Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017

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srai wrote:
Karan M wrote:...
We have time because Akash is (sensibly) replacing the SA-6 holdings right now & if the IA does have some Spyders on order, there is a quick boost to immediate holdings (not all SA-6s will be retired either).
Wondering how long missiles could be kept serviceable. The SA-6s were bought around 1977. That's some 40-years ago. Shukla had an article a long while ago regarding IAF's SA-3 where it was mentioned 15-years (or so) was max that OEM did but DRDO extended it to 21-years. So the question is how many of these very old SA-6s still viable (not just as counts on paper)?
I am guessing another decade. They will be trickle replaced and no longer upgraded.

The replacement will be QRSAM.

So total of some six regiments initial has been claimed in DDM, If true. Those will be 2 Akash, 2 Akash or Akash Mk1S and then 2 QRSAM. Rest will come in to provide coverage to IBGs and what not.
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With recent orders of Akash, SRSAM (import) out of equation now ? and All future SRSAM requirements will be met by Akash(family)?
http://www.janes.com/article/71116/indi ... -for-akash


The Indian Army's Air Defence SAM inventory recapitalization is spread across five major programs, viz Akash, MRSAM, SRSAM, QRSAM, VSHORADS.

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Short Range SAM refers to missile systems which will replace likes of SA-8 Gecko and SA-13 Gopher/Strela missile system.

These SAM systems, along with ZSU-23-4 and Tungushka move with armored brigades and provide the point-defense to these formations.

IA wanted a mobile AD system and that is why QR-SAM was borne. Initially, Akash was expected to have this capability. That is why it will see a relatively limited induction and bulk will consist of QR-SAM. Akash/Akash-1S/Akash-NG will see induction for AD coverage of static targets, as has already happened.

IA had limited missile AD capability in Akash/QR_SAM segment; whatever induction you'll see will be adding additional capability. Expect L-70 Regiments to be converted to missile based AD regiments.

IAF's SA-3 Missile squadrons will see replacement by Akash family.
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rohitvats wrote: Expect L-70 Regiments to be converted to missile based AD regiments.
OT, but the decommissioned L-70 guns can be sent straight to the LOC for heavy fire support. Will be far more effective there than even in the AD role I reckon.
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I hope some of the L-70's are kept, its like when missiles first came in Aircraft that guns were obsolete. I have smaller number of guns should be kept as a last response in war time, excess l-70 along with Ammo can be sent to LOC.
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The country’s long-range missile test facility at South Andamans’ Rutland Island has finally secured the clearance of the National Board of Wildlife, which has been held up since 2012. The Standing Committee of the National Board of Wildlife in a meeting held on May 15 approved the project, “considering the strategic importance of the project for country’s defence”.
However, it has been consistently stalled due to objections by the environment ministry. The Proposal for Wildlife clearance for creation of Infrastructure Facilities for Strategic Surveillance System at Rutland Island had been moved by DRDO. Rutland Island is vital to DRDO’s long-term plans to have a comprehensive testing facility to identify and track long-range missile tests.

The island is located at an ideal distance from the mainland where tests are typically launched from.
So finally we are free from Jayanti Natrajan era & her Italian masters :D :)

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If QR-SAM is a Astra derivative, then which one would BRFites like first and in numbers - Astra or QR-SAM? Personally, I'd like Astra in 1000s and don't want QR-SAM to be a distraction.
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^^Both are equally important
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JTull wrote:If QR-SAM is a Astra derivative, then which one would BRFites like first and in numbers - Astra or QR-SAM? Personally, I'd like Astra in 1000s and don't want QR-SAM to be a distraction.
If the orders are large enough then 2 lines can be created to meet them. So no reason to assume the one will be a distraction over the other.
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Many different SAM procurements are in the pipeline for all three services, so QR-SAM is important but not critical. Given the servicability problems with our large stock Russian origin AAMs, Astra is clearly a priority in my eyes. The development team should focus on that. My fear is that one who shouts loudest gets the most attention. In this example, keeping mum about the problems with AAMs for obvious reasons, may mean QR-SAM gets prioritised. We'll end up importing tons of Israeli/French AAMs instead.
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Guru log
Does QR-SAM uses same seeker as Astra (Agat one)?
Is the target detection algorithm will be same as Astra?
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Why cant they put the L70s on a mini tracked platform and make it a remotely controlled land based of version CIWs? Give it to the BSF and let it patrol the border.

These are lethal guns and can be repurposed.
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Wildlife Board okays Andamans’ Rutland Island for DRDO’s missile testing project - Economic Times
The country’s long-range missile test facility at South Andamans’ Rutland Island has finally secured the clearance of the National Board of Wildlife, which has been held up since 2012. The Standing Committee of the National Board of Wildlife in a meeting held on May 15 approved the project, “considering the strategic importance of the project for country’s defence”.

The proposal involves diversion of 49.978 acres forest of which 0.84 ha falls in the Mahatma Gandhi Marine National Park and 49.138 ha reserve forest within 10km of the Eco Sensitive Zone. The island is very rich in marine life and was once home to the indigenous Andamanese group ‘Jangil’ or Rutland Jarawa. DRDO has been struggling to get its long range missile test facility since 2012 when the proposal was moved across the government.

However, it has been consistently stalled due to objections by the environment ministry. The Proposal for Wildlife clearance for creation of Infrastructure Facilities for Strategic Surveillance System at Rutland Island had been moved by DRDO. Rutland Island is vital to DRDO’s long-term plans to have a comprehensive testing facility to identify and track long-range missile tests.

The island is located at an ideal distance from the mainland where tests are typically launched from. As of now, long-range missile tests are being carried out from the Odisha coast and are tracked by naval vessels on a trajectory into the Bay of Bengal. Most of the long-range tests for missiles like Agni IV and V have to be tracked over sea, with specialised vessels noting the ‘hit zone’ into the water.

DRDO requires a land-based test area as well to accurately track its longrange missiles, with the island in the Andamans being ideally located due to its distance from mainland. DRDO is also looking at setting up tracking stations along the Andaman Islands to track incoming test missiles. Besides, a special purpose vessel for tracking missile launches is currently under construction at the Vizag based Hindustan Shipyard Limited.

