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‘Hindu terror’ cases hit dead end
Links of Hindu extremists to terror generated a lot of heat. Home minister Sushilkumar Shinde had accused the BJP and its ideological parent the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS) of holding terror training camps and promoting Hindu terrorism. He later apologised for the comment.

In April 2011, the NIA was handed over seven terror cases, including the 2007 Mecca Masjid and the Samjhauta Express blasts, on the grounds that the strikes were carried out and planned by same set of people.

It was hoped that a single agency rather than multiple state agencies working at cross-purposes would be able to unmask them. But, three years, a dozen arrests and six charge-sheets later, investigators concede they are not even close to the goal. Instead the agency is coming around to the fact that it does not have enough to even question Indresh Kumar, who is thought to have encouraged the extremists to carry out the strikes and even financed them.

The NIA declined comment on the story.

Kumar, who was questioned by the CBI in December 2010, is one of the few national office-bearers of the RSS who also heads its units in the Northeast and Jammu and Kashmir.

The accused told their interrogators that the RSS leader had during two meetings asked them to continue “their work”. He is also alleged to have given money to former RSS pracharak Sunil Joshi, accused of leading the group of extremists who carried out six blasts between September 2006 and September 2008 that killed 138 people, for “his activities”. Joshi was found murdered in December 2007. He was killed by his associates who worried that he would tell on them, an NIA probe claimed.

The agency had statements of witnesses and some of the accused against Kumar but these could only be used against him “if we can corroborate them with evidence that can stand judicial scrutiny”, an investigator told HT on condition of anonymity.

NIA officials say they are hamstrung as the cases were three to six years old when they were asked to probe. “Suppose for a meeting or even for planting a bomb, an accused travelled by bus or train. How can we find record of the journey now and any witnesses who could have seen them travel?” the investigator said. “We doubt if we can prove some of the cases during trial,” he said.

Besides, three accused -– Sandeep Dange, Ramji Kalasangra and Amit Chauhan -- are yet to be arrested. The NIA is also caught in a protracted legal battle to get custody of key accused Col Prasad Shrikant Purohit and Sudhakar Dwivedi.

RSS’ Kumar said he wasn’t surprised. Calling attempts to link him to the blasts as a “fraud” on “patriots” by government agencies, Kumar told HT the cases were cooked up to malign the “nationalists” within and outside the RSS. “There was no evidence against me,” he said.

Asked if the NIA’s talk of lack of evidence could have anything to do with the perception of a possible change of guard at the Centre after the ongoing polls, Kumar said: “I am not at the mercy of governments which come and go. It is a question of justice for patriots.”
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NVS on intelligence/NSA czars, JN Dixit and Narayanan. Narayanan's capabilities (or lack thereof) is already known here but new stuff on Dixit I didn't know http://www.newsinsight.net/TeamModi-6.aspx
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India turns to Russia to help supply arms to Afghan forces
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India has signed an agreement under which it will pay Russia to supply arms and equipment to the Afghan military as foreign combat troops prepare to leave the country, in a move that risks infuriating Pakistan.

Under the deal, smaller arms such as light artillery and mortars will be sourced from Russia and moved to Afghanistan.

But it could eventually involve the transfer of heavy artillery, tanks and even combat helicopters that the Afghans have been asking India for since last year.

India has already been training military officers from Afghanistan, hosted a 60-member Special Forces group last year in the deserts of Rajasthan and supplied equipment such as combat vehicles and field medical support facilities.

But the decision to meet some of Afghanistan's military hardware demands - albeit sourcing them from Russia - points to a deepening role in Afghanistan aimed at preventing it from slipping back into the hands of the Taliban and other Islamist groups that are hostile to India.

It comes as China, another big player in the region which borders Afghanistan via a small, remote strip of land, is preparing for a more robust role in Afghanistan, also concerned that the withdrawal of NATO troops will leave a hotbed of militancy on its doorstep.

Like China, India is unlikely to put boots on the ground to reinforce its strategy in Afghanistan.

"We can't commit troops on the ground, we can't give them the military equipment that they have been asking us for, for all sorts of reasons including the lack of surplus stocks," said an Indian foreign ministry official, declining to be named because of the sensitivity of the issue.

