alokgupt wrote:1) There is nothing more significant than building capability to win the war with China and Pakistan. There is positive impact of having overwhelming military capability on internal security as well as external sponsors will be more careful.
To say that nothing can happen without the need to be secure is obviously obvious; captain obvious. The question is not yes or no; but how much and at what cost.
2) I have asking for three things: a) We don't have enough fighters. We need 60 squadrons.
So you ask; I ask that we need the death star. What value is your asking; who are you to ask. Whats your credibility.
Why are Air Chiefs; BKs and think tanks not asking for the same? Any idea. Are they all stupid and you are the only one who sees the truth?
Then what kind of squardens we need; do we need 60 Squardons of raptors? Why? why not?
c) We need build 600-1000 AGNI 3. I hope once AGNI 3+ is tested and final we do raise to mass produce it.
Look boss; there is a difference between intellectual masturbation and discussing reality.
When you say we NEED this -- you also need to say why. For example we can look up what BK writes and the numbers he talks of.
. So far the rate has been less than sufficient.
Again a throw away assertion; back it up with other proofs.
We cannot make the same mistake of outsourcing our defence to America.
And who exactly said that? And is this 71? Is India == Pak? Are the situations same? What nonsense is this?
4) China will commit all their forces to which ever war they fight. It is naive to assume PRC military will start the war without knowing how to win it. So we got to be ready for this.
Boss; why didn't they do that in 62? And if PRC are supermen who start every war only when they can win; they should not have been beaten with Vietnam before?
And they will start a war to win; but thats not special about PRC; everyone starts a war thinking they will win. Do you know a single country starting a war thinking they will lose? What kind of 2nd grade logic is this?
Secondly every one commits all the forces they can; however logistics and other threat perception keeps things from less than 100% in real life. So the question is what they really CAN of the 100%. That you have no knowledge of.
Thirdly what is winning? How exactly does China define winning? If at the end of war 2 Chinese are alive and no Indian is that win? Is that what they want?
What are Chinese goals in a war with India? What would they want? Why? At what price? You have to discuss all the aspects before making a blanket statement.
Please grow; pretty please. You have been spoiling the thread with fairly inane set of posts which have no data (or ex termly questionable ones) and exterme hyper polations.
No one is saying that a war is not what we should prepare for -- the question is what is the kind we should prepare for -- what will be the goals the cost and the objectives.
There is a difference between us and the Pakis Alok; when will you learn?