The state Chief Wildlife Warden has recommended the project with conditions such as preparation of a specific marine and terrestrial wildlife conservation plan and installation of essential deflectors and anti-radiation screens around satellite antennas to reduce the impact of radiation on biodiversity in the proposed area. It has also been specified that minimum number of vehicles should be used inside Rutland Island during constructional and operational phase of the project.

Vessels/boats used for construction should use the approved route for navigation with larger vessels to enter into the National Park only during high tide. The project authority has also been asked to take necessary permission from the Chief Wild Life Warden while entering into waters of Marine National Park while approaching Rutland Island.

No forest material of fire wood is to be collected from forest area and no effluent or domestic sewage (liquid or solid waste) shall be disposed into the sea or nearby forest area.
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Nitesh wrote:Guru log
Does QR-SAM uses same seeker as Astra (Agat one)?
Is the target detection algorithm will be same as Astra?
Had the same question, maybe QRSAM seeker is the same as Akash1S version...
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Karan,

A write up differentiating all the programs(QR/MR/LR/SR-SAM,AKASH-1S/NG) for BR is in order. Its become too complex even for Abduls here to keep track of.
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Cy, yes, once i get some thoughts together

Re: QRSAM seeker, IMHO its the same as Astra's indigenized unit.

JT, you raise a valid point. However, at this point, I would just be happy if either - QRSAM or Astra goes into volume production. At least one, because it will safeguard both Astra tech and build upon Akash.

QRSAM pros are radar also advances, with X-band and C- band modules progressing. X Band modules in QRSAM ---> AESA fighter radar.

IAF has fancy Derby variants to entice its interest, so fingers crossed for Astra Mk1. On plus side, Astra has been through extensive validation with Bars radar. So IAF should logically order more of it.
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JTull wrote:If QR-SAM is a Astra derivative, then which one would BRFites like first and in numbers - Astra or QR-SAM? Personally, I'd like Astra in 1000s and don't want QR-SAM to be a distraction.

I would prioritize Astra over QR-SAM in the ratio 75:25 till enough stocks are built up, as Astra allows you to shoot the enemy aircraft before the need for QR-SAM.
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From ARDE directors bio

Notable Contributions: A milestone contribution has been the Productionization and ToT of PINAKA, the world class MBRS designed and developed by ARDE, which is the Army's frontline weapon system. More than 6000 PINAKA Rockets have been supplied to the Army. Users have projected the requirement for 1.9 lakh Rockets and 22 MBRS regiments. Dr. Rajan is the principal designer of the PINAKA Rockets. He has also spearheaded the development of Pinaka Mk-II with an enhanced range of 60 km and having remarkable accuracy and consistency. Enabling technologies such as indigenous Turbo generator based ET Fuze, flow forming of rocket motors, nozzle based ignition and case bonded motors, wrap around fin stabilization for rockets, high L/D low calibre composite propellant grain of finocyl design methodology, etc. were established. The firepower of Pinaka has received a major boost due to the successful performance of the Area Denial Munition Warhead capable of neutralizing an area of more than 12,000 m2 with devastating effects during the User trial conducted in Sep 2016 at Pokhran, and with the User recommendation for its induction. ATM and STM warheads are getting ready for User trials.

Dr. Rajan has put to use his vast experience in Rocket technologies to guide the range enhancement of GRAD 122 mm Rocket available with the Army from 20 km to nearly 40 km achieved during flight trials during technology development project. He has facilitated ToT of ARDE products and has helped establish several work centres across the country for vital technologies such as flow forming, filament winding, TPS for rocket motor, propellant processing, etc.

Under Dr. Rajan's command, DRDO's blue chip project for development of Advanced Towed Artillery Gun System (ATAGS) is going full steam, encouraged by the successful dynamic Proof trials using ARDE developed Fixed Firing Stand, ANGAD. Through his negotiation skills, meticulous supervision and timely action he has built up a good rapport with the numerous players involved in this vital programme, thus paving the way for realization of the first ever 155mm/52 calibre Artillery Gun for the Nation.

With the upgradation of Hypervelocity tunnel facility, ARDE's ambitious Electro Magnetic Gun project is on a fast track. Assembly of two Railguns of 12 mm and 30 mm Square Bore, test firing of 12 mm Railgun and layout for 1.6 MJ Capacitor bank has been completed, and the target is to fire a 1 kg projectile with a velocity of more than 2000 m/s with a capacitor bank of 10 MJ.

Dr. Rajan is ably steering ARDE in the field of Precision Guided Munitions. Mid-course guidance has been established for the Laser homing Cannon Launched Guided Missile. 120 mm Laser guided ATGM for empowering MBT Arjun MK-II is being developed. Development of Guided Pinaka having INS+GPS guidance with canard control, Accuracy of 60 – 80 m and Range enhancement up to 80 km is aimed at. Dynamic trials are planned during Dec 2016. Preliminary Adaptation of 450 kg HSLD Bomb with Griffin LG Kit & Dual Fuze on Jaguar and Su-30 has been completed. As a result of Dr. Rajan's persistent follow-up, Su-30 aircraft has been approved by Air Force as the platform for HSLD Bomb with Precision Guidance Kit , thus removing the hurdle for final implementation. Design & development of a variety of warheads for tactical missiles are also being progressed at ARDE.

The New Family of Munitions (NFM) programme, comprising six types of mines with sophisticated RF communication features, is progressing well. NIPUN has successfully completed User trials, VIBHAV & VISHAL are presently undergoing User trials, while remaining are fast approaching User trials. Several of the infantry projects are coming to fruition, namely, 40 mm Air Bursting Grenade, Joint Venture Protective Carbine, Multi Calibre Individual Weapon System and Corner Shot Weapon.

On the Naval front, Range extension of existing Anti-Submarine Rocket for RBU 6000 Launcher up to 8.5+ km has been successfully demonstrated.
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Not all L-70 will be phased out. Gun based AD Regiments will be most probably be the largest component of AD Regiment in India.
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KaranM, Very good update and status report.

