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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby RayC » 27 Dec 2009 19:26

As far as formation signs and patches, none can beat Ludhiana and the zari work of Malerkotla!

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Dmurphy » 27 Dec 2009 22:33

Rahul M wrote:IAF patch ? shouldn't that be AEW&C ?
Ami i missing something here:?: Why not AWACS?

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby vkashyap » 29 Dec 2009 04:16

Found this from another forum, IN MiG-29KUB on the Russian carrier.

http://pilot.strizhi.info/2009/12/27/7027

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Rahul M » 29 Dec 2009 04:27

Dmurphy wrote:
Rahul M wrote:IAF patch ? shouldn't that be AEW&C ?
Ami i missing something here:?: Why not AWACS?

the generic name of the type is AEW&C. AWACS is the term for the specific USAF role and and is used almost exclusively to refer to the E-3 sentry. it's a brand name of sorts for US origin AEW&C aircraft.

calling an AEW&C aircraft 'AWACS' is similar to calling any chocolate as 'cadbury'. :wink:

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Jagan » 29 Dec 2009 05:52

Rahul M wrote:
the generic name of the type is AEW&C. AWACS is the term for the specific USAF role and and is used almost exclusively to refer to the E-3 sentry. it's a brand name of sorts for US origin AEW&C aircraft.

calling an AEW&C aircraft 'AWACS' is similar to calling any chocolate as 'cadbury'. :wink:


Just like we still xerox our books? :mrgreen: (I remember an ad campaign that wanted us to cease and desist from using the term xeroxing).

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby shiv » 29 Dec 2009 06:08

shiv wrote:
Jagan wrote:
The High res of the sukhoi at Tezpur should be on shiv aroors blog

EDIT: here it is http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_o_no4M2xEPY/S ... 780215.JPG


er. pardon me, but when my dog displays a blunt pointed red structure under his belly I know what he is thinking. But what would a similar structure indicate under the belly of an Su 30 like the one on the right in that picture :?:


Aditya G wrote:Its a recon pod based on SAR technology



Aditya - I was wondering if it could be an MK32 buddy-buddy refuelling pod

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby nachiket » 29 Dec 2009 07:15

Cain Marko wrote:Nice one Jagan garu, helps to put things in perspective. About the A2A refuelling pic, I thought it was also a part of the Phil Camp book on IAF flankers (could be wrong though). FWIW, from poster ghostrider 883 @ combatace forums:

http://forum.combatace.com/topic/31127- ... n-service/


From the same link....
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Caption in the book -
The underside view tells an interesting story. The diameter & angle of the port engine nozzle indicate that the engine shut down due to in-flight failure.

:shock: Amazing.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Aditya G » 29 Dec 2009 14:28

shiv wrote:
Aditya G wrote:Its a recon pod based on SAR technology


Aditya - I was wondering if it could be an MK32 buddy-buddy refuelling pod


The refueling pod when mounted on the centreline station is hidden in the 'tunnel' between the engines, unlike what we see in the picture.

Prasun Sengupta reports:

The 196kg EL/M 20600 RTP recently ordered for the IAF’s upgraded Jaguar IS is a unique Radar Targeting Pod integrating High Performance Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imaging, Ground Moving Target Indication (GMTI) and Precision Target Tracking.The RTP is a complete All-Weather, Autonomous Real Time System. It provides high quality radar images of ground targets and terrain from Stand-Off ranges, even through clouds, rain, fog, battlefield smoke and man-made camouflage. The RTP incorporates ELTA’s multi-year vast experience in the development and manufacturing of a varietyof radars including Airborne Fire Control, SAR, GMTI and Multi-Mission Suites. The RTP enables:
Long Range, Wide Area Surveillance & Reconnaissance
Detection, Classification, Precision Tracking and Targeting of Ground Targets
Optimized Time Sensitive Targets (TST) engagement
Network Centric Warfare (NCW) support: Target data sharing and “Kill Sequence” execution
Short Sensor-to-Shooter loop
Accurate Geo-location data for targets
Support of a wide variety of Air-to-Ground weapons
Installation on board Trainers, Helicopters andvarious A/C
The RTP supports fighter Air-To-Surface missions:
Real-Time Tactical/Armed Reconnaissance
Precision Strike of Stationary & Moving Ground Targets
Bomb Damage Assessment (BDA)


