Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 01 Mar 2019 14:37

Singha wrote:Uvision

^^ sigh. israeli as usual. they are streets ahead of the pack in productizing interesting ideas in security domain.

The best thing is these are not uber expensive high end unobtanium stuff like stealth or hypersonics. They are much simpler in terms of complexity and can be developed relatively easier even by private companies.

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 01 Mar 2019 14:38

nam wrote:Since our hero is on his way.

For all the guys questioning the Strike. Let me show some "Spice".

Before

After

The location:

https://zoom.earth/#34.46344,73.318404,19z,sat

Collapsed roof on the big building, burnt area and the second building near the entrance decimated.

This is the seminary, near the crates shown by Pak media.

Jai Hind.

Same pic on Feb 20th and Feb28th? I don't get it.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Mar 2019 14:39

a lone ukrainian airlines flight made a 90' right at ahmedabad and is nearly done flying over pak directly

https://www.flightradar24.com/AUI392/1fa8610c

strong move that. perhaps donetsk skills at play.

nam · Post by **nam** » 01 Mar 2019 14:44

milindc wrote:
Same pic on Feb 20th and Feb28th? I don't get it.

Where on GE? GE has not been updated.

The before picture is from GE. The after picture is from Zoom Earth, which updates daily.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 01 Mar 2019 14:45

Another FinnAir flight heading into Paki airspace.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 01 Mar 2019 14:47

ramana wrote: We always have the high road and the low road or as Kaal Chiron says the right hand and the left hand doctrines.

Modi uses both.
The details of Balakot strike are not released yet.
One strike convinced the KSA to give 3T to Pakistan.
Now China is nikkah hallala for TSP e.g. CPEC etc.

Give time and don't go by press statements.

So 3 KSA flights from ISB & Lahore (x2). Flightradar says they are civilian flights and not freighter e.g. HZ-AK34 (check youtube too)...

looks like evacuation but will check and/or transport TSPA/F from KSA back to TSP

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Mar 2019 14:50

Neela wrote:Another FinnAir flight heading into Paki airspace.

so the more agile operators made changes on the fly....airspace must have opened an hour ago.

so the GDOF has opened - great dawn of freedom

its safe for the Awaam to fly again!! happy friday!

ks_sachin · Post by **ks_sachin** » 01 Mar 2019 14:51

disha wrote:Why do we dhoti shiver so much? I do not understand why we want approval and seek that others do the same!

Sanju wrote:
See the highlighted part.
So a gora (Michael Sheldon), most likely 5 years out of college, sits as an analyst in some high fangled name "Digital Forensics Lab" which is an arm of a 'think tank' which has a definite agenda (Working Together to Secure the Future. Renewing the Atlantic Community for Global Challenges).

This kid-gora-analyst talks nonsense and refutes (because he is paid to analyze, he paid on quantity and not on quality and his analysis has a directed motive defined by the paymaster) based on some photos supplied by the bakis who we know are always truthful (right?).

It says a lot about our lack of self-confidence in general.

Can you prove that?

nam · Post by **nam** » 01 Mar 2019 14:53

Digital Forensics lab guy did not zoom enough on the seminary. The attack was on the seminary on the hill top.

Most of the bombs fell on the sideways. The seminary was also hit.

Shows clearly in the zoom earth images.

https://zoom.earth/#34.463523,73.318609,18z,map

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Mar 2019 14:54

so its seems one air marshal raghunath nambiar is taking over a WAC commander today on retirement of his predecessor....

https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/11 ... 2460452864

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Mar 2019 14:59

the osint/forensics is now cottage industry in UK.

its a industry oriented to finding 'evidence' of war crimes & abuses against the enemies of the west. from hangings in some syrian prison, to russian SAMs in ukraine , to now perhaps venezuelan death camps their interests are in alignment with the political ishara of the day.

its just another stick to 'frame charges in the people's court' and get a leg into the NGO/think tank/risk analysis/deposition/strategist circles.

anyone with a credit card and a laptop and gora skin is a big analyst these days.

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 01 Mar 2019 14:59

sivab wrote:https://twitter.com/desertfox61I/status ... 8835138560

Pre-strike

Post strike

This is an incorrect deduction. Bing image (so-called "post strike") predates the Google image, one can see several structures in the Google image which are not there in the Bing one - for instance look for "Pak-China hotel" in the vicinity. It's there in the Google image but not in Bing.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 01 Mar 2019 15:01

Singha wrote:so its seems one air marshal raghunath nambiar is taking over a WAC commander today on retirement of his predecessor....

https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/11 ... 2460452864

Tejas lover

http://www.delhidefencereview.com/2018/ ... l-nambiar/

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 01 Mar 2019 15:07

Mods, OT I know but still, its pretty funny

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0j-2SZXQAAqVwm.jpg:small

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 01 Mar 2019 15:09

Singha wrote:the osint/forensics is now cottage industry in UK.

its a industry oriented to finding 'evidence' of war crimes & abuses against the enemies of the west. from hangings in some syrian prison, to russian SAMs in ukraine , to now perhaps venezuelan death camps their interests are in alignment with the political ishara of the day.

its just another stick to 'frame charges in the people's court' and get a leg into the NGO/think tank/risk analysis/deposition/strategist circles.

anyone with a credit card and a laptop and gora skin is a big analyst these days.

