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Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Feb 2019 11:35

the sophisticated and light nature of the structure and material points more to a late model f16 than a old mig21 airframe imho. however only ground crew, cutaway experts and OEM could say for sure.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 28 Feb 2019 11:35

ranneel wrote:
saip wrote:A lone Pakistani Erieye is up. It is flying south over Balochistan.
Looks like moving to Quetta.

singha ji, cheers !

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Feb 2019 11:35

"we all shall serve"

Bharadwaj · Post by **Bharadwaj** » 28 Feb 2019 11:36

The pigs were dumb enough to post photos their slaughtered solah yesterday claiming it was an Iaf bird. The IAF has caught this and the agencies now reporting. Sorry unable to resize.

http://twitter.com/ANI

Indrajit · Post by **Indrajit** » 28 Feb 2019 11:36

Engine exhaust.

Shivaji · Post by **Shivaji** » 28 Feb 2019 11:38

Singha wrote: "we all shall serve"

Har Har Mahadev...

Thakur_B · Post by **Thakur_B** » 28 Feb 2019 11:38

Dear Mods,

Once the action starts, can we have three dedicated thread for air theatre, naval theatre and ground theatre? Keeping updates on the one single discussion thread was mind numbing.

Regards.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 28 Feb 2019 11:39

A new thread is coming. No more discussions in here. Only news please.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 28 Feb 2019 11:39

Singha wrote: "we all shall serve"

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 28 Feb 2019 11:40

Balakot pigs camp as identified by Shiv.

sudeepj · Post by **sudeepj** » 28 Feb 2019 11:45

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1100995296052441088

Looks like the ANI picture is part of the engine cladding. F16 down confirmed!

la.khan · Post by **la.khan** » 28 Feb 2019 11:48

Thakur_B wrote:Dear Mods,

Once the action starts, can we have three dedicated thread for air theatre, naval theatre and ground theatre? Keeping updates on the one single discussion thread was mind numbing.

Regards.

That would mean we have to check multiple threads to get the latest news/action

Also, more work for mods too as they have to shepherd the flock to keep sheep in line

I prefer to see all updates in one thread. JMHO

Shivaji · Post by **Shivaji** » 28 Feb 2019 11:49

Times now suggesting that Pakis linking release of Wing Commander Abhinandan with dialogue.

https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1100999191424262144

Thick skull of these does not understand how the game has changed. So predictable these low-lifes are.

arshyam · Post by **arshyam** » 28 Feb 2019 11:50

Singha wrote: "we all shall serve"

Damn!

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 28 Feb 2019 12:00

Looks like a an F-16 engine.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Feb 2019 12:07

R25 tumansky engine

it does not have the sophisticated thin chicklet type structure of the mighty GE engine

beauty is their senior general is there in the pic - so cannot wriggle out of this pic.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Feb 2019 12:08

it also explains the 3 parachutes being reported (2 seater F16 block52D)
but even the 1 seater has same engine.

with the engine casing broken in this state, any plane would crash in flames

bharathp · Post by **bharathp** » 28 Feb 2019 12:10

Pak's f-16 use PW engines
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... PW-100.JPG

even that has similar cladding..

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Feb 2019 12:11

Mort Walker wrote:Looks like a an F-16 engine.

imo its the part of engine thats surrounded by the yellow clamp things ... there would be a inner structure combustion chamber inside it or a series of high pressure compressor stages.

this part being blasted out points to a SAM exploding in the tailpipe.

bharathp · Post by **bharathp** » 28 Feb 2019 12:13

Singha wrote:
Mort Walker wrote:Looks like a an F-16 engine.

imo its the part of engine thats surrounded by the yellow clamp things ... there would be a inner structure combustion chamber inside it or a series of high pressure compressor stages.

this part being blasted out points to a SAM exploding in the tailpipe.

thats not the engine used by Pak f-16s.. its PW engines..

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Feb 2019 12:14

Smile boys, you are on paki camera.

Khalid khi @khalid_pk 22h22 hours ago

THE VERIFIED details of Indian Pilot, Wing Commander Abhi, captured alive by Pak forces after today's successful air combat

kvraghav · Post by **kvraghav** » 28 Feb 2019 12:21

They cannot hide a F-16 loss. US would have the data before Pakis.

