Tejas Mk.2: News & Discussions - 25 February 2018

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby Aditya_V » 14 Mar 2018 18:40

Manish Jain wrote:DRDO asks for LCA MK2 funding.

https://www.stratpost.com/drdo-asks-for-lca-mk2-funding/


From the Link

he LCA Mk1A includes four specific capability improvements prescribed by the IAF. These include:

Digital RWR and External SPJ Pod
Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radar
Combined Interrogator and Transponder (CIT)
ASRAM – Close Combat Missile
Beyond Visual Range (BVR) Missile


Does this mean it has been decided to Integrate ASRAAM for Tejas MK1A and drop Python 5?

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby SaiK » 15 Mar 2018 09:14

PratikDas wrote:
SaiK wrote:Pratik ji, need better graphics.. that background matrix grid might not come out well on prints.

The checkers are added by the viewing program to depict a transparency. The transparency blends well on forums like this which have a color scheme and then the image renders without checkers.

In any case, here are 3 versions with solid backgrounds, depending on your taste. Click for higher-resolution.
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Image $5. vistaprint.com

Image $15. customprint.com
I have asked for if they can print: नभः स्पृशं दीप्तम् below. 'll revert soon.
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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby yensoy » 15 Mar 2018 09:52

Can the 324 Tejas swarm be shaped like a Tejas?

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby Khalsa » 15 Mar 2018 13:27

^^^^^ ooooh

see you are moving the requirements just like the IAF
ha ha ha ha ha

The T Shirt is going to be delivered as a Mk1 , Mk1A and Mk2 version.

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby pravula » 15 Mar 2018 13:29

:rotfl:
Khalsa wrote:^^^^^ ooooh

see you are moving the requirements just like the IAF
ha ha ha ha ha

The T Shirt is going to be delivered as a Mk1 , Mk1A and Mk2 version.

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby yensoy » 15 Mar 2018 13:43

Khalsa wrote:^^^^^ ooooh

see you are moving the requirements just like the IAF
ha ha ha ha ha


I denounce that. It is merely a canard. :rotfl:

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby SaiK » 15 Mar 2018 17:44

Read how Tejas Mk2 will impact $billions for firangs
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indi ... SKCN1GR081

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby PratikDas » 15 Mar 2018 20:49

yensoy wrote:Can the 324 Tejas swarm be shaped like a Tejas?

This was an internal requirement which didn’t meet delivery deadlines. It will indeed be the Mk1A.

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby Singha » 15 Mar 2018 21:43

the full sleeves falling 3 inches short of wrist length indicate its 3 legged cheetah pedigree and urgent import of tommy hilfiger shirt made in costa rica for $60 each is needed to keep up depleting t-shirt numbers.

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Postby ArjunPandit » 16 Mar 2018 01:04

OT but couldnt resist how about the 4 headed ashok stambh with only 3 lions visible at any time? More apt for an indian product

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby Indranil » 16 Mar 2018 02:01

That's a legendary post IMHO

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby Gagan » 16 Mar 2018 10:53

The Tee shirt GSQRs are changing
Someone has looked at shiny brochires from UnderArmor, Lacoste, and Tommy Hilfigher to come up with updated GSQRs at the 11th hour

BTW, 2 Tee shirt manufacturers are in contention to supply as many as 126 Tee Shirts at $80 a shirt excluding accessories.
Note: Customization of design is extra and you will be charged about $20 per Tee shirt for any changes
Note: It doesn’t matter if your local Tee shirt costs $20 onlee, our uber rates are fixed onlee. We charge you for the experience and the logo value - the Tee is just a piece of cloth

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby yensoy » 16 Mar 2018 11:19

Our Tee shirt very good.

America friend put on and like. Take photo too. Also Singapore friend, and France friend. They all like very much.

But our India friend don't like. Why?

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby JTull » 16 Mar 2018 11:38

yensoy wrote:
But our India friend don't like. Why?


Because F-solah T is available for $20 and it says 4000 on it instead of 324. It can be made in India with Egyptian cotton on German machines with American paint. The T will also come with 10 year maintenance contract at $120 per T. All Ts will come in size XXXL and any attempt to modify it to your size will cost another $50. You will need prior permission from designer to wear it. If you get close to someone wearing a F-22 T then your T is likely to spontaneously develop big holes.

