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matrimc, All that is bokwas. There are concept design studies paid for by the govt to which the companies bid. Then the best paper designs get funded o develop prototypes. Then the winner gets the approval and then develops a weapons platform which transforms a thoroughbred at prototype to a mule. Then they get more funds to bring back the thoroughbred performance.


Only time the companies spend own money, which is tax deductible, is prior to the concept design phase.
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using Microsoft, IBM, Google or Apple operating system for any govt or commercially important venture is a no-no.

ditto for Cisco or any other network equipment provider.

by the time India wakes up to this enormous threat, it will be too late.

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NSA reportedly intercepting laptops purchased online to install spy malware
According to a new report from Der Spiegel based on internal NSA documents, the signals intelligence agency's elite hacking unit (TAO) is able to conduct sophisticated wiretaps in ways that make Hollywood fantasy look more like reality. The report indicates that the NSA, in collaboration with the CIA and FBI, routinely and secretly intercepts shipping deliveries for laptops or other computer accessories in order to implant bugs before they reach their destinations. According to Der Spiegel, the NSA's TAO group is able to divert shipping deliveries to its own "secret workshops" in a method called interdiction, where agents load malware onto the electronics or install malicious hardware that can give US intelligence agencies remote access.

While the report does not indicate the scope of the program, or who the NSA is targeting with such wiretaps, it's a unique look at the agency's collaborative efforts with the broader intelligence community to gain hard access to communications equipment. One of the products the NSA appears to use to compromise target electronics is codenamed COTTONMOUTH, and has been available since 2009; it's a USB "hardware implant" that secretly provides the NSA with remote access to the compromised machine.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/29/5253 ... -plant-spy
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Wonder where those new Amazon flying bots would be making a stopover before delivering the laptops to consumers, anyways here's some more on home turf,

Centre to probe alleged hacking of BSNL network by Huawei
It is looking at inter-corporate rivalry between two Chinese telecom companies

In a major incident of national security breach, India’s top intelligence agencies and Department of Telecom is all set to jointly launch an investigation into the alleged role of Chinese telecom equipment giant Huawei in hacking into Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL)’s network and sabotaging its expansion plans in Rajahmundry in coastal Andhra Pradesh. Curiously, this is probably the first case where the Centre is also looking at inter-corporate rivalry between two Chinese telecom companies, the other being ZTE, which has bagged BSNL’s network expansion project including the one in Rajahmundry.

Following reports of Huawei engineers hacking a ‘base station controller’ (BSC), which controls several ‘base transceiver station’ (BTS) or mobile radio base station in an area, during network upgradation work at Rajahmundry in September/October this year, the National Security Council Secretariat (NSCS) in the Capital alerted the Department of Telecom, which in turn sought reply from the BSNL. Though the state-run telecom company conceded there has been a breach by Huawei, it failed to give a detailed account of damage done to the national security or the penal action taken against the Chinese firm.

Now, a five-member team comprising senior official from NSCS, Intelligence Bureau, Ministry of Home Affairs and BSNL will reach the core of the entire issue. “Several key questions have remained unanswered by the BSNL Andhra Pradesh circle…We will find out entire details about the hacking of BSC like failure of password management, change in database, accessibility of BSC from remote location and authorisation of commands to Huawei personnel. Considering the fact that all this has happened in a coastal city, and that too in a Naxal-affected State, a thorough probe might bring out more facts,” a senior official engaged in the probe told The Hindu.

What is more startling is the fact that the BSNL even failed to report the matter to police or intelligence sleuths in Andhra Pradesh even after finding out the gravity of the situation. It just reported the matter to the Huawei, says an internal communication between the NSCS and the DoT. Initially, the BSNL did not take the matter seriously. It was only after the DoT’s follow ups on the issue, the telecom PSU responded.

In its reply to the DoT, the BSNL said the Andhra Pradesh circle stated that the ‘BSC was relocated at Rajahmundry as a part of phase VII ZTE expansions and 10 numbers of BTS were re-homed on trial basis for confirmation of its satisfactory working before loading actual phase VII sites on it. All the BTS were reverted as soon as the problem (of hacking) was noticed and no live traffic was lost. The BSC was brought down by some (Huawei) company employee due to some inter-corporate rivalry. The problem was resolved when it was brought to the notice of M/s Huawei.”