http://www.spyflight.co.uk/iaipod.htm

So far the only export customer that IAI have found for the EL/M-2060P is the Indian Air Force. In the summer of 2005 it was announced that the Indian Air Force had ordered a number of EL/M-2060 pods in a $150 million deal. The pod will be different from the version operated by the Israelis as it will also incorporate an electro/optical sensor provided by Elop. Exactly how many pods and associated ground stations have been acquired by India is unknown, however, when this system becomes operational on their Mirage and Su-27 aircraft it will provide the Indian Air Force with a huge leap in capability.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby shyamd » 30 Dec 2009 18:24

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Indian army commandoes climb down a rope to show a mock operation during the celebrations ahead of Vijay Divas, or Victory Day in Calcutta, India, Monday, Dec. 14, 2009. Vijay Divas is celebrated on Dec. 16 to celebrate India's victory over Pakistan in the 1971 war to liberate Bangladesh. Victoria Memorial Hall is seen in the background.
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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby atreya » 30 Dec 2009 18:51

In the 2nd pic above, what is that metallic thing hanging at the end of the rope?

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Venu » 30 Dec 2009 19:36

atreya wrote:In the 2nd pic above, what is that metallic thing hanging at the end of the rope?


Could be a ballast.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Ankit Desai » 30 Dec 2009 20:04

atreya wrote:In the 2nd pic above, what is that metallic thing hanging at the end of the rope?


I think it is used to keep rope straight in air, without it rope will swing around and that cause problem for troops.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby VijayKumarSinha » 02 Jan 2010 00:01

The chinese text begins by saying: We love India!
and ends with: We love India!

Or, does somebody have a better translation for it?

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Clearly, the chinese who took this picture was enamoured by the beauty of the commemorative plaque.
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The caption to these pictures, where I found it was, "South of Tibet, view from the PRC side"
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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby VijayKumarSinha » 02 Jan 2010 02:13

Confucius say.... You must love Indian soldiers, bad boy! :lol:

Caption from where this was photo chored by me: Published on Ordnance 2009 (fanbioy 's magazine)

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby rajkhalsa » 02 Jan 2010 03:12

Here is the text of the article. An online translator can give a good idea what it says
雪戎劲旅:

揭秘印度陆军山地部队
规模达到10个师、15万人左右

  最近中印边境谈判引起了许多媒体的追逐。由于两国在1962年发生过边境冲突,因此印度部署在边境一带的军事力量备受关注。而两国的边境多为山地,印军最有可能推上一线的是其山地部队。

  印度拥有世界上最大的山地部队,其规模达到10个师、15万人左右,每个师另有约8000人的后勤力量。印度军队采用司令部制度划分全国辖区,其中东、北、中央3个司令部的5个集团军均辖有山地部队。

  东部司令部

  印军东部司令部负责中印边境东段和中段(锡金及乃堆拉山口),与不丹、缅甸、孟加拉国、中国西藏自治区交接。此地地形陡峭险要,有便利快速的补给和浅近的纵深。在印国境线北侧、我西藏自治区一侧,短短数十千米跨度内,海拔从500米迅速上升到4500米以上,坦克和车辆几乎无法行动。此地扼守着我方控制的若干个险要山口,驼峰航线也经过此地。该部分的东侧和缅甸的克钦邦相邻,是当年孙立人将军远征军部队自缅甸跋涉的终点,史迪威公路也由此出发。

  该地区的达帕拉奇奥、兹罗、阿隆、特祖、帕丝阿特建有机场。但由于地形险恶,机场规模都很小,流量也有限,主要用于道路被切断的情况下,向当地驻军运送食品。当地有两条高等级公路,一条是连接提兹普尔和达旺的公路,一条是竣工于1998年的52号国道。后者连接了祖乃和迪拉卡,长336公里。印度的基础建设以低效率和低质量闻名,公路建设大多半途而废,而52号国道能在恶劣的地形上竣工,可见印度对这个地区相当重视。