Infrastructure development: Dr. Rajan has made immense contributions to Infrastructure development. Fully equipped Rocket Technology Centre, Hypervelocity Centre, Gun Integration Facility for ATAGS, state-of-the-Art Fuze simulation facility, fully automatic Anechoic Chamber, Structural Load Test facility for Aircraft bombs, Rapid Prototyping Machine, Cold Isostatic Press, Special Project Facility, renovated Technical Management division, Security Complex with Access Control System, well developed Range Complex, ultra modern Information Centre for Armament Technology are some major contributions. Dr. Rajan has taken keen interest in modernizing the Computing & Networking Solutions facility. An upgraded 2-roller flow forming machine centre has been established at the Prototype Manufacturing Unit for manufacture of a variety of Shaped charges for various Warheads. A Virtual Reality Centre and a complete overhaul of the Prototype Manufacturing Unit are in the pipeline.
We can expect a lot of good work from ARDE.
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Rohitvats we always used to try to find this info!!!!

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Achievements


PROTOTYPE MANUFACTURING UNIT

7.62 mm SLR

One of the earlier successful venture was the 7.62 mm Ishapore Self-Loading Rifle (SLR) and its ammunition which replaced the venerable 0.303 in. Lee Enfield bolt action Rifle. So far, more than one million rifles have been produced by our Ordnance Factories. This rugged and reliable weapon gave excellent account of itself in the hands of our Jawans in both the 1965 and 1971 wars.
In the wake of the 1962 Chinese aggression, for our hard pressed gunners defending our mountain borders, ARDE, jointly with the Ordnance Factories developed and produced 75/24 Pack Howitzer and a whole family of ammunition viz., HE, Smoke and Illuminating. This light weight howitzer could be broken down into smaller units for mule transportation in the mountains or could be carried underslung by helicopter. The weapon system saw action in the 1971 operations. This was the first artillery gun system developed indigenously.

105 mm Indian Field Gun (IFG) which replaced the legendary 25 Pounder of World War-II vintage in our Field Artillery Regiments, was originally developed at ARDE before being handed over to the Gun Development Team at Jabalpur- joint task force with experts drawn from ARDE, Ordnance Factory Board, Directorate General of Quality Assurance and the Users - the Regiment of Artillery. The IFG has been productionised in the Ordnance Factories.


122 mm ROCKET



The awesome fire power of the artillery rocket barrage was demonstrated and exploited to the full by the Soviet Army with its famous `Katyusha" rockets during the World War II. The post war era has brought about further refinements and the free-flight artillery rockets and multi-barrel launcher systems form a powerful adjunct to the field artillery and medium artillery guns. In keeping with this trend Indian Army, too, has inducted Multi Barrel Rocket Launcher Systems in its service. ARDE has successfully developed its SS-20 122mm rocket with HE fragmentation warhead. A battery of six launchers can deliver a salvo of 240 rockets in 20 seconds to a maximum range of 20 km and saturate a target area of the size of a football field with more than four tonnes of steel fragments and high explosives.

Even after the advent of the highly sophisticated anti-tank guided missiles that can defeat main battle tanks (MBTs), it is now generally accepted that the most cost effective weapon to fight and defeat heavily armoured MBTs is the high-velocity K.E. Ammunition fired from gun mounted on tanks. This is accomplished in the current generation tank guns by firing Fin Stabilized Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot (FSAPDS) ammunition. In principle, it depends upon the high kinetic energy, super-dense, arrow-shaped, penetrator launched at hypersonic velocities to defeat the multilayer armour with which the modern MBTs are protected. The deceptively simple looking design, however involves some of the most demanding design and production technologies. ARDE has successfully developed the 105 mm Fin Stabilised Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot (FSAPDS) ammunition for the Vijayanta and Up-Gunned T-55 MBTs. ARDE can justifiably feel proud that with successful productionisation of this advanced ammunition, India has joined the ranks of a few select nations who have the capability of the design, development and production of FSAPDS ammunition and has effected a major saving in the foreign exchange by eliminating the import of technology.

Infantry Platoon Mortars are simple, smooth bore, muzzle loaded weapons that provide the platoon with its own mini-artillery cover by providing effective indirect fire for area effect. Till recently, our infantry was equipped with the World War - II vintage 2 inch mortar. To replace this ARDE has developed 51 mm Light Weight Infantry Platoon Mortar. This is man portable weapon capable of achieving double the range of 2 inch mortar without any increase in weight. Its new HE bomb uses pre-fragmentation technology to achieve vastly improved lethality in comparison with the conventional bomb. Besides, HE, the family of ammunition comprising smoke, illuminating and practice bombs have also been developed. The weapon system is under production at Ordnance Factories.

Modern military operations are also conducted during the night and under adverse conditions. Despite the availability of Night Vision devices illuminating ammunition is still required for night warfare, for illuminating the ground both for offensive and defensive actions, for identification and aimed fire. Over the years variety of illuminating ammunition have been developed for the infantry and light artillery. These are in regular production. ARDE has developed 81 mm, 120 mm illuminating bombs and 105 mm illuminating shell for infantry and Artillery. The performance of these bombs is comparable with the best in the world.

For the Armoured Corps, we made a significant contribution by the successful development of Up-Gunning kit for the T-55 MBT. The original 100 mm gun of this tank was retrofitted with 105 mm of the Vijayanta which greatly enhanced the fire power of the tank. Standardization of the gun and ammunition for both the tanks has brought about a major reduction in the logistic burden. With the combination of a rugged chassis and turret with a high performance gun and ammunition system, the upgunned T-55 compared well with the T-72s and Vijayantas.

Adrushy - The intellligent A/T Mine is our answer to the increasing threat caused by the MBTs of the nineties. With the introduction of this mine with shaped charge and magnetic or seismic cum magnetic influence fuze a new dimension has been given to the mine warfare. Sophistication, simplicity in handling and indomitable kill capacity makes the mine invisible and user friendly. This is under production at OFs since 1997.

