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Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- December 2002
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Re: Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- December 2002
Hitler plane: Karnataka seeks AP help
http://www.hindustantimes.com/2002/Dec/02/printedition/031202/detNAT18.shtml
Vintage fighter plane at the centre of a controversy
http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=101311
Indian police in WW II plane hunt
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2527675.stm
http://www.hindustantimes.com/2002/Dec/02/printedition/031202/detNAT18.shtml
Vintage fighter plane at the centre of a controversy
http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=101311
Indian police in WW II plane hunt
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2527675.stm
Re: Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- December 2002
India's light combat aircraft prototypes on display next month
http://in.news.yahoo.com/021204/43/1yscg.html
http://in.news.yahoo.com/021204/43/1yscg.html
Re: Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- December 2002
Website of Southern Air Command
http://www.indianairforce.nic.in/sac/home_sac.htm
http://www.indianairforce.nic.in/sac/home_sac.htm
Re: Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- December 2002
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021205-124405-5967r
The lavish welcome laid on by India for this week's official visit of Russia's Vladimir Putin was looking like a love-in until somebody mentioned the word "MiG." In the last five years, India's elderly Soviet-built MiG-21 warplanes have suffered 110 crashes, and the Indian media have started calling the plane "widow-maker." The Russians, saying that this crash rate was five times higher than their own, blame pilot error and false economies by the Indian Air Force, which tried to save money by buying "non-authorized" spare parts for the aircraft. This infuriates the Indians, who point out that since Russia no longer makes the MiG-21, nor its spares, they have to buy them somewhere. Nikolai Nikitin, MiG's director-general, is offering to take over the servicing and logistics for the elderly aircraft from India's Hindustan Aeronautics, which built the aircraft under license. The MiG-21 was phased out from Soviet service over 20 years ago. In fact Nikitin, who has lately seen the rival Russian Sukhoi-27 and Sukhoi-30 warplanes winning the big Indian contracts, will offer almost anything to get a new deal to provide MiGs to India, from the MiG-29K naval version for the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier to the wholly new MiG-29M fighter bomber. Nikitin is pushing the MiG-29K as an alternative to the French-built Mirage-2000 for India's nuclear-capable bomber fleet. But the MiG has a credibility problem. The MiG-21 crash rate of 2.81 per 10,000 flying hours is fearsomely high. Only one aircraft in the Indian inventory has a worse record -- the MiG-23.
The lavish welcome laid on by India for this week's official visit of Russia's Vladimir Putin was looking like a love-in until somebody mentioned the word "MiG." In the last five years, India's elderly Soviet-built MiG-21 warplanes have suffered 110 crashes, and the Indian media have started calling the plane "widow-maker." The Russians, saying that this crash rate was five times higher than their own, blame pilot error and false economies by the Indian Air Force, which tried to save money by buying "non-authorized" spare parts for the aircraft. This infuriates the Indians, who point out that since Russia no longer makes the MiG-21, nor its spares, they have to buy them somewhere. Nikolai Nikitin, MiG's director-general, is offering to take over the servicing and logistics for the elderly aircraft from India's Hindustan Aeronautics, which built the aircraft under license. The MiG-21 was phased out from Soviet service over 20 years ago. In fact Nikitin, who has lately seen the rival Russian Sukhoi-27 and Sukhoi-30 warplanes winning the big Indian contracts, will offer almost anything to get a new deal to provide MiGs to India, from the MiG-29K naval version for the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier to the wholly new MiG-29M fighter bomber. Nikitin is pushing the MiG-29K as an alternative to the French-built Mirage-2000 for India's nuclear-capable bomber fleet. But the MiG has a credibility problem. The MiG-21 crash rate of 2.81 per 10,000 flying hours is fearsomely high. Only one aircraft in the Indian inventory has a worse record -- the MiG-23.
Re: Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- December 2002
Phalcon Update from
Flight International, Oct 8, 2002 p17
Relevant Excerpts ...
* Negotiations between Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) and the Russian authorities on the purchase of three Ilyushin Il-76 transports have run into difficulties.
* Russia is demanding a more substantial role in the $1 billion programme, which Israeli sources say includes allowing Russian companies to fit some electronics systems. The Russians are also understood to be seeking royalties on the deal. Israel's prime minster Ariel Sharon raised the subject with Russian president Vladimir Putin during a trip to Moscow last week.
* The Indian air force has refused to discuss analternative to the Il-76.
* India has been offered a more advanced Phalcon version than that offered to China.
Flight International, Oct 8, 2002 p17
Relevant Excerpts ...
* Negotiations between Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) and the Russian authorities on the purchase of three Ilyushin Il-76 transports have run into difficulties.