"Involving a third party is the next best option," the official said, referring to plans to source military supplies from Russia for Afghan forces.
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India’s new language of killing - by Praveen Swami

Will Modi authorize offensive covert ops against elements inimical to India's interests?

The articles says our current NSA quashed this idea under MMS and told the agencies to keep their hands in their pockets. Some flare for words! :rotfl:
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Indian intelligence agencies likely to start targetted strikes against terrorists


After having given peace a chance, Indian intelligence establishment is frustrated that talks have not yielded results. Afghanistan’s intelligence agency NDS faced with similar problen, has shown Indian intelligence agencies the way targeted operations can be carried out.

Indian Embassy bombing by ISI in 2008. CIA said that the ISI officers had not been renegades, indicating that their actions might have been authorized by superiors in Aabpara, Islamabad.

Early one summer morning in 2008, an ageing Toyota car slowed down to turn at the corner next to the Indian Embassy complex in Kabul, transforming itself as it did so into a wall of searing, white light. Fifty-eight people were killed and 141 injured, their bodies torn apart by shock waves, fires, and shards of metal and glass. Inside hours, western intelligence services listened in to Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) officers inside Pakistan congratulating the perpetrators. Furious, then National Security Adviser M.K. Narayanan called for action. “Talk-talk is better than fight-fight,” he said, “but it hasn’t worked. I think we need to pay back in the same coin.”

Mr. Narayanan, intelligence officers serving at the time recall, authorised India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) to begin a quiet dialogue on doing just that with its Afghan counterparts. It found a willing partner in Amrullah Saleh, the then head of the Riyasat-e Amniyat-e Milli, or the National Directorate of Security (NDS). Following the 26/11 strike, the officials said, RAW even explored the prospect of targeting Lashkar-e-Taiba chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, using NDS’ assets inside jihadist groups hostile to the Pakistan Army.

India’s intelligence czar, though, never got the political clearance he hoped for. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh remained committed to the dialogue process with Pakistan, believing that bomb-for-bomb strikes would increase terrorist violence. In early 2010, foreign service officer Shivshankar Menon replaced Mr. Narayanan, and the doves came to control policy-making.“Keep your hands in your pockets,” a senior RAW official recalls Mr. Menon as telling Afghan desk officers in mid-2010 — and that was that.

Ever since the 1999 Kargil war, India’s security calculus has been derived from the assumption that the U.S. would moderate sub-conventional warfare against India. Dr. Singh’s 10 years in office show that this belief was well-founded. The authoritative South Asia Terrorism Portal database shows that violence in Jammu and Kashmir declined year-on-year from 2002 to 2013 — and though there’s substantial evidence to suggest that the ISI backed the 26/11 attacks, international pressure has forced it to rein in jihadists since.

In the past two years, though, the wheel has turned. The Pakistan Army’s war against jihadists is flailing and its control over one-time proxies among the jihadists has diminished. Political parties there have sought to appease the increasingly powerful jihadists. For their part, Pakistan’s Taliban has sought to wean away the ethnic-Punjabi constituency of state-backed organisations like the Lashkar-e-Taiba. Last year, Tehreek-e-Taliban leader Wali-ur-Rahman warned that “the practical struggle for a sharia system that we are carrying out in Pakistan, the same way we will continue it in Kashmir, and the same way we will implement the sharia system in India too.” Indian Mujahideen are training with the Taliban; violence in Kashmir is up.

Little genius is needed to see what might emerge to the west of India’s borders: a nuclear-armed state with crumbling central authority, controlled for all practical purposes by rival Islamist militias. “The water,” Pakistan’s military ruler General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq instructed his spymaster, General Akhtar Malik, in December 1979, “must boil at the right temperature.” Now, the water seems dangerously close to boiling over.

Faced with not-dissimilar problems, Afghanistan’s NDS has made its choice. Last year, U.S. forces captured senior Pakistani Taliban commander Latif Mehsud from the custody of Afghanistan’s intelligence services — lending weight to claims that the NDS has been backing the jihadist group, in retaliation for the ISI’s support to the networks of Islamist warlord Sirajuddin Haqqani, and the Afghan Taliban. In private, NDS officials admit they have staged bomb-for-bomb actions against attacks they attribute to the ISI, including one in March on Kabul’s prestigious Serena Hotel.

