Intelligence and National Security Discussion

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby pushkar.bhat » 30 Jul 2014 14:14

@Satya Shaanta Gada dhari Bhim Shaanta. Rajnath Singh is no Mukhota.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby govardhanks » 30 Jul 2014 15:38

Found nice article on Terrorism Finance:
http://www.idsa.in/jds/8_3_2014_TerrorismFinance.html

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby JE Menon » 30 Jul 2014 22:16

http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/swis ... erala.html

"Swiss" man held for engaging with Maoists in Kerala. Very interesting story.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby Neshant » 31 Jul 2014 13:17

India is one of the biggest targets of the NSA.

Practically all American IT companies are spying for the US govt and building backdoors into their products for the NSA. Hell Apple even has backdoors in its Ipad & Iphones for NSA to transmit data back to the mothership.
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New Report Shows Edward Snowden's Revelations Are Seriously Damaging U.S. Tech Firms

By Eugene Kim | Business Insider

The nonprofit New America Foundation released a new report this week that summarizes the impact of Edward Snowden’s NSA revelation on U.S. tech firms.

Within weeks of the first NSA revelation last year, companies like Dropbox and Amazon Web Services reported immediate drops in their sales, the report said. Citing a previous report, it said the NSA’s PRISM program could cost cloud-computing companies from $22 billion to $180 billion over the next there years.

“This erosion in trust threatens to do the most immediate damage to the cloud computing industry, which would lose billions of dollars in the next three to five years as a result,” it said.

In particular, U.S. tech firms are being severely hit in overseas markets, the report said. Companies such as Cisco, Qualcomm, IBM, Microsoft, and HP have all reported declines in sales in China following the NSA revelations. In fact, according to The Wall Street Journal, Cisco said it’s expecting roughly a 10% loss in quarterly revenue because of the "Snowden effect." A web-hosting company called Servint reportedly lost more than half of its overseas clients following the revelation.

American firms are also losing the trust of foreign governments because of this. The German government said it would end its contract with Verizon last month, while Brazil picked Swedish firm Saab over Boeing for a deal to replace its fighter jets, according to the report. It said more and more foreign competitors are benefiting from the perceived image of being “NSA-proof” or “safer” than U.S. firms.

As a result, countries like Germany, Brazil, and India are close to enacting a new law that would require companies to use local data centers. For example, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, after refusing to visit the U.S. for months after the NSA disclosures, has called for data localization laws. Brazil and India are proposing IT companies to either set up or keep their data centers within local boundaries, while Greece, Brunei, and Vietnam are following suit with similar measures, the report said.

All of this could slow the growth of the U.S. tech industry by as much as 4% and seriously undermine America’s credibility around the world, the report concluded.

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/repor ... 22539.html

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby ramana » 31 Jul 2014 21:35

Oxymoron article.

Is it Snowden's revelations or the original concpet of building backdoors to allow US govt to monitor the devices with or without warrant claiming secuirty concerns?

If not Snowden it would have been some other and eventually the targets would have realised that they are being snooped.
So moron report.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby JayS » 01 Aug 2014 01:34

I guess this issue of building backdoors in hardware as well as software is nothing new to the world. I don't think anybody at the government or intelligence agency’s level would have surprised by Snowden. Perhaps the scale was surprising but the means, definitely not. For ex read this one from 2006:

http://news.cnet.com/FBI-taps-cell-phone-mic-as-eavesdropping-tool/2100-1029_3-6140191.html

Nextel and Samsung handsets and the Motorola Razr are especially vulnerable to software downloads that activate their microphones, said James Atkinson, a counter-surveillance consultant who has worked closely with government agencies. "They can be remotely accessed and made to transmit room audio all the time," he said. "You can do that without having physical access to the phone."

Because modern handsets are miniature computers, downloaded software could modify the usual interface that always displays when a call is in progress. The spyware could then place a call to the FBI and activate the microphone--all without the owner knowing it happened.