“A notice was issued to M/s Huawei directing them to investigate the matter. In response to the notice, a national team from M/s Huawei visited Andhra Pradesh circle and assured that such incidents will not reoccur in future and they will take all possible measures to avoid such incidents…Such incident has not occurred after the assurance,” the BSNL response to the DoT said.
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No country allows foreign companies to get inside their tel network like this
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Isn't that a ambition too far fetched yet ?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 116663.cms
NEW DELHI: The prospect of terror organisations getting their hands on a nuclear device has long concerned both security agencies and thriller writers. Now, it seems Indian Mujahideen India chief Ahmad Zarar Siddibappa alias Yasin Bhatkal too was thinking along similar lines. Bhatkal recently told interrogators that he was planning to explode a nuclear bomb in Surat, according to sources.

Bhatkal was arrested on August 27 in Pokhra, Nepal and has been constantly questioned by the NIA, Intelligence Bureau and police of several states. TOI has accessed the interrogation report.

Bhatkal told the interrogators that he had asked his Pakistan-based boss, Riyaz Bhatkal, over phone whether the latter could arrange a small "nuclear bomb". According to him, Riyaz responded, "Anything can be arranged in Pakistan".

"Riyaz told me that attacks can be done with nuclear bombs. I requested him to look for one nuclear bomb for Surat," Yasin told the officials.

"Riyaz told me Muslims would also die in that (nuclear bomb blast), to which I said that we would paste posters in mosques asking every Muslim to quietly evacuate their families from the city," Yasin said, according to the report.

However, the plan could not be initiated since Yasin was tracked by the IB and arrested in August.



Surat has always been on Yasin's radar and he had also played an important role in preparing 27 bombs along with Atif Ameen in 2008 when serial blasts took place in Delhi, Jaipur and Ahmedabad.

Yasin himself was the bomb expert of Indian Mujahideen and the outfit's bomb-making capabilities have been affected after his arrest, say intelligence officials.

The IM leader has also given details of army level training of IM cadres and other terrorists in Pakistan, which shows that advanced training is given to terrorists with the help of Pakistan. Elaborating on training schedule for IM members in Pakistan, Yasin said, "Training included morning PT, weapon handling and explosive/IED training, pistols to revolvers, AK-47 etc. Indian weapons like LMG, SLR and sniper rifles and so forth".

Yasin further stated that "we were also exposed to handling of explosives like PE3A (black colour explosive), C4, C3, TNT, etc. Besides this, we were also exposed to fabrication of IEDs with the help of ammonium nitrate, hydrogen peroxide, gelatin stick and so forth. This training schedule was for 50 days".

For all the plans and active operations, Yasin remained in touch with Riyaz Bhatkal. Riyaz, according to sources, had sent Yasin Rs 17 lakh in 2013 out of which his personal expenses every month were Rs 25,000.

A senior intelligence official said, "We have been coming across different kinds of IEDs over the years. The reason is that terrorists are undergoing all kind of advanced army level training in Pakistan with the help of ISI. And if terror outfits have access to nuclear bombs, then it is very dangerous for us (India)".
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^^
It is not far fetched at all. If there is any country where it is easy to bring in a JDAM and explode it with plausible deniability without any fear of retaliation, it is India. We have porous borders, terror plots not getting serious attention but politically manipulated to vilify saffron terror, enough anti national like IM roaming around freely inside the country and getting protection from politicians like Nitish Kumar and internal security is basically a joke. India is the perfect target for a dirty nuke attack.
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Well the question is not only about the state of our nation. Although I will agree with you on that front to a great extent :oops:
Has the IM reached that maturity level where it has access to even a Dirty nuclear device and how far is the Paki establishment ready to back them up ?
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I'm channeling Clancy's "Sum of All Fears" here :oops: but doesn't every weapons grade nuke material have it's own "signature"? You can pinpoint the antecedents/source of the nuke with that here?
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^^ Even if it is pinpointed and has a hand-written note attached by TSPA Chief and DG, ISI, am sure 400% that we will not move a muscle against TSP and will do the usual noises for public sake and then resort to dossier-giri.

