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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby AjayKK » 08 Oct 2008 11:27

Meanwhile,
sanjaychoudhry wrote:Meanwhile, the nun who alleged to the press that she was gang-raped by Hindu goons has done the dissappearing act and is nowhere to be found. Orissa goverment seems to have traced her to Delhi. The police want to question her, but she is not accessible!!


On Saturday , the To-Let Paper reported the nun- r@pe on the first page in BIG SIZE and carried a pic alongside.

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Today :

A CLARIFICATION: The picture carried with the Orissa rape story on the front page of TOI last Saturday was that of a participant in the protests against the recent attacks on churches. We apologise if it has caused any misunderstanding.


http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/ ... =HTML&GZ=T

The paper has started its usual techniques.

Only it hasnt used a 'High Commission' of some country as it did openly in 2002 with the help of the U.K comm. to get to ' condemn the massacre' 0f ' 2000 Muslims killed fanatically' ( since then, number of dead has ' increased ' to 2500. ).

The rent-a-page paper's new crusade is to confuse the reader about terrorism by planting stories claiming ' un-named sources in the home ministry confided to the Times that....... '

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby AjayKK » 08 Oct 2008 11:32

From

http://barbarindians.blogspot.com/

First, let's analyze the TOI report in question. On Oct 3, this report was first published, headlined: Medical report suggests nun raped; probe ordered, and can be still accessed from google cache. The screenshot (A) is the cached report, which has this to say:

"The woman was medically examined and the report received by us suggests possibility of rape," Kandhamal Superintendent of Police Praveen Kumar told. According to the report of the nun's medical examination, there was no external or internal vaginal injury, but semen was found inside. The nun's clothes have been sent for tests to the state forensic laboratory.


Note the "suggests" part. Note the mention of no injuries that could definitively establish sexual assault.

On October 4, the same article was mysteriously modified. The headline now reads:

38 days later, Orissa govt admits nun's rape.


It is incomprehensible that a third party can actually "admit" to something that happened between a perp and a victim, but nevertheless this "admission" has evoked euphoric reaction in the Commie circles.

The modified report now claims there were injuries consistent with sexual assault.

The nun did not allege rape initially, but later mentioned that she had been raped by one person, in an FIR. Various news reports now claim that she was gangraped. Initial reports suggested the possibility of rape or rather "the report did not rule out rape" and "no injuries but semen was present". By now, the Nun was brutally gangraped by a mob and medical reports incontrovertibly establishing rape have surfaced.


Screenshots at the blog http://barbarindians.blogspot.com/

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby AjayKK » 08 Oct 2008 14:55

MH terror update

The terrorists caught in Mumbai planned to explode bombs around 26 of this month to cause maximum fatalities.

Meanwhile in Dhule which is 50 KM from Malegaon , the situation still remains tense.
The ROP adherents burnt a rubber factory and overturned 2,4 wheelers and set in on fire.
A ROP police constable, m pathan is involved .
Logistical and hathyar support by raees kazi, NCP neta whose house was raided by the police


Meanwhile, the police intercepted a Mahindra Scorpio (MH -21 C-1924) during a nakabandi at galli no7 in Deopur area of Dhule, early on Tuesday. The vehicle was allegedly carrying 35 swords, some lathis and some more ammunition. A police constable’s involvement in the smuggling of the weapons is suspected by the police.

The vehicle was coming from Malegaon and heading into Dhule city, according to police sources.The riots were reported to be spreading to villages around Dhule.

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1196403


In Rabodi, Thane, as per news, the protestor who was shot dead (mohshin khan) was firing on the police and in an act of foolishnes, ran after DCP Sahebrao Patil with petrol bomb. Before he could come near the DCP, he was sent up.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Singha » 08 Oct 2008 15:56

one of the 3 IM media cell pune techies caught was working as a principal engg in a MNC.
does anyone have details of which one? symantec is one co there and is surely a place
where a IM could pickup useful security skills.

these 3 apparently moved around mumbai hunting for unsecured wireless networks
and sent the emails when instructed.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby AjayKK » 08 Oct 2008 16:05

Mohammed Peerbhoy?
Yahoo. Brother is architect. Wife is doctor.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/peerb ... se/370659/

Last July, when this 31-year-old software engineer completed a course in ethical hacking and cyber crime, he posted his feedback on the website of the firm that hosted the programme: “Mind boggling,”wrote Mohammed Mansoor Asghar Peerbhoy, or Mannu. “Really unleashes the power of information.”

A software architect at the Pune office of the Yahoo! India-owned firm Zimbra, Mansoor attended the six-day course on network security at Internet security solutions firm E2Labs in Banjara Hills, Hyderabad. "It was a one-time crash course on network security, and Mansoor had already done some courses on the subject," said a spokesperson for E2Labs. The course included training in protection of information security, cyber law, phishing, hacking, identity theft and online fraud.

A senior officer of the Mumbai Police Crime Branch confirmed that this was being investigated.

Peerbhoy’s brother Adil, who works as an architect, told The Indian Express, “We came to know about the allegations against Mansoor only yesterday from the press. We have never heard of any Riyaz Bhatkal or the other names being mentioned. My family is going through a very tough time now. We want to verify details ourselves, only then will we be able to say anything."”

Colleagues at the eSpace IT Park office of Zimbra refused to speak about the man who Mumbai Police have said earned Rs 19 lakh a year, an official spokesperson for Yahoo! India said: “We are very concerned about these events and will fully cooperate with the law enforcement agencies, consistent with local laws.”