This use of technology antedated 2006. I remember to have read this news atleast 5-6 years ago. BTW Isn't the fear of installing of backdoors in hardware components for snooping is one main reason that US and even Indian government had held Chinese companies from supplying electronic equipment for crucial telecom infrastructure of the nations, which is strategically critical??

I have had a thought of this above quoted news item when I first time read about new phones/tablets coming up with battery screwed to the phone so that one cannot remove it easily. One more example, Amazon can do anything with any Kindle remotely. they can copy data, wipe it out etc. Even the camera could be used to spy for any phone, its completely plausible. So, Snowden was not all that climactic, as one would have made to believe.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby rkhanna » 05 Aug 2014 12:52

CIA agents had "penetrated deep into every sphere of decision and policy making of the UPA regime

http://www.samachar.com/US-exerted-pressure-on-Manmohan-on-choice-of-ministers-Natwar-Singh-oifiMofhhbh.html

Quiet a pattern .. Indira Ghandi was in the Pocket of the KGB so this time around its the CIA.

http://mitrokhinarchiveii.blogspot.be/

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby sum » 08 Aug 2014 09:49

^^ Another honeytrap:
Army officer lured into honey trap confesses to passing secrets

Subedar Naik Patan Kumar, the Junior Commissioned Officer in the artillery regiment who was arrested on Wednesday in Hyderabad for alleged espionage, has reportedly confessed to his crime.

Poddar, who was arrested following an alert by the intelligence agencies, has admitted that he was passing crucial information to a girl named Anushka Agarwal since 2013.

The JCO, who was posted at 151 MC/MF detachments at Secunderabad, said he had come in contact with the girl through social networking site Facebook and developed an intimate contact via e-mail and phone.

Police believes that Anushka Agarwal was a fake name and that either the woman was a Pakistani or was being used by Pakistan’s intelligence agency Inter Services Intelligence to lure Poddar and gather information from him.

Investigation has revealed that Anushka’s Facebook page was created from Jaipur, Rajasthan.

In his confession statement, Poddar, who hails from West Bengal, said that Anushka wanted him to work for her father’s voluntary organization and was paid Rs 74,000 in 7 instalments.

But police claimed that she deposited Rs 10 lakh into his account and that Rs 3 lakh had been seized from Poddar’s account.

The police have also seized his computer, laptop and pen drive.

Police say the lady had said some nude photos to Poddar to enamour him; he was so carried away that used to call her “Nargis”.

Poddar confessed that he passed on information about 96 field regiments and ten medium regiments.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby Sachin » 09 Aug 2014 17:43

I am yet to find a rank Subedar Naik in the Indian Army. Should be either a Nk. or Nb.Sub. If there are nude photos of this chap, won't they have met at least? Or was the JCO Saheb such a dumbo to take it himself and send across by e-mail?

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby Rahul M » 09 Aug 2014 18:53

the 'lady' sent nude photos. atrocious copy editing from rediff.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby rsingh » 09 Aug 2014 20:32

http://mitrokhinarchiveii.blogspot.be/

It seems that this blog was written by CIA guy. I mean all this time KGB did all the bad thing in India and CIA was not there? So KGB created Punjab problem and there was nobody else. Why KGB was creating Punjab problem......to what end?

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby Rien » 10 Aug 2014 08:38

ramana wrote:Oxymoron article.

Is it Snowden's revelations or the original concpet of building backdoors to allow US govt to monitor the devices with or without warrant claiming secuirty concerns?

If not Snowden it would have been some other and eventually the targets would have realised that they are being snooped.
So moron report.


Even when targets realise they are being spied upoun, if they don't take corrective action they are as helpless as before.
The Chinese and Brazilian governments have taken substantive action. China has banned the iPhone/iDevices, and Brazil has started building its own fiber optics connections and stopped using Gmail.