They probably wouldn't have set foot in syria ever. Hardly ever leave the plush confines of their air conditioned/heated offices in London. Some analysts these are.

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 01 Mar 2019 15:09

Neela wrote:Another FinnAir flight heading into Paki airspace.

FR24 is notoriously inaccurate because the data it relies on is inaccurate. In case the transponder is off or plane is outside coverage area, it projects on a straight line to destination basis, which explains why the Ukranian plane took a 90% turn into and over Pakistan when in reality it is transiting the arabian sea.

Kakarat · Post by **Kakarat** » 01 Mar 2019 15:10

The bing map has one of the worst updated imagery and using that to prove the airstrike is incorrect, no free commercially available will provide live view or latest imagery. Latest imagery of our new war memorial in delhi is not available yet good luck finding the strike imagery

Ashokk · Post by **Ashokk** » 01 Mar 2019 15:11

Singha wrote:a lone ukrainian airlines flight made a 90' right at ahmedabad and is nearly done flying over pak directly

https://www.flightradar24.com/AUI392/1fa8610c

strong move that. perhaps donetsk skills at play.

Flightradar just extrapolates based on final destination when it doesn't have ADS-B updates, doubt that it flew over Pak.

Shivaji · Post by **Shivaji** » 01 Mar 2019 15:14

Desperate ISI trying to stay relevant by making Taliban attack an Afghan base:

https://in.reuters.com/article/afghanis ... NKCN1QI3UV

Talibanis having exaggerated claims of US casualties.

Ashokk · Post by **Ashokk** » 01 Mar 2019 15:20

IAF pilot Abhinandan's parents get standing ovation on board flight to Delhi

NEW DELHI: It may have been after midnight when the Chennai-Delhi flight came to a stop at the tarmac but there was no scramble to get bags from the overhead bin or rush towards the exit because all eyes were focused on one couple — the parents of IAF pilot Abhinandan Varthaman.

Air Marshal (retd) S Varthaman and Dr Shobha Varthaman were given a standing ovation as passengers made way for them in the early hours of Friday, ensuring that the couple gets off first.

durairaaj · Post by **durairaaj** » 01 Mar 2019 15:22

milindc wrote:
nam wrote:Since our hero is on his way.

For all the guys questioning the Strike. Let me show some "Spice".

https://zoom.earth/#34.46344,73.318404,19z,sat

Collapsed roof on the big building, burnt area and the second building near the entrance decimated.

This is the seminary, near the crates shown by Pak media.

Jai Hind.
Same pic on Feb 20th and Feb28th? I don't get it.

Its not the same picture. In after pic you see the squares near right bottom are checkered. It means the roof is blown away and interior walls are showing as checked pattern. The building just above this seems to be completely flattened.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Mar 2019 15:25

partha · Post by **partha** » 01 Mar 2019 15:26

Pakistani airspace closed for 3 more days. Fresh NOTAM issued.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 01 Mar 2019 15:28

partha wrote:Pakistani airspace closed for 3 more days. Fresh NOTAM issued.

pralay · Post by **pralay** » 01 Mar 2019 15:29

enemy awacs patroling with transponder on
https://www.flightradar24.com/DG44/1fa8898d

partha · Post by **partha** » 01 Mar 2019 15:30

So they are expecting some action after Wg Cmdr Abhinandan comes back! They must have recvd some intel indicating possible Indian action in the next 3 days or they are just basing it on Modi's statement on pilot project during an award function

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 01 Mar 2019 15:32

Praveen Swami says 5 confirmed burials in the area, but estimate is 20 incl 3 TSPA trainers.
https://www.firstpost.com/india/propert ... 77441.html

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 01 Mar 2019 15:37

partha wrote:Pakistani airspace closed for 3 more days. Fresh NOTAM issued.

must be doing lot of dry runs of air defense

ashthor · Post by **ashthor** » 01 Mar 2019 15:39

Experts check this videos

https://twitter.com/sayareakd/status/11 ... 9601471488

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 01 Mar 2019 15:44

shyamd wrote:Praveen Swami says 5 confirmed burials in the area, but estimate is 20 incl 3 TSPA trainers.
https://www.firstpost.com/india/propert ... 77441.html

The fact all are missing is how.many where vaporised? Phulwama too mad many empty caskets.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 01 Mar 2019 15:45

Singha wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0gJAfbXgAAVtX_.jpg

This guy is a habitual Modi baiter, keeps pushing the aman agenda... for him to make this, perhaps now he understands what Modi is dealing with.

