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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby SSridhar » 24 Sep 2009 16:44

A Great Opportunity for Indian Science
Talks about the India Neutrino Observatory that has been hanging fire for sometime now due to environmental issues.
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A rock of at least a kilometre thickness is needed to filter all other cosmic-ray-produced particles to enable the detector to detect the elusive neutrinos. Hence we have to go inside a mountain. The Nilgiri mountains were chosen as the suitable site for the underground laboratory because of the stability and safety of the Nilgiri rock. A huge cavern of size 120m x 25m x 30m will be dug under the Nilgiri mountains at 1.3 km below the peak and this will be accessed through a horizontal tunnel of more than 2 km in length. A gigantic magnetised detector weighing 50,000 tonnes will be constructed inside this cavern and will be used to detect and study the neutrinos.

In addition to making major discoveries, the INO will benefit generations of students and young scientists and engineers by training them through participation in a major scientific experiment. Student recruitment and training for the INO has started. The project will also include an INO Centre devoted to R&D in detector technology, which will have far-reaching applications in diverse fields. In spite of progress on all other fronts, the project has been bogged down because of the delay in procuring the required government clearances.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby sanjaykumar » 26 Sep 2009 04:15

Will this INO be of any advantage over ICE CUBE?

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby arun » 26 Sep 2009 12:26

Canada says India nuclear deal imminent

Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:44am IST

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada is close to signing a deal with India to sell nuclear technology and materials, Trade Minister Stockwell Day said on Friday, adding he was confident that remaining security concerns would be resolved.

Day made similar comments in May, saying at that time that a deal was imminent.

He told reporters on a conference call that he was now ironing out a few final stumbling blocks.

"I had a telephone meeting just last week with India's national security adviser. We are down to four fine points ... He and I both agree that final agreement is possible within days, if not just a matter of a few weeks," ...........................

Reuters

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby Neshant » 26 Sep 2009 12:42

Though the negotiating stance is yet to be crafted, sources said that access to simulation data with the US, which can add to the nuclear weapon knowhow, can be the starting point.


Simulation data is useless unless a half dozen full scale test can be conducted to prove the simulation.

Inevitably a new series of test will have to be conducted to remedy the failed test of Pokhran.

If I were Iran, I'd be getting ready to withdraw from the NPT and test the day after India tests.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby Dilbu » 26 Sep 2009 13:06

US assured UN resolution on NPT not directed against India: PM
US President Barack Obama today assured Prime Minister Manmohan Singh that the UNSC resolution asking non-NPT states to sign the Non-proliferation Treaty is not directed against India and that his country would fulfil all obligations on the nuclear deal.

"We have been assured (by the US) that this is not a resolution directed against India and that the US commitment to carry out its obligations under the civil nuclear agreement, which we have signed with the United States, remains undiluted," he told reporters wrapping up his two-day visit here to attend the G-20 Summit.

"That (commitment on nuclear deal) we have been assured officially by the United States Government," Singh said.

He was replying to a question about the UNSC resolution asking all non-NPT states, including India, to sign Non-proliferation Treaty.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby dinesha » 26 Sep 2009 19:23

"Why the present nuclear nonproliferation order will not survive" subject of Karnad talk, Oct. 7, Princeton University
http://wws.princeton.edu/event_rep/BharatKarnad10_07/

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby SSridhar » 27 Sep 2009 07:45

On the Neutrino Observatory in the Nilgiris
The stand of the State Government on the proposed India-based Neutrino Observatory at Singara near the Mudumalai Tiger Reserve has not changed, said the Secretary, Environment and Forests, Debendranath Sarangi while speaking to newspersons on the sidelines of the 56th annual conference of the Planters Association of Tamil Nadu in Coonoor on Saturday.

Stating that permission has not been given to the promoters of the project, he said that they have already been told that many environmental issues need to be looked into.

