Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Lalmohan » 01 Mar 2019 19:32

well you need to verify that the POW was not mistreated or if they were then to record it on the spot. no point coming back the next day to announce injuries

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby williams » 01 Mar 2019 19:33

I am trying to understand the Modi Government Strategy here. And based on a few observations this is what I think is going on.

1. They don't want the day to day life of the Indian citizenry to be affected while the punishment is met out to Pakistan. We can see Modi himself continuing with the normal schedule as an example.

2. They did expect some sort of retaliation and usual Paki echendee drama. But they are ignoring it and are not giving any credence to the cheap Paki media circus.

3. They know there will be Paki sympathizers both at home and abroad who will try to change the narrative and they are not going to waste their energy on it. We have enough common citizen rakshaks who can take care of some of it.

4. They want to publicly hit the terrorists and privately incur pain to Paki Fauj. While we know 3 targets were hit, they only announced the first target publicly. Pakis were hurt badly privately that is the reason for a lot of noise from TSP this time.

5. While they want the world on our side, they are not listening to any international lecture on being restrained.

Given the above, we should not expect any full-fledged war. There will be more offensive action for sure, but nothing will trigger a war. They know, Paki capability more than all of us in BR and they are not dhoti shivering like some of us. I think they are going to threaten Paki airspace many more times. I am sure IN has already made some subtle aggressive moves. IA is going to keep pounding their posts while deploying aggressively. All this will give Bajwa and his core kamandus sleepless nights, while we bankrupt them emotionally and physically in multifold ways.

So relax, get some popcorn and watch the fun

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Ashokk » 01 Mar 2019 19:35

Paki flights sticking close to their western border. ER550 /SEP550 Karachi-Peshawar just took off.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby habal » 01 Mar 2019 19:36

pakistanis are taking advantage of the media circus outside attari and are delaying procedures to keep 'magnanimous' their role in handover in limelight as far as possible.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby habal » 01 Mar 2019 19:39

the ICRC to whom pakistanis claim to have handed over wg cdr to comprise of both pakistani and indian doctors. The reason for the delay could most probably be a lack of consensus on injuries listed and nonagreement on a final draft.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby CRamS » 01 Mar 2019 19:42

In all the justifiable euphoria over Wng Cmdr Abhi's release, lets not forget that TSP is back to its war of 1000 cuts. Add some more brave hearts lost to the list of martyrs. Sad

https://www.rediff.com/news/report/enco ... 190301.htm

Talking about bogus international pressure, maybe a naive question, but why can't Indian govt and military change tactics in encountering Paki and KM pigLeTs. For e.g., why send scores of our brave guys head on to take on the pigLeTs? Why not helicopter gun ships or mobile launchers to fire from a distance at a particular home where the pigLeTs are taking cover. Sure, there will be collateral damage and 'international community' and Indian libtrads will cry human rights, but so what?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby IndraD » 01 Mar 2019 19:43

no one can beat bakis....

First F16 to be downed in a dog fight with MiG was from PAF by PAF https://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-w ... ce-2725383
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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby IndraD » 01 Mar 2019 19:45

habal wrote:pakistanis are taking advantage of the media circus outside attari and are delaying procedures to keep 'magnanimous' their role in handover in limelight as far as possible.

India asked for a chartered flight to Delhi for Abhinandan in the night but Pakistan insisted they will make a fanfare of it at Wagha

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Sid » 01 Mar 2019 19:49

IndraD wrote:no one can beat bakis....

First F16 to be downed in a dog fight with MiG was from PAF by PAF https://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-w ... ce-2725383


I knew this was going to come up. It’s a very old story.

Soviet Mig pilot actually claimed that it was him who did the shoot down, but porki interrogators maintained it was a blue-on-blue. And knowing Porkies, I am inclined to believe Soviets over them.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby jamwal » 01 Mar 2019 19:50

Is there any news of CRPF personnel being killed on LoC ? Is it true ? Since when they've been deployed there ?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby ArjunPandit » 01 Mar 2019 19:52

Sid wrote:
IndraD wrote:no one can beat bakis....

First F16 to be downed in a dog fight with MiG was from PAF by PAF https://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-w ... ce-2725383


I knew this was going to come up. It’s a very old story.

