Indian Forces Strikes Pakistan Terrorist Camps

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Postby Karthik S » 27 Feb 2019 12:41

Philip wrote:Latest reports, the F-16 shot down by our ground fire after dropping a few bombs.


Link please.

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Postby pankajs » 27 Feb 2019 12:42

Folks need to wait for the fogs of action to clear ... rest are just rumors. India does not hide it losses and we will know at the end of the day.

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Postby arshyam » 27 Feb 2019 12:42

http://www.wionews.com/india-news/2-pil ... mir-199992

The video in the article shows this clearly to be a Mi-17 helicopter and not a MIG fighter. The tail boom shows the letter 'Z', which is the designation used by the IAF on its helis. Mi-17s are marked as ZP-xxxx.
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Postby abhijitm » 27 Feb 2019 12:43

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abhijitm wrote:mig and mi 17 crashed in j&k on the same day is something fishy. I expect gov to frankly acknowledge if they are shot. It would give more reason to punish pak. But for now i will take word of my gov.


^^ There is "No Mig Crash"

news channels are reporting a mig trainer crashed. bldy ddm. so much of confusion

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Postby Singha » 27 Feb 2019 12:43

habal wrote:
Paul wrote:Why are SAMs not used in such situations? Is it cuz they have not been deployed


Saar, I think to use a SAM safely one has to shut down all civilian air traffic. Else they just go and hit the next biggest target/heat signature.


yes, civilian a/c do not have IFF to tell SAMs to skip. you could end up with the ukraine thing of a BUK hitting a commercial jet. to my limited knowledge there is no real busy transit airlane over J&K but there is over Punjab Rajasthan and any given time lots of jets overfly india without landing from fast east to gulf and europe.

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Postby ricky_v » 27 Feb 2019 12:43

ani's handle looks like a reliable place for information, flight operations suspended at amritsar, mha meeting on-going.

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Postby Suraj » 27 Feb 2019 12:43

abhijitm wrote:
Sid wrote:
^^ There is "No Mig Crash"

news channels are reporting a mig trainer crashed. bldy ddm. so much of confusion

Then stop adding to it here .

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Postby abhijitm » 27 Feb 2019 12:44

m@chod indian news channels. reporting any bldy thing without verification. turned my stomach.

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Postby Anant » 27 Feb 2019 12:44

Between kargil and this, i hate the mi-17. Junk helicopter. Rip.

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Postby Prem Kumar » 27 Feb 2019 12:44

BBC is repeating DG_ISPR's lie. We will know soon enough if they will have egg on their faces.

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Postby abhijitm » 27 Feb 2019 12:44

Suraj wrote:
abhijitm wrote:news channels are reporting a mig trainer crashed. bldy ddm. so much of confusion

Then stop adding to it here .

apologies. wasn't my intention.

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Postby putnanja » 27 Feb 2019 12:45

Man, trust the stupid oafs to provide comic relief even in tense situations ... :rotfl:

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Am hearing Pakistanis have shot down their own F-16. No Indian jet shot, no pilot captured.

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Postby syam » 27 Feb 2019 12:45

Please don't do breaking news sort of thing. Many people are watching this thread. We better confirm the news and post it.

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Postby Singha » 27 Feb 2019 12:45

IBNLIVE has gone live with the f16 shot down story. NDTV not yet so

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Postby Singha » 27 Feb 2019 12:46

Anant wrote:Between kargil and this, i hate the mi-17. Junk helicopter. Rip.


it is very reliable and proven bird all over world.
here we dont yet know what is the cause.

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Postby Dilbu » 27 Feb 2019 12:47

Why the eff can't these channels wait for a minute before reporting whatever the hell they think has happened. Idiots.

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Postby Samar » 27 Feb 2019 12:47

Republic TV also reporting that a Paki F-16 was shot down over Lam valley

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Postby abhijitm » 27 Feb 2019 12:49

times now is calling out fake mig crash news. It was a picture from 2016 mig crash.

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Postby ricky_v » 27 Feb 2019 12:49

paki: lahore, multan,faisalabad,sialkot, islo domestic, international flights suspended.-ani
international flights from paki airspace returning;seeking alternate routes.
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Postby pankajs » 27 Feb 2019 12:50

Singha wrote:
habal wrote:
Saar, I think to use a SAM safely one has to shut down all civilian air traffic. Else they just go and hit the next biggest target/heat signature.


yes, civilian a/c do not have IFF to tell SAMs to skip. you could end up with the ukraine thing of a BUK hitting a commercial jet. to my limited knowledge there is no real busy transit airlane over J&K but there is over Punjab Rajasthan and any given time lots of jets overfly india without landing from fast east to gulf and europe.

Also, me thinks without any background knowledge but general gup-shup on the forum, that SAMs don't cover every inch of the border. More over being short range, unless they are deployed in overlapping circles of coverage all along the LOC there will be gaps.

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Postby yensoy » 27 Feb 2019 12:51

Why would a Mig cross the LoC at a time like this? Even if the plane is headed towards Pak and gets shot down, the pilot would probably land on our side. The paki story stinks.

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Postby khan » 27 Feb 2019 12:52

Dilbu wrote:Why the eff can't these channels wait for a minute before reporting whatever the hell they think has happened. Idiots.


