern coast, the missile reached its designated target in 15 minutes in the Indian Ocean, proving the success of the Made-in-India propulsion and guidance systems, Ministry of Defence (MoD) spokesman Sitanshu Kar told IANS.

He did not say how far the dummy target was but indications are that it was around 3,000-km away, and the impact of the missile's kinetic energy and the explosion of the single, conventional warhead had the desired result.

'It was a textbook launch with precision hit,' Kar said adding that ground control did not guide the missile although stations along India's eastern coast, Andaman and Nicobar Islands, and two naval ships monitored the flight path.

Details are likely to be made public after the test parameters are assessed and a report of the newly acquired capability is submitted to the government.
Agni-III is the most advanced of the Agni series of missiles. It carries fuel both for propulsion and mid-course corrections if required to fine-tune itself with pre-programmed target coordinates.
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Perfect mission: Scientific Adviser to Defence Minister
T.S.Subramanian

An autonomous missile. Once launched, it did not depend on any command: DRDO official

# It met all the mission requirements
# Maturing of our minimum, credible nuclear deterrent

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LIFT-OFF: In this frame grab from a video made available by the Defence Ministry, Agni III, a new missile, is test fired from the Wheeler Island off Orissa on Thursday.

CHENNAI: There is a lot about Agni III that makes India proud, not the least of them is the fact that it is India's own missile to the last nut and bolt.

The long-range missile's strength, according to the present and former top brass of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), was that it was totally indigenously developed.

M. Natarajan, Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister, who described Thursday's Agni III flight as "a perfect mission," said: "It is a very significant success, particularly when the entire design, planning, material construction, execution and everything associated with the mission was indigenous. Such an effort is vital for the strategic system of our country."

The series of successes in the last six months, including that of the Prithvi interceptor missile, the launch of Dhanush, the success of another strategic system and now the Agni III "signify that we are maturing in these difficult technologies," said Mr. Natarajan, who witnessed the launch. Unmindful of the maiden Agni III's failure last year, the DRDO scientists worked hard, analysed the failure from the telemetry of the previous mission, did a lot of reviews and took corrective action which led to this success, added Mr. Natarajan.

Prahlada, Chief Controller, R and D, DRDO (Services Interaction), said: "The strength of the mission was that the entire system was totally indigenously developed, the missile's hardware and software, instrumentation, tracking systems and so on." Dr. Prahlada called it "a great flight." It was a totally autonomous missile. Once it was launched, it did not depend on any command or signal from the ground. "It is an intelligent missile," added Dr. Prahlada, who witnessed the flight.

"Excellent flight"

Dr. A. Sivathanu Pillai, CEO and Managing Director, BrahMos Aerospace Limited, praised the total indigenous content of Agni III. "It was an excellent flight. It met all the mission requirements. We have reached a major milestone of realising the IRBM [intermediate range ballistic missile] capability beyond 3,000 km. A number of new technologies, including the re-entry technology for this class of missiles, have been tested. We are proud of the Agni III team," said Dr. Pillai.

BrahMos supersonic cruised missile had been inducted into the Navy and it would be soon given to the Army, he said.

K. Santhanam, former Chief Adviser to DRDO, commented: "We have chosen indigenous development for our growth. This is a robust way of building our minimum deterrent." Dr. Santhanam, who was former Director General, Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses, New Delhi, called the Agni III success a "maturing of our minimum, credible nuclear deterrent. The success of Agni III is an important milestone on the road to our achieving a credible nuclear deterrent."

In May 1998, India conducted five nuclear tests, which gave it confidence in terms of its nuclear weapons. However, a credible delivery system was needed to carry these weapons but an aircraft as a delivery system was vulnerable. Dr. Santhanam said: "So you need missiles, whether they are surface-to-surface missiles or submarine-launched missiles. A submarine-launched missile will be an effective deterrent because its survival capability is high compared to a land system. A missile launched from a silo will be a sitting duck. The vulnerability of a missile launched from land can be reduced by making it mobile, either road or rail mobile. To that extent, Agni III has this dispersal and mobility." Since Agni III's diameter was two metres, its thrust would be high, its range was wide and it could carry heavier payloads with a larger volume. "To get into surface-to-surface missiles of long range class, you should have an engine of large diameter, be it powered by solid or liquid propellants. World over, the trend is to go for missiles fuelled by solid propellants because they have what is called QRA (quick reaction alert)," said Dr. Santhanam.