Zimbra, set up in California and taken over by Yahoo! India last year, offers the Zimbra Collaboration Suite software, a groupware product for messaging and collaboration, emailing, group calendars, web document management, etc. It also provides software to sync mobile devices.

The Mumbai Police have said Peerbhoy, an extraordinarily talented software developer and resident of Pune and belonging to a “highly educated family”, travelled several times to the United States on work.

Russian engineer Igor Sysoev, whose opensource software nginx is used by Zimbra, said in an emailed response to The Indian Express: "I know Mansoor as Zimbra developer because Zimbra software uses my opensource software nginx mail proxy server. However, I do personally and until now I do not even know his religious commitment."

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Rye » 08 Oct 2008 18:11

Amar and Mulayam does not stop with their police baiting unhindered by elementary ethics or a conscience.


http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=617519

Mulayam to raise encounter issue in UPA-SP meet

NEW DELHI, OCT 8 (PTI)
Samajwadi Party leader Amar Singh today met Prime Minister Manmohan Singh demanding a judicial probe into the Jamia Nagar encounter, but failed to get an assurance from him.

"I raised the issue for a judicial probe with the PM. But as I was not assured anything on it, my party chief Mulayam Singh Yadav will raise the issue during the UPA-SP coordination committee meeting likely on October 14," Singh told reporters outside the PMO.

He claimed the SP was concerned about the sense of insecurity gripping the minority community after the Jamia Nagar encounter. "The attacks on Muslims in Assam and violence against them in Maharashtra has created a sense of insecurity...The SP is concerned about it," he said.

Singh had an hour-long meeting with the Prime Minister in the presence of the National Security Advisor M K Narayanan this morning where they discussed the "attacks on the minority community" and the Indo-US nuclear deal.

The SP leader said he had not demanded the resignation of Home Minister Shivraj Patil following the encounter. "The media had raised questions on the authenticity of the encounter...I had only suggested that maintaining the Congress tradition, the Home Minister should step down pending a judicial probe," he said.

The SP leader maintained that if the judicial probe indicted those arrested after the encounter, "the police was free to shoot them. But they are innocent till proven guilty".

Amar Singh said he had offered to fund the legal expenses of those arrested in the encounter.

"Certain reports in the media had suggested that I was funding terror outfits, which is not the truth," he added.

He said that since those arrested in the encounter hail from Azamgarh, which is his hometown too, therefore he decided to support their legal expenditure.


"I have raised a voice to ensure that the minority communities don't feel unsafe and insecure... That is also our demand from the UPA government," he added.

The SP leader clarified that his intention was not to question the integrity of Delhi Police or the slain Inspector M C Sharma. "I was the first one to extend financial aid to the family of the slain official. They did not accept the aid but I would request them to do so," he said.

Singh dismissed BJP's demand that he should apologise to the nation for raising doubts over the veracity of the encounter, saying that media had raised doubts over the incident and he had reacted only to those reports.


Firstly, if Azamgarh is Amar Singh's hometown and has a large terrorist base, then Amar Singh must be involved or has been deliberately turning a blind eye to the terrorists in his hometown -- both are equivalent because it is a crime against the public to aid and abet terrorist groups, even if they share the same hometown with Amar Singh. Perhaps Amar and Mulayam need to explain why they are openly pimping for terrorist groups and their sympathizers and spitting on the police forces at the same time before proclaiming that they are not working for terrorist outfits. EVERY ACTION of Mulayam and Amar singh indicates that they are working for terrorist groups against the Indian police and government. These two smell and behave like agents of Pakistan's ISI operating in India.

Secondly, "the insecurity of the minorities" arises from the minority among them that are openly working with ISI, like all those jihadis in Azamgarh. Instead of using this occassion to increase a feeling of security by reducing the influence of these ISI jihadis on the muslim community, which would contribute to the increased security of the minorities -- these two "guardians of the Indian muslims" are taking a leaf out of Pakistani ISI's playbook and using this event to increase the hold of the rabid clergy on the "vote bank", which is after all the only think Mulayam and Amar care about.

If Mulayam Singh and Amar Singh just won't quit his police baiting and are actively working to destroy the credibility of the law and order machinery that provides security to the public at large, why should the public pay for the Z-category security of these two oiseaules?

Glad to see that the PM did not give any assurance to these two jokers on humiliating the Delhi Police.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby gandharva » 08 Oct 2008 18:36

Perhaps Amar and Mulayam need to explain why they are openly pimping for terrorist groups and their sympathizers and spitting on the police forces at the same time before proclaiming that they are not working for terrorist outfits. EVERY ACTION of Mulayam and Amar singh indicates that they are working for terrorist groups against the Indian police and government. These two smell and behave like agents of Pakistan's ISI operating in India.


Former spy master links ex-CM to ISI

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... 409947.cms

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Rye » 08 Oct 2008 21:37

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/amar- ... urn/370954

:shock: That's a rather rapid turnaround in the rhetoric of Amar Singh -- hope this is not just a tactical move and a real change in strategy/attitude of Amar Singh and the SP.

Gandharva, the book on MK Dhar does not mention these people, but maybe I overlooked it. I will read it again more carefully -- I did not see any reference to Samajwadi Party in that book.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 08 Oct 2008 21:48

I will read it again more carefully -- I did not see any reference to Samajwadi Party in that book.