GoI needs to start doing the same. Only allow open source hardware/software for routers(Ban Cisco, Ban MS). We're already doing something that is very half assed, but just do it 100% like the other BRICS have done. The problem isn't our rules and regulations, just enforce it 100% against any US/EU or Western friendly vendor. Desi vendors only for software or hardware. Even if Tata Sons is spying on GoI, that simply isn't much of a problem. But the CIA IS a huge problem.

Russia only allows Android phones. So if Bharat comes up with its own policy based on what the others have done that is effective:

1.) Only permit hardware/software that is Open Source, with all code provided and code compiled by Indics. That way we know the source code and the stuff running on the hardware is 100% in agreement.

2.) Use strong encryption standards. That means no NSA approved standards/US standards. Something like Serpent or other vetted standard.

3.) Desi vendors only. No Dell. Indian vendors can make everything here, why would we give Dell and Cisco a chance to put in backdoors for?

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby brar_w » 10 Aug 2014 09:40

China has not banned apple products from government procurement. They have issued a clarification on that matter. Non open source systems can be easy assessed as secure if the nation makes it a priority. In the past nations have asked common system providers to provide source. Microsoft has complied with some nations if I recall correctly. The reasons governments around the world do this is because the cost-burden is huge if one wishes to move away from a system that is commonly used by the wider public and in the governmental setup. If a company does not accommodate reasonable requests only then is a en masse shift warranted. Open source systems have their own problems - the enemy has a very deep understanding on how to operate them, hack them and use them. Many times more malware attacks happen on open source mobile software than on OEM specific software.

China refutes claim of government ban on Apple purchases

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby Austin » 10 Aug 2014 12:01

China has recently banned IBM , MS and CISCO and also foreign auditor from State Auditing but these ban applies to Government Project to avoid spying

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-2 ... bm-servers

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby Rien » 10 Aug 2014 14:10

Thanks for backing me up on that Austin. Also, it turns out GoI has already mandated the policy I was asking for. It's not open source but the policy restricts to Desi suppliers only.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/ind ... 375499.ece

The US Government has objected to India’s plans of making it compulsory for Government agencies to source electronic products, including personal computers, printers and tablets, from domestic manufacturers.


Too bad for the US but this is exactly equivalent to the USA's "Buy American" provisions and is allowed under WTO rules.
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Bharat should push for moving away from US software as well. So 1:1 substitutions of
[list=]
Windows Linux
Microsoft Office LibreOffice
Skype Pidgin
[/list]

Replicant and an Indian designed ARM SOC would provide a Made in India smartphone. Micromax is the company that can do this for us.The building blocks are all there and working well, they just need to be put together. Too bad for the US/NSA. Desi hardware + OS breaks the NSA's ability to spy.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby brar_w » 10 Aug 2014 18:21

Thanks for backing me up on that Austin.


He hasn't backed you up on the point where you were clearly misinformed. China has clarified on apple. With regards to other companies, its a decision which was clearly thought out and those are the things i am advocating. Microsoft sales are not banned to government agencies, just the sales of MS Windows 8 is in question -

"We have been and will continue to provide Windows 7 to government customers. At the same time we are working on the Window 8 evaluation with relevant government agencies," Microsoft said.

Neither the government nor Xinhua elaborated on how the ban supported the use of energy-saving products or how it ensured security.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/ ... 7Q20140520

Software is different on many elements. Open source software has the entire source code for one to evaluate. For OEM software a request could be made to the company through which the source code can be obtained. Microsoft provides windows source code upon request to Russia for example. Similarly its not rocket science to figure out the code by yourself, Chinese and US jail breakers do this every year with a new IOS version for example.

Which SOC does micromax use for its phones?

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby KrishnaK » 11 Aug 2014 03:52

Major parts of linux is sponsored by American companies. Rien talks nonsense as usual. There should definitely be an effort made to move towards local capability in OS/hardware/computing/security for government and public needs. That will require the capability to be built up first. I believe that is already in progress. It will also have to be calibrated with demand to make that effort commercially viable. Who cares what Brazil is about to do ?