Similar to how we did diddly-squat against our Kabul embassy attack though it was a virtual ISI sign-off with them not even bothering to hide their prints
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MMS will issue a statement saying TSP is as much a victim of terrorism as India. Then he will send a dossier with proposal to conduct a indo-paki combined study on how to keep nuclear material safe away from the hands of terrorists, especially saffron terrorists in India.
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I would like our babudom to think as to what would be India's reaction if Pakistani state sponsored terrorists, viz. LeT or IM, detonate a dirty nuclear bomb on Indian soil.

To me the strategy looks like - Pakis won't do that as that would invite international community's wrath.

That may be true but west's perfidy and Pakistan's stupidity shouldn't be underestimated.

IMO, any such act should be followed by immediate nuking of Pindi.
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Won't Indian Intelligence community hear the chatter if a dirty nuke is being smuggled into India. It can't surely be as easy as picking up your briefcase and take a walk across the border.
Secondly are briefcase nukes even possible ?
Would Terrorists have not tried chemical and biological weapon by now if it was as easy as it sounds.
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Apple built back door for NSA into its products

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-3 ... opout-jeep

Following up on the latest stunning revelations released yesterday by German Spiegel which exposed the spy agency's 50 page catalog of "backdoor penetration techniques", today during a speech given by Jacob Applebaum (@ioerror) at the 30th Chaos Communication Congress, a new bombshell emerged: specifically the complete and detailed description of how the NSA bugs, remotely, your iPhone. The way the NSA accomplishes this is using software known as Dropout Jeep, which it describes as follows: "DROPOUT JEEP is a software implant for the Apple iPhone that utilizes modular mission applications to provide specific SIGINT functionality. This functionality includes the ability to remotely push/pull files from the device. SMS retrieval, contact list retrieval, voicemail, geolocation, hot mic, camera capture, cell tower location, etc. Command, control and data exfiltration can occur over SMS messaging or a GPRS data connection. All communications with the implant will be covert and encrypted."

The flowchart of how the NSA makes your iPhone its iPhone is presented below:

NSA ROC operator
Load specified module
Send data request
iPhone accepts request
Retrieves required SIGINT data
Encrypt and send exfil data
Rinse repeat
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Sorry, if posted earlier.


NIA set to drop case against Sadhvi Pragya, others arrested by MP Police

Nearly six years after the murder of RSS pracharak Sunil Joshi, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) has concluded that the Madhya Pradesh Police arrested the wrong people, including Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur. Joshi, an accused in the 2006 Malegaon blasts and the Samjhauta and Ajmer blasts in 2007, was found dead in Dewas on December 29, 2007.

According to the NIA probe, Joshi was killed by Lokesh Sharma and Rajender Pehalwan, both accused in the Samjhauta blasts case, for allegedly misbehaving with Thakur. The duo were reportedly helped by Dilip Jagtap and Jitender Sharma. All the four have been arrested. Sharma, a BJP youth wing leader, was arrested from Mhow recently, after which the NIA claimed the probe had been completed.

NIA sources said the group also feared that Joshi may expose their alleged involvement in bomb blast cases. Lokesh Sharma and Rajender Pehalwan are also reported to have had a financial dispute with Joshi.

The sources said the agency is seeking the home ministry's sanction to prosecute the four accused, after which a chargesheet will be filed. The agency is also examining the CFSL report on the murder weapon.

The agency then plans to approach the MP special court seeking to drop the charges against Pragya Singh Thakur, Harshad Solanki, Vasudev Parmar, Anand Raj Kataria and BJP councillor Ramcharan Patel, who were booked under IPC Sections 302 (murder), 120 (B) (criminal conspiracy) and 201 (destruction of evidence) by the MP Police.