Proximity fuzes are used with artillery projectiles to obtain air burst at an optimum height for maximum effectiveness particularly against troops in trenches. These are also used in anti-aircraft and anti-missile roles in which "near-misses" are converted into "kills" resulting in enhanced overall performance of the weapon system. ARDE in association with other sister Labs has developed a family of proximity fuzes which are under production in Public Sector Undertakings and Ordnance Factories . The fuzes contain sophisticated electronic devices and circuits which must withstand several thousands of `G" force during launch of the projectile.

Training of our troops in peace ensures the effectiveness of the "man-machine" system in war. Keeping this in view ARDE has developed several training devices for the Army:
•Mortar training device for 81 mm Mortar for the Infantry
•Mortar training device for 120 mm Mortar for the Artillery.
•0.50 inch Subcalibre training device for 105 mm Vijayanta tank gun.

These devices impart realistic operational training to the crew at a fraction of the cost of the parent-weapon ammunition. This also eliminated the need for full scale firing ranges. These training systems provide intensive and cost-effective training to the troops.


One of the most prestigious and ambitious weapon system project undertaken at ARDE is the 120mm Main Armament and Ammunition system for the ARJUN MBT. This is a high-technology program involving a number of disciplines. ARDE has developed a super velocity gun and a family of ammunition with FSAPDS as the primary kinetic energy kill mechanism. It can be confidently stated that the fire power of ARJUN would be comparable with the contemporary MBTs available in the world. It may be noted that only four gun systems in this performance class have been developed abroad namely in UK, Federal Republic of Germany, France and Russia. Even the US and Japan have opted to adopt and licence produce the German 120mm Rheinmetall gun. Our Scientists and engineers, therefore, are justifiably proud to have joined this exclusive `club" with totally indigenous technology. The armament and ammunition system are under current production at OFB.

In the modern war, the stress on the Infantry soldier is enormous. Consequently, there is a constant and urgent need to optimize the designs of the infantry weapons by reducing their weight and size especially in the case of small arms. The 7.62 mm Rifle and Light Machine Gun (LMG) have been largely replaced by smaller, lighter and optimally more effective 5.56 mm and 5.45 mm weapons throughout the NATO and East European countries. The reduction of calibre may seem paradoxical to the lay person, but from external and wound ballistics, weapon design and tactical considerations, the 5.56 mm calibre has been conclusively proved to be the optimum solution. Besides reducing the fatigue with the lighter weapon load, the small 5.56 mm ammunition enables the soldier to carry more ammunition; due to low recoil, the stress on the soldier is also less during firing, thus improving accuracy.

In keeping with this trend ARDE had undertaken one of the most important programs in its history, drawing heavily on its past experience with 7.62mm SLR, namely the 5.56 mm Indian Small Arms System (INSAS). The infantry was earlier equipped with three types of small arms firing two types of ammunition, viz. 7.62 mm Ishapore SLR, LMG and 9 mm carbine. The INSAS family which is replacing all the three weapons consists of Assault Rifle : fixed & foldable butt version, LMG : fixed & foldable butt version having 70% commonality of parts and all firing the same ammunition. By 1999, both rifles & LMG have been introduced into service and weapons are in the hands of soldiers. RFI and SAF of OFB are the production agencies with AFK for Ammunition.

Over the years the Army has felt the need for a weapon system, which could neutralize targets at ranges exceeding 30 km. To meet this demand, development of the surface-to-surface Pinaka MBRLS has been undertaken. The system will comprise a free-flight artillery rocket with different types of warhead & fuzes, a multi-tube launcher vehicle, a replenishment-cum-loader vehicle, a replenishment vehicle and a command post vehicle. There are two pods containing 6 rockets each, capable of firing in salvo mode within 48 sec neutralizing an area of 700 x 500 m. The MBRS will be effective for the destruction of troops in the open, "B" vehicles, softening of enemy objective, engagement of enemy formation HQs etc. This is a major multi-discipline program involving several DRDO Labs, Public and Private Sector Firms. ARDE is the system integrator and is also responsible for the flight vehicle, warheads, fuzes and launcher systems. The system has undergone pre-induction trials successfully and the Army is expected to place production orders shortly.

ARMS AND AMUNITIONS FOR NAVY

In the past because of their specialized design and very limited requirements generated by a relatively small fleet of combat ships and vessels, most of Indian Navy"s requirements of Naval Armament stores were met by import. This picture is now changing: the country is emerging as a major maritime power with a "blue water" Navy capable of power projection much beyond its immeDIATe shores. ARDE, in a modest way, is expanding its activity in this sophisticated and demanding area dominated by a handful of nations with long Naval traditions.


SSE CARTRIDGES

Submerged Signal Ejector Cartridges (SSE) are fired from submarines for signalling to ships and aircraft/helicopters during Naval exercises and in times of distress. ARDE has developed this important store for the Navy.
LIMPET MINE

ARDE has developed a Limpet Mine for the Indian Navy. These Mines are attached to the hull of the target vessels by the naval divers for underwater sabotage of the naval or merchant vessels in enemy waters. Initial operational requirement was met by ARDE and now it is in series production at OFs.

SHORT RANGE A/S ROCKET

In the field of anti-submarine warfare, a short range anti-submarine rocket with HE and practice warheads - has been developed and productionized. These rockets can be launched singly or in salvo from multi-barrel rocket launchers on-board ships.

Sea Mines


The Iran-Iraq Gulf conflict clearly demonstrated the strategic importance of sea mines in Naval Warfare and control of coastal and international water-ways which can have a dramatic influence on the outcome of any modern war. Sea mines are essentially weapons of stealth. Moored or laid on the sea-bed, these mines lie passively waiting for the unwary enemy ship to come within their zone of action and then explode to cause crippling damage or even sink the ship. ARDE has embarked on the development of the Indian Sea Mine which is capable of being deployed against submarines as well as surface vessels, combining the state-of-the-art technologies in sensors and electronic signal processing for target identification and initiation. The item has been developed.

