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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby vsudhir » 05 Apr 2009 05:22

shyam wrote:Any idea if this riot was being engineered to create another Gujarat riot sort and hence create a situation to dismiss Karnataka Government before election?


Dunno whose tactical brilliance it was that engineered Godhra but the psecs and the INC thereafter lost Guj for a generation (at least). Tactical brilliance of this level reeks of Bhrindaranwale level blundering. Am sure the INC (as also other parties) is not above trying anything onlee.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 05 Apr 2009 12:16

But in all seriousness, what were the police doing? Shouldn't they have stopped this?

Im not sure as to why are you feeling that the police did nothing?

What do you expect the police to do when out of nowhere, a huge murderous mob assembles in a peaceful locality (which is a very normal area and not a "sensitive zone" meaning no special police arrangement there) with no apparent provocation (unless warning a couple of druggies to behave is a provocation :-? ) to hack and burn everything in sight within minutes?

On top of that, the police would have obviously been instructed to go easy since a "community" is involved and any action against them will lead to the DDM screaming at the top of their voice.What else could the poor police do other than a few constables taking a few blows themselves to try and quell a riotous mob armed with lethal weapons with only their service "lathi"?
(Btw, a similar case happened 5-6 months back in B'luru when a rashly driving youngster who was even below legal driving age came under the wheels of a bus by driving on the wrong side of the road. Sadly, the guy happened to be "from a community" and within minutes, huge mobs assembled from the neighboring mosque armed with knifes, daggers etc and hurt a few passers-by and burnt atleast 10 vehicles causing a huge jam for hours since it is a vital main road. The police with their hands tied couldn't do much other than hoping the rioters tire out and go away since it was a "sensitive area" and the rioters outnumbered the unarmed police by a huge number :roll: )

Im 100% sure that if even rubber bullets were fired, quite a few "seculars" on BRF itself would have been howling about "evil, fascist BJP govt" killing rioting muslims while letting pub-raiding hooligans free!!!! :((

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Re: Internal Security Watch

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Keshav » 06 Apr 2009 01:59

sum wrote:What do you expect the police to do when out of nowhere, a huge murderous mob assembles in a peaceful locality (which is a very normal area and not a "sensitive zone" meaning no special police arrangement there) with no apparent provocation (unless warning a couple of druggies to behave is a provocation :-? ) to hack and burn everything in sight within minutes?


Maybe the BJP government should look into a SWAT-like team or some sort of fast reacting riot force since riots are such a big deal in India. The article doesn't say how long it lasted but at the very least there should be some police reinforcement for huge problems like this.

I still blame the BJP for not doing anything.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby shyam » 06 Apr 2009 02:37

Keshav wrote:I still blame the BJP for not doing anything.

Do you feel like blaming anybody for giving very poor media coverage for this incident, unlike the huge international coverage given to Rama Sene action in Mangalore? :wink:

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 06 Apr 2009 10:18

Maybe the BJP government should look into a SWAT-like team or some sort of fast reacting riot force since riots are such a big deal in India. The article doesn't say how long it lasted but at the very least there should be some police reinforcement for huge problems like this.
I still blame the BJP for not doing anything.

Nothing wrong in that opinion but just to indicate that NO police force/govt in the world could have done anything in this situation which happened in minutes with no provocation.

The police actually managed to reach pretty quickly and the damage was limited to the initial few minutes(no police force can materialize in 1 minute without pre-warning). They also managed to keep the affected locals from grouping up and giving it back.

So, i am not sure as what anyone (other than the people who plundered a decent locality shouting "Islam Khatrey mein hey" just because of two druggies of their community being warned off by the police) could have done differently here. Also remember that Mysore was never a communal hotspot meaning there are no RAF etc sitting around waiting for something to occur.

I would love to see the reactions when the police in a BJP ruled state actually acts with a iron fist when the next similar action occurs.

