Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby member_23370 » 12 Mar 2013 01:28

The mockup was shown on L7T site at AI 2010. Saya from defenceforum india had taken the pics.

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/stra ... post694552

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby Indranil » 12 Mar 2013 02:34

I think this is the older TEL. I think TATA reported at DefExpo'12, that Nirbhay will be based on the indigenous TATA 12X12. I remember Dr. Saraswat citing this change as the reason for the delay (though he did not say TATA, he said indigenous).

Tata Motors’ Defence Vehicles

Tata 12x12 Prahaar Missile System:
Tata Motors Ltd has developed an indigenous high mobility, all-terrain and all-wheel drive, Tata LPTA 5252-12 X12 vehicle, specifically for missile launcher cum carrier applications like integration of Prahar, BrahMos and Nirbhay Missiles, in close coordination with R&DE – DRDO.

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby Varoon Shekhar » 12 Mar 2013 03:38

geeth wrote:I have always wondered why the DRDO guys kept on flight testing Lakshya for decades. With limited funds, may be they could do only that. But, if what is claimed is TRUE, Hats off to their ingenuity and concealment.


Interestingly, Frontline magazine had an article as far back as Dec 1996-Jan 1997, which referred to Lakshya as a possible cruise missile. Around the same time, the "Economist" magazine hinted that it could be one.

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby fanne » 12 Mar 2013 03:46

It is like 2 meter long and 1 meter wide Trishul flights (which was Anti Missile system testes)

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby Victor » 12 Mar 2013 06:05

Only possibility is a small diameter tail mounted contra rotating prop fan but that is an odd choice that goes against everything done so far in the field. The stuff about being reusable and releasing bombs sounds too starship enterprisey and impractical. Hope we just have a usable, medium range cruise missile that will become operational in 2-4 years max and not another 20 yr black hole project. Fingers crossed and good luck to DRDO.

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby pentaiah » 12 Mar 2013 06:34

V1 on steroids?

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby Singha » 12 Mar 2013 07:33

I wonder what those 3 huge "rooms" on the nirbhay TEL are for. seems like quite a lot for a GLCM launcher.
the missile themselves look of huge size and length and likely sized for naval VL tubes ... could be 25" diameter and not 21" and be more than 18feet in length.

the middle one seems like a proper room with the launching controls and seen in brahmos TEL as well which has two "rooms" not three.

here is the old tomahawk launcher - very similar to our layout
http://www.atomicexpress.net/wp-content ... glcm_5.jpg

cheen long sword appears to be a more compact system with just 8 wheels and no semi-trailer ... the two front axles are likely steerable
http://www.chinamilitary.net/wp-content ... -sword.jpg

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby arun » 12 Mar 2013 08:30

Singha wrote:... could be 25" diameter and not 21" and be more than 18feet in length.


The dimensions of the Nirbhay are available on the previous page in a post by Indranil Roy which contains a line drawing of the Nirbhay (Clicky). The diameter is not 25 inches and the length is greater than 18 feet.

As that line drawing of the Nirbhay has been extracted from a DRDO tender it also has the ring of authenticity.

As an aside, no propfan in evidence.

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby Shrinivasan » 12 Mar 2013 10:23

Flash news from Taramak... Nirbhay countdown begins
http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/03/breaking-on-tarmak007-nirbhay-countdown.html
Missile launch @ 11:30 AM IST... all the best DRDO...

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby member_20296 » 12 Mar 2013 10:37

:) Just compared physical parameters of Tomahawk and Nirbhay which are on very similar lines, so simple logic says Nirbhay on a mission 1000 KM away will do the job and will be able to return home even if it used its loitering feature. Sounds good isn't it...

Experts easily look beyond the punch lines, they must be knowing it can do missions 2000 to 2500 KM away if it need not come back home.

Waiting for the sweet news of success with fingers crossed.

Question though :D

If they are using Nirbhay for full range of 1000 KM (and as a fact its just a test) they must not be wasting its body they will be calling it back home, Gurus please shed some light.......

If answer is affirmative then the whole test should last for not less than 3 hrs, it will be a good test of all guidance systems, communication links and various other subsystems.

Eagerly waiting to hear news of "Success"

Jai Hind

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby krishnan » 12 Mar 2013 10:42

its Hind....

less than 5 mins

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby Singha » 12 Mar 2013 11:50

launch was at 11:55am...it is on the way finally ..hope all goes well.

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby ravi_shankar » 12 Mar 2013 12:01

news flash confirming nirbhay was launched successfully..awaiting further details..