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby TSJones » 11 Aug 2014 04:14

There is no way you can stop network spying. None. If your system is hooked to the internet in any possible way and you have sensitive information stored on it, I can assure you it is gone and out in the wild blue yonder. End of story. Got a remote vendor access to your system? Do you even know if your system has remote vendor access? Can key personnel access email while on your system? If anyone of these things can happen, and that is just a small sampling, then your system is wide open. That is why on seriously secure systems there are NO network connections of any kind. They don't even have raised flooring in their computer rooms because they want to be able to visual inspect all the wiring. Any data has to leave the room via sneaker net (shoes only).

Addendum: you probably have a Faraday cage around it too.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby rkhanna » 11 Aug 2014 09:05

http://mitrokhinarchiveii.blogspot.be/

It seems that this blog was written by CIA guy. I mean all this time KGB did all the bad thing in India and CIA was not there? So KGB created Punjab problem and there was nobody else. Why KGB was creating Punjab problem......to what end?


The Mitrokhin Archive is not a blog. The Mitrokhin Archive is a collection of handwritten notes made secretly by KGB Major Vasili Mitrokhin during his thirty years as a KGB archivist in the foreign intelligence service and the First Chief Directorate. When he defected to the United Kingdom in 1992 he brought the archive with him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitrokhin_Archive

The Notes are now published and can be bought via Amazon, etc.


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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby Neshant » 12 Aug 2014 09:35

Rien wrote:Micromax is the company that can do this for us.


I thought micromax simply imports phones made in China and sticks their label on it - in a manner of speaking. Perhaps a new case is thrown around the phone to give the illusion of an indigenously developed product.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby Sachin » 12 Aug 2014 10:50

Neshant wrote:I thought micromax simply imports phones made in China and sticks their label on it - in a manner of speaking.

+1. I owned a Micromax phone nearly 2 years back (mainly because it had a 2-SIM provision). The OS was distinctively chinese. The icons, the bugs and the generally clumsy way of operations all indicated this. I don't think Micromax has any thing original other than being "Original Chinese".

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby SagarAg » 12 Aug 2014 23:57

Austin wrote:China has recently banned IBM , MS and CISCO and also foreign auditor from State Auditing but these ban applies to Government Project to avoid spying

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-2 ... bm-servers

Its really remarkable how China openly bans every other US company and still manage to have every other product in US made in China. Gotta adopt this policy ASAP. :mrgreen:

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby brar_w » 13 Aug 2014 02:46

Its widely considered a retaliation to this among other things. US isn't going to ban its own companies for choosing to produce in china that is a logical destination for such production of electronics. Once you go down this path there is really no coming back and that is extremely bad for business and the overall global economy. There will be some low key (relatively) back and forth due to the NSA and Chinese hacking fallout but that will be it.

http://thediplomat.com/2014/05/in-cyber ... ibm-cisco/

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby rkhanna » 13 Aug 2014 09:33

Its really remarkable how China openly bans every other US company and still manage to have every other product in US made in China. Gotta adopt this policy ASAP. :mrgreen:


India is a more expensive manufacturing destination and couple that with Legal hassles, activism, etc its less of a Hassle to produce in China.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby Austin » 13 Aug 2014 09:43

SagarAg wrote:Its really remarkable how China openly bans every other US company and still manage to have every other product in US made in China. Gotta adopt this policy ASAP. :mrgreen:


Chinese ban them from Government use it does not apply to private sector use , We can also do something similar. MNC cant move out of China because that would affect their bottom line.