I have been in leadership positions during fast moving crisis (at a much small scale obviously) - trust me on this, right now PR is the LAST thing CCS/MOD is thinking about.

They will spend the next few hours coming up with a strategy and depending on that strategy they will decide what to say and what not to say.

So, it will likely take a few hours before anything *offical* comes out and that is a *good* thing.
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Postby Kakarat » 27 Feb 2019 12:52

IAF must have taken out someone big in yesterdays strike, that is why TSP is doing all this today

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Postby khan » 27 Feb 2019 12:53

yensoy wrote:Why would a Mig cross the LoC at a time like this? Even if the plane is headed towards Pak and gets shot down, the pilot would probably land on our side. The paki story stinks.

I don’t think a MiG-21 was in the air anywhere near the border. These are ancient weapons of last resort, there are more than enough front-long fighters to deal with the Pakistanis.

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Postby Sridhar K » 27 Feb 2019 12:54

Mi17 crash is near Srinagar and far from LoC. No way they were shot by F16 that intruded near LoC.

There are photos in Twitter that Rohitvats tweeted of smoke trail of missile near budgam crash site, which is fishy. Friendly fire or manpad from Jehadis or BVR kill from far off (impossible)? Need to wait

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Postby ricky_v » 27 Feb 2019 12:54

Besides their air sovirginity you mean?

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Postby Bhaskar_T » 27 Feb 2019 12:55

If Mi-17 crashed in our territory and none of our Migs have crashed, then which Indian pilot has been arrested by Pakistani's?

PS - TOI running ribbon says Paki pilot arrested and handed over to police.

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Postby ricky_v » 27 Feb 2019 12:56

Not only our media, rt, iranian press tv are all swallowing the ispr's line of a/c downing and pilot capture.

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Postby pankajs » 27 Feb 2019 12:56

Kakarat wrote:IAF must have taken out someone big in yesterdays strike, that is why TSP is doing all this today

The *trainers* rumored to be around 25-35 would have been TSPA/ISI regulars plus a lot of trained material was lost.

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Postby pankajs » 27 Feb 2019 12:57

ricky_v wrote:Not only our media, rt, iranian press tv are all swallowing the ispr's line of a/c downing and pilot capture.

Will be corrected by the end of the day. No worries.

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Postby tushar_m » 27 Feb 2019 12:58

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The fog of war. Contrary to reports thus far, all IAF pilots accounted for say some sources to me. A Pak F-16 has been lost on their side. Was it a case of friendly fire ? What happened to those pilots?

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Postby khan » 27 Feb 2019 12:59

If the Pakistanis really have a pilot in custody - they will have his name, rank and and serial number.

Has any of that been released?

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Postby habal » 27 Feb 2019 13:00

why the hell will MiG 21s be used in kashmere ?

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Postby Suraj » 27 Feb 2019 13:01

khan wrote:If the Pakistanis really have a pilot in custody - they will have his name, rank and and serial number.

Has any of that been released?

Please stop such speculative leading questions. They are not helpful to the thread .

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Postby Paul » 27 Feb 2019 13:02

Pakis may have activated a sleeper cell to taken down MI17v5 with Stinger. Possibly a warning shot across our bow to tell us they have more such assets.

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Postby Aditya_V » 27 Feb 2019 13:03

Lets wait to see why the Mi 17 crashed, Helicopter crashes do happen, IAF saying all pilots accounted for so DG ISPR continuing from yesterday is telling lies.

F-16 shoot down if confirmed is great news.

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Postby Gus » 27 Feb 2019 13:04

please only post vetted / cross verified news.

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Postby abhijitm » 27 Feb 2019 13:06

Gen. Bakshi is making very good point on times now about letting military do the briefings on military matters and not civilians like how foreign secretary did yesterday.

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Postby pankajs » 27 Feb 2019 13:06

pankajs wrote:
Kakarat wrote:IAF must have taken out someone big in yesterdays strike, that is why TSP is doing all this today

The *trainers* rumored to be around 25-35 would have been TSPA/ISI regulars plus a lot of trained material was lost.

The biggest factor was the complete chaddi utaro.
1. The air strike was deemed too escalator between two nuke powers solidified by years of inaction. Completely demolished yesterdin. Air power was used and NO nuke *red lines* where triggered. That mental barrier has been broken and the bakis are enraged. There is no way to restore that except by throwing a nuke punch.
2. IAF went *deep* and returned unscathed! What if it has taken a detour to another target? What other target could it have hit yesterdin? The Aircraft is of the kind that is tasked to carry nuke. What if instead of regular bombs it has nuke payload and had chosen a different target? See how that plays on the baki minds?

Understandable.

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Re: Indian Forces Strikes Pakistan Terrorist Camps

Postby Sid » 27 Feb 2019 13:06

Folks, we are in undeclared local war. Maybe content needs to be moderated a bit more, as lot of folks are turning to this page for authentic information.

Facts -
1. PAF intruded in Naushera sector.
2. IAF intercepted a flight of 3 F-16s.
3. F-16s drops their payload on 4 locations, status unknown.
4. Mi-17 crashes near Budgam, 2+1 crew martyred, 1 civilian killed. Crash cause unknown.
5. Airspace closed in both North India, and Pakistan. Full scale military operations in progress.

Unconfirmed -
1. 1 F-16 shot down, and fell on Porki side.


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