* Russia is demanding a more substantial role in the $1 billion programme, which Israeli sources say includes allowing Russian companies to fit some electronics systems. The Russians are also understood to be seeking royalties on the deal. Israel's prime minster Ariel Sharon raised the subject with Russian president Vladimir Putin during a trip to Moscow last week.
* The Indian air force has refused to discuss analternative to the Il-76.
* India has been offered a more advanced Phalcon version than that offered to China.
Re: Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- December 2002
AJT deal stuck due to impasse in price negotiations
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_122392,0008.htm
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_122392,0008.htm
Re: Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- December 2002
IE reports
JuM claims its missile shot down plane, IAF says no sign of hit
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=17970
JuM claims its missile shot down plane, IAF says no sign of hit
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=17970
Re: Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- December 2002
IAF MiG-21 crashes near Srinagar
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/xml/comp/articleshow?artid=32466448
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/xml/comp/articleshow?artid=32466448
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Re: Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- December 2002
Jokers-are-Mujahadeen claims to have downed MiG
http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/dec/26jk3.htm
http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/dec/26jk3.htm
Re: Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- December 2002
Army to equip counter-insurgency units with Israeli firearms
This news related to the IAF:
This news related to the IAF:
Top Army officials have indicated that special forces have been training with Air Force's multipurpose Mirage 2000 fighters for carrying out joint missions, specially in mountainous terrains.
Air Chief S Krishnaswamy has said that IAF now had the capability to carry out precision strikes from stand-off distances as far as 100-150 km and this could be used if need arose along the LoC to stall intrusions.
Re: Indian Air Force -- News Folder -- December 2002
Prices may be hyped by defence ministry to make a case for MIGs
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021230-010514-2603r
There are nasty rumors in the aerospace industry that Indian Defense Ministry officials are cooking the books, massively overstating the costs of new Western warplanes in favor of Russian-made MiGs that are falling out of the sky with dismaying regularity. Regardless of the fact that 14 of India's 69 MiG-21MF warplanes, and five of its 170 MiG21-bis/U models, have crashed in the past two years, the Indian Air Force has decided to stick with MiGs through the year 2020. Instead of buying the British Hawk trainer, India plans simply to upgrade the accident-prone MiGs, now dubbed "flying coffins" by the Indian media. The reason is money. The full MiG-21 fleet comprises some 250 aircraft: 55 MiG-21 MF/PFMA; 66 MiG-21FL/U; and 165 MiG-21 bis/U fighter/ground attack models. (India also operates MiG-29/UB, MiG 27, MiG-23 BN/ UM and MiG-23 MF/UM squadrons.) Upgrading them all would cost about $4.5 million per warplane. The figures produced by the Indian Defense Ministry say they cannot afford to buy British Aerospace Hawks, which cost just under $20 million each, despite long negotiations and a draft contract the Brits were convinced was final. British sources say the Indian figures are wildly inflated, not taking account of BAe's offers of big offsets, technology exchanges and co-production deals. The Defense Ministry claims U.S.-made F-16s would cost some $35 million each (way too high, say Lockheed-Martin sources), and that the French Mirage 2000-5 warplanes they already bought are far too costly at $40 million each.
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021230-010514-2603r
There are nasty rumors in the aerospace industry that Indian Defense Ministry officials are cooking the books, massively overstating the costs of new Western warplanes in favor of Russian-made MiGs that are falling out of the sky with dismaying regularity. Regardless of the fact that 14 of India's 69 MiG-21MF warplanes, and five of its 170 MiG21-bis/U models, have crashed in the past two years, the Indian Air Force has decided to stick with MiGs through the year 2020. Instead of buying the British Hawk trainer, India plans simply to upgrade the accident-prone MiGs, now dubbed "flying coffins" by the Indian media. The reason is money. The full MiG-21 fleet comprises some 250 aircraft: 55 MiG-21 MF/PFMA; 66 MiG-21FL/U; and 165 MiG-21 bis/U fighter/ground attack models. (India also operates MiG-29/UB, MiG 27, MiG-23 BN/ UM and MiG-23 MF/UM squadrons.) Upgrading them all would cost about $4.5 million per warplane. The figures produced by the Indian Defense Ministry say they cannot afford to buy British Aerospace Hawks, which cost just under $20 million each, despite long negotiations and a draft contract the Brits were convinced was final. British sources say the Indian figures are wildly inflated, not taking account of BAe's offers of big offsets, technology exchanges and co-production deals. The Defense Ministry claims U.S.-made F-16s would cost some $35 million each (way too high, say Lockheed-Martin sources), and that the French Mirage 2000-5 warplanes they already bought are far too costly at $40 million each.