All the above is JMT, of course. Happy to be corrected.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby IndraD » 06 Apr 2009 14:58

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Blas ... 365349.cms
GUWAHATI: At least four people were killed and 20 were injured in a powerful car bomb blast in Maligaon area in Guwahati on Monday, according to TV reports
Times Now says the blast took place near Jalukbari police station, triggering a fire.
Several cars were reportedly gutted in the fire at the blast site.
According to IANS, the authorities suspected the hand of United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) rebels behind the blast in Assam's largest city.
The blast took place ahead of the Ulfa 'flag raising day', barely a day ahead of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s visit to the state.
Police have cordoned off the area and the injured were being rushed to nearby hospital.

People are throwing stones on police, On NDTV reporting that since this is congress ruled constituency it is likely that opposition is pelting stones on police.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Keshav » 06 Apr 2009 19:46

shyam wrote:
Keshav wrote:I still blame the BJP for not doing anything.

Do you feel like blaming anybody for giving very poor media coverage for this incident, unlike the huge international coverage given to Rama Sene action in Mangalore? :wink:


I thought that was a given to be honest.

sum wrote:The police actually managed to reach pretty quickly and the damage was limited to the initial few minutes(no police force can materialize in 1 minute without pre-warning). They also managed to keep the affected locals from grouping up and giving it back.


How do you know it only happened in a minute? Other than that, what you said makes sense. I suppose they did limit the damage somewhat.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 06 Apr 2009 21:29

The local papers reporting that all the pillaging was done within ten minutes flat...The one minute was just to highlight the blitzkreig like effect.
No police force can materialize within even five minutes unless they are some NSG/SF kind of QRTs which can get into action in 10-15 minutes (even they take more than 5-10 minutes). So, its only the anti-ruling party bias which causes people to start blaming the police for blatant terrorism of someone else :roll: :roll: .

I am no BJP fan but seeing the blatant bias against a single party 24X7 in the media (on silly issues like some Chaplain statue, M'lore "moral policing" where the attackers in the CPM MLA's daughters case turned out to be CPM guys itself, overblowing some random church incidents etc etc) is causing me to sympathize with them.
Would the National media have been so quiet if a gang of Hindu maniacs had gone on a rampage in some IM Ghetto in a BJP ruled state over a similar non-sense issue? We would have been having two talk shows daily on each channel discussing about how evil Hindus will not let poor muslims live with the evil fascist BJP govt helping the attackers.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Ananth » 06 Apr 2009 23:24

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To beat Pak spy game, let’s check who we hire
Anil Bhat

April.1 : Zaffarullah Khan, a jawan recruited in the Territorial Army three years ago and deputed to Rashtriya Rifles, disappeared from Doda district of Jammu and Kashmir (J&K) with two AK rifles, one Insas and seven magazines, it was reported on March 8. Defence PRO, Jammu, stated, "Police say the deserter may have joined Lashkar-e-Tayyaba. His brother is allegedly training with Hizbul Mujahideen in Pakistan".

A parallel that can be drawn with this case is of Lance Naik Mohammed Javed Khan who was posted at the Army’s 4 Corps headquarters in Tezpur, Assam. He was considered a hardworking sort who often worked late at night. But later he and his father, Mohammed Hanif Khan, a retired IAF sergeant, were arrested in July 2005 for "leaking" classified documents to officials of the Pakistan high commission in New Delhi.

While these two specific cases involve the family members of Muslim defence personnel, there are many such reports of non-Muslim armed forces personnel. In fact, ever since Pakistan came into existence its major irritant has been the patriotic Indian Muslim. Its Army has been most unhappy about Muslims serving in the Indian defence forces. Decorated Muslim personnel like Brigadier M. Usman, MVC, 1948, Havildar Abdul Hamid, PVC, 1965, who fought with valour in the three conventional wars, have always irked Pakistan’s military. But for the Muslims hailing from the Line of Control (LoC) belt and serving in Jammu and Kashmir Light Infantry (JAK LI), and other units of the Indian Army, Navy and Air Force, life is not easy as they are under constant threat of Inter-Services Intelligence-sponsored Pakistani terrorists operating in the area. In 1995, a non-commissioned officer (NCO) of JAK LI survived 18 bullet injuries while fighting terrorists in J&K.