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby JayS » 16 Mar 2018 11:57

Singha wrote:the full sleeves falling 3 inches short of wrist length indicate its 3 legged cheetah pedigree and urgent import of tommy hilfiger shirt made in costa rica for $60 each is needed to keep up depleting t-shirt numbers.


:rotfl: :rotfl:

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Postby Haridas » 16 Mar 2018 21:06

Very ironic and funny at the same time. :rotfl:
I ask the fun be directed on named Presstitute with PK =.999 and delivered BVR of this echo chamber. :lol:

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby prasannasimha » 16 Mar 2018 23:55

Can we go back to technical discussions now

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby PratikDas » 18 Mar 2018 00:09

PratikDas wrote:
yensoy wrote:Can the 324 Tejas swarm be shaped like a Tejas?

This was an internal requirement which didn’t meet delivery deadlines. It will indeed be the Mk1A.

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby Rakesh » 18 Mar 2018 00:49

Pratik, excellent job! I like both, but the first one looks gorgeous! Can it be without the black triangle and just the aircraft itself? So the Tejas in black and each individual bird in white?

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby PratikDas » 18 Mar 2018 01:01

Rakesh wrote:Pratik, excellent job! I like both, but the first one looks gorgeous! Can it be without the black triangle and just the aircraft itself? So the Tejas in black and each individual bird in white?

Thank you, Rakesh ji. Is this what you were looking for?

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby Rakesh » 18 Mar 2018 01:13

That is beautiful Pratik!!!! Put that on a t-shirt and I will buy one. You have got a winner on your hands. Please do not forget to put 324 Tejas below though. That term is important. Just like how you have it in the first picture.

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby PratikDas » 18 Mar 2018 01:39

Rakesh wrote:That is beautiful Pratik!!!! Put that on a t-shirt and I will buy one. You have got a winner on your hands. Please do not forget to put 324 Tejas below though. That term is important. Just like how you have it in the first picture.

Updated my previous post above. I'm glad you like it!

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby Kartik » 18 Mar 2018 01:44

Great job Pratik!

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby Rakesh » 18 Mar 2018 02:02

PratikDas wrote:
Rakesh wrote:That is beautiful Pratik!!!! Put that on a t-shirt and I will buy one. You have got a winner on your hands. Please do not forget to put 324 Tejas below though. That term is important. Just like how you have it in the first picture.

Updated my previous post above. I'm glad you like it!

You the man!!! That is beautiful! Copyright it and churn them out!

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby PratikDas » 18 Mar 2018 02:25

Rakesh wrote:
PratikDas wrote:Updated my previous post above. I'm glad you like it!

You the man!!! That is beautiful! Copyright it and churn them out!

Enjoy: https://tejas.threadless.com/designs/tejas-324

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby tsarkar » 18 Mar 2018 02:38

Pratik, can I make a revised Air Staff Qualitative Requirement of only the 324 smaller Tejas in the shape of Tejas minus the black outline? The double delta of smaller Tejas is a subtle but great indicator.

For ASQR No 2, for the lettering Tejas 324, can you use the font below? You can include the words Air Force Fighter as in the actual fighter for authenticity.

http://static.dnaindia.com/sites/defaul ... ejas-5.jpg

ASQR No 3 - In the background keep a brush stroke Indian Flag banner like this

https://depositphotos.com/136185056/sto ... ndian.html
https://www.pixelstalk.net/free-downloa ... ox&slide=1

ASQR No 4 - use a background like this

https://www.storyblocks.com/stock-image ... obj6gq82di

And make the Ashok Chakra in blue of 324 Tejas

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby SaiK » 18 Mar 2018 04:27

Superb Pratik sahib ...Now GD can go for Tommy or Ralph

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby PratikDas » 18 Mar 2018 06:53

:)
tsarkar wrote:Pratik, can I make a revised Air Staff Qualitative Requirement

tsarkar ji, BRF experience has taught me that ASQRs must be complied with.

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I hope you like it! I will now take a break before SHQ initiates court martial proceedings.

Kartik ji, SaiK ji, thank you!

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby Vivek K » 18 Mar 2018 07:37

Superb!! Mera Bharat Mahaan rahay aur apney mein yeh vishwaas banaai rakhey! Mera yeh sapna sakar hua!