MRECM AND 76.2 mm PF SHELL

The Falklands war as well as the Iran-Iraq Gulf War conclusively demonstrated the effectiveness of surface skimming long - range anti-ship missiles (ASMs) against surface vessels and now have emerged as the most serious threat. To counter this threat ARDE has developed Short and Medium Range ECM rockets which are fired in the direction of the incoming missile. The chaff cloud of aluminium foil generated by these rockets decoy the homing missile away from the target ship by producing a false radar echo. In addition, ARDE has also evolved 76.2 mm PFHE shell for the Navy as an active counter measure against the anti-ship missiles. This shell is prefragmented and is provided with a proximity fuze. Thus the large number of high energy fragments are delivered in the vicinity of the target and destruction of target is ensured. Howsoever sophisticated a modern combat aircraft as a weapon delivery platform may be with advanced propulsion, aerodynamics, avionics etc. its mission effectiveness will ultimately depend on the armament payload viz., bombs, rockets, missiles or guns which it carries.

Design and development of airborne armament stores for combat aircraft is a demanding and painstaking area of ARDE"s activities. Before any airborne equipment is awarded operational airworthiness for type-approval, it is subjected to extremely rigorous tests and flight trials. The enormous cost of modern combat aircraft and the value of the life of a trained combat pilot impose these rigorous requirements on the designer.


Retarder Tail Unit

Low-level bombing attack has become inescapable in order to evade detection by the enemy radar and consequent missile and AD gun fire. With conventional free-fall gravity bombs, however, the mother aircraft is still in the danger zone when the bomb impacts. Retarder Tail Unit (RTU) and fuze system developed by ARDE for the 450 kg (1000 lb) bomb enables high-speed low-level release of this bomb by our strike aircrafts. The fall-velocity of the bomb is retardedd by a drogue parachute and the aircraft flies ahead of the danger zone before the bomb impacts. A sophisticated fuze provides the necessary safeties. Our front-line strike aircraft are now equipped with RTU fitted with 450 kg bomb

68 mm Rockets

One of the early air armament projects successfully carried out by us was the 68 mm "Arrow" Rocket. These low calibre rockets are launched from a multi-tube rocket pod carried on underwing hard-points of strike/fighter ground-attack aircraft, and capable of performing in the dual air-to-surface and air-to-air roles. Three versions of the rocket- HE, Practice and HEAT are being produced in large numbers at OFs for the Airforce and Navy.


450 kg High Speed Low Drag (HSLD) Bomb

The existing 1000 lb (450 kg) bomb in IAF service is based on the design evolved during World War II and therefore, not optimized for use with the current generation of high speed combat aircraft. This bomb imposes excessive drag penalty in the high speed laydown mode, adversely affecting aircraft performance in general and radius of action in particular. A 450 kg high speed low drag (HSLD) bomb was developed by ARDE. The bomb is now under regular production

PRACTICE BOMBS

Training of combat pilots in bombing missions with full-scale live bombs is both prohibitively expensive and also constrained from range safety considerations. In order to overcome these problems, ARDE has developed a low weight retarder practice bomb for use on all types of fighter, strike and trainer aircraft in the IAF and Indian Naval Service. The bomb can simulate the trajectories of different types of bombs by substitution of different drag plates. The bomb has a fibre reinforced plastic body and is now under regular production.

ESCAPE-AID CARTRIDGE

The most important asset in the inventory of any modern air force is its combat pilots. It takes enormous amount of time, efforts and money to groom a pilot to the required level of proficiency. Their lives are extremely precious and require to be protected under all adverse circumstances. All combat aircrafts are, therefore, provided with crew escape aid systems which demand the highest degree of operational reliability.

Escape Aid Cartridges are fitted in the ejection seat system of the aircraft and enable the pilot to eject safely in emergency. Similarly, power cartridges are used to operate a number of other functions like fire extinguisher, canopy ejection, weapon ejection, stores release system etc. So far 52 types of escape aid and power cartridges have been developed for a variety of aircraft used by the IAF, Navy. In view of the extremely high degree reliability, their low installed life and small quantity requirements at a time, the Users insist on their production and supply by ARDE itself. Hence a pilot plant has been established for this purpose. Lives of a number of pilots have been saved by the use of ARDE produced power cartridges. The strategic importance of these could therefore be appreciated in view of the fact that combat aircraft, singly or in squadrons, could get grounded for want of these critical cartridges and thus affect their operational readiness. We have thus not only eliminated our dependence on foreign supply but have also saved considerable amount of foreign exchange.

PIEZO ELECTRIC CRYSTALS

Development of sophisticated technology for Lead Zirconate Titanate piezo-electric material, commonly known as PZT, has been a major break through at ARDE. This material finds extensive application in the armament fuzing of several HEAT ammunition. Due to the impact momentum of the shell against the hard target, PZT crystals produce a high voltage pulse to initiate the hollow charge warhead. In order to meet the production needs of various armament projects, PZT is produced in the Pilot Plant at ARDE.

The production technology has also been transferred to CEL, Sahidabad to cater for the bulk needs of the OFs. Now our PZT crystals are in demand not only to meet the critical sonar systems in sophisticated ASW applications but also some special applications by BARC, ISRO and other agencies. With the indigenisation of this strategic material substantial FE has been saved and dependence on foreign sources has altogether been eliminated. Considering growth potential of the piezo ceramic technology and existing facilities and expertise available at ARDE, R&D HQrs has sanctioned DRDO Centre for Piezoceramics and Devices under the management of ARDE. With this it will be possible to achieve self sufficiency in this highly potential and strategic field of smart and very smart sensor materials, actuators and transducers, also demonstrate the technology at pre-commercial level, undertake limited production and establish product applications.
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The QR-SAM reminds me somewhat of the NASAMS 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASAMS_2
A complete NASAMS 2 battery consists of 12 missile launchers (LCHR) (each one carrying six AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles), eight radars (AN/MPQ-64 F1 Improved Sentinel X band 3D radar), one fire control centre (CTOC), one electro-optical camera vehicle (MSP500) and one Tactical Control Cell (TCC) vehicle .... The electro-optical MSP500 sensor is equipped with a laser rangefinder and a TV-camera, as well as an upgraded thermographic camera. These can be used to fire the missiles passively, which has been successfully tested.
The Australian Army just ordered the NASAMS 2 a few months ago (April 2017).
http://www.janes.com/article/69475/nasa ... bad-system
The army's new short-range GBAD system will replace the RBS-70 very short-range air defence system (VSHORAD) that has been in service since the late 1980s and provide the inner-most layer of air defence for deployed forces against fixed and rotary-wing aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, and missiles. It will be operated by the army's 16th Air Land Regiment (16 ALR).