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby krishnan » 12 Mar 2013 12:03

so 12:55 expected hit time

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby suryag » 12 Mar 2013 12:05

wow the excruciating wait begins .... nirbhay is like a passenger mail it is slowly on its way to the destination, brahmos is like rajdhani

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby pralay » 12 Mar 2013 12:08

so it shall hit target by 1:15 ?

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby member_19648 » 12 Mar 2013 12:10

Someone should upload the launch pics, that would be soothing...

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby krishnan » 12 Mar 2013 12:11

sameer_shelavale wrote:so it shall hit target by 1:15 ?


12:55 , if its 1 hr flight time

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby kvraghavaiah » 12 Mar 2013 12:13

I am waiting for fish fry from the sea(made by nirbhay) for lunch.

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby kvraghavaiah » 12 Mar 2013 12:15

krishnan wrote:
sameer_shelavale wrote:so it shall hit target by 1:15 ?


12:55 , if its 1 hr flight time


The flight time is a bit more than 1 hour. Hit time will be about 1:10 if tested for 1000km.

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby member_23844 » 12 Mar 2013 12:20

Hope we get the launch pis soon..........................

http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/03/br ... nched.html

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby Nikhil T » 12 Mar 2013 12:26

IBN already called it successful. Not sure if its accurate.

LINK

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby Nitesh » 12 Mar 2013 12:31

DDM strikes, "successful launch" gets replaced with "successful test fired" :twisted:

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby kvraghavaiah » 12 Mar 2013 12:37

Just race for first time reported on ... channel.
These channels change the word in a matter of minutes.
Anyway ..they might have gone by conviction like ourselves..that the test is a full success.

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby dinesha » 12 Mar 2013 12:48

Breaking on Tarmak007! Nirbhay launched at 11:55 am
Breaking Now!

Nirbhay missile launched from Integrated Test Range (ITR) off the Odisha coast at about 11.55 am.

(Source: My Express colleague Hemant Kumar Rawat from Orissa)


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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby mody » 12 Mar 2013 12:55

Tarmak is reporting a failure. The flight of the missile was terminated after 20 minutes. :((

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby kvraghavaiah » 12 Mar 2013 12:59

mody wrote:Tarmak is reporting a failure. The flight of the missile was terminated after 20 minutes. :((

oops.. :oops: :((

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby krishnan » 12 Mar 2013 13:00

Doesnt say failure...says it was terminated, wonder why when everything was working fine

"All systems onboard the missiles performed perfectly for the first 20 minutes. The radars tracking reported good health till then. But after 20 minutes, the missile drifted away from the path.
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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby juvva » 12 Mar 2013 13:06

krishnan wrote:Doesnt say failure...says it was terminated, wonder why when everything was working fine

All systems onboard the missiles performed perfectly for the first 20 minutes. The radars tracking reported good health.


Apparently because it drifted ofcourse...

http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/03/br ... n.html?m=1

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby suryag » 12 Mar 2013 13:10

livefist reports it started veering after 17 mins and was aborted

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby Reddy » 12 Mar 2013 13:10

juvva wrote:Apparently because it drifted ofcourse...

http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/03/br ... n.html?m=1


Did someone switched off GPS signal again?

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby kvraghavaiah » 12 Mar 2013 13:21

So all this means .. partial success and a way to never failing weapon from next time.

Come back DRDO, like you did with Agni-3.

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby Vishnu » 12 Mar 2013 13:23

DRDO Press Release

Launch complex, Chandipur, Odisha

Long range cruise missile Nirbhay launched


Long range cruise missile Nirbhay was successfully launched today at 1150 hrs from launch complex, Chandipur, Odisha, meeting the basic mission objectives successfully. After travelling approximately mid-way, deviations were observed from its intended course. Further, flight was terminated to ensure coastal safety.


Ravi Kumar Gupta
Scientist G & Director
Directorate of Public Interface,
DRDO Hqrs, Room 117, DRDO Bhawan

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby juvva » 12 Mar 2013 13:29

Reddy wrote:
juvva wrote:Apparently because it drifted ofcourse...

http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/03/br ... n.html?m=1


Did someone switched off GPS signal again?


Unlikely, I think...more likely failure in mechanicals/hydraulics/control surfaces.....Would be interesting to know
If it was flying level and straight at that time or executing some manouevere.

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby member_22539 » 12 Mar 2013 13:36

I hope the whiners don't have a whining orgy this time around. Failure is just a stepping stone to success. All the same, because of the constantly whining and traitorous glee of the DDM in our failures, sometimes I wish that they just launch a finished product at a media event like they did with Sagarika.

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Postby mody » 12 Mar 2013 13:41

Any pictures of the missile? The picture would give clue to the exact nature of the missile.

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

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