  一直以来,印度官方不敢对藏南地区进行道路和桥梁方面的建设,以防我军利用这些交通条件对其阿萨姆邦进行打击。不过随着青藏铁路和西藏公路网的建设,印度开始感觉到了压力。

  目前印度正在东线和西线增修公路,计划修建27条公路,总长度804公里,预计2013年完工。

  东部司令部各个集团军曾在太平洋战争中与日军作战,并且直接参与1962年中印冲突和1971年入侵东巴的作战。目前承担锡金、阿萨姆邦、中国藏南地区的防御,以及东部雨林和平原地区的战备。

  印军第33集团军是东线的重点,负责东线西端的锡金、不丹和乃堆拉山口方向,下辖第17、20、27山地步兵师和一个陆军航空兵中队,总兵力4.5万~6万人。

  其中第17山地师是锡金中锡边境的一线部队,成立于二战,绰号为“黑猫”师,曾参加过反攻缅甸作战,在对日寇作战中曾7次获得维多利亚十字勋章。在中印冲突中该师有200多名士兵被我方击毙。

  第33集团军、尤其是第27师防守的重点地区是阿萨姆走廊,这是一条最窄处仅30公里的陆地通道。印方认为,如果中国军队切断阿萨姆走廊,整个印度东线将陷入危机。

  第4集团军司令部驻地提兹普尔距离达旺直线距离约100公里,是针对我藏南地区的主力,也承担在阿萨姆邦剿灭当地分离主义武装的任务。它由第2、5、 21山地师及炮兵旅组成。其中第5山地师是二战前组建的老牌部队,1962年被紧急空运到阿萨姆邦救火,在战局缓和后就地改编为山地师,寸步不离藏南。第 4军在1962年冲突中被击溃,我军的主要缴获和俘虏都是从第4军获得的。

  第3集团军负责与缅甸相邻的那加兰邦、曼尼普尔中央直辖区等的防务,下辖23步兵师、57山地师和一个炮兵旅,可以视为藏南的二线兵力。

  从2008年1月起,印度东部司令部开始组建两个新编制的山地师。这两个师各自兵力1.4万人,将装备印度最先进的武器。

  印军把第4军靠后布置,显示出其仍害怕中国军队会像1962年那样穿插围歼其主力、不过第33军中战斗力最强的第17山地师就驻扎在乃堆拉以南40公里处,第20、27山地师部署在二线,可见印军对第17山地师的战斗力极有信心。

  另外印度内政部和**“流亡政府”治安部操纵着一支“印藏边境警察部队”,现有实力约1.4万人。这支部队营以上军官为印度人,连以下军官和士兵均为叛逃藏人。印度内政部称赞其“适应高原地形环境,会讲土语,是一支不可多得的准军事部队”。

  印度把全部10个山地师中的7个放在了东线,表明了其山地部队建设的主要假想敌就是中国。

  北部司令部

  北部司令部的当面是我军的西线,此地正对着中国的阿里地区和巴控克什米尔,自然条件恶劣。当地的锡亚琴冰川是印度次大陆北部与中国的分水岭。自1947年印巴克什米尔争端爆发后,这里始终是世界上海拔最高的对峙阵地,印巴双方均在这里设有重兵,并多次发生血战。

  在这寒风刺骨的无人区驻军成本极其昂贵,所有的补给品都需要空运。仅此一项,印度每年就花费数千万美元。即使如此,一次任务下来,士兵的体重通常都要下降20公斤左右,许多人头发变白,面色铁青,浑身颤抖。印度至今有1万多士兵因冻伤和雪崩而残废,2000多名士兵死亡。

  在中印边境西段,由于复杂的克什米尔问题,印军的部署有“防巴”和“防华”的双重考虑。北部司令部包括14、15、17三个集团军。其中第15军针对中国的任务多一些,它是印度三个“最前沿部队”之一,直接威胁巴基斯坦和中国的唯一陆路咽喉喀喇昆仑公路。