While Thakur, an accused in the 2008 Malegaon blasts case, is currently in jail, Parmar, Kataria and Patel have been released on bail. Solanki is also still in jail for his alleged role in other crimes. The MP Police, in its chargesheet filed in 2011, had claimed that Joshi was shot by Harshad Solanki. It had said that Joshi was killed because Solanki and the others had started regarding him as a threat.
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Waah waah, after 6 years of non stop tor.. err brain mapping.
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johneeG wrote:
chinna wrote:Agree that developing a new OS from scratch is not a very practical idea for several reasons, even though it does offer some security advantages. If DRDO requires a real time OS for missiles, etc., they can build one on top of existing open source Linux based distributions. I do remember DRDO attempting to develop a real-time kernal for whatever reasons as early as late nineties! It was done by modifying existing Linux / BSD distributions.

Also the best and brightest engineers in India don't work for government or government associated organizations including C-DOT. Developing a OS from scratch and keeping it updated is a daunting task that calls for the involvement of the best and brightest engineers for a long period of time. Government should stop wasting tax payers money with ill advised projects.
Lets say the Govt does attempt such a project and 'wastes tax payers money'. How much money will be 'wasted' according to your estimate? Basically, what is the cost benefit analysis? Skills developed, tech developed, security, independence, ...etc vs cost.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kern ... _redevelop.
The cost itself isn't much really. It's the time required and the resources to develop, test and maintain it. And it doesn't end with the OS. While everybody is talking about the OS, what about something like Java ? Or umpteen other libraries and language runtime environments that goes into a a modern OS.

There is no independence to be had by re-doing the whole thing. It would be far better for the government to sponsor an Indian version of Redhat. That company would maintain a version of the Linux kernel + application layer software that is strictly audited. New features from the mainline get backported continuously. Said company to have a captive market in the form of the Indian government to being with. Force all major vendors from Oracle, IBM and SAP to certify their applications on the Indian version to be able to apply for government contracts. That will allow this entity to maintain it's own ABI and offer an alternative and be viable economically.
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Karan M wrote:Waah waah, after 6 years of non stop tor.. err brain mapping.
peculiarly, our constitution-abiding patriots somehow never manage to question or wonder how such a pristine constitution of such noble intentions could allow a woman to get tortured and broken for 6 years and finally released. and all this without any compensation or collateral by the State for its wrongful imprisonment and gross human-rights abuse. Isn't Sadhvi Pragya owed a formal apology by the highest judicial appointee of the Government of India for the abuse and pain she was put through?
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Exactly my thought. Are there no consequences for anyone in the govt or investigative agencies for torturing someone and sullying reputations? Where are we, in China?
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devesh wrote:
Karan M wrote:Waah waah, after 6 years of non stop tor.. err brain mapping.
peculiarly, our constitution-abiding patriots somehow never manage to question or wonder how such a pristine constitution of such noble intentions could allow a woman to get tortured and broken for 6 years and finally released. and all this without any compensation or collateral by the State for its wrongful imprisonment and gross human-rights abuse. Isn't Sadhvi Pragya owed a formal apology by the highest judicial appointee of the Government of India for the abuse and pain she was put through?
Apology, compensation and a government job as per established norms applied to "minorities wrongfully arrested"
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Just read Amar Bhushan's book on Rabinder Singh's defection:

It appears that people knew that he was an agent, but they could not find who his handler was. Unless they knew about his handler, there was no way to punish/arrest him.

And why couldn't we find his handler? He was making a digital copy of his documents, and transferring them electronically. We were assuming that he was going to physically hand over the documents to his agents. In other words, we were not paying attention to what he was doing with his computer.

How did he manage to escape to Nepal? He left his house around midnight in a taxi, and our watchers (who were located at a safe distance) did not realize that he was leaving his house. That was the moment we lost him.

Also, we had only a few bugs in his house, and we did not know all conversations happening there.

By the way, it is claimed that he is living as a refugee in Florida. Karma is a ... :)
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link
In the early 1980s, the son of then RAW chief N. Narasimhan left the U.S. after efforts were made to approach the spy chief through him. Narasimhan's son had been denied a visa extension, and was offered its renewal in return for his cooperation with the U.S.' intelligence services. "Not all," says a senior RAW officer, "would respond with such probity."
Now, that is GOOD stuff. :)
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abhishek_sharma wrote:It appears that people knew that he was an agent, but they could not find who his handler was. Unless they knew about his handler, there was no way to punish/arrest him.
by the time he was ready to flee, it was obvious even to folks here reading newspaper reports that he was an agent.

so he surely would have been watched 24x7.

either he is a double agent or the intelligence agencies are totally incompetent.
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Perhaps he knew of some corruption within the agency. They probably let him go.
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>> it was obvious even to folks here reading newspaper reports that he was an agent.