Those who witnessed the flight included Minister of State for Defence M.M. Pallam Raju, Vice-Chief of Air Staff Air Marshal B.N. Gokhale, and Strategic Forces Commander Vice-Admiral Vijay Shankar.

The entire sequence of the Agni III's flight was tracked by radars at the Integrated Test Range at Chandipur-on-sea near Balasore, Orissa; the Outer Wheeler Island, Dhamra on the coast of Orissa; Port Blair and ships stationed at impact points in the Bay of Bengal. "All [stations] reported data reception and from this we can conclude that the mission met all its requirements," said DRDO officials.

Agni III is a product of the Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL), Hyderabad, which is a unit of DRDO.

ASL Director Avinash Chander was the Programme Director of this mission. The Project Director was Dr. V.G. Sekharan.

The launch took place from the Outer Wheeler Island in the Bay of Bengal, nine km from Dhamra on the Orissa coast or 70 km as the crow flies from the ITR Chandipur-on-sea.

Agni III weighs 48.3 tonnes and stands 16.7 metres tall. It has a diameter of two metres. It can carry nuclear warheads weighing one tonne. Its range is about 3,500 km and it can target many parts of China.

The former and present DRDO officials lauded the role of R.N. Agarwal, former ASL Director, in the Agni III development.

Manmohan 's praise

PTI reports from New Delhi:

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Thursday said the successful testing of nuclear-capable Agni-III missile as an ``impressive illustration'' of India mastering the strategic high technologies to uphold national security.

Felicitating all those associated with the test-launch, he said ``it is an impressive illustration of the indigenous capacity developed by our scientists and technologists in mastering strategic high technologies essential for maintaining the nation's defence and security.''
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Agni-III, given its range of 3,000 kilometers, has been specifically NEW DELHI - Even as India celebrates the successful test-firing on Thursday of its h
ome-grown Agni-III intermediate-range ballistic missile - capable of delivering a 1.5-tonne nuclear or conventional payload over much of Asia - officials admit that the test had the tacit approval of the United States.

The US is striving to build India as a strategic counterweight to China, along with Japan and Australia.

ccording to reports last year, Washington put pressure on New Delhi to agree to a future moratorium on testing of dual-use missile technology that could be used to deliver a nuclear payload and testing another designed to build a minimum nuclear deterrence against China, with cities such as Beijing and Shanghai very much in the radar. Agni-III is said to possess a high degree of accuracy with a medium-to-large nuclear payload.

part from gaining more security muscle in the region, the success of Agni-III is significant on other counts. The maiden test of Agni-III failed last July 9, so Indian scientists had to work on the technical glitches.

hus the timing of the Agni-III test seems to be right. Politically, the Congress-led New Delhi government has been criticized for being feeble to India's internal and external security threats, because of repeated terrorist attacks and the need to tread carefully in dealing with Beijing.
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[quote="rakall"]something fishy fishy.. very fishy !!!
Another slip of the tongue about the mystery strategic system!
This is a great achievement for several young scientists. I feel proud about the success of Agni- 3 missile. The DRDO has recently launched a strategic missile, which was another success. The Agni-3 can strengthen the economic position and border security of the country,â€
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[quote]something fishy fishy.. very fishy !!!
Another slip of the tongue about the mystery strategic system!
This is a great achievement for several young scientists. I feel proud about the success of Agni- 3 missile. The DRDO has recently launched a strategic missile, which was another success. The Agni-3 can strengthen the economic position and border security of the country,â€
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Doubt it to be PAD
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I think he is referring to PAD. Ministers arent psyops-y or foolish enough in india to make these plays or slips.

ofcourse it is entire possible they tested a SLBM under a Dhanush cover BUT those who need to know already know of that via satellite imagery, we dont need slips in the media for that.
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ASL Director Avinash Chander was the Programme Director of this mission. The Project Director was Dr. V.G. Sekharan.
Avinesh Chander and Dr Sekharan ( the bearded guy as seen in WOP ) have been associated with Agni program from its very inception.