  兵力较弱的第14集团军当面是印巴克什米尔争议区的卡吉尔和我国阿里地区,辖有第3步兵师和第8山地师,其中第3师与我军正面对抗。

  由于西线的3个集团军需要应对来自巴基斯坦装甲部队和山地部队的威胁,因此兵力上常有捉襟见肘的感觉,加之地形纵深、后勤方面与我军相比没有优势,因此对我军的威胁不如东线显著。

  印度的山地炮兵

  印军山地炮兵部队是由英国建立的,1962年中印边境冲突中我军进攻达旺时,印度第7山地炮兵连曾以炮火支援达旺印度守军。此后第4迫击炮连、第34 重迫击炮连、第5野战炮兵团、第22山地炮兵团和第6野战炮兵团实施了支援。瓦弄方向上的印度第17伞兵野战炮兵团和第71重迫击炮连参战。

  1962年后,印度炮兵进行了大规模重组。在1966年的第二次印巴战争和1971年的第三次印巴战争中都表现出色。1999年的卡吉尔炮战中,印军曾把大口径火炮拆成零部件机降到雪地上,再用人力组装起来和巴军对射。其作风之强悍,已非1962年的弱旅形象。

  山地步兵的装备

  印军山地步兵的装备并无特殊之处,如南非AGS-17榴弹发射器,AK-47、VZ58、L1A1、INSAS等自动步枪,SVD狙击步枪,FN机枪和 INSAS机枪等,部分部队还保留着布伦轻机枪。印军比较倾向于购买欧洲国家的火箭筒,如瑞典的卡尔·古斯塔夫和西班牙的C90火箭筒。其步兵分队的火力水平与我军基本相当或略高,而支援和压制火力则超过我军。

  值得注意的是,山地武器并不一定是越先进越好。拿巴军的经验来说,“在这里,我们需要老朋友”是流行于巴军前线士兵中的一句口头禅,意思是他们不大喜欢使用先进武器,宁可用自己熟悉的武器。

  上世纪80年代末,巴军的一位高官心血来潮,从比利时买来米尼米轻机枪送上锡亚琴冰川。然而戴着手套的巴军机枪手发现戴上手套后,手指伸不进机枪的扳机护弓里(如果不戴手套,10个指头必定冻伤坏死)。而且米尼米是小口径机枪,弹头重量很小,在高寒地区的复杂气流中毫无精度可言。这一度造成前线巴军人心不稳,只好把老朋友MG3请回来。山区不但有难以预测的切变风,而且空气温度、湿度都与平原地区不同,导致弹道完全不同。平原上神枪手到了雪山上也会经常脱靶,需要重新训练。这些问题都对武器装备的选用有很大影响。

  此外,在冰川上驻守的军人不到万不得已,一般不会使用爆炸性武器,因为巨大的爆炸声可能引起雪崩。这一点巴军士兵都心照不宣。

  印军山地步兵比较特殊的装备是一种头盔,它由一圈钢板制成,厚度6-7毫米,用织物的外罩包裹,头顶没有防护。在其他军队中从未见过这样的头盔,可能是印度因为军费不足而“山寨”出来的一种装备。部分印军山地步兵也装备有M88头盔。

  背心式携行具和集成的防弹衣是目前国际市场上的大路货,价格也不高,因此在印度一线山地部队中基本普及。印军还为山地步兵配备了高寒地区山地迷彩、军靴。部分部队甚至直接采用商用品牌的专业登山靴、绑腿。虽然看起来不太正规,但针对性很强,保证了部队的战斗力。

  国际军界普遍承认,印度山地部队的作战能力排在世界前列,其多年来的投入和建设确有成就。不过中印边境属于喜马拉雅山脉,多数区域的地形、气候都不适合人类生存。因此印度山地步兵哪怕仅仅是到边境上炫耀武力,都要面对不小的伤亡,这是任何训练或装备都不能避免的。 袁风

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby VijayKumarSinha » 02 Jan 2010 03:27

rajkhalsa wrote:Here is the text of the article. An online translator can give a good idea what it says


Thanks alot! How did you separate the text from the pic? :oops:
oh! never mind, I went back to the place and saw your post there.

lol, you are the rajkhalsa of the same website! You have a treature trove of pictures on the Indian forces!
Please, post them here too?