IIRC, it all but names Shri.Mulayam as a ISI-agent...

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby svinayak » 08 Oct 2008 23:06

http://arasubalraj.blogspot.com/feeds/p ... results=25

This is the most dangerous problem in the country


Is there a communication breakdown in our society?



Yes.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Manu » 09 Oct 2008 03:41

Rye wrote:http://www.indianexpress.com/news/amar-sing-takes-u-turn/370954

:shock: That's a rather rapid turnaround in the rhetoric of Amar Singh -- hope this is not just a tactical move and a real change in strategy/attitude of Amar Singh and the SP.

Gandharva, the book on MK Dhar does not mention these people, but maybe I overlooked it. I will read it again more carefully -- I did not see any reference to Samajwadi Party in that book.


That's hardly a turn-around. Same Torn Shirt-Open Fly BS (Ban Simi, with "proof", but also Ban Bajrang Dal, just for equal=equal). UP is a Bimaru State. And Amar Singh and Mulayam are the warts on it's collective epidermis.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 09 Oct 2008 09:09

Surely, the Govt is aware of the growing anger amng the common folks since they have decided not to ban BD....

A few years earlier and it would have happened without batting a eye-lid.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Rye » 09 Oct 2008 09:17

Bajrang Dal needs to be under watch along with other groups with a tendency to get violent at the drop of a hat. Also, it appears that the only reason they are not going after BD yet is because doing so without building a watertight case against them is a complete waste of effort and time. They have plenty of evidence against SIMI over the past decade to convincingly shut them down with the backing of the courts. There is not enough data on Bajrang Dal according to news report, but one can be sure that if BD continues to indulge in arbitrary violence like they have done recently, they will face the same fate as SIMI....it will be only a matter of time before there is enough evidence to give them the hospitality of the State with meals and boarding.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Eshwar » 09 Oct 2008 09:27

sum wrote:Surely, the Govt is aware of the growing anger amng the common folks since they have decided not to ban BD....

A few years earlier and it would have happened without batting a eye-lid.


Sum, are you saying that the common folks are angry because the govmint did not ban BD? Or the govmint did not ban BD because common folks will be angry about it. It is difficult to get a sense of what people want in these cases. I guess the govmint should go ahead if they really have solid evidence against BD, if they dont have it, it will blow up on their face.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 09 Oct 2008 14:08

Eshwar wrote:
sum wrote:Surely, the Govt is aware of the growing anger amng the common folks since they have decided not to ban BD....

A few years earlier and it would have happened without batting a eye-lid.


Sum, are you saying that the common folks are angry because the govmint did not ban BD? Or the government did not ban BD because common folks will be angry about it. It is difficult to get a sense of what people want in these cases. I guess the govmint should go ahead if they really have solid evidence against BD, if they dont have it, it will blow up on their face.

Im saying that the sudden shrill calls for banning the BD looked like clear cut vote bank politics and was very obviously linked to banning of the SIMI( Indian secularism at work). People may not like the BD brand of violence but when you have the Pope and other country heads saying things like "Hindu terrorists causing bloodbaths,genocides etc", it rankles the ordinary hindu(the Indian ambassador to Italy was even summouned to be issued a demarche!!! :roll: ).

If going on the rampage in a state due to some severe provocation was a cause for banning a org, 1000s of orgs should have been banned till now which isnt the case and even the BD woyuldnt have attracted all the shouting if the SIMI wasnt banned....

However, If the BD persists with their style in a couple of other places(Karnataka was more of opposition ppl throwing stones at churches in Blore after the initial ransacking of newlife prayer halls in M'lore), they certainly deserve a stick. Me thinks that the BD would have learnt their lesson and will sit back with their tail between the legs after seeing the widespread outrage(unintended) they caused.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ashish raval » 09 Oct 2008 16:16

Violence in dhule getting worse.

http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/5585.html

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby G Subramaniam » 09 Oct 2008 20:50

ashish raval wrote:Violence in dhule getting worse.

http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/5585.html


From above url

Dhule riots: 1 Hindu burnt alive, 4 Hindu women gang raped!

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby SSridhar » 10 Oct 2008 06:52

Behind the Batala House shootout - Praveen Swami

In some sense, the allegations levelled over the encounter tell us more about the critics than the event itself. In part, the allegations have been driven by poor reporting and confusion — the product, more often than not, by journalists who have not followed the Indian Mujahideen story. More important, though, the controversy was driven by the Muslim religious right-wing whose myth-making, as politician Arif Mohammad Khan recently pointed out, has passed largely unchallenged.

In a recent article, the University of Delaware’s Director of Islamic Studies, Muqtedar Khan, lashed out at the “intellectually dishonest” representatives of Muslims who “live in denial.” “They first deny that there is such a thing as jihadi terrorism,” Dr. Khan noted, “resorting to conspiracy theories blaming every act of jihadi violence either on Israel, the U.S. or India. Then they argue that unjust wars by these three nations [in Palestine, Iraq and Kashmir] are the primary cause for jihadi violence; a phenomenon whose very existence they have already denied.”

