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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby vijyeta » 22 Feb 2010 22:54

Surya wrote:Years ago a smart BR webmaster noticed the AN 32's ability - After almost 8 yrs we get to see it :mrgreen:


This should not be a surprise - the IAF was also aware of the AN-12's potential as a bomber.
Here is the BR article -

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Histo ... n-12s.html

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby rohitvats » 23 Feb 2010 01:02

Wow!!!!!!!Amazing pics....only if IAF learns a bit of PR and comes out with posters+calendars with these beautiful pics....tose Bison pics have just gone to my desktop...... :D

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Surya » 23 Feb 2010 02:22

vijayeta

not sure what you are saying

Assuming you meant An 32

potential is fine but long before it was mentioned in public this person was aware of the potential becoming reality

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby vavinash » 23 Feb 2010 02:29

REad the article he posted. He is talking about An-12 only.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Surya » 23 Feb 2010 02:37

Read it long ago

whats the context to my post of knowing that AN 32 was being configured with bomb racks??

anyway OT for this thread -

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Gerard » 23 Feb 2010 02:50

Jagan wrote:(And of course eat crow soup if wrong)


Could be worse... you could be shopping for tons of mithai

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Jagan » 23 Feb 2010 07:01

Gerard wrote:
Jagan wrote:(And of course eat crow soup if wrong)


Could be worse... you could be shopping for tons of mithai


well I dont doubt for one minute that an-32s can carry bombs. so thats moot.

but this pic - i am not really convinced.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby bodhi » 23 Feb 2010 09:00

neeraj wrote:Vayu Shakti 2010

Firepower

Source Chindits


What is the ~diameter of the target area?

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby AshokS » 23 Feb 2010 09:30

Any guesses? Strange commuter or a FLIR gimbal? It came in from flying over a forest area with known naxals.

AshokS wrote:Can anyone identify this bird? Look at the nose, at the spherical protrusion. ..not sure if its military or commercial, but looks odd..

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Rahul M » 23 Feb 2010 10:43

perhaps one of the ISRO birds ?

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Pratik_S » 23 Feb 2010 11:59

Natt wrote:The badge on the chest with parachute between the wings is a qualified parajumper badge in both the pictures, it is the same badge. The 'eagle badge' on the Garud on the left sleeve (eagle only, on the top) is an AIR FORCE badge. All IAF personnel wear that badge, airmen and officers alike. The eagle with the cross-swords on the bottom half of the left sleeve is the 'garud' badge, worn only by the garud force of the IAF.


No bro, see the difference in the chest patches of the Para and the Garud. Para has blue angle wings. The patch of garud is has more realistic wings.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Pratik_S » 23 Feb 2010 12:02

I remember the mission udaan episode in which they covered the An-32, they said it is capable of dropping bombs.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Aditya G » 23 Feb 2010 12:30

Anybody know what type of bomb this is? Made in India?

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Manish Jain » 23 Feb 2010 13:21

rohitvats wrote:Wow!!!!!!!Amazing pics....only if IAF learns a bit of PR and comes out with posters+calendars with these beautiful pics....tose Bison pics have just gone to my desktop....


IAF does come out with calenders. I've seen a couple in my son's school but unfortunately, I have no idea from where the school got hold of those calenders. Will ask around the school and see if someone can guide me.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Natt » 23 Feb 2010 13:49

smpratik wrote:
Natt wrote:The badge on the chest with parachute between the wings is a qualified parajumper badge in both the pictures, it is the same badge. The 'eagle badge' on the Garud on the left sleeve (eagle only, on the top) is an AIR FORCE badge. All IAF personnel wear that badge, airmen and officers alike. The eagle with the cross-swords on the bottom half of the left sleeve is the 'garud' badge, worn only by the garud force of the IAF.


No bro, see the difference in the chest patches of the Para and the Garud. Para has blue angle wings. The patch of garud is has more realistic wings.


