Hawk crashes

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Post by rrao »

Meenaji,


you have mixed up HPT-32 crash and Hawk crash together! You too want to "FIX" HAL?
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Post by Surya »

rrao

relax

shes posting a news link
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Post by shiv »

rrao wrote:
you have mixed up HPT-32 crash and Hawk crash together! You too want to "FIX" HAL?
Technically nrao is right. From the days when the IAF accident rate was high there has been a thread called "flight safety" in which news links of accidents should be placed.

This thread was a special for this unique case.
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Post by shiv »

cross post
http://www.financialexpress.com/news/BA ... es/318757/
BAE joins IAF blame game on Hawk spares
Huma Siddiqui
Posted online: Thursday , June 05, 2008 at 2323 hrs IST


New Delhi, Jun 4 Even as Indian Air Force cries foul over spares supply by its UK suppliers, BAE Systems has put a question mark on the optimal utilisation of Hawk advance jet trainers fleet by the services. Sources talking to FE on condition of anonymity said that, "There will be serviceability problems. The Indian Air Forcedid not order the required spares until very late and not all those spares have been received yet because of long lead times for manufacturing."
The supplementary spares package which contains 1400 lines of spares, was submitted in February 2006 and was not contracted until January 2008 despite repeated reminders, sources said. This follows claims by the IAF there are problems with servicability of the aircraft as the UK based BAE Systems is not fulfilling its commitment of supplying of modern spare parts for the aircraft.
Sources also revealed that the Hawk AJTis just being flown by Indian Air Force for merely a few hours a week. “The Bidar air force station in Karnataka which is currently getting ready to train the IAF cadets is hardly flying the aircraft for more than a few hours a week. So, how can there be a question of serviceability, when the machines are not being used,"sources pointed out.
The report of the court of inquiry that was ordered by the Indian Air Force (IAF) into the mishap which led to the British Hawk AJT, valued around Rs 85 crore, being completely destroyed, is expected to come out with its report shortly.
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Post by shiv »

yet another cross post
Kakkaji wrote:

From the above link:
Also, according to some reports, BAE Systems has been mounting a highly unsavoury unofficial campaign by painting the IAF as a bunch of incompetent chaps who don't know how to handle new aircraft, or how frequently to use them.
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^^^ Hmmm that would be real stupid thing to do by BAE. By branding IAF as incompetent, they are not really doing any good to their MRCA bid!.

Wasn't there a report saying a British pilot was also involved in the accident?
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Post by vivek_ahuja »

Either that or BAE has judged that the Indian market is probably not worth ruining their reputation in the global market for by saying they supplied faulty parts or that there was some other defect that was traced back to them.

As regards the smear campaign: that was the expected strategy all along, wasn't it?
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sunilUpa wrote:^^^ Hmmm that would be real stupid thing to do by BAE. By branding IAF as incompetent, they are not really doing any good to their MRCA bid!.

Wasn't there a report saying a British pilot was also involved in the accident?

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 64#p487164
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Re: Hawk crashes

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Posting this here as this deals with a hawk crash - but in UK on 20th August

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 572833.stm

Airmen injured in RAF jet crash
"The aircraft itself came to a standstill in the car park, adjacent to air traffic control.

"There's some damage to the aircraft and there was also some damage to three vehicles that were in the car park.
"some damage"

some? Did they say some?

doesnt look like some to me :shock:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l261/ ... hForum.jpg

more pics here

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/inde ... t&p=223342
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Re: Hawk crashes

Post by shiv »

This therad was started specifically for the discussion about a crashed IAF Hawk.
IOW IB4TL :P
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