The question is simple: will India be able to deter Pakistani jihadists with similar tactics?

From the early 1980s, Khalistan terrorists began receiving weapons and arms from the ISI Directorate. Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi ordered retaliation. RAW set up two covert groups, known only as Counter Intelligence Team-X and Counter

Intelligence Team-J, the first targeting Pakistan in general and the second directed in particular at Khalistani groups. Each Khalistan terror attack targeting India’s cities was met with retaliatory attacks in Lahore or Karachi. “The role of our covert action capability in putting an end to the ISI’s interference in Punjab,” the former RAW officer B. Raman wrote in 2002, “by making such interference prohibitively costly is little known.”
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The problem is they also kept hands in others pockets and some times hand in glove as well
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Roperia wrote:India’s new language of killing - by Praveen Swami

Will Modi authorize offensive covert ops against elements inimical to India's interests?

The articles says our current NSA quashed this idea under MMS and told the agencies to keep their hands in their pockets. Some flare for words! :rotfl:

If PS has an iota of care for his country he won't publish tripe like this. Now if any fellow gets bumped off in TSP by the TTP or what not the needle of suspicion gets pointed in Indian direction.


I think fellows like this should just shut up or be shut upped.
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Ramana sir, as it is in shitistan even if a bird craps on the statue of kafir-e-azam it is attributed to 10000 indian consulates in Afghanistan. I doubt an araticle or two will make any difference to the situation. Even if we don't speak about it when the killing starts the people concerned will know who is doing what. That said PS comes across as a dumb moron who likes to show off his 'strategic thinking' skills at the wrong time and wrong place. there is nothing new in his article apart from what Baru's book reveals.
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Any news about what is behind violence in AP post elections. Where is the connection here with elections?!?!
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Careful if you use CISCO routers or switches :twisted:

NSA bugs exported US-made network equipment
The National Security Agency covertly installs back-door surveillance bugs into routers intended for foreign markets, according to the new book “No Place to Hide” penned by the journalist Glenn Greenwald.

Relying on previously unreleased and already disclosed documents, Greenwald, one of three recipients of the top-secret material on the NSA mass surveillance from the agency’s former contractor Edward Snowden, shows that since at least 2010 the NSA has intercepted routers, servers and other network equipment being shipped overseas. The agency then implanted interception tools in the devices that granted it unlimited access to networks and communications. NSA then rewrapped the packages and restored factory seals sending them onto their original destination.

The devices later connect back to the NSA. "In one recent case, after several months a beacon implanted through supply-chain interdiction called back to the NSA covert infrastructure. This call back provided us access to further exploit the device and survey the network," says a 2010 report by the head of the NSA's Access and Target Development department.

These latest NSA-related revelations are especially striking considering that the United States government has been on a prolonged campaign against routers manufactured in Chine. For years it has warned that Chinese network equipment is a threat.

For instance, the US claims ZTE and Huawei, the top two Chinese telecommunications equipment companies, install spy hardware into the devices that could compromise security of American networks. In a 2012 report, the House Intelligence Committee warned that Chinese firms cooperate with their government and assist it in surveillance.

"Based on available classified and unclassified information, Huawei and ZTE cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose a security threat to the United States and to our systems," the report states.

The committee also warned US network providers and system developers to seek other suppliers because equipment produced by the Chinese firms likely contains spyware. "Private-sector entities in the United States are strongly encouraged to consider the long-term security risks associated with doing business with either ZTE or Huawei for equipment or services. US network providers and systems developers are strongly encouraged to seek other vendors for their projects," the report said.

It should be mentioned that the committee "acknowledged that it had obtained no actual evidence that the firms had implanted their routers and other systems with surveillance devices," Greenwald point out.

Greenwald contends that it is indeed “quite possible” that Chinese companies are tampering with their products in order to install surveillance technology, but the US has been engaged in precisely the same activity.
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The US will end up paying an economic price for this I think.
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KrishnaK wrote:The US will end up paying an economic price for this I think.
They won't sir...they will just figure out another pseudo-economic route to push these into other countries...give it a German name or something...
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IS Ajit Doval getting to be the NSA??
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Secret unit army officer alleges harassment
An army officer, who was part of General VK Singh's controversial secret intelligence unit, has threatened to commit suicide, alongwith his teenage daughter, because of alleged harassment by current army chief, General Bikram Singh.