We had evidence that he was copying classified stuff. We had no evidence that he was passing it to foreigners. He could have claimed that he was taking those documents for personal study. This is standard practice, many senior R&AW officials take classified stuff to their homes. That is why he could not be arrested. (This is what Amar Bhushan claims in his book.)
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Two more points:

1. R&AW did "informally" alert IB to not allow the suspect to leave India. However, he managed to cross Indo-Nepal border. I guess we can deduce that IB has a weak presence along the Nepal border.

2. It was clear that the suspect was living a very rich life. But we could not find out how he was getting that kind of money. Either people did not pay attention to his bank accounts (that is unlikely), or he found a creative way of getting his baksheesh.
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RAW informing IB is a bit rich as IB has no arrest powers and needs local police to arrest the accused. They should have informed IB and DP.
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It was implied that IB could stop him from leaving the country from the airports. The suspect had already left Delhi and RAW's watchers did not see him leaving his house.

Since they had no water-tight case against him, they could not "formally" ask IB/police. So they merely asked one of their friends in IB to help.

Also, the Principal Secretary (in PMO, who was that guy?) wanted to stop the investigation because it could have hurt India-US strategic ties. sahi hai...:)

After the suspect left, RAW's agents in Nepal filed a first-rate report which had full information on how the US helped him get a new passport and facilitated his escape. One wonders why these skills were not used in stopping him from leaving Nepal. Maybe, we were plain unlucky.
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If anyone have links for free ebooks on R&AW and foreign relations pls post them.
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Critical sectors get cyber attack protection
“Many of us felt that NTRO, being an intelligence agency with little oversight should not be heading such a project. But the counter argument was that it had better sensors than what the Ministry of Communications and IT and CERT-IN had to detect such cyber-attacks,” a senior minister, who did not wish to be named, told HT while confirming the CCS decision.

In the first phase, the NTRO will look at seven sectors including telecommunications, oil and gas, Air Traffic Control, power grids and nuclear installations, and railways. “As capacities are built up more sectors will be added to this list,” a senior NTRO official told HT on the condition of anonymity.
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quote="Philip"]Business as usual!
The US retreating from Afghanistan,leaving the country in an absolute shambles,wants India to force Karzai into toeing the Yanqiui line.Has the US never listened to India regarding Pakistan and its war of terror against India? Unfortunately the quislings in the PMO in this shameful govt. prefer to take their cue from Uncle Sam.One reason why we toook such a surprising tough stand against the US was the fact that Snake-oil found that his great "love" had betrayed him.knowing that he was destined for the garbage dump,abandoned him with alacrity and had transferred its affection to a new chick on the block,one Kejriwal!

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/i ... 575348.ece
Intelligence meet breaks India-US diplomatic ice
Joint Intelligence Council chief meets delegation from U.S. Director of National Intelligence’s office for talks focussed on Afghanistan

Indian and United States intelligence services began a three-day meeting on Monday, the first high-level dialogue between the two countries since the crisis sparked off by the arrest of Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade in December. Led by Joint Intelligence Council chief Ajit Lal, an Indian delegation met officials from the office of the Director of National Intelligence for the latest in a series of discussions on regional security and strategic issues.

“The latest round of the dialogue is focussed on events in Afghanistan leading up to the United States drawdown in 2014,” a highly-placed Indian government source told The Hindu. “The United States is extremely concerned at Afghan President Hamid Karzai’s delay on signing a security agreement, and hopes India will be willing to use its influence to persuade him to do so.”

Peter Lavoy, Assistant Secretary of Defence for Asian and Pacific Security Affairs, had visited New Delhi last month for scheduled discussions on the situation in Afghanistan, following President Karzai’s visit to New Delhi. However, key defence, intelligence and diplomatic officials declined to meet Dr. Lavoy following Ms. Khobragade’s controversial arrest in New York.