The Indian Air Force and the Indian Army use different looking brevets for their qualified para jumpers. The army uses the one with the blue wings whereas the Air Force like all its other badges uses white wings. Therefore a badge of a para-commando( Army) will look different than a badge of a para qualified garud (air force). The only thing they convey is the person wearing is a qualified jumper. There are yet different badges for para jumper instructors.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Natt » 23 Feb 2010 13:53

IAF comes out with brilliant PR stuff, you should see the calenders, post cards etc. I had a HUGE collection of many years. All kinds stuff from mugs, to envelops and even those name stickers which we used yo put on our neatly (brown) covered notebooks in school. A lot of stuff is available at the Air force Museum gift shop at Palam.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby vipins » 23 Feb 2010 14:14

They give posters n stickers free of cost in IITF (trade fair) in Delhi....calenders for around 30-40 Rs.

some posters i got in 2007 trade fair
http://img132.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=dsc00280xz.jpg

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby rohitvats » 23 Feb 2010 14:18

^^^ I'm quite aware of the same and myself have( used to have actually) lot of this stuff. But the point is this: there are no outlets where you can go and buy this stuff. Bangalore is home to AF Training Command. Can I go to a designated counter and buy this/related stuff? answer is no. IAF tends to come out with limited number of items of various kind which tend to get distributed amongst a small group.

IAF coming out with these things for internal/limited distribution versus this stuff being available to aam junta are two different things. I'd give an arm and limb to get scale models of IAF fighters but they aren't available. Same for other stuff.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby D Roy » 23 Feb 2010 14:51

Okay I am in agreement with Jagan,

that An-32 photo looks photoshopped.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby tsarkar » 23 Feb 2010 15:42

Aditya – If memory serves right, 450 kg bomb with Tail Unit 1111 in both photos. Yes, OFB.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Rupak » 23 Feb 2010 16:31

Indeed the An-32 photo seems photoshopped. The bomb equipped aircraft carry bombs on the fwd and aft fuselage. Bombs carried internally would have been crated for safety and you would have seen the crates fall away upon release.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Victor » 23 Feb 2010 18:34

Rupak wrote: Bombs carried internally would have been crated for safety and you would have seen the crates fall away upon release.

Unless that thing under the fuselage is an external bomb rack.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby krishnan » 23 Feb 2010 18:49

It doesnt look PSed to me. There seems to be a weapons bay opened up

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Jagan » 23 Feb 2010 18:55

final
krishnan wrote:There seems to be a weapons bay opened up


the weapons bay in this case is nothing but the cargo bay. and as rupak said, there should be other stuff falling out of the rear.

To me the clincher is that all the bombs are neatly lined up , straight and closely bunched together while falling. an arrangement impossible to achieve when they are thrown out of the back.

The bombs are ejected out of the cargo bay just as supplies are dropped. how fast and how straight does that have to happen to get the bomb spread shown above?

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby krishnan » 23 Feb 2010 19:00

BTW i see some gray patch like stuff around the first bomb near the AN

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby vipins » 23 Feb 2010 19:03

krishnan wrote:BTW i see some gray patch like stuff around the first bomb near the AN
yes some thing light sky bluish

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby krishnan » 23 Feb 2010 19:05

Jagan wrote:final
krishnan wrote:There seems to be a weapons bay opened up


the weapons bay in this case is nothing but the cargo bay. and as rupak said, there should be other stuff falling out of the rear.

To me the clincher is that all the bombs are neatly lined up , straight and closely bunched together while falling. an arrangement impossible to achieve when they are thrown out of the back.

The bombs are ejected out of the cargo bay just as supplies are dropped. how fast and how straight does that have to happen to get the bomb spread shown above?


http://cursor.org/images/civ_ill.jpg

http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/milestones- ... A00087.jpg

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Surya » 23 Feb 2010 19:07

Jagan


Maybe we should ask Aroor or someone who went for FPD- If this was done at the FPD someone should have seen it.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby neeraj » 23 Feb 2010 19:08

Tons of Vayushakti 2010 pics
http://livefist.blogspot.com/

Looks like the Floggers are flying as well :D

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Rahul M » 23 Feb 2010 19:26

it's very clearly a PS job. the cg of free fall bombs would very quickly turn them nose down in flight, it's clearly not the case here. look at the F-16 pic for comparison, the bombs are parallel to the aircraft which released them in a dive, there's no way a cargo bay ejection at slow speed would impart the same profile.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby neeraj » 23 Feb 2010 19:34

Classic Desktop wallpaper (from Vayushakti 2010)
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Bigger resolution here

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Surya » 23 Feb 2010 19:51

Rahul

the An 32 would not release it in a dive.