It is easy to rip apart the pseudo-facts that drove the claim that the Jamia Nagar encounter was fake — or that the Indian Mujahideen is a fiction. Much political work, though, is needed to drain the swamps of denial and deceit in which the lies have bred.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 10 Oct 2008 08:36

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Terror trail links Kerala with Kashmir

Praveen Swami

Men shot dead in Lolab among dozens who have trained with Lashkar-e-Taiba since 2001

Police believe they were part of a group from Malappuram, holed out with a Lashkar unit

A Kerala-based SIMI organiser visited Sopore to help send the group to a Lashkar leader

NEW DELHI: Investigators believe two Kerala men shot dead near the Line of Control in northern Jammu and Kashmir earlier this week were on their way to a Lashkar-e-Taiba-run training camp in Pakistan.

Little headway has so far been made towards identifying the two killed men, but circumstantial evidence — including a forged election identification card and handwritten religious texts in Malayalam — suggests they were indeed from Kerala.

Based on reports from informants, the Jammu and Kashmir police believe the killed men were part of a group of at least five men from Kerala’s Malappuram district who had been holed out with a Lashkar unit in the Lolab mountains this past month, waiting for an opportunity to cross the LoC safely.

According to the police’s informants, the five men were part of a larger group of 15 which included Pakistanis and ethnic Kashmiris. While the five Kerala men hoped to cross the LoC to train at Lashkar-run camps in Pakistan, the other 10 were returning at the end of tours of duty in Jammu and Kashmir.

Jammu and Kashmir police sources also said a Kerala-based SIMI organiser visited the north Kashmir town of Sopore five months ago to make arrangements for sending the group to the local Lashkar commander, code-named Qari Usman.

If the police are correct, it is possible the five men were recruited from amongst 40-odd Kerala residents believed to have trained at a SIMI camp in the forests around Thangalpara in the small plantation town of Wagamon in the autumn of 2007.

SIMI members who attended the training camp, which was one of a series of similar gatherings held in Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh and Gujarat, received a basic combat-hardening education as well as the rudiments of bomb-making. Several suspects held in connection with the recent serial bombings in Gujarat, Rajasthan and New Delhi had participated in these camps — although none is thought to have gone on the train in Pakistan.
Training base

Peedical Abdul Shibli and his brother, Peedical Abdul Shaduli, who are alleged to have organised the training in Kerala, were arrested near Indore earlier this year.

Evidence has long existed that jihadists from across India are training with terror groups in Jammu and Kashmir.

As early as July 2001, police in Jalgaon arrested nine members of a SIMI-linked terror cell, who were alleged to have been preparing to bomb local offices of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad. Fourteen other cell members were later arrested from Kanpur, Hyderabad and New Delhi.

Several members of the cell, investigators found, had trained with the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen in Jammu and Kashmir. Three Jalgaon men — Sheikh Asif Supdu, Sheikh Khalid Iqbal and Sheikh Mohammad Hanif — are thought to have died in an encounter during their training in the remote mountains around Kishtwar, in Doda district.

Later, in 2002, at least six residents of Gujarat — from Ahmedabad, Bharuch and Surat — trained at joint Hizb-ul-Mujahideen-Lashkar bases in the Hil Kaka mountains, near the frontier town of Poonch. Most of the men had been recruited by Maulana Sufiyan Patangia — a shadowy figure central to the growth of the jihadist movement in the State after the 2002 communal massacres. Five of the group crossed the LoC to undergo advanced training while one, Munir Ahmad, was killed in an encounter with the Army.

In June, 2006, the Jammu and Kashmir police and the Army shot dead Maharashtra seminary student Mohammad Irfan near the town of Tral, in southern Kashmir. Irfan, whose family lives in the village of Mattaharam in Kolhapur district, was training with local Hizb-ul-Mujahideen cadre at the time of his death. Police in Maharashtra believed he joined the SIMI during his theological studies.

Later, in September, 2006, police in Gujarat arrested four students linked to the Dar-ul-Uloom Islamia Arabiyya seminary, on charges of sending local Islamists for training with the Lashkar-e-Taiba in the Poonch region of Jammu and Kashmir. A still-missing member of the ring, Mohammad Aslam Kashmiri, is believed to have arranged for the training of at least 12 men, including three with links to the terror cells which executed the 2006 serial bombings in Mumbai.

This article should stop all the BS in all channels about the first time any non-J&Kite has been killed in an encounter in J&K...

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Nayak » 10 Oct 2008 09:08

IT cos to keep tabs on techies
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First Published : 08 Oct 2008 04:44:00 AM IST
Last Updated : 08 Oct 2008 10:21:48 AM IST

HYDERABAD: Following a suggestion from intelligence agencies, police in various States, including Andhra Pradesh, are likely to issue fresh circulars to multinational companies asking them to focus not merely on security in and around their firms, but also initiate steps to have an in-house set-up to keep tabs on ‘‘suspicious and changed behaviour’’ among their employees, in particular, on ‘‘abnormally religious’’ staff.

The move comes in the wake of the arrests of several alleged terrorists of the outfit, Indian Mujahideen (IM), who were employed with major MNCs in the country. Top sources told Express that the software firms will be asked to have a separate in-house mechanism to keep a watch on employees.

‘‘We are asking them to focus more on the changed behaviour of their employees like going on long leaves citing religious purposes.We have come across instances wherein the IM modules cited religious reasons for proceeding on leave,’’ police officials said.

In fact, Mohammed Mansoor Asghar Peerbhoy, the key IM member and a software engineer, who was drawing Rs 19 lakh per annum, used to mention his spiritual experiences. The officials have also come out with a new ‘‘formula.’’ They also plan to ask the managements to observe reactions of their employees to news of blasts and arrests of terrorists.