When asked about the lobbying that was going on in favour of the project, he said that of late no one had approached the Government. He added that there was a ban on quarrying in the Nilgiris district.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby Sanjay M » 27 Sep 2009 11:45

translation:

vee no vaant nuke-trino stayshun here

vee no vaan birt defekts fraam nuke-trinos

keep nuke-trinos avaay

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby SSridhar » 27 Sep 2009 13:16

SanjayM, but Tamil Nadu is also a state where there is Kalpakkam & Kudankulam. The neutriono observatory will be less problematic than setting up nuclear power stations. The objection here is from environment perspectives.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby SSridhar » 27 Sep 2009 13:20

Indian nuclear reactor model unveiled for exports

India has marked its entry into the nuclear export market, with a new reactor model christened AHWR300-LEU. The prototype, which was designed and developed recently, uses low enriched uranium along with thorium as fuel and is a new version of the Advanced Heavy Water Reactor (AWHR).

According to the Department of Atomic Energy (DAE), the reactor has a significantly lower requirement of mined uranium per unit energy produced compared to most of the current generation thermal reactors and is being marketed for countries with small grids. India formally unveiled the prototype at the International Atomic Energy Agency’s 53rd General Conference in Vienna earlier this month.

“This version of the design can meet the requirement of medium sized reactors, in countries with small grids while meeting the needs of next generation systems. ‘AHWR300-LEU’ possesses several features, which are likely to reduce its capital and operating costs and make it ideally suited for leveraging the industrial capabilities available in several developing countries,” a DAE official said.

One of the selling points being buttressed by the Indian side is the inherent “proliferation-resistant” features of the reactor’s fuel cycle. “The reactor provides a better utilisation of natural uranium… The composition of the fresh as well as the spent fuel of ‘AHWR300-LEU’ makes the fuel cycle inherently proliferation resistant,” the official said.

India has held preliminary discussions on the possibility of setting up a nuclear power reactor in Kazakhstan based on Indian reactor design.

Several Asean countries are reported to be eyeing the nuclear option, with Indonesia, Vietnam, the Philippines and Thailand, among those having announced plans to tap atomic energy in the future.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby AnimeshP » 28 Sep 2009 21:17

When Bill Clinton had to be scared

Why should New Delhi be furious when Mr Clinton’s words show that Indian officials ensured that the psychological aspect of nuclear deterrence was maintained during the crisis? For a country with a no-first use policy, it is imperative that there is no ambiguity in the minds of adversaries and observers with regard to its commitment to a retaliatory strike. If Mr Clinton was convinced that the red button would be pressed in retaliation, regardless—and perhaps more importantly, in spite of knowledge of the damage assessments—New Delhi should be pleased. Given his subsequent actions, this might have well been the case.


The paradox of nuclear deterrence requires India to credibly demonstrate the unflinching resolve to cause mindless destruction in order to forestall it. To see this as playing “fast and loose” to notch a “bizarre win” is an uninformed, superficial and incorrect way to look at this issue.


The crucial question is: can Indian officials continue to convince the Clintons of the world, like they did in 1999?

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby AnimeshP » 28 Sep 2009 23:37

Obama’s Peace Through Disarmament Plan Isn’t Working: Nuclear Proliferation is Rampant

Unremarkable article ... except for the reader comments by a person named Dennis ... interesting read ... not sure if he is authentic or fake so take it FWIW ...

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby SSridhar » 30 Sep 2009 07:02

L&T Can build bigger capacity nuclear plants
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“It is not difficult for us to build 3,000-4,000 MW nuclear plants every year,” company Chairman and Managing Director A. M. Naik told reporters here.

“Let me do the whole thing (nuclear plant) and I will deliver it in five years,” Mr. Naik said. He stressed for changing the mode of execution of projects from piecemeal to turn-key.

The company carries out jobs on a component basis and claims to have the capacity to build entire nuclear plants.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby sanjaykumar » 30 Sep 2009 07:08

YESS India needs to pay some country if need be to install this reactor. India needs to develop the cachet of a high technology nation-this perforce involves exports.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby Sanjay M » 30 Sep 2009 17:47

Who would be a good candidate for Indian reactor exports?