And according to WB latest data China GDP is close to US GDP on PPP basis.

http://databank.worldbank.org/data/download/GDP_PPP.pdf

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby Sachin » 13 Aug 2014 10:06

This government seems to be serious in rolling out a full-fledged testing lab for telecommunication equipment. It is to be setup at I.I.Sc Bangalore.
Testing of telecom equipment in India mandatory from next year
Pilot lab to test telecom equipment

From the below old reports looks like the previous government had some ideas, but it never got rolled out on the ground.
‘No one thought telecom equipment testing lab will take time after proof of concept’
2 yrs after IISc tested telecom equipment, govt yet to set up lab

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby chilarai » 13 Aug 2014 12:07

Sachin wrote:This government seems to be serious in rolling out a full-fledged testing lab for telecommunication equipment. It is to be setup at I.I.Sc Bangalore.
Testing of telecom equipment in India mandatory from next year
Pilot lab to test telecom equipment

From the below old reports looks like the previous government had some ideas, but it never got rolled out on the ground.
‘No one thought telecom equipment testing lab will take time after proof of concept’
2 yrs after IISc tested telecom equipment, govt yet to set up lab



If i remember correctly, the lab at IISc was supposed to come up with collaboration with either ZTE or Huawei. This probably also has to do with India becoming a common criteria certificate issuing country from this year. India govt will mandate that all security testing be conducted in India. So these chinese manufacturers have a big incentive to set up a lab in india so that products get certified fast.
If anyone is interested in security evaluations , this year , as is the norm , the newly accepted country hosts the common criteria conference , so this year its in delhi in september . http://www.15icccindia.com/ (was hoping my company would send me so that i get a free ticket to home .. but didnt happen :( )

added later :
managed to dig up the reference
http://articles.economictimes.indiatime ... se-vendors

It was Huawei who wanted to set up security lab at IISc.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby Austin » 16 Aug 2014 09:21

Rabinder Singh 'money-trapped' by CIA for Iraq WMD info says book

A recently released book authored a former R&AW official has alleged that the CIA used its mole inside India's external intelligence agency to try and get information on Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs).

Rabinder Singh, a retired army officer and joint secretary posted in R&AW headquarters, was compromised by the CIA sometime in the 1990s. In May 2004, Rabinder and his wife fled to the US with his wife via Nepal where they currently live under assumed identities.

'The CIA through R&AW wanted to have corroborative evidence from R&AW so that they could get an independent and unbiased intelligence assessment about Iraq, which would strengthen their case for world opinion in attacking Iraq for possession of WMD. Rabinder Singh on his part tried to get such reports from his connections in R&AW," RK Yadav, a former officer in the external intelligence agency, writes in "Mission R&AW". The book was formally launched in New Delhi on July 17 by former external affairs minister Natwar Singh.

Yadav quotes the findings of an internal investigation by R&AW to state that Rabinder's recruitment as a mole by the CIA had to do with the US spy agency's need for intelligence in the run-up to the March 2003 invasion on Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

'Operation Iraqi Freedom' was preceded by a year-long campaign where the US built up world opinion that Saddam Hussain's alleged development of nuclear and biological weapons and proximity to Al Qaeda made him a threat to the US. This was around the time, Yadav says, Rabinder Singh was on a 'spying spree' inside R&AW headquarters and worked for unspecified amounts of money which his handlers paid him.

Singh, Yadav writes, got several top secret files from SK Gupta, head of the agency's Science and Technology desk, photocopied them and sent them to the CIA.

R&AW's S&T desk set up by former DRDO scientist K Santhanam in the 1970s, had detected the Kahuta nuclear plant in Pakistan in 1978. Yadav however adds he has no corroborative evidence to prove that these reports were used by the CIA to build up their specious case for the invasion of Iraq.

Rabinder Singh's recruitment as a CIA mole also had to do with the US agency's failure of the CIA to detect India's 1998 Pokharan nuclear tests. The CIA, heavily reliant on technical intelligence for picking up signs of activity at test sites, then declared its intent to 'recruit agents in every field and department of the Indian government'.