Soviet Mig pilot actually claimed that it was him who did the shoot down, but porki interrogators maintained it was a blue-on-blue. And knowing Porkies, I am inclined to believe Soviets over them.

i tend to see many stories first here on BRF then on other news portals, it's becoming a good trend. I dont mind BRF being the bodhitree of indian journalists.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Bart S » 01 Mar 2019 19:52

jamwal wrote:Is there any news of CRPF personnel being killed on LoC ? Is it true ? Since when they've been deployed there ?


Not LOC, encounter with terrorists within Kashmir.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby vivekmehta » 01 Mar 2019 19:53

Lalmohan wrote:well you need to verify that the POW was not mistreated or if they were then to record it on the spot. no point coming back the next day to announce injuries

That's what I want to say.. a complete medical examination jointly should be done there during handover process.. all injury should be recorded... Will be helpful .. later ...... As TOI is reporting that there will be a brief by IAF after handover.... That medical report should be used there to show to world that this is how ..he was treated.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Abhi_G » 01 Mar 2019 19:55

jamwal wrote:Is there any news of CRPF personnel being killed on LoC ? Is it true ? Since when they've been deployed there ?

4 martyred.
1 CRPF and 3 J&K Police
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Postby vivekmehta » 01 Mar 2019 19:59

Abhi_G wrote:
jamwal wrote:Is there any news of CRPF personnel being killed on LoC ? Is it true ? Since when they've been deployed there ?

4 martyred.


4 more Abhinandan gone... Even before we get ourone back.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby tapan » 01 Mar 2019 20:01

vivekmehta wrote:
Abhi_G wrote:4 martyred.


4 more Abhinandan gone... Even before we get ourone back.

Om Shanti!

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby nits » 01 Mar 2019 20:06

Pak playing dirty games; just delaying the release of Abhinandan; News channels now reporting it may take 1 -2 hour more

Note that Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman still at Pakistan's side of the border. Cant trust this guys

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby sudhan » 01 Mar 2019 20:11

Praveen swami says the Paki pilot shot down was indeed whacked by the mob.

Pilot of downed Pakistan Air Force F-16 Shahaz-ud-Din mistaken for Indian airman, lynched by Nowshera mob

Thats why the initial press handouts from pakis said 1 pilot safe, 1 in hospital..

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby pankajs » 01 Mar 2019 20:12

Some verified libturd tried to gauge the sentiment AFTER talking up THEIR statesman Dimran

https://twitter.com/saliltripathi/statu ... 8570602496
Salil Tripathi سلیل تریپاٹھی સલિલ ત્રિપાઠી Verified account @saliltripathi

And the winner is:

The choices offered in the exact order were
1. Dimran
2. Modi
3. Wg Cdr Abhinandan
4. Nirmala (Who?) {Exact words. Notice the libturd contempt for this hardworking lady.}

Guess what verdict twitter delivered? 71% Modi followed by 16% WC Abhi

Mangos may not be as powerful influencers as these verified libturds are but they surely can differentiate substance from propaganda.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby IndraD » 01 Mar 2019 20:21

https://www.firstpost.com/india/pilot-o ... 80091.html

it seems to be official PAF official's jet hit by Abhinandan's missile was lynched by own people

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby nam » 01 Mar 2019 20:22

rumors of Pak rethink on WC hand over in twitter.

If true, Karachi will start switching off their lights again.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby nits » 01 Mar 2019 20:25

nam wrote:rumors of Pak rethink on WC hand over in twitter.

If true, Karachi will start switching off their lights again.


no worries there will be ample light of fire if that happens

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby ArjunPandit » 01 Mar 2019 20:30

nam wrote:rumors of Pak rethink on WC hand over in twitter.

If true, Karachi will start switching off their lights again.

seems like uniformed jihadis are living up to the motto of pakis, have a blast till you last. My two cents, the new normal is regular thappads to pakis by a combination of IAF and IA

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby ArjunPandit » 01 Mar 2019 20:32

nam wrote:rumors of Pak rethink on WC hand over in twitter.

If true, Karachi will start switching off their lights again.

sir i am sure they would remember the night bombings of 1971, when we didnt have desi gps and sat recons. Imagine what they are gonna be up for today. It will be best that they blow a fuel tankers or depots in karachi themselves and blame india to be aggressor and use the smoke to prevent india from getting ground intel. Knowing their mindset, they can actually do it!