In an SMS to top army brass in New Delhi on Wednesday, Lieutenant Colonel AS Bariyawal said his plea for a posting on 'compassionate grounds' had been deliberately turned down over the past two years, driving him to think about taking the extreme measure.

Lt. Colonel Bariyawal, a military intelligence corps officer, is posted in Deolali, close to Nashik in Marashtra. He has won the President's gallantry medal (Sena Medal) for his operations in Northeast, when his unit rescued the wife of an Ulfa peacenik, held captive in Myanmar by the outfit in 2008. The officer was believed to have played a key role in facilitating the 2008 ceasefire of between the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) and the Centre. He was handpicked by General VK Singh for Technical Support Division (TSD), the secret intelligence unit.

In his message to army headquarters, Lt. Colonel Bariyawal has alleged that his plea on compassionate grounds has fallen on deaf ears in the Army headquarters because he worked with the TSD created by General Singh.
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Looks like Chinese Government is now targeting US Business Interest in China in retaliation to US Naming Chinese officials in Cyber Spying

China urges banks to remove IBM servers over espionage concerns – report
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He has won the President's gallantry medal (Sena Medal) for his operations in Northeast, when his unit rescued the wife of an Ulfa peacenik, held captive in Myanmar by the outfit in 2008.
So the TSD operated inside Myanmar too?

Am guessing this unit will be back in full force with new GoI backing ( maybe with a different name)
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ISI still desperate for sand samples of nuclear test area in Pokhran
Vimal Bhatia,TNN | May 12, 2014, 04.03 AM IST
JAISALMER: Sixteen years after India created history by becoming the sixth country to have tested nuclear bombs and joining the elite nuclear club on May 11, 1998, Pak intelligence agency, ISI, is making a lot of efforts to get a sample of the sand in Pokhran. The ISI even today, is reportedly trying to spy this area and get the sand samples of the area in Pokhran where the nuclear tests were conducted.

At the tail end of Pokaran field firing range, the spot where nuclear test was done, is under strict vigil and ISI has not been able to succeed in its efforts. The 3.5km long road is closely guarded and one has to pass four strictly guarded gates to get there. Even till today, the then director of United States' Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), George Tenent feels disappointed at not being able to get the hint of the nuclear test conducted by India in 1998.

According to an intelligence source, "ISI had launched its spies and agents whose objective was to take sand from this place. ISI wants to test the sand and analyze how the testing was done scientifically and technically. But due to the alertness of BSF jawans, their objective so far has not seen the light of the day."

Defence spokesperson SD Goswami said, "Guarding and protecting the defence land is the responsibility of the local military authority. As such, all defence land falls under restricted area zone where permission for civilian freedom of movement is strictly monitored and depends on case to case."

May 11 has been officially declared as the National Technology Day in India to commemorate the first of the five tests that were carried out on the 16th anniversary of Pokhran II. After the nuclear test done on May 11 and 13, 1988, the place is under strict Army vigil even today and no person can enter it for several kilometres without Army's permission.

Just 16 years ago, Buddha smiled at Pokaran area in Jaisalmer. In hind sight, 'Smiling Buddha' a (MEA designation: Pokhran-I) was the code name of India's first nuclear weapon explosion, which took place on May 18, 1974. As a sheer coincidence, after a long silence, on May 11, 1988 in the same Pokaran range, three nuclear explosions were done and that day, too, was Buddha Purnima.

It may be recalled that missile man and former president APJ Abdul Kalam, for the success of the series of nuclear tests, in a confidential manner stayed here for over two months under a pseudo name along with two scientist friends at Khetolai field firing range. For the implementation of these tests secretly, a chess table was laid and even America's chief intelligence agencies could not get a hint of the same.
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Ajit Kumar Doval appointed National Security Advisor
Ajit Kumar Doval, former Intelligence Bureau chief who was widely expected to be Prime Minister Narendra Modi's pick for National Security Advisor (NSA), has been formally appointed the NSA.