Raytheon Australia told Jane's that the system would be an 'Australianised' version of the baseline NASAMS 2 that will make use of a common launch rail able to fire the Block II AIM-9X within visual range air-to-air missile and the AIM-120 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM).
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ramana wrote:
JTull wrote:If QR-SAM is a Astra derivative, then which one would BRFites like first and in numbers - Astra or QR-SAM? Personally, I'd like Astra in 1000s and don't want QR-SAM to be a distraction.

I would prioritize Astra over QR-SAM in the ratio 75:25 till enough stocks are built up, as Astra allows you to shoot the enemy aircraft before the need for QR-SAM.
I would quibble with this ratio using the following logic. The limit is the number of intercepting aircraft

A target (say an airbase) is a point and that point can be approached (theoretically) from 360 degrees. Intercepting aircraft have to be present to cover all 360 degrees - a factor that is likely to fail. The point target with enough defences simply needs to take down one or two attackers who will approach it to cause attrition to the enemy fleet.
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I am counting on Su-30s and LCA to use these.

Astra is BVR and in air to air combat that is a huge advantage.
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Akash Mk1 will be a good interim SRSAM/QRSAM as the missile is relatively cheap at Rs. 4 crores each. Any imported Short range missile with active RF seeker will be in the range of Rs. 20-30 crores each. Even indigenous ones with active seekers should be around Rs. 10 crores each.

With new orders of Akash Mk-1, it seems anything from 4000-8000 Akash Mk-1 missiles have been ordered in total. Let's hope BEL/BDL are able to produce them quickly. I think production of Akash MK-1 and Barak-8 will end by 2025, by which time Indigenous QRSAM and Akash-1 should be in production.

The next big fight is S400 vs DRDO AAD based SAM vs Barak-8 with booster.
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Avarachan wrote:The QR-SAM reminds me somewhat of the NASAMS 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASAMS_2
A complete NASAMS 2 battery consists of 12 missile launchers (LCHR) (each one carrying six AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles), eight radars (AN/MPQ-64 F1 Improved Sentinel X band 3D radar), one fire control centre (CTOC), one electro-optical camera vehicle (MSP500) and one Tactical Control Cell (TCC) vehicle .... The electro-optical MSP500 sensor is equipped with a laser rangefinder and a TV-camera, as well as an upgraded thermographic camera. These can be used to fire the missiles passively, which has been successfully tested.
The Australian Army just ordered the NASAMS 2 a few months ago (April 2017).
http://www.janes.com/article/69475/nasa ... bad-system
The army's new short-range GBAD system will replace the RBS-70 very short-range air defence system (VSHORAD) that has been in service since the late 1980s and provide the inner-most layer of air defence for deployed forces against fixed and rotary-wing aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, and missiles. It will be operated by the army's 16th Air Land Regiment (16 ALR).

Raytheon Australia told Jane's that the system would be an 'Australianised' version of the baseline NASAMS 2 that will make use of a common launch rail able to fire the Block II AIM-9X within visual range air-to-air missile and the AIM-120 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM).
NASAM is essentially a modular C2 system that can accommodate a multi weapon launcher and various sensors. It isn't designed to operate on the go but to user requirements for fixed or deployable air defense. Depending upon what combination you buy, you can have it as your primary VSHORAD (with the EO sensor and IIR weapon), SHORAD (Using the Aim-120 C7), and in the next couple of years an entry level Medium range defense system (AMRAAM-ER). Based on primary user (Norway) defined requirements and concept it is different from the QRSAM though some elements may appear similar.
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^^ Good points. Thank you.
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Any other news regarding ICBM test this year? Are we ready yet to show everyone that we have 10,000 wala.
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Post an old article on India's missile program from the west. 1995. We have indeed come a long way
As Indian scientists watched their new space rocket ascend over the Indian Ocean, they were jubilant. The rocket’s four giant stages lifted a three-quarter ton satellite into a near polar orbit, a tremendous achievement for Indian rocketry.

For the rest of the world, however, last October’s launch was more ominous: India had just proved that it could soon reach any point on the globe with a nuclear warhead.

India tested its first nuclear device in 1974. Since then, according to the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency), its researchers have progressed to working on more powerful thermonuclear bombs and the missiles to deliver them. India’s smallest nuclear-capable missile now threatens Pakistan, and its medium-range missile will threaten China’s border regions. If India converts its new space rocket to a missile, it could reach cities as far away as London, Tokyo and New York.

Whether India succeeds will depend on help from abroad. India has long claimed that it has a perfect right to run a space program, and India has never promised not to make nuclear-capable missiles. India is not seen as a “rogue country.” Yet, India has consistently used foreign help to convert its space rockets to nuclear-capable missiles. Imports, some clandestine, some overt, have nourished India’s nuclear and rocket efforts from the start.

India built the medium-range Agni missile by taking a first-stage rocket from a small space launcher and combining it with guidance technology developed by the German space agency. The effort dates from the 1960s. U.S. scientists from NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration) launched the first small rocket from Indian soil – an American Nike Apache – in 1963. “We were waiting for the payload to arrive when we saw a guy on a bicycle coming up an unpaved road,” recalls one NASA veteran of the launch. “He had the payload in the basket.”

From this humble beginning, the United States, Britain, France and Russia launched more than 350 small rockets over the next twelve years, all from India’s new Thumba test range, which these countries helped build and equip. It was through this early training that India learned the solid fuel technology that later wound up in the first stage of the Agni missile.