The ISI’s footprints have been detected in and around key defence establishments, airbases and field formations across the country — from J&K and Northeast to Delhi, Jodhpur, Bengaluru, Kolkata and Mumbai. An ISI spy ring operating around naval installations was smashed in 2007. General Hamid Gul, a former chief of the ISI, is reported to have said that the ISI’s strategy to infiltrate the Indian armed forces is "as old as Pakistan" itself. While the ISI has been trying hard to penetrate India’s security forces and diplomatic missions for many years, the Union home ministry has neutralised 99 espionage modules of the ISI in India, between 2001 and 2005, and after 26/11 it has been in overdrive.

The ISI works on the principle of creating, exploiting and widening loopholes. It has many modes of espionage, sabotage and other disruptive activities, including circulation of fake Indian currency notes, subversion of Indian Muslims from liberal to fundamentalist and creating communal situations all over India. In the Northeast and West Bengal it has made use of countries like Nepal, Bangladesh and Burma as well as outfits like the United Liberation Front of Assam (Ulfa), Students Islamic Movement of India (Simi) for assistance to outsource. It also resorts to outsourcing between countries as in the case of Pakistan working for China’s interests against India. What Lance Naik Javed Khan leaked were operational details about the 4 Corps, including deployment and exercises along the Line of Actual Control with China.

One of ISI’s ambitious plan is to infiltrate Indian defence forces. Bangladeshi and Nepali youth with fake education and residential certificates are motivated and inducted into the armed forces. The other mode is to plant or recruit people who are used by security forces as informers, load carriers, guides or contractors. An example of how a trained and motivated person was able to cause grave damage to a unit is this incident of December 2002 in Assam. One Mohammad Ali succeeded in making himself useful to a newly-arrived battalion of Assam Regiment as an informer. First he spread the rumour of the presence of Ulfa in a Muslim majority village Adhiapara in Kamrup district. Assam Regiment personnel are all from the Northeast and speak Assamese. Their company commander, Major Rah Thabah, hailing from Meghalaya, also spoke Assamese fluently. Ali’s game plan was to try to extort money from a school teacher of that village, and so he told the Assam Regiment battalion that there was a group of Ulfa militants in the school teacher’s house. When Major Thabah’s detachment operating in civil clothes came there, villagers mistaking them to be Ulfa militants attacked them. Major Thabah and two soldiers were killed and a junior commissioned officer (JCO) was seriously injured.

The only consolation is that no matter how active Pakistan’s military or ISI has been in snooping and acquiring vital operational information, the professional performance of Pakistan’s armed forces in three wars was undoubtedly poor, to say the least. The proxy war fought with subverted, motivated and outsourced jihadis met with attrition in Punjab and J&K. While it has succeeded in terror attacks against soft targets all over India, the irony is that it too has become a target of the attackers it trained.

What emerges from all the above incidents is the oft-repeated recommendation of far greater and meaningful coordination between the defence services, the police and intelligence agencies at all levels. Investigation of antecedents of recruits to all armed services must be more thorough. In the interest of national security in a terrorist environment, inter-organisation rivalries, bureaucratic red tape and political expediency will have to be overcome. Police and administrative reforms and acquisition of hi-tech surveillance and weapon systems will have to be expedited.

Anil Bhat, a retired Army officer, is a defence and security analyst based in New Delhi

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Re: Internal Security Watch

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby LokeshP » 07 Apr 2009 23:20

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... irna03.htm

Security situation in South Asia deteriorated very sharply: India

India's porous borders and commitment to plurality made it a target for militants in neighboring countries," said Home Minister...


"ULFA is an old adversary. It is a banned organization. Its leaders are operating from sanctuaries across the international border."



take keen note of the attitude regarding ULFA. the more that PC runs his mouth the more i realize that anything other than INC is a better deal for India. the almost lazy attitude towards threats such as the ULFA is utterly disgusting. these terrorists kill as they wish and all he says is they are old adversaries....they will continue like that but we will continue as we have been...keep out mouths shut and hands firmly stuck in out pockets and watch the show. after all, it's just Assam we are talking about.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Prasad » 07 Apr 2009 23:21

ArunDotty Roy's shrill screams - "Free Binayak Sen"