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby SSridhar » 30 Sep 2009 18:28

Generally, there is a revival of nuclear power stations everywhere. The Indian designed reactors would be of interest to many medium-level and most low-level countries. Reactors that can be built by players like L&T in collaboration with major international players can of course go everywhere. Of course, fuel suppl linkages and NSG approvals are another matter.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby harbans » 30 Sep 2009 18:37

India need not pay. Countries like Thailand have expressed interest before. They have smaller grid requirements and the Indian plant is proven. The NSG win paved the way for Indian exports of nuclear technology. Hussain can never replicate GWBs legacy. All said and done i doubt any other US President would've tilted the nuclear cart so much to accommodate India. If Kissinger, Mushy avowed India haters can come and give lectures here, India should certainly invite GWB and Rice..their 2nd term was the most Pro India precidency in US history ever IMHO. And being an elephant we should always remember to honor those who helped us. Even if it's a wee bit.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby vijayk » 30 Sep 2009 20:59

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/30/ ... index.html

Last Thursday, the president, chairing the United Nations National Security Council, pushed through a six-page resolution that was approved unanimously 15-0. The resolution urged a world without nuclear weapons.

President Obama stated: "We must never stop until we see the day when nuclear arms have been banished from the face of the earth."

Some may see that as an admirable goal but the hard truth is that the five permanent members of the Security Council: China, France, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States all have nuclear weapons and none of them -- including the United States -- are giving them up. They may downgrade and diminish the stockpile a little, but nobody's going "no nuke."

You add the other three nuclear powers -- Pakistan, India and Israel (although they don't admit or deny) -- and nobody is disarming. Russia, which along with us has the largest stockpile, couldn't get out of the room fast enough before saying "not us!"

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby sanjaykumar » 30 Sep 2009 21:36

Obama ain't gonna turn white by jumping on the nonproliferation bandwagon.


(I do have enormous respect for Obama's charisma and intelligence).

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby AnimeshP » 01 Oct 2009 01:53

India turns to nuclear power

INDIA wants to raise the amount of power it generates from atomic energy a hundredfold, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said, signalling the prospect of billions of dollars in contracts for global energy companies in exchange for less scrutiny of its nuclear programme.

'If we manage our programme well, our three-stage strategy could yield potentially 470,000MW of power by the year 2050,' he said in a speech yesterday to a conference on the peaceful use of atomic energy. 'This will sharply reduce our dependence on fossil fuel and will be a major contribution to global efforts to combat climate change.'


For that reason, some thought Dr Singh's speech yesterday had a not-too-subtle subtext.

'What the PM is saying is that there is big money to be made in India by global energy companies, so it is not worth your while to crimp India's nuclear programme,' said a senior Asian diplomat in New Delhi. 'Secondly, do not expect India to make concessions on emissions if you try to tighten the rules on nuclear commerce.'


Even so, Dr Singh's projections startled analysts and diplomats here. Some wondered whether a typographical error had led to an additional zero being added to the projections for nuclear power. :roll:

That is because India's total electricity from coal, gas, hydro-electric, wind and nuclear power is about 165,000MW currently, with nuclear energy contributing a mere 4,120MW of this sum.

Dr Bharat Karnad, India's top analyst on nuclear issues, said Dr Singh's projections took him by surprise.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby ramana » 01 Oct 2009 03:44

Drafting error again or printer's devl!

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby Sanku » 01 Oct 2009 17:08

I think this was not posted before, mods please delete if a repeat.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/205968/US-d ... ation.html

US doublespeak on proliferation

G Parthasarathy


On July 8, 1996 the World Court held that states possessing nuclear weapons have not just a need, but an obligation to commence negotiations leading to nuclear disarmament. The court also held that the use or threat of use of nuclear weapons would be generally contrary to the principles of international law, though there was some doubt about the extreme contingency when “the very survival of a state was threatened”. Despite this World Court opinion, the United States, Russia, France and the UK reserve the right to use or threaten to use nuclear weapons whenever their interests so demand. The US and Russia together possess around 19,000 nuclear warheads; France has around 350 warheads and the UK 160 warheads.

