Tamang wrote:Jamaat-e-Islami protests Tricolour at madrassas
Bhopal: The Jamaat-e-Islami in Madhya Pradesh may object to hoisting the national flag at madrassas, but many other Muslim bodies and intellectuals see no problem in such a move.
Thank you for posting this. If we are to discuss this here (as we must) let us do it dharmically.
When modern independent India was created (15 Aug 1947) and later the Republic of India created (59 years ago today) it was not a given that everyone exactly agreed or everyone saw eye to eye. A whole lot of people disagreed with a whole lot of things that were decided or done.
One of the reasons why people said that India would break up was because
so many people seemed to disagree with anything and everything. Ramchandra Guha's take on history since independence makes a good read albeit a bit heavy and boring because he brings out a large number of these disagreements which people had with India the nation and how they were overcome.
For modern day Indians, the biggest and most traumatic disagreement that insulted the Hindu psyche was the assertion that Muslims cannot live among Hindus for a long list of reasons that was basically unfair to Hindus, and predicted that Muslims would be treated badly by Hindus when independence and parliamentary democracy came to India, and therefore India needed to be split up into lands for Muslims and Muslims alone so that the interests of the Muslims of India would be served well by letting Muslims have their own independent land, leaving the Hindus to do what they please (to rot, it was expected, by all that I read).
As many have pointed out, this desire to see a split was not "all Muslims" but a subset who had been privileged as Muslims. They had lost those privileges, and expected that the British, whom they blamed for removal of privileges, would somehow restore all those special privileges and kingdoms that they felt they owned before leaving India.
The idea that these formerly "privileged" Muslims (Ashraf?) could expect any kind of privilege in India over and above anyone else is deeply distasteful to Hindus who retain memories of the murder, looting, rape and destruction brought in by the ancestors of of those Muslims who considered themselves somehow "privileged" and who felt they were entitled to something special in India.
I would like to point out a curious fact at this juncture. If you study the Christian world and the Islamic world - their histories appear to be "written". So the Christian world is dead sure of its history for 2000 years. Time starts years ago for the Christian world 2000 years ago, and, using the calendar that the world uses - it is now the "Twenty first century AD" after Jesus Christ. So time is measured from Christ by the world. For Islam time is measured, and history recorded from Mohammad's time.
What is forgotten by both these groups in their confident sense of certainty is that history extends far back beyond 2000 years for both Hindus and the Chinese.
Muslims of India who felt "entitled" because of their short 1300 year history do not see that Hindus were there before and if anyone is going to ask about a sense of entitlement, Muslims are fairly low down in the pecking order. India has had a millennium or more of history BEFORE MOHAMMAD.
But still, at the time of independence, the followers of Mohammad did something really nasty. They said that humans CANNOT be equal if some are Hindus. They said, for fairness and equality, all Muslims must come together in their own land within the borders of ancient India.
What people do not talk about is what Hindus of India did after allowing the creation of Pakistan by a bunch of Muslims who were willing to subvert India the way the same bunch are raping Pakistan now.
Hindus agreed to say:
1) It is not true that Hindus are cruel
2) It is not true that Muslims would not be allowed to lead their lives in india
And in saying this, Muslims were given special privileges in India that were not given to Hindus. This was basically a magnanimous symbol from Hindus who were almost begging to Indian Muslims "Stay with us. Let us make a nation. We the majority Hindus will allow you to have your laws and allow you live more Islamically than you can live in Islamic nations. just agree to get along and be friendly, like we are willing to be friendly with you"
And in the decades after independence, Hindu have kept their part of the bargain in terms of laws and the constitution even as Pakistan constantly played to the Muslim gallery in India telling them that they (Indian Muslims) are traitors and should follow an Islamic cause, if not a Pakistani cause.
With Pakistan and the Islam of Pakistan eating shit today, the time has come to clearly ask Muslims of India which choice was better - a totally Islamic Pakistan or a Pluralist coexisting india?
Muslims of India have to join the rest of India and stop whining and complaining about takleef. A very large number of Indian Muslims have already done that. But the few intransigents who are holding back need to be told in no uncertain terms to see the writing in the wall. Islam the religion was accepted by Hindus as a special dharma. Dharma is irreligious and if they say it is not Islamic they are wrong. If they violently insist then fine, their view is adharmic and must be eliminated. e will not allow Islam to either create new Pakistans, or create a Pakistan like chaos in India. Even if it means hardship and bloodshed.Our dharma is still alive and not that stupid, It has seen many centuries more than Islam, and has handles many more religions wisely.
Six decades have been spent swallowing and suppressing Hindu takleef so that Muslims would not feel takleef. But the time has come for plain speaking. Muslim leaders need a change of tack and a change of course. Just see the shit that is occurring in Pakistan and the news reports on this thread about Muslim backwardness. Neither freedom in a Muslim country, nor special privileges in India can bring Muslims out of the shit pit unless their leaders can see that they are on the wrong path, The Islam they follow is definitely leading them up the wrong path. They can keep their Quran and beliefs, but they need to come to their senses and stop following idiot Saudi Sultans and make a new path for themselves. They need to reinterpret the Quran rather than idol worship the Quran, set as it is in stone as they do now.