Bharadwaj · Post by **Bharadwaj** » 28 Feb 2019 12:22

The pratt has the same fluted metal section in the center. The r25 very clearly does not.

naruto · Post by **naruto** » 28 Feb 2019 12:24

A video footage, has the imagery of the still photograph too of nozzle fairing/engine cladding (?).
It is definitely not Mig-21, so I guess it is the Paki F16.

https://twitter.com/MdShafiKhatana/stat ... 0864004096

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 28 Feb 2019 12:24

kvraghav wrote:They cannot hide a F-16 loss. US would have the data before Pakis.

How? It'll really piss off LM that a bison shot it's tfta viper and sunk its mrca chances.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 28 Feb 2019 12:26

bharathp wrote:Pak's f-16 use PW engines
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... PW-100.JPG

even that has similar cladding..

Initial production used PW F100. Later versions used GE F110 for increased thrust.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 28 Feb 2019 12:26

That does not look like Mig-21 engine for sure , The size of that cladding looks big enough to be something like F-16 engine.

The picture analysis from ANI is reportedly done by IAF

kvraghav · Post by **kvraghav** » 28 Feb 2019 12:27

Cain Marko wrote:
kvraghav wrote:They cannot hide a F-16 loss. US would have the data before Pakis.
How?

US performs all the periodic checks of all the equipment sold to pakistan. If some F-16 is missing, it will be known during the periodic checks.

sudeepj · Post by **sudeepj** » 28 Feb 2019 12:29

https://twitter.com/MdShafiKhatana/stat ... 0864004096

Video of PakMil Loading F16 debris onto army truck. Something that looks like a CFT to my naive eyes.

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 28 Feb 2019 12:31

naruto wrote:A video footage, has the imagery of the still photograph too of nozzle fairing/engine cladding (?).
It is definitely not Mig-21, so I guess it is the Paki F16.

https://twitter.com/MdShafiKhatana/stat ... 0864004096

That cylindrical thing that they carry into the truck looks like a drop tank to me, definitely not ones carried by any mig21 in iaf livery.

ashthor · Post by **ashthor** » 28 Feb 2019 12:31

Some wreckage being taken away

https://twitter.com/MdShafiKhatana/stat ... 0864004096

KarthikSan · Post by **KarthikSan** » 28 Feb 2019 12:31

kvraghav wrote:
Cain Marko wrote: How?
US performs all the periodic checks of all the equipment sold to pakistan. If some F-16 is missing, it will be known during the periodic checks.

Amirkhans have tracking devices and gateways for backdoor entry in all the equipment they sell even to their NATO counterparts. I'm sure they will not sell even a coffee mug to TSP without a tracking device.

Ardeshir · Post by **Ardeshir** » 28 Feb 2019 12:37

Can we confirm the type of the plane? This looks like pre-upgrade, since the PW engine looks different on Block 52. http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article3906.html

sooraj · Post by **sooraj** » 28 Feb 2019 12:38

Pak F16 pilot beaten by Pakistani villagers believing he was Indian

sooraj · Post by **sooraj** » 28 Feb 2019 12:40

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Meeting of Army Chief General Bipin Rawat with delegates from panchayat members and ex-servicemen from #JammuAndKashmir scheduled for today has been cancelled.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Feb 2019 12:41

http://www.jumpingfrog.com/images/epm16 ... a4427b.jpg

PW F100 older engine and newer engine both use that chicklet type casing struct.

one of the pics from that area has a destroyed rear section and a PA guy taking a pic with cellphone, that one is the Mig21 - the crude internal structure, small engine inner tube and wavy shape of the flame stabilizer is R25.

pic posted above with senior officer on the phone is american engine. dont think anyone can saw which mark of f16 unless they operate a f16.

both fell in the same area so the terrain etc is similar and so is the sand camo dress of the PA units.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 28 Feb 2019 12:43

sooraj wrote:Pak F16 pilot beaten by Pakistani villagers believing he was Indian

Source please

a_bharat · Post by **a_bharat** » 28 Feb 2019 12:44

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Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 28 Feb 2019 12:44

Cain Marko wrote:
kvraghav wrote:They cannot hide a F-16 loss. US would have the data before Pakis.
How? It'll really piss off LM that a bison shot it's tfta viper and sunk its mrca chances.

They'll probably claim ground fire or friendly fire.

Echh&Dee restored.

suvod · Post by **suvod** » 28 Feb 2019 12:53

These pictures have been released through ISPR controlled journalist accounts on Twitter. Clearly they had these from yesterday and chose to release only after it became clear that the blackmail over taking WingCo Abhi hostage is not working. This is their next chaal so to say, in this escalation / de-escalation game. To me, looks like they are saying - see we are giving you this. you have downed our vaunted F16. Score is 1-1, let's get back to business-as-usual.