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby DrRatnadip » 01 Mar 2019 20:33

nam wrote:rumors of Pak rethink on WC hand over in twitter.

If true, Karachi will start switching off their lights again.


Hope its no true sir..waiting anxiously since long..
Is their any relation between heavy cross border shelling and delay in Abhinandan sir's return..??

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Postby Zynda » 01 Mar 2019 20:38

One paki dude pretending to be a Brit national on Twitter is saying that Paki may make WC release slightly conditional and hence the delay.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby sampat » 01 Mar 2019 20:40

ArjunPandit wrote:
nam wrote:rumors of Pak rethink on WC hand over in twitter.

If true, Karachi will start switching off their lights again.

sir i am sure they would remember the night bombings of 1971, when we didnt have desi gps and sat recons. Imagine what they are gonna be up for today. It will be best that they blow a fuel tankers or depots in karachi themselves and blame india to be aggressor and use the smoke to prevent india from getting ground intel. Knowing their mindset, they can actually do it!


They have done similar things in past. long time ago in my school days, paki was proudly narrating how their brave momin army destroyed their own weapon depot and risked destroying a city to siphon off stinger missile from US.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby AshishAcharya » 01 Mar 2019 20:42

Paki playing delayed tactics. Another Thapad needed. They don't understand unless they receive regular beatings.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Bart S » 01 Mar 2019 20:43

Pakis are really exploiting our soft spot, which is TRP hungry salivating media channels and gullible middle class jackasses who lap up this kind of stuff like some form of entertainment.

We really need a better media management and coordination strategy.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby sudhan » 01 Mar 2019 20:43

A lot of planes without any destination registered, air borne over paki airspace. Something is up..

I think some high profile visits are happening to 4father countries

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby manju » 01 Mar 2019 20:44

Singha wrote:as of now paki airspace is still closed. if they open it now, their local flights can operate. international flights already in the air will stick to plan and steer south. tomorrows flights might revert.


MoI was flying Urope Paris to Bengaluru that night.. The flight path was

- flew SE from paris over israel and then to Bengluru (almost in east direction) , this as opposed to the

- Usual route over turkey/black sea, north iran, southern pakistan, gujrat..MH.. and then into KA..

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby nits » 01 Mar 2019 20:45

News saying commander still in Lahore and not on Border; this means Pak is having rethink ?
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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Rakesh » 01 Mar 2019 20:45

They are purposely delaying handing over Wing Commander Varthaman because they want us to give them an ultimatum.

They can then go to town saying that we are escalating tensions. What a stupid strategy.

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Postby Rakesh » 01 Mar 2019 20:46

Kakkaji wrote:Jagran reporting Wingco Abhinandan has been handed over to India by Pakistan

https://www.jagran.com/news/national-surgical-strike-2-abhinandan-varthanam-return-live-update-lb-19002994.html?src=p1

I will believe that when I see a picture.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Bart S » 01 Mar 2019 20:46

In hindsight, it was better that Capt Amarinder was asked to not come to Wagah. With a chief minister of a major state in presence and made to wait, it would have made the optics even worse for us.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby AshishAcharya » 01 Mar 2019 20:48

India today reporting the immigration formalities have been completed.

On a side note, Pakistan has made sure it would not be able to earn any Goodwill liberandus desperately wanted.
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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby JayS » 01 Mar 2019 20:50

Kakkaji wrote:Jagran reporting Wingco Abhinandan has been handed over to India by Pakistan

https://www.jagran.com/news/national-surgical-strike-2-abhinandan-varthanam-return-live-update-lb-19002994.html?src=p1


Tarmak tweeted it like hours ago, that Abhi is back on our soil.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby ramana » 01 Mar 2019 20:54

shyamd wrote:Praveen Swami says 5 confirmed burials in the area, but estimate is 20 incl 3 TSPA trainers.
https://www.firstpost.com/india/propert ... 77441.html


No posting this #MoFu or Shiv Aroor or that bar guy.All are #FatherC*ds.
They were tweeting Wg Co. Abhinandan bloodied picture and releasing name before family was informed.

And consider this a "summary ban" warning.
We need to stop treating these jokers as eminent persons.


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