Press Statement by Arundhati Roy for the Release of Dr Binayak Sen
Issued at the Raipur Satyagraha for the Release of Dr Binayak Sen

April 6, 2009 / Raipur, Chattisgarh

Dr Binayak Sen has been in prison for 22 months, arrested under one of India’s most draconian laws, the Chattisgarh Special Public Security Act. This Act has such a vague, diffused definition of ‘Unlawful Activity’ that it renders every person guilty unless he or she can prove their innocence. Dr Sen’s bail application was dismissed twice, both times at the very outset, by the High Court of Chattisgarh and by the Supreme Court of India. On neither occasion was there a discussion on the merits of the case. On the 2nd of December 2008 the High Court of Chattisgarh once again turned down his bail application, without a discussion on the merits of the case, saying that there had been no change in circumstances.

But there has been a change in circumstances. To begin with, the charge-sheet has been filed. 64 witnesses have been examined by the prosecution. Not one of them has provided legally admissible evidence to support the accusations in the charge-sheet. Even the jail officials, the Superintendent and the Jailer, who were called as witnesses by the Prosecution, have ruled out the possibility of Dr Sen being a carrier of letters given to him by Narayan Sanyal (said to be a senior Maoist leader) who is a high security prisoner in Raipur Jail. (It should be mentioned here that Narayan Sanyal has a medical condition which requires surgical intervention from time to time, which is why the jail authorities permitted Dr Sen to visit him regularly.)

That Dr Sen should continue to be in prison when the case against him has almost completely fallen through says a great deal about the very grave situation in Chattisgarh today. There is a civil war in this state. Hundreds are being killed and imprisoned. Hundreds of thousands of the poorest of the poor are hiding in the forests, fearing for their lives. They have no access to food, to markets, to schools or healthcare. The thousands who have been moved into the camps of the government-backed peoples’ militia, the Salwa Judum, are also trapped in sordid encampments, which have to be guarded by armed police. Hatred, violence and brutality is being cynically spread, pitting the poor against the poorest.

There is very little doubt that Dr Sen is in prison because he spoke out against this policy of the State Government, because he opposed the formation of the Salwa Judum. His incarceration is meant to silence dissent, and criminalize democratic space. It is meant to create a wall of silence around the civil war in Chattisgarh. It is meant to absorb all our attention so that the stories of the hundreds of other nameless, faceless people - ¬those without lawyers, without the attention of journalists - who are starving and dying in the forests, go unnoticed and unrecorded.

Tomorrow is World Health Day. Dr Binayak Sen spent the best part of his life working among the poorest people in India, who live far away from the government’s attentions, with no access to clinics, hospitals, doctors or medicines. He has saved thousands from certain death from malaria, diarrhea, and other easily treatable illnesses. And yet, he is the one in jail, while those who boast openly about mass murder are free to go about their business, and even stand for elections.

What does this say about us? About who we are and where we’re going?

Arundhati Roy


Reproducing the content. I presume there isn't any copyright since it was a press statement and I don't want to link to the Binayak sen website. Speaking of which, their website is pretty well laid-out. I wonder how they get the money and resources to build and maintain such a site. Lots of money flowing into their coffers it appears.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby LokeshP » 07 Apr 2009 23:32

Dhoti Roy continues her quest for the Untainted, Unbiased, Truth and Truth onlee...

it would have been very informative for the reader had she mentioned who the people are actually scared of and who they are hiding from...it would have been very informative if she were kind enough to tell us who is doing the killing of the common people...

Let Us All Join Her Excellency alssooo.....for the continued quest for the Ultimate Truth.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Keshav » 08 Apr 2009 00:20

Can someone tell me why everyone on this forum hates Dr. Binayak Sen so much? Is it simply because Arundhati Roy says something that people get their chuddies in a bunch?

What wrong has he done exactly?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Prasad » 08 Apr 2009 00:23

Keshav wrote:Can someone tell me why everyone on this forum hates Dr. Binayak Sen so much? Is it simply because Arundhati Roy says something that people get their chuddies in a bunch?

What wrong has he done exactly?