So that does not conclusively say its PSed.

I think we still need to know how the AN 32 carries the bombs

racks? crates?

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby rohitvats » 23 Feb 2010 20:09

neeraj wrote:Tons of Vayushakti 2010 pics
http://livefist.blogspot.com/

Looks like the Floggers are flying as well :D


Dude, many thanks for the link.

Man, there is some serious photography talent in the Defence Services.

Great to see the Defence Services handing out such snaps from excercises.....it is great PR value. And help satiate the appetite of jingoes..... :D

Jokes apart, this is the first time I'm seeing a flogger with LGB mounted. Any idea what the targeting pod is in case of Floggers? Also, the IAF seems to be using some software for route planning.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby rakall » 23 Feb 2010 20:13

rohitvats wrote:
neeraj wrote:Tons of Vayushakti 2010 pics
http://livefist.blogspot.com/

Looks like the Floggers are flying as well :D


Dude, many thanks for the link.

Man, there is some serious photography talent in the Defence Services.

Great to see the Defence Services handing out such snaps from excercises.....it is great PR value. And help satiate the appetite of jingoes..... :D

Jokes apart, this is the first time I'm seeing a flogger with LGB mounted. Any idea what the targeting pod is in case of Floggers? Also, the IAF seems to be using some software for route planning.


Litening LDP is part of the cpmprehensive upgrade that the Floggers got.. Google for Mig27 upgrade - lot of info avialable. Look for "LDP" and "new weapons" in the upgrade brochures
Lot of DARE developed avoinics, RWR, SPJ etc were all first trialled on Floggers..

It would be a shame if they pulled the Floggers out of fire power demo.. wud have been nice to see the floggers flog the targets with LGB's..
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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby K_Rohit » 23 Feb 2010 20:15

Upgraded flogger in action at Vayushakti. One of the first pics of this. (since its carrying a PGM)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_o_no4M2xEPY/S ... 772519.JPG


Edit: looks like rohit and rakall beat me to it.
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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby rohitvats » 23 Feb 2010 20:16

rakall wrote: LDP is part of the cpmprehensive upgrade that the Floggers got.. Google for Mig27 upgrade - lot of info avialable. Look for "LDP" and "new weapons" in the upgrade brochures. Lot of DARE developed avoinics, RWR, SPJ etc were all first trialled on Floggers.......


Thank you...actually was being lethargic..... i remember reading about the upg programme....:P

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Kakarat » 23 Feb 2010 20:19

I have a pic of An-32 dropping bombs
will find it and post it

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Jagan » 23 Feb 2010 20:23

Surya wrote:Rahul

the An 32 would not release it in a dive.

So that does not conclusively say its PSed.

I think we still need to know how the AN 32 carries the bombs

racks? crates?


not exactly crates - but boards is more like the correct explanaition.

There are external bomb racks as well for the An-32

I remember one of the recently published AFMs featuring the Bangladesh Air Force shows an An-32 with external bomb racks ith bombs mounted on them. essentially four bomb rails two front, two in the rear fuselage carrying four bombs.. I remember the pic was also posted here.

that said, I am yet to see a pic of IAF An-32 with bombs on its external bombracks.

There was a FPD in which the An-32's bombingwas displayed and can you believe it not one picture or footage emerged out of that !


Kakarat wrote:I have a pic of An-32 dropping bombs
will find it and post it


That would be awesome!

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Kakarat » 23 Feb 2010 20:25

An-32 bombing think it is from FPD
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