The 2005 US Doctrine of Joint Operations spells out several contingencies when the US could use nuclear weapons, including situations where it wants to “rapidly end a war on terms favourable to the US” or to ensure that American and international operations are successful. President Jacques Chirac announced in January 2006 that France reserves the right to use nuclear weapons against states supporting terrorism or seeking weapons of mass destruction. In 2003, British Defence Secretary Geoffrey Hoon warned Iraq that “in right conditions” the UK reserved the right to use nuclear weapons. China and India have ruled out the “first use” of nuclear weapons. Israel and Pakistan have indicated that they would use nuclear weapons if their very survival is threatened. President Barack Obama has indicated that the 2005 US Doctrine would be reviewed. But the US and its NATO allies will not rule out the use of nuclear weapons against states that do not possess such weapons, or give a “no first use” pledge against states possessing nuclear weapons.

Mr Obama has indicated that he does not expect to see the goal of a nuclear weapons-free world achieved in his lifetime. The so-called ‘nuclear weapons states’ may talk about arms limitations and undertake some token cuts in certain categories of strategic warheads. But they have no intention of eliminating nuclear weapons in the foreseeable future. Moreover, the American record on non-proliferation has been selective. In their book Deception: Pakistan the United States and the Global Nuclear Weapons Conspiracy, Adrian levy and Catherine Scott-Clark have revealed how the CIA and successive US Administrations covered up information they had about Pakistan’s relentless, China-assisted quest for nuclear weapons because of larger strategic considerations.

American ‘Non-proliferation Ayatollahs’ roar like lions when talking about proliferation by Iran and North Korea, but squeak like mice when it comes to proliferation by China. The Americans have long known that China has provided Pakistan with nuclear weapons designs, fissile material and enrichment equipment, but have deliberately turned a blind eye to China’s activities. Over the past decade, China has provided Pakistan with plutonium reactors and reprocessing technology to enable Pakistan to make lighter warheads for fitment on Chinese supplied ballistic and cruise missiles. Successive US Administrations have ignored this. Moreover, despite recent revelations about AQ Khan, the Obama Administration continues to maintain that Pakistan’s proliferation activities were carried out solely by a rogue “AQ Khan Network”, thus absolving the Pakistani Army establishment which was the prime culprit, of its culpability. If President Ronald Reagan overlooked Pakistani proliferation in the 1980s to keep Gen Zia-ul-Haq pleased, Mr Obama evidently wants to keep Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani in good humour. The Obama Administration remains tongue-tied on issues of the Pakistani Army’s role in nuclear proliferation, and on the ISI’s support for Taliban leaders and groups like the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba who kill American soldiers and nationals in Afghanistan and elsewhere.

New Delhi is not the only capital concerned by the Obama Administration’s efforts for ‘universalisation’ of the Non-Proliferation Treaty through demands that India, Israel and Pakistan should accede to the NPT. Responding to repeated statements on this issue by Obama Administration luminaries, Israel’s normally soft-spoken Defence Minister Ehud Barak retorted on September 7: “Until the Muslim world from Marrakesh to Bangladesh behaves like Western Europe, there can be no debate on nuclear non-proliferation.” Rarely, if ever, has Israel reacted in such terms to sermons on its security imperatives from an American President.