Perhaps you could read up on BRs views on him through this thread and the archives? and then ask this question?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Rudradev » 08 Apr 2009 01:54

Keshav wrote:
All the remarks here about blaming the Muslims is just pathetic.

One should just as easily blame the BJP government in place for not providing proper internal security. What the hell were the police during all this? .


Have you ever seen a communal riot? I mean, outside of youtube and "Slumdog Millionaire". A real one, with an armed mob of hundreds ready to kill any who stand in their way.

You should go sometime. Also, try and live for a week on the salary a cop is paid in India. And then spew your wise inferences about what the police could, should or did not do.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Rudradev » 08 Apr 2009 02:00

tsriram wrote:
Keshav wrote:Can someone tell me why everyone on this forum hates Dr. Binayak Sen so much? Is it simply because Arundhati Roy says something that people get their chuddies in a bunch?

What wrong has he done exactly?


Perhaps you could read up on BRs views on him through this thread and the archives? and then ask this question?


Since it's easier for him to ask you this question and accuse you of "hating" Binayak Sen... why should he dream of ever reading anything? :roll:

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby vsudhir » 08 Apr 2009 03:21

RD,

Since it's easier for him to ask you this question and accuse you of "hating" Binayak Sen... why should he dream of ever reading anything?


Ordinarily, benefits of doubt do abound. I remember when I was a newbie here, having bought into several half-truths and spin the western media establishment and their desi rentees spouted with seeming sincerity. Am thankful for encountering a few BR stalwarts who were patient and willing to gimme benefit of doubt - Ramana, shiv and Acharya among them.

But yes, should the half-truths, the urge to sermonize and moralize, to put-down 'nationalists' as fakes, bad people, imbeciles or worse, etc become a pattern, then you know something is off big-time. Its likely the guy concerned has no open mind. (That typically doesn't in any way stop him from going around admonishing BRFites for not having an open mind, though.)

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 08 Apr 2009 09:53

Have you ever seen a communal riot? I mean, outside of youtube and "Slumdog Millionaire". A real one, with an armed mob of hundreds ready to kill any who stand in their way.

You should go sometime. Also, try and live for a week on the salary a cop is paid in India. And then spew your wise inferences about what the police could, should or did not do.

Exactly what i wanted to say.....Talking of SWAT teams and what not in the context of a riot.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Keshav » 08 Apr 2009 19:51

Rudradev wrote:Since it's easier for him to ask you this question and accuse you of "hating" Binayak Sen... why should he dream of ever reading anything? :roll:


I was just asking a question... maybe you don't know yourself?

I realize he was accused of paying and abetting Naxalites, but I was asking for proof of which I haven't found any in the BR archives or threads, just a lot of accusations. I'm not here to accuse anyone of anything - not BRFites of being mean or Roys of being truthful.

All I'd like to know is - what has Dr. Binayak Sen done wrong and what has he done right. Some people accuse him of being a Naxalite while others say he's done a lot of humanitarian work. It could quite possibly be both but I don't see the evidence either way.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Gerard » 08 Apr 2009 21:37

Keshav wrote:I realize he was accused of paying and abetting Naxalites, but I was asking for proof of which I haven't found any in the BR archives or threads, just a lot of accusations.


He is not yet convicted so there is no proof as yet. That is for his trial.
The evidence against him seems serious since he was unable to get a judge to grant him bail.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby shyamd » 09 Apr 2009 04:52

Apparently Nawaz was bought out from Muscat on Feb 27th.

LeT plans to target Isro scientists

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Video of Taliban abduls entering India.
Is the video from another incident? I don't think it is from a UAV.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Keshav » 09 Apr 2009 08:34

Gerard wrote:
Keshav wrote:I realize he was accused of paying and abetting Naxalites, but I was asking for proof of which I haven't found any in the BR archives or threads, just a lot of accusations.


He is not yet convicted so there is no proof as yet. That is for his trial.
The evidence against him seems serious since he was unable to get a judge to grant him bail.


Thanks for that.

General Question -

What is it that can be done to minimize the damage of a riot? Anything?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby vera_k » 09 Apr 2009 08:36

Keshav wrote:General Question -

What is it that can be done to minimize the damage of a riot? Anything?