Thanks, once again.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Gagan » 02 Jan 2010 04:52

There's your translation:
Snow Rong strong contingent:

Jie Mi Indian Army mountain troops
Scale of up to 10 divisions, 15 million people

The recent Sino-Indian border negotiations has been much media chase. Because the two countries occurred in the border conflict in 1962, so India's military forces deployed in the border area of concern. The mostly mountainous border between the two countries, the Indian Army is most likely to push the forefront of its mountain troops.

India has the world's largest mountain troops, their scale of 10 divisions, 15 million people, each division and about 8,000 of the logistics force. The Indian army into the country using the system command area, East, North, Central 3 Command five Army mountain troops are presiding over.

Eastern Command

TNI headquarters is responsible for the Sino-Indian border in eastern and middle eastern (Sikkim and Nathu La Pass), and Bhutan, Myanmar, Bangladesh, China, Tibet Autonomous Region handover. Advantageous here, the steep terrain, there are to facilitate the rapid supply and Qian Jin-depth. Borders the north side in India, I Tibet side, within a short span of tens of kilometers, from 500 meters above sea level rose rapidly to 4,500 meters, tanks and vehicles, is almost immobile. Here a critical point of the control of a number of advantageous side saddle Hump also been here. That part of the east and Myanmar, Kachin adjacent to that year, General Sun Li-jen Expeditionary Force troops from the Burma end of journey, Stilwell Road, also start from this point.

In the region 达帕拉奇奥, Fitzroy, Aaron, Tezu, Pasiete built airport. However, due to terrain, the airport on a small scale, flow is limited, mainly for the case of roads have been cut off, delivering food to the local garrison. There are two local high-grade highways, linking a Tizipuer and Tawang road, one was completed in 1998 State Road 52. The latter is connected to the ancestors and Diracca long and 336 kilometers. India's infrastructure to low efficiency and low-quality well-known, road construction are mostly unfinished, while the No. 52 National Road can be completed in rough terrain, showing that India attaches great importance to this region.

All along, the Indian authorities did not dare to southern Tibet area in the construction of roads and bridges to prevent the military use of these traffic conditions on the state of Assam to combat. But with the Qinghai-Tibet railway and the construction of road network in Tibet, India began to feel pressure.

Currently India is the Eastern and Western lines modified to roads, plans to build 27 roads, with a total length of 804 kilometers, is expected to be completed in 2013.

The various Army headquarters in the eastern Pacific War with the Japanese war, and directly involved in the 1962 Sino-Indian conflict and the 1971 invasion of Dongba combat. At present commitment to Sikkim, Assam, southern China's Tibetan region, defense, and the eastern rain forest and plain areas of combat readiness.

Section 33 Indian Army was the focus of the Eastern responsible for the western end of the east line of Sikkim, Bhutan and the direction of the Nathu La Pass, under the jurisdiction of section 17,20,27 Mountain Infantry Division and an Army Air Force squadron, with a total strength of 45000 ~ 6 million people.

The 17th Mountain Division, which is the border of Sikkim in the tin front-line troops, was established in World War II, nicknamed the "Black Cat" Division, took part in offensive operations in Myanmar, in the Japanese war, had seven times received the Victoria Cross. In the Sino-Indian conflict in the division are more than 200 soldiers were killed by our side.

No. 33 Army, in particular the focus of the 27th Division defending region is Assam corridor, which is a narrowest point is only 30 kilometers of land access. The Indian side believes that if the Chinese army cut off the Assam corridor, the whole of India will be the Eastern crisis.

4th Army headquarters from Tawang resident Tizipuer straight-line distance is about 100 km, is directed at me, the main southern Tibet, but also bear in Assam separatist militants destroy the local task. It consists of the first 2,5, 21 Mountain Division and artillery brigades. The first of 5 Mountain Division was formed before World War II veteran troops in 1962 were immediately airlifted to Assam to fight it, in the war situation eased after the manner adapted for the Mountain Division, closely follow southern Tibet. No. 4 Army in 1962 was defeated in the conflict, our armed forces and prisoners were captured mainly from the first four Army obtained.