Infact many of todays biggies leading other strategic project like Dr Pillai , Dr Saraswat and old hat like Dr Agarwal , Sundaram to name a few have all been associated with the Agni project during some part of their DRDO long career.

Its really heartning and amazing to know what IGMDP has developed over the period of time both in Men and Material
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DD News:

"Bharat ne kal antar-mahadweep parmanu saksham Agni-III missile ka pareekshan kiya".
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DRDO: In three years we will have an ICBM ready
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After Agni test, US calls for caution.

Agni-III tested, gives Delhi capability to reach Beijing which says: work for peace.

Hmm Pandapoker talking Peace :twisted: , wonder what the reactions will be after the launch of Agni ++/IV and Surya-I. :) :wink:
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Arun, whats your estimate for Agni 3++ strike capability? Will it have the capability to hit anywhere in China from anywhere in India with a 1 ton payload?
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folks did ya know that only very recently as around 2006 the PRC has managed to launch a SLBM JL-2 prototype from a submerged platform ?

the lone Xia has to surface to fire its JL-1 missiles which makes it little better than a more expensive Sukanya OPV.

and as per the declassified USN report on PLAN the Xia hasnt managed a single deterrent patrol in its miserable existence.

and their submarine patrol rate outside of coastal water is woeful to say the least. the Han SSN is a paper tiger, more a test horse for technologies
than a weaponised system.

we are going to take the panda down off the tree and spank it soundly.
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Was AIII picture really released in June 2006?
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ICBM with 5,500-km range can be developed in three years: DRDO

NEW DELHI, APR 13 (PTI)
With the successful launch of the nuclear-capable Agni-III, India has achieved the capability to develop an inter-continental ballistic missile to strike at targets 5,500 km away within the next two to three years, top defence scientists said today.

"We have achieved the capability to make missiles with a range of 3,500 km to 5,500 km but the decision (to develop an ICBM) has to be taken by the political leadership," Defence Research and Development Organisation chief M Natarajan said here.

"DRDO scientists are working on miniaturising the systems of the Agni-III so that a third stage can be squeezed into the 16-metre-long missile to enable it to go up to 5,500 km with the same 1.5-tonne payload," Natarajan said a day after the first successful launch of the 3,000-km Agni-III.

Agni-III will also be converted into a submarine-launched ballistic missile to open more second-strike options for the country, DRDO scientists told reporters during a briefing.

Pointing out that Agni-III had been tested to almost its full range of 3,000 km, mission director Avinash Chander said the missile would become "fully operational" after two to three more launches to be carried out in the next three years.

DRDO has drawn up a busy schedule of tests for its diverse range of indigenous missiles, with the second test of its missile defence system set for August or October. The organisation is also planning user trials for its surface-to -air Akash missile and fourth generation anti-tank Nag missile.

Chander said Agni-I, with a range of 700 km, had already been inducted into the army while the country's first fully solid-state missile, the 2,000-km Agni-II, is currently being inducted.

Asked whether the proposed ICBM would be christened Surya, Natarajan said it be given a name derived from the Agni series.

For the first time, Chander said, DRDO had acted only as an integrating agency with the Agni-III, with most of the missile's components being made by private industry. A total of 258 private firms and 20 DRDO laboratories were involved in this venture.

"This is why there were no production delays and the next missile is being readied in parallel," he said.

"Agni-III is the first Indian missile to have crossed the equator," said Chander, adding that the detonation of the missile's warhead had been recorded and would be analysed.

Asked how much composite material had been used in the missile, he said: "Left to me, I would like to make it an all-composite missile as the use of more carbon-composites can make Agni-III lighter to increase its payload and range."

Sounding a word of caution, Natarajan said that there were "constraints" in manufacturing the Agni missiles in large numbers. The number to be made would be decided in consultation with the armed forces, he said.