Let me take a stab at it.

1. Better training and equipment for the police.

2. Increase in number of police. Administration should not have to wait for the Army for riot control.

3. Speedy trials in the courts.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Keshav » 09 Apr 2009 08:40

vera_k wrote:1. Better training and equipment for the police.

2. Increase in number of police. Administration should not have to wait for the Army for riot control.

3. Speedy trials in the courts.


Members above mentioned that in ten minutes, no significant force can be mustered to fight a bloodthirsty mob of hundreds. With that in mind, anything?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Singha » 09 Apr 2009 09:14

surrender India to Pakistan.

inside the Qila-e-Islam there is always 100% peace.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 09 Apr 2009 09:25

Is the video from another incident? I don't think it is from a UAV.

Thermal Imagers kept at vantage points near the border...

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 10 Apr 2009 00:12

Keshav wrote:Members above mentioned that in ten minutes, no significant force can be mustered to fight a bloodthirsty mob of hundreds. With that in mind, anything?

What we require is a political will power and a sense among the politicians that "riots are not some thing positive". Given a free hand the Indian Police do have the common sense and will power to control rioting. They do have sources on the ground and can predict some eventualities. But when you send the police force with one hand tied behind their backs, there is nothing much they can do. And one of their main problem is that when the "minority community" runs bersek, they don't get concrete orders to move in full strength.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Stan_Savljevic » 10 Apr 2009 06:26

Malbari's lawyer shot dead in Mangalore
A lawyer representing Rashid Malbari, an aide of Chhota Shakeel, was shot dead by unidentified assailants near his apartment on Sturrock Road on Thursday. The deceased is Naushad Kasim, aged around 35. He was found dead when the police arrived. Additional SP Dileep said the victim had run about 100 metres towards an apartment near his block, when bullets were pumped into him by two assailants. Seven bullet casings found on the spot, leading police to suspect that two weapons may have been used. Police say the killers might have escaped on foot.

Meanwhile, underworld don Ravi Poojari called a news channel and claimed responsibility for the murder, saying those supporting anti-nationals would be dealt with accordingly. Sources said Poojari had called the news channel a couple of days ago, saying that lawyers or anybody supporting anti-nationals would be eliminated by them. Eyewitness said the lawyer was taken out of his home by two persons and the trio had an argument, following which he was shot at. The lawyer started running from the assailants and they followed him and pumped bullets into him. Though police did not confirm how many times he was shot, eyewitnesses said they saw bullet injuries near his neck and abdomen.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Citi ... 382757.cms

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby vera_k » 10 Apr 2009 08:11

Sachin wrote:Given a free hand the Indian Police do have the common sense and will power to control rioting.


Beg to differ, but this is not true. For one, there have been multiple instances reported where the police have refused to act. For another, the Army always seems to get called out and things deteriorate until they deploy in the area.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 10 Apr 2009 13:57

For another, the Army always seems to get called out and things deteriorate until they deploy in the area.

Dont expect the army also to behave impartially if things like this happen where armymen are nearly lynched by a "peaceful community".

Army truck runs over boy

Bangalore: Police tear-gassed and caned a crowd that went berserk on Shampur Main Road near K.G. Halli here on Thursday after an army truck ran over a 10-year-old schoolboy in front of Al-Quba Mosque around 2.15 p.m.

The irate mob torched the truck and threw stones at the police when Sheikh Salman, a resident of D.J. Halli, and studying in Kushal Urdu Primary School, died as his bicycle went under the wheels of the truck. As news of the child’s death spread, around 400 people gathered at the spot and formed a blockade. They threw throw stones at the police and presspersons .

Several young men, armed with wooden planks, damaged a traffic interceptor vehicle and two police jeeps, forcing the police to burst teargas shells and resort to lathicharge.


“The truck belongs to the Indian Army and it was moving towards an army facility on Ring Road near Banasawadi. Apart from the driver, there were three army men in the truck. The boy attempted to cross the road when the truck hit him,” Panduranga H. Rane, Deputy Commissioner of Police (Traffic North Division), told The Hindu.

The police detained driver K. Prabhakar (34), who is working in the Signal Section of K.K. Sub Area, and questioned him.