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 01 Mar 2019 15:46

If Modi announces another G2G deal for 36 more Rafales in the interest of national security and saying we cannot allow our young pilots to continue to fly decades old Mig aircraft, nobody can question him. Airforce will be grateful too. The timing is perfect. I think the old G2G contract allows for an additional order, so not much negotiations need to be done now.

It will also mean death for Rafale scandal nonsense that was peddled by Congress. They will not dare to raise one sound on it again.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 01 Mar 2019 15:48

partha wrote:So they are expecting some action after Wg Cmdr Abhinandan comes back! They must have recvd some intel indicating possible Indian action in the next 3 days or they are just basing it on Modi's statement on pilot project during an award function

I would think that they have gotten NO response/assurance from their outreach to Delhi via US, UK, UAE, etc

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 01 Mar 2019 15:50

This guy is a turd, but with press contacts within TSP so quoting him.
https://www.firstpost.com/india/propert ... 77441.html

In Bahawalpur and other major Pakistani cities, JeM operations are underway, untouched by the unfolding India-Pakistan crisis. In Karachi, there were "magnificent gatherings at two locations, where hundreds of volunteers assembled to learn about the realities of jihad," says al-Qalam.

The JeM's district-in-charge, Rana Shahid, led similar gatherings in Bahawalpur, in the name of the emir-ul-mujahideen (prince of the holy warriors) Masood Azhar.

Thank you Thank you Pakistani JEM idiots for once again giving us casus belli. Your forefathers's forefathers keep protecting your daddy-O despite their act of war and asking for de-escalation, and you idiots prove that you are really special.

Explains why Modi/NS/JetLI are all meeting as well. The stocks are being built up. Good!!

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 01 Mar 2019 15:53

schinnas wrote:If Modi announces another G2G deal for 36 more Rafales in the interest of national security and saying we cannot allow our young pilots to continue to fly decades old Mig aircraft, nobody can question him. Airforce will be grateful too. The timing is perfect. I think the old G2G contract allows for an additional order, so not much negotiations need to be done now.

It will also mean death for Rafale scandal nonsense that was peddled by Congress. They will not dare to raise one sound on it again.

I dont think its Rafales, its stuff we can use right away.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com ... L1500_.jpg

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 01 Mar 2019 15:54

Rafale case has been reopened at the SC. Wait for all.tjos to.die down.

Plus the next lot will most likely be manufactured in DRAL. That itself will give rise to more conspiracy theory.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 01 Mar 2019 15:55

Ashokk wrote:IAF pilot Abhinandan's parents get standing ovation on board flight to Delhi
NEW DELHI: It may have been after midnight when the Chennai-Delhi flight came to a stop at the tarmac but there was no scramble to get bags from the overhead bin or rush towards the exit because all eyes were focused on one couple — the parents of IAF pilot Abhinandan Varthaman.

Air Marshal (retd) S Varthaman and Dr Shobha Varthaman were given a standing ovation as passengers made way for them in the early hours of Friday, ensuring that the couple gets off first.

The real mood of the nation! Not the moron left spamming social media!

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 01 Mar 2019 15:55

Karan M wrote:I dont think its Rafales, its stuff we can use right away.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com ... L1500_.jpg

That looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger's shopping cart after he broke into a gun store in Texas.

partha · Post by **partha** » 01 Mar 2019 15:56

schinnas wrote:If Modi announces another G2G deal for 36 more Rafales in the interest of national security and saying we cannot allow our young pilots to continue to fly decades old Mig aircraft, nobody can question him. Airforce will be grateful too. The timing is perfect. I think the old G2G contract allows for an additional order, so not much negotiations need to be done now.

It will also mean death for Rafale scandal nonsense that was peddled by Congress. They will not dare to raise one sound on it again.

What the recent dogfight involving Wg Cmdr Abhinandan showed is that if a skilled pilot can use an aging MiG21 to shoot down a more advanced F16, he can definitely do the same using LCA Tejas which is more advanced than MiG21. Instead of ordering more Rafales, we should order more LCAs. Abhinandan has made a great case to induct more LCAs. I would love to see our own Tejas shoot down a Paki F16 or JF-17.

Definitely difficult for RaGa to persist with the fake Rafale scandal allegation.

nam · Post by **nam** » 01 Mar 2019 16:00

More than the jet, we should come with up a solution which caters to the scenarios faced in the air battle.

PAF jets were behind 10km treaty limit. We could not shoot them down UNTIL they ingress in to our border and ran back.

Once they are flying away, it is difficult to shoot them down with the usual BVR.

This will happen in future standoff, Paks may sneak in our border and then run off.

Need to get our SFDR rolling in fast. Next time they do this, instead of Su-30 & Mig21 dashing to meet them, a Ramjet powered BVR will be chasing them .