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby suryag » 18 Mar 2018 08:21

Folks enough of this Tee discussions, can we please stop

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby PratikDas » 18 Mar 2018 08:31

suryag wrote:Folks enough of this Tee discussions, can we please stop

Of course.

Do remember though that not only the folks on this forum but the folks who actually built the Tejas would’ve waited for this sign of acceptance and dedication to their cause since the first flight in 2001. If you had a child then, s/he would be going to college now. It deserved to be celebrated, especially since the IAF had relegated it to the Special Olympics for having 3 legs.

That being said, there won’t be any more from me on this.

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby Indranil » 18 Mar 2018 09:20

I say that this is actually fine. When countrymen are celebrating an achievement of great magnitude, it should be encouraged.

But please create a separate thread for this.

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby yensoy » 18 Mar 2018 21:57

Fantastic artwork Pratik. Who is going to get these printed, and how can I get one?

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Postby PratikDas » 19 Mar 2018 07:36

yensoy wrote:Fantastic artwork Pratik. Who is going to get these printed, and how can I get one?

Thank you, yensoy ji. My response is here: https://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?p=2259685#p2259685

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby jaysimha » 20 Mar 2018 14:55

https://www.ada.gov.in/currentdocs/RFQ-2018.pdf

AERONAUTICAL DEVELOPMENT AGENCYP
PB No.1718, Vimanapura Post, Bengaluru 560 017
REQUEST FOR QUOTATION (RFQ)

ADA intends to outsource certain tasks in the form of work packages. It involves placement of Engineers and other personnel, on work package basis, to carry out time-bound tasks, which are temporary in nature. In order to have effective and optimal utilization of manpower, the manpower requirement has been identified in 3 categories viz., (a) Engineer, (b) Technician and (c) Graduates.

(a) Engineers on work package basis are required for the Project related activities. Work package Engineers also follow up the activities progressing at various Work Centres of ADA and report the progress. The Engineers shall support the Senior Scientists/Engineers of ADA in the above-related activities. The nature of work involved are design related activities, testing &qualification activities, co-ordination activities with manufacturing agencies, developing computer programmes.

(b)Technicians with Diploma Holders and ITI qualification and with experience are also required to carry out aircraft related activities.


(c) Graduates are required for activities related to data base management, preparation of technical reports typing and other related works to various Project/Technical Directorates as well as support fields of ADA.

Scope of Work

To execute work packages awarded by ADA by placing their man power and carry out the tasks and fulfilling the milestones and obligations of the Contract. Following are the details of work package,divided under the broad categories as shown below, to be executed by the Work Package Provider(WPP) by placing their manpower at ADA

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Postby JayS » 20 Mar 2018 17:26

^^ That's around 650 personnel worth of work per year. Huge requirement for MK2 certification. Now we are talking.

But this is on the body-shopping model, looks like and I really hate this kind of thing. People working on it will get peanuts as salary.

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby Zynda » 20 Mar 2018 18:20

^^I heard going forward, primarily it will be outsourcing rather than hiring direct employees. Unfortunately in desh, contracting pays peanuts...

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby Haridas » 20 Mar 2018 20:34

JayS wrote:^^ That's around 650 personnel worth of work per year. Huge requirement for MK2 certification. Now we are talking.

But this is on the body-shopping model, looks like and I really hate this kind of thing. People working on it will get peanuts as salary.

Economic model is inherently exploitative., but that is life.

At least they will get a salery, and allow them to find better employment with earned experience, unless of course they learn from regular full time how to kill time in chai panee and fat take home cash . Jmt.

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby nam » 20 Mar 2018 22:10

Zynda wrote:^^I heard going forward, primarily it will be outsourcing rather than hiring direct employees. Unfortunately in desh, contracting pays peanuts...


This is better. Don't want aviation skills be stuck in PSU. Want these guys to take the experience and work with our private sector.

GoI should encourage even larger outsourcing/contracting for important technology skills.

I am now starting to believe ADA is serious about AMCA & UCAV.

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Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

Postby SaiK » 27 Mar 2018 07:28

From Mk1 dhaaga:

MTOW : 16,200 kg (35,715 lbs)
Uttam : Design is complete. Next month testing a previous version of the indigenous radar.


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