One of India’s ablest students was A. P. J. Abdul Kalam. While training in the United States, he visited the space centers where the U.S. Scout rocket was conceived and was being flown. Kalam returned home to build India’s first space rocket, the Satellite Launch Vehicle – SLV-3, a carbon copy of the Scout. NASA made Kalam’s task easier by supplying unclassified technical reports on the Scout’s design.

France supplied the next technology infusion. In the 1970s, its Societe Europeene de Propulsion gave India the technology for the Viking high-thrust liquid rocket motor, used on the European Space Agency’s Ariane satellite launcher. The Indian version, the “Vikas,” became the second stage of the large rocket India launched in October. Liquid fuel technology also helped India develop the Prithvi missile, which can reach Islamabad. Derived from a Soviet-supplied anti-aircraft missile, the Prithvi became the second stage of the Agni missile.

But aid from America and France was soon dwarfed by aid from Germany. In the late 1970s and throughout the 1980s, Germany helped India with three indispensable missile technologies: guidance, rocket-testing and composite materials. Earmarked for the space program, all were equally useful for building missiles.

In 1978, Germany installed an interfero-meter on an Indian rocket to measure, from the ground, a rocket’s angle of flight. Four years later, India tested its own version. From 1982 to 1989, Germany helped India build a navigation system for satellites based on a Motorola microprocessor. During the same period, and following the same steps, India developed its own navigation system for missiles and rockets based on the same microprocessor.

Germany also tested India’s first large rocket in a wind tunnel at Cologne-Portz; it helped India build its own rocket test facility; and it trained Indians in glass and carbon fiber composites at Stuttgart and Braunschweig. These lightweight, heat-resistant fibers are ideal for missile nozzles and nose cones. To help India use the fibers, Germany provided the documentation for a precision filament winding machine, a sensitive item now controlled for export by other countries, including the United States.

India’s quest for imports provoked a row with the United States in 1992. The Russian space agency tried to sell India advanced cryogenic engines for India’s most ambitious space rocket, the Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle (GSLV). The United States opposed the deal, rejecting India’s argument that the engines were only suitable for space launchers. “If you can do space launches, you can do ballistic missiles,” a Commerce Department analyst told the Risk Report. The analyst’s stance is buttressed by a CIA report declassified in 1993. It said that a space launcher “could be converted relatively quickly by technologically advanced countries … to a surface to surface missile.”

In 1993, India’s procurement effort surfaced again. A Massachusetts company was charged with violating U.S. export laws by selling India components for a hot isostatic press. The press, which India obtained through the company’s Scottish subsidiary, can be used to shape advanced composites for missile nose cones.

The question now is what India will do next. If it perfects a lightweight nuclear warhead, which the CIA says it is working on, the Agni missile could carry bombs to Beijing. And if India perfects an accurate long-range guidance system, its new space rocket could become an intercontinental ballistic missile. Success would change the strategic equation in Asia and make India a world nuclear power.

But India still needs crucial help. A recent Pentagon study cites composites, electronics, computers, sensors and navigation equipment as some of the technologies in which India is still weak.
http://www.wisconsinproject.org/indian- ... apability/
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Prospina trials to be held at Jaisalmer firing range
Prospina missile earlier known as Nag is all set for trials at the Chandan Field Firing Range in Jaisalmere. While the much delayed the Gen-3 Fire and Forget Anti-Tank Guided Missile had successful night trials at a range of four km earlier last year, the infra-red seekers had a problem in differentiating the target from the surroundings in hot desert conditions during the day time.

As per the official sources, the missile is now being tested for a reduced range of 3-3.2km during the day time from the earlier target of 4km for both day and night.

Officials shared that the trials for this much awaited missile shall be conducted in the second week of June for testing the performance of Prospina with improved Imaging Infra Red Seekers (which guide the missile to its target after launch) for extreme hot weather in June.

Nag a baby of Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL) of DRDO was earlier a part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme of the DRDO launched in 1980s.

Success evaded DRDO for a long time in case of Project Nag, now renamed and launched as Prospina taking this missile out of the cluster of missiles under Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme of (IGMDP) of India. A couple of months after the past user trials failed, the government had to give its nod for procuring second generation 10,000 Russian Konkurs-M, Anti Tank Guided Missiles for Indian Armys infantry formations.

Prospina successfully hit the target four kilometers away during a night trial at Mahajan Field Firing' Range in Bikaner last year validating the enhanced range of its Imaging Infra Red seeker.

However, subsequently the DRDO officials revealed that the missile would now be tested and handed over to Army with a reduced range of 3.2 km or so especially during the peak day hours in the first phase.

The missile saw roadblocks since its earlier Imaging Infra Red Seekers were not able to differentiate between the target and surroundings in hot desert temperatures with both reaching the same temperature.

Highly sensitive detectors have been placed on missile tip for sensing heat or infra red signals in three different thermal scenarios including that of a thermal differential within the target, between the target and the background and surrounding temperature variation.

Prospina shall be mounted and transported on a Mechanised Infantry Combat Vehicle. Grand plans as per the officials are underway to confer this all weather missile with an unmatched competence of detecting and hitting the targets with a very Low Thermal Contrast vis a vis surroundings to the tune of a mere 0.2 degree Celsius.

This job of developing High Resolution Imaging Infra Red seekers as per the demand projected by the Indian Army was entrusted to Research Centre Imarat (RCI), a Hyderabad based DRDO lab.
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QRSAM images posted by Shiv Aroor
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Can the QRSAM be adapted for vertical launch. So that it can act a tier 2 defense for ships in addition to barak 8
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On Nag/Prospina - just go ahead and induct the damn missile. 3.2 km is OK...4 km during peak day-time temp can come later.
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The air defense missile being purchased/developed is surely becoming more and more confusing by the day.
Akash MK-I earlier, since the days of IGMDP, was always declared as a medium range missile. Now it is being designated as SRSAM.
The orders for all the different systems are also really confusing.