Doval, a 1968-batch, Kerala-cadre IPS officer, is director of the New Delhi-based think-tank Vivekananda International Foundation.

Doval who worked on Mizo conflict in the early years of his career later worked in the Indian mission in Pakistan from 1983 to 1987. He was one of the key negotiators during the hijacking of the Indian Airlines aircraft, IC-814, to Kandahar in 1999.
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Why ex-IB chief Ajit Doval is the best NSA India could ever get
Doval was the man who dared to sneak deep into Pakistan at the risk of his life and remained in that country incognito for years, delivering virtually real time intelligence on Pakistan’s Kahuta nuclear plant.
wow !
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Read the part inside the article
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A welcome nugget of news hidden inside this article.

Two weeks as PM: Narendra Modi comes across as a decisive leader who means business
It is a given that Modi's PMO is going to be a powerful one. After 20 years, the head of RAW has started to brief the PM again.
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^^^ It is unbelievable that the previous PMs of the country didn't want to be briefed by the external intelligence agency directly. Instead they outsourced the work to NSA. In contrast, the US president has a daily briefing by CIA director, first thing in the morning. The problem is, people with no acumen for governance and lacking in any kind of ruler-like qualities come to power in India.
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NSA would smoothen the inputs from RAW to make briefing more polished and politically acceptable.

It is always good to hear directly from IB & RAW chief regularly in order to avoid filtered down politically acceptable briefing.
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Another attack at Karachi airport complex, heavy firing reported
KARACHI: A security checkpost outside Pakistan's Karachi airport has been attacked by gunmen on Tuesday, an official spokesman told AFP, a day after an all-night siege at the airport left 37 dead.

"Gunmen are exchanging fire with Airport Security Force personnel at a checkpost guarding the airport," an ASF spokesman said.

According to GEO TV, all flight operations at the airport have been suspended.

Source : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 343148.cms
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‘Factor-8’ injections recovered at Karachi airport

these are used by indian army & are not available in open market ( something fishy is going on )

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/national/0 ... hi-airport
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I am invited for an event featuring advisor to US Presidents, Ashley Tellis of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington and Bibek Debroy, Professor at the Centre for Policy Research in Delhi. They are joint authors of a new book whose title will be the theme for the evening, Getting India Back on Track.

Joining them in what is bound to be an illuminating discussion are Surjit Bhalla and Rajiv Lall. That`s not all: the Chief Guest for the evening is Arun Shourie, who needs no introduction.

Are there any questions that you would like to put up?
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Please record the event and put it up on youtube if it isn't being done.
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IB report alleged ‘misconduct’ by NATGRID chief; UPA ignored, NDA ended tenure
An Intelligence Bureau report alleging “misconduct” by the former high-profile CEO of National Intelligence Grid (NATGRID) Raghu Raman was a key factor in the NDA government’s decision not to give him an extension beyond the end of his tenure on May 31.

Sources have confirmed to The Indian Express that the IB’s adverse report alleged personal and professional misconduct by Raman involving foreign nationals.

This report, sources said, was presented to the UPA government, too, which ignored it and cleared his appointment co-terminus with the project in April this year.

However, this report was then flagged to Home Minister Rajnath Singh when Raman’s term came up for extension. Singh decided against an extension.
When asked about the IB’s allegations, Raman told The Indian Express: “I am not aware of the report.”

One of the UPA’s biggest showpiece internal security projects, NATGRID was conceived in 2008 after the 26/11 attacks in Mumbai as an intelligence database that would have networked 21 sets of data sources to provide quick and secure access of information to about 10 intelligence and law-enforcement agencies. These data sources include records related to immigration entry and exit, banking and financial transactions.

Raman was appointed as CEO on December 1, 2009. He is a retired military officer who was working as CEO of Mahindra Defence Land System.

A source close to Raman said that “since he came from the private sector and was well networked with security agencies in Israel and Britain, an adverse impression would have been made against him. He had run-ins with the IB on various issues regarding the functioning of NATGRID as the intelligence agency always wanted it to be under their control.”
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hmmm he is the author of The Rope??
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India gears for combat exercises with US, to include Japan
NEW DELHI: India is gearing up for the next round of military exercises with the US, including the top-notch "Malabar" naval war games in the Pacific and the intensive "Yudh Abhyas" counter-terror drills in Uttarakhand, in the first such maneuvers after the Modi government came to power last month.