India has rejected the Obama-sponsored UN Security Council Resolution of September 24, calling on it to accede to the NPT. India should make it clear internationally that an important reason that the US is now focussing heavily on the NPT is that it is desperately keen to ensure that the NPT Review Conference scheduled for 2010 does not end in a fiasco like the review of 2005. But, the reasons why the non-nuclear weapons states stood firm in the 2005 review still remain valid, as the nuclear weapons states pay only lip service to nuclear disarmament, still insist on their right to use nuclear weapons against those who do not posses such weapons, and selectively deny technology for the development of nuclear energy. Moreover, while India would be prepared to join a multilaterally negotiated and non-discriminatory treaty on a fissile material cut-off, we cannot accede to the CTBT, which was accompanied by secret understandings and exchanges between five nuclear weapons states.

India-US relations saw a remarkable turnaround in the last two years of the Clinton Administration and throughout the eight years of the Bush Administration. The 2002 Bush National Security Doctrine resulted in the US regarding India as a partner in areas ranging from nuclear non-proliferation to climate change and global economic issues. The policies the Obama Administration has pursued since it assumed office on such issues give the impression that it regards India as a target, rather than as a partner. Including provisions in the UN Security Council Resolution of September 24 which are at variance with the letter and spirit of the 123 Agreement and the subsequent NSG waiver only accentuates misgivings and suspicions in India. Similarly, the threats held out about trade sanctions against countries that do not toe the US line on climate change, by Democratic Party Senator John Kerry, smack of crude intimidation. Given the Obama Administration’s approach to relations with China, can one see any prospect of the type of swift and effective India-US cooperation that followed the Indian Ocean tsunami? These misgivings and suspicions will have to be addressed when Prime Minister Manmohan Singh visits Washington, DC.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby harbans » 01 Oct 2009 17:53

Drafting error again or printer's devl!

Ramanaji, it cannot be a drafting error. India's percapita energy consumption is going to rise atleast 10 times by 2050. Our economy has risen over 6 times in the last 15 years. IIRC energy consumption will increase in some similar ratio. If percap energy consumption rises 10 times we are talking of installed capacity over 1000 GW. So assuming we're not going the coal route, and 50% is through Nuclear by then, we are talking a figure of around 500 GW at the minimum as required. MMS says 460 GW. Thats the correct. 46 GW makes no sense by 2050. In the coming years if we want to sustain a 10% growth rate, we need to install a GW of energy almost every 10 days or so!

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby shiv » 01 Oct 2009 19:38

My involvement in this thread tends to be shoot and scoot. Regarding India's energy requirement - what we need is fuel for cooking. Even water for bathing can be heated by solar - but currently ( I don't have an exact estimate) I think at least 500 million people (probably more) are using firewood.

Indian population is still 60% rural (more than 600 million) but it is also clear that 100% of urban households do not use gas or electricity. Many use kerosene in Primus stoves. Some use firewood - especially the poorer households. At home we use mainly gas and some electricity. Water for bath by solar (currently on electric backup as we have had three consecutive rainy days) . One maidservant uses gas. Another, and a gardener use firewood - some harvested from my garden. All are city dwellers. The total number of people involved is 19. Eight use gas. 11 use firewood/kerosene.

So yes Indian households are going to be energy hungry. Today's paper said Karnataka has 40% (or some such ridiculous figure) shortfall in electricity.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby Lilo » 02 Oct 2009 13:47

Just came across this great collection of editorial quotes on FAS
They are all from 1998 when we tested our nukes.


Many views raised there regarding india affirm our present perception of some states while the views of others are an eyeopener. Makes me wonder if we did the 1998 tests now, what their reactions might be and how different they would have been from 1998 ?

World Media reaction to 1998 Nuclear tests of India

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby ramana » 03 Oct 2009 01:05

Lilo wrote:Just came across this great collection of editorial quotes on FAS
They are all from 1998 when we tested our nukes.


Many views raised there regarding india affirm our present perception of some states while the views of others are an eyeopener. Makes me wonder if we did the 1998 tests now, what their reactions might be and how different they would have been from 1998 ?

World Media reaction to 1998 Nuclear tests of India


Why dont you make your assessments and post them in the POK II thread?