‘‘We have also asked the States to hold meetings with software honchos to discuss these measures,’’ sources said.


I tell ya it those cunning jains/buddhists who should be closely watched.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 10 Oct 2008 10:15

HYDERABAD: Following a suggestion from intelligence agencies, police in various States, including Andhra Pradesh, are likely to issue fresh circulars to multinational companies asking them to focus not merely on security in and around their firms, but also initiate steps to have an in-house set-up to keep tabs on ‘‘suspicious and changed behaviour’’ among their employees, in particular, on ‘‘abnormally religious’’ staff.

Shocking violation of Human rights....!!!! :shock: :roll:

For every employee of "a partcular community" watched, keep an eye out on a employee visiting a temple to ensure proper secularism.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Rye » 10 Oct 2008 10:19

We may not have equal oppurtunity in education, what with OBC/SC/Creamy later with a cherry on top, or even equal civil rights for all citizens, but we can at least expect the government to suspect all of us of terrorist activity equally. This is a good day.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 10 Oct 2008 11:34

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Muslims helped crack Mumbai terror module
10 Oct 2008, 1010 hrs IST, Mateen Hafeez & Nitasha Natu,TNN

MUMBAI: Crime branch officials tracking terror suspects in Mumbai were sheltered by Muslim families in their homes for a few days. The undercover officers took the families into confidence and used their houses as bases to observe the movements of the suspects before zeroing in on them.

“They played a very important role by supporting us in our operation,’’ joint commissioner of police (crime) Rakesh Maria said. Several suspects who were picked up from Mumbai and the neighbouring districts stayed in Muslim-dominated areas. For the cops, it was very difficult to move around there without being noticed.

The police identified some families through their contacts in Kurla, Cheetah Camp, and Mumbra, where the officers were provided shelter by Muslim families. “We stayed there for two days, watched the movements of the suspects and kept passing on the information to the crime branch headquarters where senior officers worked on it,’’ a police officer said. The basic idea was to confirm the identities of the suspects before picking them up.

In one instance, an officer apparently shot pictures of a suspect with his cellphone and sent it to headquarters where it was shown to one of the arrested accused. “He confirmed the identity, after which the suspect was arrested,’’ the officer said.

What exactly is the point of the article?

Doesnt this reinforce the impression most common folks have these days that only a few "special" muslims will help out the law enforcement agencies? The very fact that a few muslims helping the police makes headlines suggests(rightfully or wrongly) that most of the community dont... :-?

Would we have such articles if the local hindus/sikhs/jains had helped the police in their investigations??

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 10 Oct 2008 11:38

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Muslim activists unite to shake off terror tag
10 Oct 2008, 0000 hrs IST, Mohammed Wajihuddin ,TNN
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MUMBAI: A section of Muslim NGOs and some intellectuals have rolled up sleeves to remove the terror tag increasingly being slapped on the communi
ty. The recent arrest of educated Muslim youths from Pune, Mumbai and other places across the country for allegedly running a terror module has deeply shocked the Muslim intelligentsia and social activists. To find out if the Muslim youth is really getting radicalised, two separate meetings are scheduled in the city on Friday and Saturday.

The talk on Friday, organised by Social Educational Welfare Association (SEWA), at Islam Gymkhana, Marine Lines, will see intellectuals and religious leaders from varied groups debate on ways out of the mess the Muslims find themselves in today.

"It will be a free and frank talk. The mandate is to gauge the feelings of the opinion makers in the community. The entire proceedings will be recorded and passed on to the governments, both in the Centre and the state," said Amin Parekh, general secretary, SEWA, an NGO which works for the educational and cultural advancement of the Muslims. Parekh clarified that the platform has nothing to do with any political party, though some of its office-bearers are also politicians.

Majlis-e-Shoora, another city-based socio-cultural organisation, has planned a day-long seminar at Saboo Siddique College near Nagpada police station on Saturday. Around 500 delegates from across Maharashtra will share their views on the issues of communalism and terrorism.

"It's to address the concern of the community on issues which are affecting them. Many former terror accused who have been let off by the courts will share their experiences. We want to discuss the issue of terrorism and the alleged involvement of Muslim youth in the anti-national activities threadbare,'' said Farid Ahmed Khan, general secretary, Majlis-e-Shoora. Khan reiterated the resolve of the Muslim intelligentsia to co-operate with the police and intelligence agencies in isolating the "black sheep'' in the community. "This is no longer an isolated issue. This is a grave issue because, in almost every blast across the country, educated Muslim youngsters are accused of being the masterminds. Muslim professionals working in MNCs and other private firms are fearful of the agencies who, they think, are biased. They don't know who will be picked up when on charges of being a terrorist," explained Khan who recently launched a movement to put up sign boards of streets and shops in Urdu in Muslim pockets of Mandanpura and Jogeshwari.

Meanwhile, Urdu newspapers have strongly criticised the police for being biased in handling communal riots in Dhule. "Yeh andar ki baat hai, police Hindutva fasadiyon ke saath hai (This is an internal matter, the cops are with the Hindutva-backed rioters)'' read the headline of Saeed Hameed's news analysis in Roznama Rashtriya Sahara (October 10). In the same piece Hameed asked Muslim leaders to co-operate with only "secular" police officers and boycott the communalised ones. :roll: He alleged that some police officers work to actually implement the agenda of Hindutva's hate brigade. "Muslim leaders and the ulema should now decide what kind of relationship they want to maintain with the police, especially in the backdrop of incidents in Dhule," commented Hameed.

