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AshokS wrote:I saw an IL-76 ? large transport with a refueling probe land yesterday, somewhere in the east region.... I am guessing it was a air to air refueling tanker.
Which way was the probe pointing, forward or backward? Or perhaps you mean refuelling pod?
It was at the front, facing forward,like normal refueling probes. It wasn't the refueling pod. Which IL-76s does the IAF have with the refueling probe in the front? I know the Phalcon does, what about the normal tankers?
I havent seen any IAF big birds with permanently extended refuelling probes which would allow them to take in fuel themselves...does anybody have any pics of that? paging Jagman....
Tried to look up if there were any examples of IL76's attached with refueling probes elsewhere but nothing came up in any of the search engines..
Is IAF trying something new here???
Dmurphy wrote:Can someone ID these guys who are providing security at the Hockey world cup?
Are you sure that they are for Hockey World Cup because they seem to belong to some paramilitary force & based on what we have been reading in newspapers nobody else but Delhi Police is providing security for this world cup...I have seen a pic where Delhi Police QRT is taking part in a mock drill in Dhyanchand Stadium...Can't find it right now....will try to dig it out.....
why the preference of black patkas over helmets? I find patkas completely useless, they should really provide bullet proof helmets to soldiers/commandos.
pali wrote:why the preference of black patkas over helmets? I find patkas completely useless, they should really provide bullet proof helmets to soldiers/commandos.
Pali saab, have you YOURSELF, used a Patka In battle??? If not, then I suggest going through the CT/Coint Thread where adequate discussions were held about effective uses of Patkas vs Helmets!
^^^ that is a bandana. I know a patka is a similar object but in this context it is better to avoid the confusion with this http://www.securemobileindia.com/patka.htm
funny thing being that the so called bullet-proof helmet is not effective against the bullet that actually matters, AK-47's. the lowly patka however is proof against ak fire.
btw, it's not practical to wear a helmet all the time in our weather. there's a difference between reel life and real life.
Rahul M wrote:^^^ that is a bandana. I know a patka is a similar object but in this context it is better to avoid the confusion with this http://www.securemobileindia.com/patka.htm
funny thing being that the so called bullet-proof helmet is not effective against the bullet that actually matters, AK-47's. the lowly patka however is proof against ak fire.
btw, it's not practical to wear a helmet all the time in our weather. there's a difference between reel life and real life.
Yes. I think this bandana can be considered the equivalent of the hat or cap that Western Forces use. You cannot always move around wearing helmets in hot and humid weather. I remember, during the 2002 Aksharadham attack, the NSG commandos all wore bandanas and no helmets (atleast the pics showed them without helmets). I wonder why!
atreya wrote: I remember, during the 2002 Aksharadham attack, the NSG commandos all wore bandanas and no helmets (atleast the pics showed them without helmets). I wonder why!
That may be because of what RahulM said regarding most helmets. Even the PASGT helmets used till recently by US Army were effective only against 9mm. So perhaps the helmets used by NSG at that time were also ineffective against AK-47.
BTW, does someone know the protection level provided by the new MICH helmets and Lightweight Helmets being used by US Army?
the bandana also doubles as a hanky.... with sweat pouring over the eyes, the bandana is a good thing to have. keeps the hands and eyes dry. very useful...
Dmurphy wrote:Can someone ID these guys who are providing security at the Hockey world cup?
Are you sure that they are for Hockey World Cup because they seem to belong to some paramilitary force & based on what we have been reading in newspapers nobody else but Delhi Police is providing security for this world cup...I have seen a pic where Delhi Police QRT is taking part in a mock drill in Dhyanchand Stadium...Can't find it right now....will try to dig it out.....
Dmurphy wrote:Can someone ID these guys who are providing security at the Hockey world cup?
Are you sure that they are for Hockey World Cup because they seem to belong to some paramilitary force & based on what we have been reading in newspapers nobody else but Delhi Police is providing security for this world cup...I have seen a pic where Delhi Police QRT is taking part in a mock drill in Dhyanchand Stadium...Can't find it right now....will try to dig it out.....
Sunny sir,
its a multi layer system for the security for the hockey world cup comprising of delhi police, "commandos", and "paramilitary forces" ( the forces are as quoted by STOI)... And based on the force levels quoted i guess the Delhi Police forms the outer perimeter....
pali wrote:patkas can stop AK fire!! that's news to me
Pali go a couple a posts back and Rahul and posted a link for you..obviously you have not read it.. I ll do it again. Please, this time, make an effort, click on it and read it. http://www.securemobileindia.com/patka.htm
Jagan wrote:Drill Purpose Rifles. (White band).. i guess don't want a stray bullet knocking some VIP's hat off..
Jagan recall the comment (perhaps on BR) that one of the problems in a massive R day military parade is to ensure that every firearm carrying man in the marching columns goes through security to ensure that live munitions are not being somehow smuggled in.
shiv wrote:massive R day military parade is to ensure that every firearm carrying man in the marching columns goes through security to ensure that live munitions are not being somehow smuggled in.
I can understand that. infact I am sure the rifles carried during RD are real ones and not DP. perhpas Ray can confirm that?
These DP rifles are of no use even if someone gets hold of live ammo!
bala .. security at hockey world cup is very funny... there are all kinds of uniforms just standing laizily all over.. if there are 5 spectators then there are at least 500 police chaps... even NSG is there with their vehicles... i think the total security folks can easily fill the stadium.. !!!
Raja Bose wrote:Who is the fella with Nachiketa? Is Nachiketa flying transports now?
yes he sustained a spinal injury during the bail-out and had to shift from fighters to transport. last I read of him in press, he was flying An-32's in the eastern sector. they said he would convert to the IL-76 and seems he has, to the '78. and it's Wg Cmdr Nachiketa now !
good to see all's well with him.
srini, his mig-27 flamed out during a firing run in kargil campaign and on bailing out he was captured by the TSPians. after a couple of weeks (IIRC) of a nation waiting anxiously given the fates of other POW's with TSP like Capt Kalia he was returned by the pakis.
shiv wrote:
massive R day military parade is to ensure that every firearm carrying man in the marching columns goes through security to ensure that live munitions are not being somehow smuggled in.
As a precautionary measure firing pin is removed from the rifles.
SriniY wrote:Who is Commander Nachiketa, could some one elaborate .
I am sorry but I have to ask. Did you follow the kargil war at all??
Not knowing the names of Sdr Ldr Ajay Ahuja, (then) Flt. Lt. Nachiketa and Capt. Saurabh Kalia is unpardonable.