During his stint at the head of the agency's South-East Asia division, Rabinder continued to seek information from other departments within the agency. This conduct aroused the suspicions of at least one mid-ranking official within the organization, S Chandrasekhar, who alerted the agency's counter-intelligence wing in January 2004. Rabinder was placed under intensive surveillance by the CIW for nearly four months.

Yadav's book alleges Rabinder Singh successfully escaped because certain senior officials in the agency and government were complicit in his getaway. The NDA government asked then R&AW chief CD Sahay not to arrest Rabinder Singh because they feared an adverse impact on the Lok Sabha elections, held between April 20 and May 10, 2004. Alerted by the surveillance, Rabinder and his wife Parminder slipped away to Nepal. Here, the couple were given new passports that showed them to be US citizens 'Rajpal Prasad Sharma' and 'Deepa Kumar Sharma' in Nepal as they boarded a flight from Kathmandu to Washington on May 5, 2004

The Rabinder Singh case was the most grevious penetration of the R&AW in recent years. Earlier, a senior R&AW official KV Unnikrishnan, the agency's station chief in Chennai was honey-trapped by the CIA in 1987.

Rabinder Singh was declared a proclaimed offender in 2009 but his case remains in cold storage because of his disappearance.

In November 2005, a senior R&AW official completed an internal inquiry into the damage caused to the agency by Rabinder Singh's penetration. The report which is believed to name a number of senior agency officials, was never made public.

In April 2009, Yadav filed a Public Interest Litigation seeking details about 57 R&AW officials who allegedly supplied information to Rabinder Singh and sought criminal action against 19 of them believed to have been indicted by the internal report. The PIL was dismissed by the courts on grounds of lack of proof.

Former R&AW official B Raman compared Rabinder Singh's defection to the 1994 Aldrich Ames case. Ames, a CIA official in the counter-intelligence analysis group was uncovered as a KGB mole. With one very important difference. Ames is currently imprisoned with no hope of parole. Rabinder Singh, lives in the US as a free man.


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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby kmkraoind » 16 Aug 2014 11:19

Just a noob question. Why cannot India releases photo and possible disguises of Rabinder Singh to Internet. I bet it will spread like fire and somebody could recognize him in US. If we cannot bring him back, at least it will spoil his social life.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby RoyG » 16 Aug 2014 12:06

kmkraoind wrote:Just a noob question. Why cannot India releases photo and possible disguises of Rabinder Singh to Internet. I bet it will spread like fire and somebody could recognize him in US. If we cannot bring him back, at least it will spoil his social life.


I think IB and RAW have better things to do.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby Nikhil T » 18 Aug 2014 22:58

Delhi men held for posing as IB, military officers

Very shady. These weren't imposters looking to just gain a free entry into the temple, they were super prepared with the military flag on their vehicle & a fake military ID.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby kmkraoind » 20 Aug 2014 09:15

Ajit Doval-Modi nexus checkmates Pak moves

Posting in full. At last we have Krishnadevaraya-Thimmarasu combo at top.


New Delhi, Aug 19 (TruthDive): Ajit Doval, the National Security Advisor got a call on his hotline in the morning. The caller was Narendra Modi. He asked him whether the separatists invited by Pakistan High Commission were sure to attend.

Ajit Doval said IB men tracking the invitees were indeed in the capital and nothing is likely to change as a red carpet has been rolled out. After a pause, Ajit Doval told Modi that Pakistan is sending a signal that Hurriyat is officially recognized and India ignoring it and going ahead with diplomatic talks will weaken his various operations coordinated by RAW-MI and IB. The caller put down the phone.

He called Arun Jaitley, Rajnath Singh and Sushma in that order. A note was circulated to cabinet ministers calling off the talks with Pakistan. Modi then called Ajit Doval and told him that the meeting between Shah the Hurriyat leader and Pak envoy Basit should be ‘monitored’. He wanted to know the topic on which he has to publicly declare a decision through the External Affairs ministry. The minute Shah stepped out of Pakistan High Commission, a transcript of the conversation reached PM’s desk. :D The contents made the PM’s face grim. A curt call went to MEA office and the announcement that talks were off was given to media by spokesperson Syed.