They want to ridicule the police and expect impartiality from them??! :roll: :-?

Forcing people to implement signboards in marathi is anti-national but doing so in urdu in Jogeshwari etc is kosher, i suppose?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby AjayKK » 10 Oct 2008 11:50

The above article is by the esteemed Mohammed Wajihuddin, whose arsenal incudes mind numbing articles and twisted news versions. Along with Jyoti Punwani regularly graces the Sunday pages making the day brighter.

One of his samples:

The Monk who Sold a Story :eek:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/The_ ... 910734.cms


On a hot summer afternoon last week, around 700 Tibetan monks sat huddled in Mumbai's Azad Maidan. Somewhere nearby, huge crowds swelled at a massive Dalit rally.

Tibetan activists, trained in securing support from the most improbable corners of human conscience began a signature campaign. Within a few hours, thousands signed pledging support. The signatures were turned into a memorandum which was later dispatched to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. The Dalits, as usual, protested and went home without having expanded their constituency.

Few groups can match the Tibetans' ability to network, make friends and milk the friendship. Years of living in exile, in an undying hope of returning to their homeland one day, has taught the refugees the power of perseverance. And also the art of telling their side of the story.

The Tibetansskillfully supply the media with gory tales and images of Chinese aggression whose authenticity cannot be verified independently. Stories of Chinese "oppression" float on several websites.


So one has to 'ask the Chinese to verify tales of aggression' .
I suppose he has the TO-Let paper for breakfast , lunch and dinner, therefore, verbal dysentery is at its best .

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Manu » 10 Oct 2008 12:24

What exactly is the point of the article?


Disclaimer: this is just my 2 cents.

Sonia Mata Ji has a special person from Kerela - 1972 Batch, in fact, he is Chief Secretary. I think he was told directly from High Command to have such stories circulated.

Mumbai Cops are obliging. This is nothing but a PR article.

Disclaimer: this is just my 2 cents.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 10 Oct 2008 13:54

Secualrism in its full glory:
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Modasa: Gujarat police deny probe bias, say 60 Hindus are among 150 questioned

Vikram Rautela Posted: Oct 10, 2008 at 1157 hrs IST
AHMEDABAD, OCTOBER 9 More than 60 of the nearly 150 people questioned in connection with the September 29 blast in Modasa town of Sabarkantha district were Hindus, Gujarat police officials investigating the case said.

The bomb, hidden in a motorcycle parked near a mosque, exploded three days before Eid, killing a 15-year-old boy and leaving several injured.

Under fire from Muslim leaders for bringing only their community under the scanner — Congress MP Madhusudan Mistry even alleged that the focus of the probe appeared to be part of a politically-motivated exercise — police said they were examining both Hindus and Muslims for possible leads. :roll: {Amazing reasons given. wonder how the resident jains got missed out in this}

Dy SP K K Mysorewala told The Indian Express: “We have so far questioned nearly 150 people. Of this, more than 60 are Hindus living in localities in and around the town.” He said they had no specific lead so far. “We are not ruling out the possibility of non-Muslims being behind the blast but we have no evidence yet. We have detained and questioned suspects, without prejudice, irrespective of religion.”

The engine number of the motorcycle in which the bomb was placed had been completely erased, the etchings filed away. But it appears that the chassis number had only been tampered with, some numbers overwritten. Police say they are counting on forensics to decipher the original chassis number to get to the owner.

When the police keep count of how many people of each religion are being questioned, one can understand the farce investigations have been turned into!!!

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby rajsunder » 10 Oct 2008 20:00

sum wrote:Link
Muslims helped crack Mumbai terror module
10 Oct 2008, 1010 hrs IST, Mateen Hafeez & Nitasha Natu,TNN

MUMBAI: Crime branch officials tracking terror suspects in Mumbai were sheltered by Muslim families in their homes for a few days. The undercover officers took the families into confidence and used their houses as bases to observe the movements of the suspects before zeroing in on them.

“They played a very important role by supporting us in our operation,’’ joint commissioner of police (crime) Rakesh Maria said. Several suspects who were picked up from Mumbai and the neighbouring districts stayed in Muslim-dominated areas. For the cops, it was very difficult to move around there without being noticed.

The police identified some families through their contacts in Kurla, Cheetah Camp, and Mumbra, where the officers were provided shelter by Muslim families. “We stayed there for two days, watched the movements of the suspects and kept passing on the information to the crime branch headquarters where senior officers worked on it,’’ a police officer said. The basic idea was to confirm the identities of the suspects before picking them up.

In one instance, an officer apparently shot pictures of a suspect with his cellphone and sent it to headquarters where it was shown to one of the arrested accused. “He confirmed the identity, after which the suspect was arrested,’’ the officer said.

What exactly is the point of the article?

Doesnt this reinforce the impression most common folks have these days that only a few "special" muslims will help out the law enforcement agencies? The very fact that a few muslims helping the police makes headlines suggests(rightfully or wrongly) that most of the community dont... :-?

Would we have such articles if the local hindus/sikhs/jains had helped the police in their investigations??