3rd Army is responsible for neighboring Myanmar, Nagaland, Manipur, directly under the central zones of the defense, under the jurisdiction of 23 Infantry Division, 57 Mountain Division and an artillery brigade, can be regarded as second-line troops southern Tibet.

From January 2008 onwards, India's eastern headquarters began to build two new establishment of the Mountain Division. These two divisions of their respective strength 14000 people, will be equipped with India's most advanced weapons.

Indian Army on the list to No. 4 layout, indicating that it was still afraid of the Chinese armed forces will be like in 1962, as interludes to surround and annihilate its main, but the 33 most powerful army in the fighting the 17th Mountain Division stationed at Nathu La on the 40 kilometers south of Department, the first 20,27 Mountain Division deployed in the second-line, showing that the Indian Army on the 17th Mountain Division's combat strength is highly confident.

Further, Indian Ministry of the Interior and the ** "government in exile" Sheriff's Department handled the one, "Indo-Tibetan Border Police Force", the current strength of about 1.4 million people. Officers above the battalion level force for the Indians, with the following officers and soldiers are defecting Tibetans. India's Ministry of the Interior praised its "adapt to the highland terrain environment, will speak native language, is a rare paramilitary forces."

India put all of the 10 Mountain Division on the east line 7, indicating that its main imaginary mountain army building is China.

Northern Command

Face to face is the army command in northern West line, here, opposite the Ali region of China and Pakistan-controlled Kashmir, poor natural conditions. Local Siachen glacier in northern Indian subcontinent and China watershed. Since 1947, after the outbreak of the Kashmir dispute between India and Pakistan, here is always a confrontation between the world's highest battlefield, where India and Pakistan both have massive and bloody battle on many occasions.

In this no man's land forces and piercing winds in the cost of very expensive, and all supplies needed air. This alone, India spend hundreds of millions of dollars each year. Even so, a task down, the soldiers usually have to drop the weight of 20 kg or so, many people hair gray, looking ashen, trembling. So far, more than 1 Indian soldier crippled by frostbite and avalanches, more than 2,000 soldiers were killed.

Sino-Indian border in the western sector, due to the complexity of the Kashmir issue, the Indian army's deployment of the "anti-Pakistan" and "anti-China" doublethink. Army Northern Command, including 14,15,17 3. The first 15 of the task of the military against China more, it is India's three "most front-line units," one of a direct threat to Pakistan and China as the sole overland throat Karakoram Highway.

14th Army troops face the weaker is the Kargil between India and Pakistan over the disputed Kashmir region and our Ali region, presiding over the 3rd Infantry Division and 8 Mountain Division, the first of three pilots and the military confrontation.

As the west line of the three Army need to address the armored forces and the mountains from Pakistan, the threat of force, so often stretched on the strength of feeling, combined with deep terrain, logistics, there is no advantage in comparison with our army, so the threat of our military not as good as eastern front remarkable.

India's mountain artillery

Indian Mountain Artillery Corps was established by the British in 1962, the Sino-Indian border conflict in the army attack on Tawang, India No. 7 Mountain Artillery with Zeng Yi Tawang India garrison artillery support. Even after the first four mortars, 34 heavy mortar company, 5th Field Artillery Regiment, 22nd Mountain Artillery Regiment and 6th Field Artillery Regiment, the implementation of the support. Walung direction of India's first 17 Parachute Field Artillery Regiment, and 71 heavy mortar with the war.

In 1962, India conducted large-scale reorganization of the artillery. In 1966, the second India-Pakistan war and in 1971 the third India-Pakistan war, are doing so well. Bombardment in the 1999 Kargil, the Indian once made is split into parts large-caliber machine guns down the snow, and then assembled together and the Pakistani military manpower to the fire. His style of tough, no longer the lowly image of 1962.