Foreign secretary Sujatha Singh had earlier in the day told Basit that talks with Hurriyat should be called off but she never realized that the talks would be called off. This is the first time that a foreign policy is discussed with the National Security Advisor.

Ajit Doval had given a dossier on the Pakistan non-state actors working on Jihad plans in Kashmir. This prompted Modi to tell in his visit to Kashmir that Pakistan should stop the proxy war. Ajit Doval had said that UPA had ignored such meetings with Hurriyat and gone ahead with diplomacy, leaving the intelligence agencies red-faced.

Ajit Doval made it sure that Pak PM who attended Modi’s swearing-in ceremony did not meet any Kashmir separatists. This hit the morale of separatists in the valley and that helped Ajit Doval’s Mission Jihad.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby chetak » 20 Aug 2014 09:55

kmkraoind wrote:Ajit Doval-Modi nexus checkmates Pak moves

Posting in full. At last we have Krishnadevaraya-Thimmarasu combo at top.





New Delhi, Aug 19 (TruthDive): Ajit Doval, the National Security Advisor got a call on his hotline in the morning. The caller was Narendra Modi. He asked him whether the separatists invited by Pakistan High Commission were sure to attend.

Ajit Doval said IB men tracking the invitees were indeed in the capital and nothing is likely to change as a red carpet has been rolled out. After a pause, Ajit Doval told Modi that Pakistan is sending a signal that Hurriyat is officially recognized and India ignoring it and going ahead with diplomatic talks will weaken his various operations coordinated by RAW-MI and IB. The caller put down the phone.

He called Arun Jaitley, Rajnath Singh and Sushma in that order. A note was circulated to cabinet ministers calling off the talks with Pakistan. Modi then called Ajit Doval and told him that the meeting between Shah the Hurriyat leader and Pak envoy Basit should be ‘monitored’. He wanted to know the topic on which he has to publicly declare a decision through the External Affairs ministry. The minute Shah stepped out of Pakistan High Commission, a transcript of the conversation reached PM’s desk. :D The contents made the PM’s face grim. A curt call went to MEA office and the announcement that talks were off was given to media by spokesperson Syed.

Foreign secretary Sujatha Singh had earlier in the day told Basit that talks with Hurriyat should be called off but she never realized that the talks would be called off. This is the first time that a foreign policy is discussed with the National Security Advisor.

Ajit Doval had given a dossier on the Pakistan non-state actors working on Jihad plans in Kashmir. This prompted Modi to tell in his visit to Kashmir that Pakistan should stop the proxy war. Ajit Doval had said that UPA had ignored such meetings with Hurriyat and gone ahead with diplomacy, leaving the intelligence agencies red-faced.

Ajit Doval made it sure that Pak PM who attended Modi’s swearing-in ceremony did not meet any Kashmir separatists. This hit the morale of separatists in the valley and that helped Ajit Doval’s Mission Jihad.


No offense, sirjee but.... :)

Nobody will put out such details in the press.

The article is faked

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby sum » 20 Aug 2014 09:59

^^ If this is what is happening in "open source", one can imagine the covert ops and other pinprick moves being planned in background...5 saal ke andar bahut maaza aayega.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby sum » 20 Aug 2014 10:02

The minute Shah stepped out of Pakistan High Commission, a transcript of the conversation reached PM’s desk.

Hurri-rats themselves are the sources?

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby kmkraoind » 20 Aug 2014 10:43

chetak wrote:No offense, sirjee but.... :)

Nobody will put out such details in the press.