Does he mention any availability of Hindu homes near by
“They played a very important role by supporting us in our operation,’’ joint commissioner of police (crime) Rakesh Maria said. Several suspects who were picked up from Mumbai and the neighbouring districts stayed in Muslim-dominated areas. For the cops, it was very difficult to move around there without being noticed.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Tamang » 10 Oct 2008 23:38

3 killed in communal clashes in Andhra Pradesh

BHAINSA (ANDHRA PRADESH): Three people were killed and six seriously injured in rioting and clashes between two communities in Bhainsa in Adilabad district on Friday afternoon. The district police said the situation was tense but under control. Additional forces have been rushed and prohibitory orders clamped on the town.

Clashes were also reported from Nirmal town in the district and police have imposed prohibitory orders there as well as a precautionary measure.

According to police, the clashes occurred when a Durga Puja procession was passing by devotees offering Friday prayers at a mosque. "The Durga Devi shobha yatra (procession) reached Masjid Panjeshah in central market around 1.00pm when devotees objected to the Durga processionists playing songs when their prayers were under way.

This led to stone-pelting by both the groups and grew into rioting, stabbing and burning of shops and vehicles," one official said.

Police rushed to the spot and tried to cool tempers and get the groups to talk to each other but their efforts went in vain. The clashes did not stop even after police resorted to a lathicharge. Finally, they fired 35 rounds of ammunition in the air.

In all, about 40 shops and 12 vehicles were torched by the rival mobs.

The dead were identified as Afsar Ahmed, 24, Abdul Kayyum, 22 and Bhutan, said to be a Marathi immigrant."All three died because of stabbing," Adilabad collector Ahmed Nadim told TOI. Adilabad Congress MP A Indrasena Reddy too told TOI that he had seen the bodies and found only stab wounds and no bullet injuries.

Abdul Majid, who sustained a serious bullet injury in the firing, was shifted to Nizamabad first and then to Hyderabad. He is in a critical condition. Peace committees belonging to the two communities have been set up to initiate a dialogue, the collector added. Referring to Nirmal, Nadim said a few people had gathered there but were quickly dispersed and ban orders clamped.

Adilabad SP Anil Kumar told TOI that the situation was tense but under control and that Section 144 had been imposed on the town to ensure normalcy. Observers said there was a major bungling by the district administration in allowing the Hindu procession to cross a mosque on a Friday afternoon. (What kind of lame excuse is this?) Not only that, the Durga puja procession, which comprised about 500 people, was accompanied by only one circle inspector, one sub-inspector and four constables. "In a town which has had communal clashes in the past, such inadequate measures are shocking," said one senior official.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Rye » 10 Oct 2008 23:41

Is this inspector working for the Mosque or for the govt.? Why can't the public cross in front of a mosque on a friday afternoon?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Tanaji » 10 Oct 2008 23:50

Rye wrote:Is this inspector working for the Mosque or for the govt.? Why can't the public cross in front of a mosque on a friday afternoon?


No, this is common practice at least in Mumbai. Members of either community are not allowed to carry their processions through eithers areas on certain days. There are always one or two idiots in either community that will try to incite something or the other. This is a reasonable proactive preventive measure.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Rye » 10 Oct 2008 23:55

Tanaji, Makes sense -- the thackeray types mirror the jihad types very well. Such things do not happen much in the south, so it is bewildering.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Avinash R » 11 Oct 2008 08:39

Huge arms haul in Kerala
11 Oct 2008, 0327 hrs IST,TNN

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: In the day and age of terrorism, it's a miracle that a veritable arsenal — 59 revolvers and 2,000 rounds of ammunition — appears to have been checked in at Dubai, undetected by both security and Emirates airlines, into a Karipur-bound flight.

The haul was detected by air customs staff on Wednesday night at the Karipur international airport in Malappuram, northern Kerala. The two passengers — Kalaskar Rafeeq Ahamed from Mumbai and Shahid Ali Mohammed Salim from Ratnagiri — were arrested.

Police didn't say if there were any links to terror groups, nor was there any explanation of why the men chose to enter through Kerala instead of Mumbai, which has several flights a day from Dubai, if they wanted to go to Maharashtra.

Malappuram SP M Padmanabhan said the guns were in their individual casings in their checked-in baggage. Many pistols bore the 'Made in Germany' tag.

The seizure had Smith and Wessons, Brownings and Colts, making the haul worth tens of thousands of dollars. The two men claimed it was intended to be used to scare animals, police said. Reports also said that Ahammed had been arrested by Mumbai police six months ago for smuggling in fake currency from Dubai.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Vivek Sreenivasan » 11 Oct 2008 09:08

Probably just a bunch of crooks who wanted to make a quick buck by selling to the public. But these revolvers could also have been for naxals and such therefore they should be severly punished. :twisted:

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 11 Oct 2008 10:26

rajsunder wrote:
sum wrote:Link

What exactly is the point of the article?

Doesnt this reinforce the impression most common folks have these days that only a few "special" muslims will help out the law enforcement agencies? The very fact that a few muslims helping the police makes headlines suggests(rightfully or wrongly) that most of the community dont... :-?

Would we have such articles if the local hindus/sikhs/jains had helped the police in their investigations??


Does he mention any availability of Hindu homes near by
“They played a very important role by supporting us in our operation,’’ joint commissioner of police (crime) Rakesh Maria said. Several suspects who were picked up from Mumbai and the neighbouring districts stayed in Muslim-dominated areas. For the cops, it was very difficult to move around there without being noticed.