Local papers say that the armymen were caught hold of by a mob and were being dragged to some place for some "serious action"(anyone can guess what it might have been) when a few "other locals" managed to rescue the three armymen and get them out of the place.

Seems that any accident happening in a locality dominated by a "certain community" is a sure shot invitation for riots and mayhem.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 10 Apr 2009 14:26

Very important decision, IMO:
Centre to withdraw Assam militant surrender policy after LS polls
Although the Tarun Gogoi government came to power after a tactical understanding with the militants groups particularly ULFA, this time the Centre does not want to take chances with serial blasts and killings becoming the order of the day.{%#$@^& Kangress :x :x } State DGP Srivastava, who took over after R.N. Mathur was shown the door after the October 30 serial blasts, made it clear that his team would aggressively pursue the ULFA in the state.
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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby shyamd » 10 Apr 2009 17:15

Oman national gets 5 yrs for hiding explosives in shoes
According to the prosecution, Mohammad was to board a flight (WI 808) to Muscat on July 23, 2008, when officers at the baggage screening counter detected firecrackers in his luggage. The crackers were placed in a polythene bag. Air India security staff, who were screening the baggage, removed the polythene bag as it is illegal to carry explosive substances in an aircraft. However, an officer realised that the scanner detected more explosive substances than were found. He immediately informed the Sahar police who searched Mohammad's baggage thoroughly. They came across four shoes with unusually large heels. They were broken open to reveal 68 explosive substances including two sound crackers, small silver foil-coated bombs, anar and sutli bombs (firecrackers). Mohammad was booked under the provisions of the Explosive Substances Act and the Aircraft Act. .
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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Gerard » 10 Apr 2009 17:38

The police detained driver K. Prabhakar (34), who is working in the Signal Section of K.K. Sub Area, and questioned him.


So the driver gets detained for what was an accident. A court will determine if he was driving recklessly, which is a criminal offense.

What about the rioting and the destruction of the property of Indian taxpayers (the Army truck)?

Who has been arrested for that?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 10 Apr 2009 19:46

What about the rioting and the destruction of the property of Indian taxpayers (the Army truck)?
Who has been arrested for that?

Those are just collateral, sir (just like bombings all over India in 2008 is due to a mosque in 1992).

If even a finger is raised against anyone from a "community", there will be more mayhem and hungama against the evil fascist Karnataka govt from our seculars/DDMs.One of our members was anyways arguing that the police is always at fault for all incidents like these(esp if happens to be BJP ruled).

I only thank god that the three armymen escaped a gruesome death by the skin of their teeth since local reports mention that they came very close to it.
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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby JwalaMukhi » 10 Apr 2009 20:25

^^ This is classic case of NO GO AREAS inside the nation, where the law of the land is not applicable. Period. These no-go areas have their own special law and are sancturies to conveniently use/discard the Indian/state and other laws as convenient. Day is not be far of when prosecution is insisted to be conducted only according the law of the NO GO areas and in NO GO areas onlee.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby putnanja » 10 Apr 2009 20:39

We were not successful in stopping terrorist strikes: Manmohan

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Referring to the terror attacks that occurred in the country in the past few years, Manmohan Singh said: "Let me be candid. We have not been successful in warding off terrorist attacks. This requires greater attention."
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"You must remember India is country of one billion people. I cannot discuss in public how the US deals with terrorism. And we cannot use the draconian ways that America deals with the issue of terrorism," he added.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ramana » 10 Apr 2009 21:01

That Oman guy was smuggling diwali crackers back to Muscat. To be fair no such material is allowed on planes for risk of hazardous auto ignition.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Dilbu » 10 Apr 2009 21:08

"You must remember India is country of one billion people. I cannot discuss in public how the US deals with terrorism. And we cannot use the draconian ways that America deals with the issue of terrorism," he added.

We all know to which indian voter gallery he is playing when MMS talks about American draconian ways of keeping track of potential terrorists. But why is he not mentioning their success in preventing terrorism on US mainland? Mr. Singh are you trying to say that the rights of a potential jihadi is more important than hundreds of innocent Indian lives?


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