The DRDO chief said his organisation had also faced a lot of constraints in rectifying faults that had led to the failure of the Agni-III's first test last year as the country lacked adequate ground test facilities for checking critical missile components.

Chander said some of the firsts established by yesrterday's launch included a "flex nozzle control" for the rocket motor, a specially developed composite propellant, a guidance and control system with "built-in fault tolerant avionics" and systems to withstand the "severe aero-thermal environment" experienced during re-entry.
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I think it is the SLV
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Vipul wrote:Hmm Pandapoker talking Peace :twisted: , wonder what the reactions will be after the launch of Agni ++/IV and Surya-I. :) :wink:
Indo Chinese boundary dispute will be over. The middle kingdom will realize their ancient cartographers made a typo and Arunachal Pradesh was always Indian territory. India will get an 'observer' status in Shanghai Cooperatin Organization but to the utter bafflement of China, the very next week, Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgystan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistant will ask for India to be included as a member given its 'proximity' to Shanghai. Back at the UN-Club, Chinese babu will invoke the provisions of 'Ying-Yang and Chi Management' to prevent a 6th chair being placed around the sacred table... in futility of course.

Not to mention, US 7th fleet will be barred from entering the Indian ocean keeping in mind Indian 'sensitivities' and later reassigned to the Pacific. :wink:
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[quote="Gerard"][quote="rakall"]something fishy fishy.. very fishy !!!
Another slip of the tongue about the mystery strategic system!
This is a great achievement for several young scientists. I feel proud about the success of Agni- 3 missile. The DRDO has recently launched a strategic missile, which was another success. The Agni-3 can strengthen the economic position and border security of the country,â€
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"Agni-III is the first Indian missile to have crossed the equator," said Chander, adding that the detonation of the missile's warhead had been recorded and would be analysed.
:eek:

So, a test with actual warhead (conventional? Nuclear sans the fissile material?) that impacted not off Car Nicobar, but closer to Indonesia?
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So R.N. Agrawal's dream has been realized ha Arun.
Note the meaning of the first missile to cross the equator( means large range) and the explosion at the end. So fuzing has been verified too. Accuracy verified with the location of the impact point.

The bolded parts of the DRDO chief's statement show the trajectory that they are workign on.

Arun he confirms almost all your estimates!

It is very critical that the next one have a large throw weight (1.5tonne) to ensure maximum credibility to the MND.

Where was AK Anthony during the test?
We know MMS was in Delhi, and the Vice-Adm SFC was at the site.
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Agni scares Garuda

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Now this would have been a nice headline: Agni scares Garuda. :lol:
Subheading: Indra and Vishnu to look into the matter.

Though the reports do not mention passengers making a visual contact, it would have been cool/awesome and petrifying at the same time to see a missile streaking over the sky through an airplane window.
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That gives lot much more credibility to suggestion that a single payload may weigh just 350-400 Kg. Look at A-3 range graph now.
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Arun, ramana: What kind of test would be needed to validate RV reentry for 12000KM range?
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Agni-III will also be converted into a submarine-launched ballistic missile to open more second-strike options for the country, DRDO scientists told reporters during a briefing.
So we can expect an all composite , 12 m long and 2 m diameter for India's SLBM , Should give an idea about the dimension of india's SSBN
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ramana wrote:So R.N. Agrawal's dream has been realized ha Arun.
Note the meaning of the first missile to cross the equator( means large range) and the explosion at the end. So fuzing has been verified too. Accuracy verified with the location of the impact point.

The bolded parts of the DRDO chief's statement show the trajectory that they are workign on.

Arun he confirms almost all your estimates!

It is very critical that the next one have a large throw weight (1.5tonne) to ensure maximum credibility to the MND.

Where was AK Anthony during the test?
We know MMS was in Delhi, and the Vice-Adm SFC was at the site.
Surely R.N. Agrawal must be a happy man, but such projects are the result of a big team that has toiled to put sweat and soul to make this reality. It is this team of few people who that carried the burden of safety of 1.2 billion Indians.

A big Thank You to the Agni-3 Team


Yes Ramana, looks like I was right after all, and the laws of Physics and logic hold true even today ;)
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