Thats exactly my point. Why does it make news if a few muslims help out the police?Doesnt this confirm stereotypes that law abiding muslims are a "special breed" who need to be feted for helping out the police!!??

Does the bolded part confirm that it is a big achievement if the police are able to do their work without interruption/sabotage in a muslim dominated area??

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 11 Oct 2008 10:30

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Clashes break out in MP, three killed
11 Oct 2008, 0328 hrs IST, Suchandana Gupta,TNN

BHOPAL: Three people were killed and at least 20 injured in Hindu-Muslim riots at Burhanpur town in south Madhya Pradesh on Friday. The district a
dministration clamped curfew on the town and issued shoot-at-sight orders to bring the situation under control.

Rioters burned more than 60 shops in Gandhi Chowk area while houses and shops were ransacked in other parts of the town by rioting mobs. Police fired warning shots to disperse rioters.

Police said that the trouble started at 9:30 pm on Thursday when a religious procession was passing through a Muslim-dominated area of Burhanpur, a town close to Maharashtra border. Locals organise a three-day religious fair 'Balaji (Hanuman) Mela' right after Dussehra and a 'rath' with a Hanuman idol is taken out through the main thoroughfares of the town.

Police also said that the miscreants pelted stones on the 'rath' as it was passing through the area. This sparked clashes between the two communities. For next three hours, arson continued. The local administration tried to control the situation by organising a peace meeting of religious leaders but it did not work. Finally it imposed prohibitory orders late on Thursday night.

Fresh riots started on Friday afternoon when Muslims gathered at the Burhanpur's Jama Masjid for prayers. According to leader of opposition of Burhanpur Municipal Corporation Nafeez Mansaab, fresh clashes started after some unidentified men threw red 'gulaal' on Muslims offering prayers.

Almost immediately the town turned into a battlefield. Shops in Gandhi Chowk area were set one fire by a group of rioters, while another group attacked the police. Additional policemen were rushed to the town. Later curfew was imposed on the town.

Burhanpur SP Sunil Jain said, "Whatever the police could do to bring the situation under control was done. Shoot-at-sight orders have been issued and the entire town brought under curfew." Additional forces have been mobilised from the neighbouring districts of Indore, Dhar and Khandwa.

Burhanpur is an ancient town. Shahjahan's wife Mumtaz was initially buried here. Her mausoleum was later transferred to Taj Mahal in Agra.

Same old story everywhere....

Procession passes in front of a "area of worship", people object, pelt stones, riots break out and one community gets a @$$-whopping for starting it...

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Singha » 12 Oct 2008 20:32

riots in Adilabad the northernmost district of A.P. started when a group of musalman hanging near
a mosque objected to a durga idol immersion procession chanting a few hymns going on their
way.

as usual a illegal attempt to impose no-go dar-ul-islam zones within a "secular country"

CNN

Arson probe as Indian Muslim family burned alive

NEW DELHI, India (CNN) -- Six members of a Muslim family were burned alive Sunday in a fire at their house in the southern Indian state of Andhra Pradesh.

Police are looking into whether the fire was arson or an accident, because it came two days after deadly ethnic clashes between Hindus and Muslims in the same district.

The clashes broke out Friday at Bhainsa, a town in the Adilabad district that is about 275 km (170 miles) north of the state capital of Hyderabad. Three people were killed in the fighting, said Dugyala Ashok of the district's police force.

The violence erupted during a Hindu religious procession when a group of people near a mosque objected to hymn-singing by the devotees, Ashok said.


Hindus and Muslims pelted each other with stones. Along with the casualties, some 20 people were hurt, Ashok said. Police fired into the air to disperse the mob.

Authorities have now imposed a curfew in the area

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby harik » 12 Oct 2008 21:16

Singha,

In Dhule,

Whole issue was because a some hindu raksha samiti's poster was torn , but that is 'okay', after that
some Sabeer Ali made a speech . Sabeer Ali today cried on TV saying he was saying dont do it .. dont do it.

( Sahara Samachar )

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby mayurav » 12 Oct 2008 22:06

Avinash R wrote:Huge arms haul in Kerala
11 Oct 2008, 0327 hrs IST,TNN

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: In the day and age of terrorism, it's a miracle that a veritable arsenal — 59 revolvers and 2,000 rounds of ammunition — appears to have been checked in at Dubai, undetected by both security and Emirates airlines, into a Karipur-bound flight.

The haul was detected by air customs staff on Wednesday night at the Karipur international airport in Malappuram, northern Kerala. The two passengers — Kalaskar Rafeeq Ahamed from Mumbai and Shahid Ali Mohammed Salim from Ratnagiri — were arrested.

Police didn't say if there were any links to terror groups, nor was there any explanation of why the men chose to enter through Kerala instead of Mumbai, which has several flights a day from Dubai, if they wanted to go to Maharashtra.

Malappuram SP M Padmanabhan said the guns were in their individual casings in their checked-in baggage. Many pistols bore the 'Made in Germany' tag.

The seizure had Smith and Wessons, Brownings and Colts, making the haul worth tens of thousands of dollars. The two men claimed it was intended to be used to scare animals, police said. Reports also said that Ahammed had been arrested by Mumbai police six months ago for smuggling in fake currency from Dubai.


This is for Muzslim homes. They are graduating from talwar/long to guns. They will be used in next riots. Scare animals, my allah!

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