Last week, two senior U.S. officials, Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz and Assistant Secretary of State Nisha Desai Biswal postponed their visits to New Delhi.

External Affairs Ministry sources in New Delhi declined to comment on the JIC-DNI meeting, saying they could not comment on intelligence issues.

Eleven rounds of dialogue have been held between the DNI and the JIC, with the two organisations meeting each June in Washington, D.C., and in New Delhi in January. No details were immediately available on the composition of the United States’ delegation.

“It is important for India that the intelligence dialogues continue, irrespective of problems that will from time to time crop up in the relationship with the United States,” former Intelligence Bureau chief Ajit Doval told The Hindu. “Both countries have vital interests which need to be discussed at the highest level.”

Founded in 1998, :?: :lol: the JIC is mandated to provide the government with big-picture assessments of strategic issues. Its secretariat, which reports to the Cabinet Secretariat, produces papers and strategy documents based on analysis of information from the Research and Analysis Wing, the Intelligence Bureau, and the directorates of military, naval and air intelligence.

Keywords: Indian-U.S intelligence services meeting, Devyani Khobragade issue, Joint Intelligence Council chief, Ajit Lal, Director of National Intelligence
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:lol: Because JIC was in effect from 1968 when IG constituted it as part of Intel reforms.
Under Gujral et al JIC had no head. And KRC reforms required the JIC to be headed by a secy level IAS officer.
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Shashi Tharoor's affair with Pak journalist: Sunanda says she wants divorce
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His purported tweets, however, caused his wife to react to them with tweets of her own. In one of them, she said the Pakistani journalist was “stalking” her husband.

“I completely stand by my tweets, I 100 per cent stand by that,” Sunanda Tharoor later told The Indian Express. “That woman pursued and pursued him…men are stupid anyways…for all you know she is a Pakistani agent. Where’s love, where’s loyalty in this world…I am so distraught.”
Sunanda Tharoor said she felt “destroyed as a wife and a woman” over her husband’s “rip-roaring affair” with the Pakistani journalist which she claimed had been going on since April last year.
Sunanda Tharoor also claimed there have been a series of Blackberry Messenger exchanges between her husband and the Pakistani journalist in which, among other things, the possibilities of his divorce with her have also been discussed.

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Disturbing. This is the modus operandi of the oldest way of intel gathering.
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Nikhil T wrote:Shashi Tharoor's affair with Pak journalist: Sunanda says she wants divorce
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His purported tweets, however, caused his wife to react to them with tweets of her own. In one of them, she said the Pakistani journalist was “stalking” her husband.

“I completely stand by my tweets, I 100 per cent stand by that,” Sunanda Tharoor later told The Indian Express. “That woman pursued and pursued him…men are stupid anyways…for all you know she is a Pakistani agent. Where’s love, where’s loyalty in this world…I am so distraught.”
Sunanda Tharoor said she felt “destroyed as a wife and a woman” over her husband’s “rip-roaring affair” with the Pakistani journalist which she claimed had been going on since April last year.
Sunanda Tharoor also claimed there have been a series of Blackberry Messenger exchanges between her husband and the Pakistani journalist in which, among other things, the possibilities of his divorce with her have also been discussed.

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Disturbing. This is the modus operandi of the oldest way of intel gathering.
Capt. Amrinder Singh the CM of punjab had a pakistan girlfriend and she was roaming around the whole punjab freely taking photos all over sensitive border areas.
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^^^
These dumb chaps will always have their heads placed downwards :-o
Meanwhile some things that still remain hidden :
1. Who put those tweets out on the web ?
2. How long has this chapter been in the writing, will be able to deduce the damage done if any ?
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gauravsh wrote:^^^
These dumb chaps will always have their heads placed downwards :-o
Meanwhile some things that still remain hidden :
1. Who put those tweets out on the web ?
2. How long has this chapter been in the writing, will be able to deduce the damage done if any ?
I am wondering if Sunanda Tharoor fallout is related to SSwamy leaking info about Sunanda Tharoor's children being compromised in Middle East? Probably ST decided to "disown" that branch, hence a rebound allegation of Pak journalist?
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Disturbing. This is the modus operandi of the oldest way of intel gathering.