Mountain infantry equipment

Indian mountain infantry equipment is not so special, such as South Africa, AGS-17 grenade launchers, AK-47, VZ58, L1A1, INSAS and other automatic rifles, SVD sniper rifles, FN machine guns and INSAS machine guns and so on, some units are still preserved Bren light machine gun. Indian armed forces tend to buy European countries, rocket launchers, such as the Carl Gustav of Sweden and Spain C90 rocket launcher. The firepower of infantry units of their army basic level or slightly higher than, while the support and suppression of fire over our military.

It is noteworthy that the mountain is not necessarily more advanced weapons, the better. Take Pakistan Army experience, "Here, we need an old friend" is a popular Pakistani army soldiers in front of a mantra, which means that they do not like the use of advanced weapons, they would rather use their own familiar weapons.

The last century, the late 80s, a Pakistani army official whim, bought the Minimi light machine guns from Belgium sent to Siachen Glacier. The Pakistani military, however, gunmen wearing gloves, wearing gloves was found, the finger into the machine gun trigger extension does not care bow-ri (if you do not wear gloves, 10 fingers must frostbite necrosis). And the Minimi is a small-caliber machine gun, bullet weight is very small, in the alpine region of the complex flow in the no precision at all. The degree of instability caused by the front-line Pakistani military mind had to put an old friend MG3 invited back. Mountain is not only difficult to predict the wind shear, and the air temperature, humidity, and the plain areas are different, resulting in a completely different trajectory. The plains to the snow-capped mountains on the sharpshooters will often off target, need to re-train. These issues are the choice of weapons and equipment have a great impact.

In addition, military personnel stationed on the glacier less than a last resort, generally does not use explosive weapons, as a huge explosion may cause an avalanche. This is Pakistani soldiers what they were feeling.

Indian mountain infantry rather special equipment is a helmet, which consists of a circle made of steel, thickness 6-7 mm, with the shroud of fabric wrapped his head unprotected. In other armed forces have never seen such a helmet may be in India due to shortage of funds and the "cottage" out of a equipment. Part of the Indian mountain infantry helmet is also equipped with M88.

Vest-style portable fixtures and integrated body armor is popular goods on the international market, the price is not high, so in India, the basic universal first-line of mountain troops. TNI also equipped with a cold mountainous region of mountain infantry camouflage, boots. Some troops even directly using commercially available brands of professional Dengshan Xue, leggings. Although it looks less formal, but highly targeted to ensure that the unit's combat effectiveness.

International military generally recognized Indian mountain combat capability of the troops came in the world, investment in and construction for years and there are successes. However, Sino-Indian border belongs to the Himalayan mountain range, in most regions of topography, climate is not suitable for human survival. Therefore, even if it is only India's mountain infantry to the border on the show of force, we must face significant casualties, it is no training or equipment can not be avoided. Yuan Feng

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby VijayKumarSinha » 02 Jan 2010 05:04

^^^^

If thats for me than thanks Gagan, bhat my madarsa education did inbholve phinding the bhandars of Golgol translate.
Getting the actual text from the picture was the hard part, thanks to rajkhalsa for providing that.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Gagan » 02 Jan 2010 07:17

VijayKumarSinha wrote:^^^^

bhat my madarsa education did inbholve phinding the bhandars of Golgol translate.

Indeed Golgol translation.
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Postby Omar » 02 Jan 2010 11:36

Curious photo that got my attention. The caption of this photo reads:

Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus tours Naval Dockyard Mumbai and Western Naval Command in Mumbai, India, Nov. 27, 2009. Mabus is on a four-day visit in India meeting with the country's naval and military leaders.


The light blue placard on the leftside of the table reads "Western Modules/PCBs- Under Repair" and the one on the right reads "Russian Modules/PCBs-Under Repair". This looks like a weird inspection.

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Postby Aditya G » 05 Jan 2010 00:16

Image

Gen PC Katoch. Any more decorations and he would have to wear them on the back.

I still dont know whats the badge on top-left chest.