India will dispatch four warships, including Rajput-class destroyer INS Ranvijay, stealth frigate INS Shivalik, frigate, corvette INS Kuthar and fleet tanker INS Shakti, on a long-range overseas deployment later this month. "The warships will first head for the 'Indra' exercise with Russia off Vladivostok. They will then reach the North Pacific towards end-July for the Malabar exercise, which apart from India and US will include Japan this time," said an official.

India had invited Japan to participate in this year's Malabar war games, which have ruffled the feathers of a prickly China in the past, during Shinzo Abe's visit to New Delhi in January. Prime Minister Narendra Modi himself is very keen to further strengthen the strategic partnership with Japan, the second country he will visit after Bhutan. The chemistry is reciprocated by Abe, with Modi being one of the only three persons he follows on twitter.

Both India and Japan are wary of China's growing military might and increasing assertive behavior in the Asia Pacific. India, however, prefers to be seen as "neutral player" in the escalating power-play between the US, Japan and others on one side and China on the other in the region.

India has largely restricted the Malabar exercise to a bilateral one with the US after China protested against its 2007 edition in the Bay of Bengal since they were expanded to include the Australian, Japanese and Singaporean navies as well.

On the US front, though the flurry of joint combat exercises has slowed down a bit, Indian and American officials in the "initial planning conference" last week decided to hold the Yudh Abhyas exercise at Chaubatia (Uttarakhand) from September 17 to 30.

"The main thrust will be counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency in hilly terrain. There will be around 250 troops from each side, including Special Forces. The two armies usually hold two to three exercises every year but Yudh Abhyas will be the only one this year," said a source.

Yudh Abhyas, the last edition of which was held at Fort Bragg in the US in May last year, was to be held earlier but got delayed amid the diplomatic wrangling during the Devyani Khobragade episode.

India and the US have held over 70 exercises between their armed forces over the last decade, in what is one of the most evident symbols of their military cooperation. The US, of course, has also bagged Indian arms deals worth almost $10 billion, with the latest being the $1.01 billion one for six additional C-130J ``Super Hercules'' aircraft, as was first reported by TOI.

The other deals on the anvil are the ones for 22 Apache attack helicopters, 15 Chinook heavy-lift helicopters, four P-8I maritime patrol aircraft and 145 M-777 ultra-light howitzers, together worth another $4 billion or so.
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^^^^
SM is saying this juvenile is from peaceful minority only.
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OTOH govt is reveiwing the juvenile act and hope to make some changes.
This is irrespective of the present case but seemed to be related to the Delhi rape case.
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Looks like a very well staged hit..........the kid was being beaten up but he still had a knive in his hand? And when he escapes he stabs the DRDO man? Police incompetency?
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Avaram, Sad to hear of Avaram Shalom's passing. He got Eicchmann among other things.
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Kao’s memoirs — an insight into RAW roots , Reveal how India helped create Bangladesh, Unravel Delhi’s troubled relationship with US
Fresh insight into the roots of India’s external intelligence agency has been provided by the memoirs of its legendary founding head — Rameshwar Nath Kao — who served as a security adviser to Prime Ministers Jawaharlal Nehru and Indira Gandhi.

Until today, not much was known about Kao, except that he was passionate about Alsatian dogs, had an obsessive compulsive disorder and was admired by his counterparts in the West, who praised him for his quick mind and sartorial elegance. Before Kao died some 12 years ago, he dictated his memoirs to a devoted secretary, but left strict instructions that they were only to be released in stages — 10, 20 and 30 years — including how India helped create Bangladesh in 1971, how India took over Sikkim and detailed comments about New Delhi’s often troubled relationship with Washington.

Some of the interesting insights about how Kao helped build the agency, best known to Indians as the Research Analysis Wing (RAW), will not become available until 2032. For, the present researchers will have to be content with the two files that have become available for the public to examine.

Kao was known in his life time as one of the “char piyaras” of Indira Gandhi, along with PN Haksar (Principal Secretary), TN Kaul (Foreign Secretary) and RK Dhavan (Private Secretary). His files are listed alongside letters and documents from the private collection of Haksar.