Not to worry. Shashi Tharoor has no intelligence!
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Hahahahahaha. Brilliant!
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ST was known to be unable to keep his pants on even when he was in the UN.
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Looks like its all smoke on the ISI agent and the hacked account stuff.
This is more funnier than i had thought :lol:
http://www.france24.com/en/20140116-ang ... r-twitter/
The furious wife of the Indian government's top-tweeting minister admitted Thursday she had hacked his account to send out messages exposing an alleged affair he was having with a Pakistani journalist.

The scandal was splashed on the front pages of several newspapers after a curious series of messages appeared on the Twitter account of the suave thrice-married human resources minister Shashi Tharoor on Wednesday evening.

They showed private exchanges apparently between 57-year-old Tharoor and Pakistani journalist Mehr Tarar, 45, in which she professed her love for him and he said his wife had discovered his adultery.

Sunanda Tharoor, a formerly Dubai-based entrepreneur whom the minister married in 2010, confessed to sending the messages and also dragged up a corruption scandal that nearly wrecked her husband's career.

"That woman pursued and pursued him... men are stupid anyway... for all you know she is a Pakistani agent. Where's love, where's loyalty in this world?... I am so distraught," she was quoted as saying in the Indian Express.

Tharoor (@shashitharoor) posted a message late Wednesday to his two million followers claiming his account had been "hacked" while Tarar (@mehrtarar) denied having an affair with him in a series of messages.

"Our accounts have not been hacked and I have been sending out these tweets," Sunanda told the Economic Times, while also referring to a cricket scandal in 2010 shortly after her husband entered politics.

The French-speaking former UN diplomat had to resign from his first ministerial post in 2010 after revelations that then-girlfriend Sunanda had been given a free stake in a new Indian Premier League (IPL) cricket team.

Opposition parties said the stake, reportedly worth up to 15 million dollars, was for Tharoor's behind-the-scenes services in putting together a consortium that bought the Kochi franchise, based in his home state of Kerala.

"I took upon myself the crimes of this man during IPL. I will not allow this to be done to me," Sunanda told the Economic Times.

Tharoor, a father of two adult sons from his first marriage, resigned saying that his conscience was clear, telling parliament he had done "nothing improper or unethical let alone illegal".

Calls by AFP to his offices and home seeking comment on Thursday were not returned. A source in his parliamentary office in New Delhi said he was unwell and not working.

The politician, author and talented public speaker, who was once in the running to be secretary general of the United Nations, is the most active user of Twitter in the government and he has been instrumental in encouraging colleagues.

But it has damaged him on at least three occasions since he quit his three-decade career in the UN and entered Indian politics in 2008.

The allegations about corruption in the IPL were first exposed on the platform by the competition's top administrator Lalit Modi and in 2009 Tharoor had to apologise after making a joke about "holy cows" in the cabinet.

He also once landed in hot water for criticising his government's visa policy.

Sunanda told the Indian Express that she would be seeking a divorce, but then appeared to have relented on Thursday, writing on her Twitter account (@sptvrock) that "Shashi an& I are very happy together".
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just a while back, there was a discussion on whether India should create its own OS.

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Watch out, Google, Apple and Microsoft: ‘China Operating System’ is coming for you

http://news.yahoo.com/watch-google-appl ... 04154.html

Unhappy with the dominance of foreign mobile and desktop operating systems in its country, the Chinese government it backing a China Operating System (COS) that is supposed to take on Google, Apple and Microsoft in the region. Shanghai Laintong is the company developing COS in partnership with the Institute of Software at the Chinese Academy of Sciences (ISCAS), Engadget reports. Interestingly, it’s HTC that’s actually providing hardware for the COS platform, at least for now.

As for the operating system itself, COS is based on Linux and it’s said to be developed “entirely independently,” as China wants it to be a viable alternative to what’s available from foreign companies. During the COS launch, the ISCAS head criticized iOS for being a closed system, Android for its fragmentation problem, and Android and Windows for their poor security.
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