The article is faked


Who knows, they might have leaked it deliberately to show their capabilities, intent and outcomes if any such nasty things happens in future. May be you are right also.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby Neshant » 25 Aug 2014 04:01

Too much NSA spyware has been packed into IBM, Apple and Microsoft products.
Including Cisco routers, gateways and HP servers..etc.
Even Americans don't trust these companies with their data.

Will India be launching its own OS - perhaps a Linux derivative?

Its utterly astonishing that foreign companies are involved in India's national ID program with zero regard for information security.
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China creating its own operating system to take on likes of Microsoft, Google

SHANGHAI (Reuters) - China could have a new homegrown operating system by October to take on imported rivals such as Microsoft Corp, Google Inc and Apple Inc, Xinhua news agency said on Sunday.

Computer technology became an area of tension between China and the United States after a number of run-ins over cyber security. China is now looking to help its domestic industry catch up with imported systems such as Microsoft's Windows and Google's mobile operating system Android.

The operating system would first appear on desktop devices and later extend to smartphone and other mobile devices, Xinhua said, citing Ni Guangnan who heads an official OS development alliance established in March.

Ni's comments were originally reported by the People's Post and Telecommunications News, an official trade paper run by the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT).

"We hope to launch a Chinese-made desktop operating system by October supporting app stores," Ni told the trade paper. Some Chinese OS already existed, but there was a large gap between China's technology and that of developed countries, he added.

He said he hoped domestically built software would be able to replace desktop operating systems within one to two years and mobile operating systems within three to five years.

In May, China banned government use of Windows 8, Microsoft's latest operating system, a blow to the U.S. technology firm's business which raised fears China was moving to protect domestic firms. Microsoft is also under investigation for anti-trust violations.

In March last year, China said that Google had too much control over China's smartphone industry via its Android mobile operating system and has discriminated against some local firms.

Mutual suspicions between China and the United States over hacking have escalated over the past year following revelations by Edward Snowden that U.S. intelligence planted "backdoor" surveillance tools on U.S.-made hardware.

The U.S. Justice Department, meanwhile, indicted five Chinese military officers in May on counts of extensive industrial espionage.

Ni said the ban on Windows 8 was a big opportunity for the Chinese sector to push forward its own systems, but that the industry needed further development and investment.

"Creating an environment that allows us to contend with Google, Apple and Microsoft - that is the key to success," he added.

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby sum » 25 Aug 2014 11:28

From Broadsword:
Is India’s nuclear command network ready?

Awards presented by Prime Minister Narendra Modi to two DRDO project teams on Aug 20th in the category of “Strategic Contribution” suggest rapid evolution in the command and control networks for India’s nuclear arsenal.

(a) A team led by U Jeya Santhi was awarded for “design, development, erection and commissioning of Strategic Command and Control infrastructure comprising a secured, multi-layered, Strategic Communication Network and specialised… hardened structures.”

(b) A team led by K Ravi Sankar, was awarded for developing “Security Solutions for Strategic Communication Networks for securing sensitive data… high-speed point-to-point links which incorporate indigenous high grade encryption algorithms.”

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Re: Intelligence and National Security Discussion

Postby wig » 25 Aug 2014 12:02

considering the proximity this could be for use here-a software FinFisher costing euro 3 lac purchased by Pakistan
Someone inside Pakistan purchased an estimated 300,000-euro toolset of highly controversial surveillance software, and digital human rights activists are concerned about the serious threats this poses to the security and privacy of users operating in local cyberspace.
FinSpy is used to remotely control and access online users who “change location, use encrypted and anonymous communication channels and reside in foreign countries”. FinUSB is used to infect USB devices, so whoever uses them becomes a target of surveillance, while the FinIntrusion Kit makes it possible to hack into hotel, airport, and other Wi-Fi networks to record traffic, extract usernames and passwords (even for encrypted sessions), and capture data like webmail, video portals, online banking and more.


http://www.dawn.com/news/1127405/custom ... n-pakistan


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