IAF orders for Akash MK-1 have been - 2+6+7 = 15 squadrons as on date. In addition to this, IAF is in the process of deploying an unknown number of SpyDer SRSAM systems. The deliveries have started recently. The Akash MK-1 were to replace Pichora SAMs as the primary AD missiles for the airbases.
Apart from this, IAF is likely to order about 9 squadrons of MRSAM(Barak-8). don't know if actual orders have been placed or not. After this the MRSAM requirement in future might be taken up by Akash-NG. In the meantime additional SRSAM/MRSAM requirement might be fulfilled by Akash-1S. The first trials of Akash 1S have not taken place as yet.

IA ordered 2 regiments of Akash MK-1 as its MRSAM. The deliveries are ongoing. However, in May it was declared that IA will now get 5 regiments of Barak-8 with a 50 Km range as its MRSAM. IA was also supposed to get SpyDer or other imported system for its SRSAM requirement. However, now it has been announced that IA will get an additional 2 regiments of Akash MK-1 to cover its SRSAM requirement.
Also, some news suggest that the barak-8 based MRSAM for IA, will be a customized missile with a 50 Kms range, slightly different from the MRSAM that is going to be inducted by IAF. Total 4 regiments of Akash MK-1 and 5 regiments of Barak-8. That's a huge quantity SAM systems for IA.

Apart from this, both IA and IAF will get an as yet unspecified number of QRSAM systems as well. The quantity for both services is supposed to be quite big. What I don't understand is why IAF gets SpyDer as the SRSAM, when Akash-MK1 is already in service and more units are being added continuously, while IA will get Akash MK-1 over the SpyDer?

Apart from this, there is also the S400 procurement, DRDO LRSAM project being talked about, as well as BMD with AAD/PDV nearing first stage completion.

Too much confusion. The new radar systems being deployed/developed is perhaps even more confusing. Maybe someone like KaranM, can help clear the picture.
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JTull wrote:Prospina trials to be held at Jaisalmer firing range
Prospina missile earlier known as Nag is all set for trials at the Chandan Field Firing Range in Jaisalmere. While the much delayed the Gen-3 Fire and Forget Anti-Tank Guided Missile had successful night trials at a range of four km earlier last year, the infra-red seekers had a problem in differentiating the target from the surroundings in hot desert conditions during the day time.

As per the official sources, the missile is now being tested for a reduced range of 3-3.2km during the day time from the earlier target of 4km for both day and night.

Officials shared that the trials for this much awaited missile shall be conducted in the second week of June for testing the performance of Prospina with improved Imaging Infra Red Seekers (which guide the missile to its target after launch) for extreme hot weather in June.

Nag a baby of Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL) of DRDO was earlier a part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme of the DRDO launched in 1980s.

Success evaded DRDO for a long time in case of Project Nag, now renamed and launched as Prospina taking this missile out of the cluster of missiles under Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme of (IGMDP) of India. A couple of months after the past user trials failed, the government had to give its nod for procuring second generation 10,000 Russian Konkurs-M, Anti Tank Guided Missiles for Indian Armys infantry formations.

Prospina successfully hit the target four kilometers away during a night trial at Mahajan Field Firing' Range in Bikaner last year validating the enhanced range of its Imaging Infra Red seeker.

However, subsequently the DRDO officials revealed that the missile would now be tested and handed over to Army with a reduced range of 3.2 km or so especially during the peak day hours in the first phase.

The missile saw roadblocks since its earlier Imaging Infra Red Seekers were not able to differentiate between the target and surroundings in hot desert temperatures with both reaching the same temperature.

Highly sensitive detectors have been placed on missile tip for sensing heat or infra red signals in three different thermal scenarios including that of a thermal differential within the target, between the target and the background and surrounding temperature variation.

Prospina shall be mounted and transported on a Mechanised Infantry Combat Vehicle. Grand plans as per the officials are underway to confer this all weather missile with an unmatched competence of detecting and hitting the targets with a very Low Thermal Contrast vis a vis surroundings to the tune of a mere 0.2 degree Celsius.

This job of developing High Resolution Imaging Infra Red seekers as per the demand projected by the Indian Army was entrusted to Research Centre Imarat (RCI), a Hyderabad based DRDO lab.
Why the name of NAG was changed to Prospina? What does Prospina stand for? Has the design for NAMICA been finalized or after the testing of Prospina we will again be back to square 1 with design for NAMICA, not being in line with what the Army wants?
HELINA needs to be tested and perfected first. The platforms intended to carry HELINA are ready and waiting and more delay will only lead to more imports.
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mody wrote:
Why the name of NAG was changed to Prospina? What does Prospina stand for? Has the design for NAMICA been finalized or after the testing of Prospina we will again be back to square 1 with design for NAMICA, not being in line with what the Army wants?
HELINA needs to be tested and perfected first. The platforms intended to carry HELINA are ready and waiting and more delay will only lead to more imports.
Very disppointing indeed, this name change and endless trials.

In the January 2016 tests at Mahajan ranges, Nag, which was said to be in the final user configuration, scored a “bull’s eye” and successfully hit the target 4 km away during a night trial. During the test, the Thermal Target System (TTS) was used as target for the missile. According to DRDO, the January 2016 trial validated the enhanced 4-km range capability of Imaging-Infrared seeker. With the modified seeker achieving requisite range capability, the scientists said the Nag missile was now ready for final, pre-induction user trials.

The DRDO Magazine, in its November 2016, issue, stated that in the final ‘development trials’ on September 28-30, 2016, NAG had hit bull’s eye (target’s turret section or the engine) at the full-range of 4 Kms when fired at the ‘worst time window’ and it was confirmed the Indian Army present on site. After this trial, DRDO announced that the NAG was ready for induction into the Army.

Of course, the Army never says anything. DRDO keeps claiming so many things. Very frustrating.
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rohitvats wrote:On Nag/Prospina - just go ahead and induct the damn missile. 3.2 km is OK...4 km during peak day-time temp can come later.
+ 1 , 3-4 km range for a 152 mm F&F class weapon is nothing to scoff at not many country have those capability in that caliber.
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I am more interested in knowing how are the hellfire and the spike LR achieving the claimed 8 km range during the day time
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OT: prospina sounds like some russian/firang, i think they are learning from Arjun experience
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