So are documents linked to such exotic subjects as the Municipal Mazdoor Union, Bombay, 1957-86, the Pataudi State Praja Mandal and the Punjab Conspiracy Case Proceedings (1930-33). Kao reveals in his memoirs that he was born in the city of Benares in 1918 and was the son of a Deputy Collector, who died prematurely when he was only five years old.

The family then moved between Benares, Baroda and Mumbai until Kao was admitted to read law at Allahabad University in the late 1930s. He took the exam for the Indian Police Service in 1939 and was admitted to the Police Training College, Moradabad, in 1940 where he had his first close contact with white Britishers who appeared to him as semi-literate, crude, rough.”

Later in his memoirs, he comments on how in India “the British deliberately adopted a stance of racial superiority and arrogance, which was highly irritating and provoking.”

Eight years after Independence, Kao, by then a senior police officer, was asked by Nehru to investigate the sabotage of Air India’s ‘Kashmir Princess’, which was carrying a Chinese delegation from Hong Kong to Bandung Conference of the Non-Aligned countries in April 1955 when it crashed off the Indonesian coast, killing all eleven passengers, most of them Chinese. Only three members of the Indian crew survived.

The delegation was meant to include Chinese Premier Zhou EnLai, but it is said he got the wind of the plot and changed his travel plans at the last minute, travelling instead to Bandung via Rangoon.

In his lengthy investigations carried out at Nehru’s request, Kao spent months travelling between Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Hong Kong and China during which he had several one-to-one meetings with Zhou, including one that lasted for more than two hours.

He also reveals how he liaised with a team of three Chinese officials, including Hsiung Hsiang Hui, who later became China’s Chargé d'affaires in London during Cultural Revolution. Kao further discloses how he functioned as the link between the colonial government in Hong Kong – which was carrying out its own investigation into the aircraft’s sabotage – and the communist government in mainland China.

Kao recalls he was told by his Chinese Police colleagues that the bomb had been placed in the Kashmir Princess’ hold by a Taiwanese agent, Chou Chu, who was part of the ground maintenance crew of the Hong Kong Aircraft Engineering Company. He agreed to place a time bomb in the hold of the Kashmir Princess in exchange for the promise of a substantial reward of 6,00,000 Hong Kong dollars.

The security contacts that Kao established at the time with British and Chinese security officials – as well as others – were valuable to him 22 years later when he set up RAW.

From the spymaster’s diary
•8 years after Independence, Kao was asked by Nehru to investigate the sabotage of Air India’s ‘Kashmir Princess’, which crashed off the Indonesian coast, killing all 11 passengers
•He functioned as the link between the colonial government in Hong Kong and the communist government in mainland China
•The security contacts that Kao established at the time with British and Chinese security officials helped him set up RAW
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Guess Unkil has turned us upside down:
NSA used private firms to snoop on India
Some of the leaked slides identify New Delhi as a special collection site (SCS) where US assets are based to gather intelligence. The NSA also carries out part of its primary surveillance of foreign satellites from this site. New Delhi has been mentioned as one of the 84 cities worldwide that are part of the NSA’s ‘Global

Interception Network’. The spying is carried out using various methods, including intercepting undersea cables and satellite and telephone communications.

According to the documents, the NSA targets emails, chats, videos, stored data, video conferencing, online social networking and voice over internet protocols (VoIP). The NSA also lists India as one of the targets for its Computer Network Exploitation (CNE) programme by planting malicious software.
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^^^

Unkil is doing what any half reasonable country would do to protect its interests (Economic, Political, Military, etc).. They spy on the UK and Israel and the Israelis do the same back. Same for the French and German and China and Russia.

Fact is that we have repeatedly failed to understand and quantify the significance of doing the same to others AND protecting ourselves from others doing the same to us. Our R&D and Capex spend on data protection and encryption and on the CyberWarfare and offensive SIGNIT/ELINT capability is laughable and rudimentary.

Sadly, simply put redtap / bureaucracy will never be be able to compete with the Corporate Sector for our brightest minds. But there has to be a way. The Americans found a way so did the brits. (In Russia and China the best and brightest dont get a choice).
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