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Postby pralay » 05 Jan 2010 01:41

I just made this wallpaper and wanted to share it,
But I am not sure if this is the correct thread.
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EDITED: the m-16 is replaced now, but i still need a better image
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Postby Rahul M » 05 Jan 2010 01:43

change the M-16 !! :shock:

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby pgbhat » 05 Jan 2010 01:47

We need Insas.
The helmet does not look like PASGT. :mrgreen:

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Postby sunny y » 05 Jan 2010 01:48

Good job Sameer but as already said replace the M-16 with INSAS & the helmet with our very own Patka.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby pgbhat » 05 Jan 2010 01:50

Also newbie question :oops: do IA use dog tags like the one on the M-16 above for its soldiers?
edit: The color is awesome in the wall paper above.

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Postby pralay » 05 Jan 2010 01:55

I tried to search a good resolution copy of insas with patka helmet but was not able to find it on google.
Does anyone have its image? I can update the wallpaper then

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Postby Riza Zaman » 05 Jan 2010 01:58

Aditya G wrote:Image

Gen PC Katoch. Any more decorations and he would have to wear them on the back.

I still dont know whats the badge on top-left chest.


Saw the same badge on a NSG officer, not sure what it is. I'm guessing it's a foreign badge (not US tho).

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Postby pralay » 05 Jan 2010 02:42

ok I have updated the wallpaper,
but still if anyone have better resolution image plz post it.

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Postby Riza Zaman » 05 Jan 2010 03:19

Riza Zaman wrote:
Aditya G wrote:Image

Gen PC Katoch. Any more decorations and he would have to wear them on the back.

I still dont know whats the badge on top-left chest.


Saw the same badge on a NSG officer, not sure what it is. I'm guessing it's a foreign badge (not US tho).


Here's a photo of a NSG officer with the same badge below the salad bar ... someone id the damn thing

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Nikhil T » 05 Jan 2010 03:36

Para-drop qualified.

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Postby Aditya G » 05 Jan 2010 08:56

Nikhil T wrote:Para-drop qualified.


Thats the conventional parachute badge - if I were to hazard a guess these officers with the winged-star badges are qualified from a Russian school.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby sum » 05 Jan 2010 08:58

US Ranger school qualified?

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Rahul M » 05 Jan 2010 09:41

Aditya G wrote:
Nikhil T wrote:Para-drop qualified.


Thats the conventional parachute badge - if I were to hazard a guess these officers with the winged-star badges are qualified from a Russian school.

doesn't look to be a para badge. some of our soldiers qualified with russi/soviet SF courses. if people remember the stuck ropeway rescue at mussoorie from late 80's, the army officer who conducted the actual rescue was just back from a recently completed SF course in russia.

all soviet paratrooper badges look more or less like this, quite different from the winged star in that pic.
http://www.collect-militaria.com/user_i ... 267298.jpg

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Postby Bala Vignesh » 05 Jan 2010 09:45

Is it possible that it is an instructor qualified bade??? Cause i can see them only on the senior personnel (both commissioned and junior commissioned officers )...

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Postby Riza Zaman » 05 Jan 2010 19:07

Rahul M wrote:if people remember the stuck ropeway rescue at mussoorie from late 80's, the army officer who conducted the actual rescue was just back from a recently completed SF course in russia.


You're referring to Major (later Col.) Crasto and cable car incident at Parwanoo ... iirc he has since left the army (maybe retired) and joined the hospitality management field - in Goa, I think?
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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby sunilUpa » 05 Jan 2010 19:26

The badge worn by NSG commando appears to be this clicky

However the badge worn by Gen.Katoch appears to be different, a star with wings?

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Postby Riza Zaman » 05 Jan 2010 19:40

sunilUpa wrote:The badge worn by NSG commando appears to be this clicky

However the badge worn by Gen.Katoch appears to be different, a star with wings?


They're wearing the same badge ...

The badge in question is circled in red in both pics for simplicity's sake:

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Postby Surya » 05 Jan 2010 19:46

Riza -

drop me a line at balaji_b4 at garam mail

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby sunilUpa » 05 Jan 2010 19:51

Riza Zaman wrote:
sunilUpa wrote:The badge worn by NSG commando appears to be this clicky

However the badge worn by Gen.Katoch appears to be different, a star with wings?


They're wearing the same badge ...

The badge in question is circled in red in both pics for simplicity's sake:


Ahhh sorry I was looking at the wrong badge in case of NSG commando. Thanks.


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