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby Avarachan » 03 Oct 2009 05:47

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oc ... -old-secr/

President Obama has reaffirmed a 4-decade-old secret understanding that has allowed Israel to keep a nuclear arsenal without opening it to international inspections, three officials familiar with the understanding said.

The officials, who spoke on the condition that they not be named because they were discussing private conversations, said Mr. Obama pledged to maintain the agreement when he first hosted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House in May.

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Mr. Netanyahu let the news of the continued U.S.-Israeli accord slip last week in a remark that attracted little notice. He was asked by Israel's Channel 2 whether he was worried that Mr. Obama's speech at the U.N. General Assembly, calling for a world without nuclear weapons, would apply to Israel.

"It was utterly clear from the context of the speech that he was speaking about North Korea and Iran," the Israeli leader said. "But I want to remind you that in my first meeting with President Obama in Washington I received from him, and I asked to receive from him, an itemized list of the strategic understandings that have existed for many years between Israel and the United States on that issue. It was not for naught that I requested, and it was not for naught that I received [that document]."

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A Senate staffer familiar with the May reaffirmation, who asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the issue, said, "What this means is that the president gave commitments that politically he had no choice but to give regarding Israel's nuclear program. However, it calls into question virtually every part of the president's nonproliferation agenda.The president gave Israel an NPT treaty get out of jail free card."

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

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India-US hope to clinch ENR deal
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India and the US may clinch the much-awaited “arrangements and procedures” agreement on reprocessing the spent nuclear fuel of American origin when they meet in Vienna soon.

The talks between officials of the nuclear establishments of the two countries are expected to take place within the next fortnight and will be observed very closely by US companies which are keen to set up nuclear power plants in India.

The first round of talks in July in Vienna were “very surprising for both the sides”, sources close to the negotiators said.

Department of Atomic Energy officials also said the two sides had made “good progress” in the first round of discussions and were optimistic that agreement could be clinched “in a couple of months“. . . .

The consultations are being based strictly on Article 6 (III) of the 123 agreement between India and the US.

According to the agreement, to bring reprocessing rights into effect, India has to establish a new national facility dedicated to reprocessing safeguarded nuclear material under the safeguards of International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

Also, India has to reach an agreement with the US on “arrangements and procedures” under which such reprocessing will take place in this new facility.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby SSridhar » 05 Oct 2009 09:02

The Gareth Evans led commission comes to India and asks to sign CTBT

India will not be allowed to enter NPT as a NWS: Gareth Evans
India, Pakistan and Israel will not be allowed to join the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) as nuclear-weapon states, Gareth Evans, Co-chair of the International Commission on Nuclear Non-proliferation and Disarmament, has said.

At the same time, the former Australian Foreign Minister hinted at the possibility of accommodating these three countries in the non-proliferation regime without giving them recognition as de jure nuclear powers.

“There are all sorts of other ways and mechanisms…to move towards disarmament where India, Pakistan and Israel could make a real contribution to make this a safer world,” Evans said.

He felt that the 2008 Indo-US civil nuclear mechanism, which allowed India access to international nuclear technology and fuel, was a one-sided deal that favoured New Delhi.

Describing the deal as “fantastic” for India, he said that New Delhi was allowed to produce more fissile material for nuclear bombs even while obtaining nuclear technology from abroad.

“With respect, you (India) have got away very easily and this is not a good precedent for anybody else,” he opined.

Evans, who will visit Pakistan for a day, did not believe that the international community would offer Islamabad a deal similar to the one struck by India and the US given Pakistan’s poor proliferation record in the past.

He conceded there was a direct connection with China if one were to examine the idea of an “effective” nuclear weapons-free zone in South Asia, given Delhi’s stated desire for parity with Beijing.

“You are absolutely right in the connection between South Asia and North Asia _ all these things are inter-connected and you are absolutely right that the India-China piece of the puzzle is as important as any other.”

India’s rationale for acquiring an overt nuclear weapons’ capability flowed from its perceived need to act as a counterweight to China along with the issue of prestige and status.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby Sanjay M » 05 Oct 2009 09:46

SSridhar wrote:India’s rationale for acquiring an overt nuclear weapons’ capability flowed from its perceived need to act as a counterweight to China along with the issue of prestige and status.


I really wish we'd stop parroting their propaganda about our desire for 'prestige and status' which make it sound like a vanity issue. We want security - nothing more, nothing less.

This prestige crap is just bogus nonsense, to make us look like swelled heads.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby sanjaykumar » 05 Oct 2009 10:03

So this Australian can't tell the difference between tiny Israel, mad Pakistan and a giant India.

And India is the problem?

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby Anujan » 05 Oct 2009 10:36

What's not a good precedent is the US and the west turning a blind eye to proliferation with war on commies and GOAT as excuses. Fix that first and then we will talk of CTBT.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby milindc » 05 Oct 2009 11:29

SSridhar wrote:The Gareth Evans led commission comes to India and asks to sign CTBT

India will not be allowed to enter NPT as a NWS: Gareth Evans
India, Pakistan and Israel will not be allowed to join the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) as nuclear-weapon states, Gareth Evans, Co-chair of the International Commission on Nuclear Non-proliferation and Disarmament, has said.


Gareth Evans's visit was hosted by Delhi Policy Group. One of the initiatives launched by DPG is Nuclear Policy Stewardship Project, which is supported by the Nuclear Threat Initiative, Washington D.C. NTI is funded, founded and co-chaired by Ted Turner and Sam Nunn.
DPG also has Prof Radha Kumar as one of the trustee. To me, it seems like a US funded lifafa organization that promotes reduction of India's strategic deterrence.

Need to keep a watch on these DPG clowns.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby Tanaji » 06 Oct 2009 16:07

For more details on B. Subbarao

http://www.indiatogether.org/manushi/is ... bbprof.htm

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?209566

Take the facts in, not the slight slant. Of course, for some , the word of a American ambassador >>>>> Indian Supreme Court. Even when its their own precious DAE saying to the contrary:

A new development in the case took place when, in 1994, it came to light that the former attorney-general, K. Parasaran had been informed by the then Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) and Secretary, Department of Atomic Energy (DAE), Dr M. R. Srinivasan, that Subbarao was not carrying any atomic or defence secrets and the Ph.D thesis found in his suitcase was not a classified document. Hence, there was no violation of the Official Secrets Act, and surely no grounds for starting a criminal case against Subbarao. Dr Srinivasan disclosed these facts in a signed article in Hindu. "I find it reprehensible that a naval officer who performed well has been treated so badly by the CBI. The agony that Subbarao and his family have had to endurecan never be adequately compensated," he wrote. It appeared that Parasaran had chosen to ignore Srinivasan's opinion and given an 'illegal' sanction to implicate Subbarao.

Interesting why amongst all other GOI departments, DAE seems to have more than its fair share of controversies.

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Re: India Nuclear News And Discussion

Postby a_bharat » 06 Oct 2009 17:35

Gareth Evans's visit was hosted by Delhi Policy Group. One of the initiatives launched by DPG is Nuclear Policy Stewardship Project, which is supported by the Nuclear Threat Initiative, Washington D.C. NTI is funded, founded and co-chaired by Ted Turner and Sam Nunn.
DPG also has Prof Radha Kumar as one of the trustee. To me, it seems like a US funded lifafa organization that promotes reduction of India's strategic deterrence.

Need to keep a watch on these DPG clowns.


Gareth Evans: former Australian foreign minister, co-chair of Australia-Japan sponsored International Commission on Nuclear Non-Proliferation and Disarmament. Apparently, Brajesh Mishra was also on the panel, though not at the press conference.

Don't understand why these NP hypocrites are allowed into the country in first place. GOI should learn to deal with them with the contempt they deserve. Don't understand why Brajesh Mishra wanted to associate himself with this bunch.


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