Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Gerard wrote:http://www.hindustantimes.com/Images/20 ... iumRes.JPG
Pakistani group Imamia Students Organization burn the US, Israeli and German flags in Karachi, during a rally to condemn the slaying of Marwa Al-Sherbiniin.
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As usual idiots .... what do US and Israel have to do with this killing again?? militant attitudes clearly come out. :roll:
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Baglihar power project under terror radar
“At least 15 terrorists are being specially trained in PoK for an attack on the Baglihar dam across [the] Chenab at Chanderkote-Ramban, 150 km from here,” said Mohammad Shafakat and Mohammad Adnan, the two LeT militants arrested on Saturday from the forests of the Shamashabari range in the frontier district of Kupwara, 120 km from here.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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How about having 10 snipers on each side of the construction project and the housing colony to provide a warm welcome to the paki guests? Assuming of course that they are not welcomed warmly at the LOC itself. The chances of 15 of them ever making it past the perimeter are non existent, the likelihood of a few of them coming inside the compound are very slim indeed.

If there was one occasion where India should have launched a unilateral commando raid at the terrorists training camp this was it. I am sure there are hundreds of intel reports that reach the forces on time. Depending on feasibility, some means of taking out these geezers needs to be found.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Stage set for fresh engagement with Pakistan
And in Yekaterinburg, where Dr. Singh met with President Asif Ali Zardari, the Prime Minister’s inadvertent remarks before the media robbed that encounter of its potential benefits even before it started. The now famous statement about his mandate being limited to discussing terrorism was drafted by National Security Adviser M.K. Narayanan and was meant to be delivered in the presence of the two full delegations before the two leaders began their one-on-one. As soon as everyone was seated, the Prime Minister began speaking. But he didn’t notice the media was still in the room. :roll:
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Another Insurgency Gains in Pakistan
TURBAT, Pakistan — Pakistan faces yet another insurgency in Baluchistan, where local killings have provided a spark for revolt.
Praying for the safety and success of the oppressed Baloch people. Jai Ho.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown recognises the baleful role Pakistan plays in terrorism afflicting the UK:
Sunday 12 July 2009

Transcript of interview with British Forces Broadcasting Service

The Prime Minister was interviewed by the British Forces Broadcasting Service on the topic of Afghanistan, Saturday 11 July 2009.

.................................... If we were to allow the Taliban to be back in power in Afghanistan and Al Qaeda then to have the freedom of manoeuvre it had before 2001, then we would be less safe as a country. So there is a line of terror, what you might call a chain of terror that links what is happening in Afghanistan and Pakistan to the streets of Britain. Three quarters of all terrorist plots that our security services have had to deal with and identify and then prevent have come from those mountainous areas. They have been planned there, there has been cooperation or coordination with people who are active there, and that has been the threat to people on the British streets.

So what we are doing in Afghanistan and in Pakistan, in what is a crucible of terrorism around the borders of Pakistan and Afghanistan, is making the streets of Britain safer as a result of taking on the Afghan Taliban and Al Qaeda and taking on the Pakistani Taliban. ………………….

UK PM Official Website
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Schoolchildren still refuse to sing the national anthem at assemblies, instead breaking into a nationalist Baluch song championing the armed struggle for independence, teachers and parents said.
This will turn out to be a rather long term problem. Young BRiets need to start some research.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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X Posted.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s central role in Islamic terrorism yet again reaffirmed.

UK Tabloid “The Sun” recommends seizing the passports of young British men with the slightest suspicion hanging over them from travelling to the terror training camps in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:
Back Our Boys

……………………. The PM was right when he said there is "a chain of terror that runs from the mountains and towns of Afghanistan to the streets of Britain."

But Mr Brown must back words with action if people are to back a war that aims to beat the Taliban……......

We must also embarrass some of our allies to play a full role instead of playing chicken.

And stop young British men with the slightest suspicion hanging over them from travelling to the terror training camps in Pakistan - by seizing their passports. …………………..

The Sun
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Blast in Mian Channu (Punjab)
At least 15 killed, 70 injured in Mian Channu blast
At least 15 killed and around 70 persons were injured in a bomb blast in Chak-129 near Mian Channu on Monday. The blast has been reported at a local seminary in the area, reports said.
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http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... annu-blast
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Tilak wrote:X-Posted :

**Must watch **

Aunty Naseem gets a thorough a** whooping from Baloch Students and resorts to "taking commercial breaks", especially from them women.. :rotfl:

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Policy Matters – 8th July 2009 39:32
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Uighur Unrest and Pakistan

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Effects of Uighur unrest on Pakistan
. . . the ethnic clashes between Uighurs and Han Chinese could have a long-term effect on Sino-Pakistan relations. . . . the manner in which these ethnic tensions play out in the coming months could fracture the ‘all-weather’ friendship that Pakistan and China have long enjoyed.

But if a militant movement that can trace its roots to Pakistan gains momentum in Xinjiang, the ire that Beijing is currently venting on the Uighurs — by detaining 1,400 of them, closing down mosques and upholding economically repressive policies — could be unleashed on Islamabad instead. 8)

In 2001, it was reported that up to 10,000 Uighurs had arrived in Pakistan to receive religious education. Many of these students were also believed to have received militant training and were recruited by the Lashkar-i-Taiba and Hizbul Mujahideen to fight in Kashmir.They continue to have a significant presence in Afghanistan and Pakistan’s tribal areas.

In April, Chinese officials met NWFP politicians to request that access to Uighur separatists be curtailed. China also asked for Uighur militants in Fata to be identified and apprehended. Now, a militant uprising in Xinjiang is in danger of being seen by Beijing as the consequence of Pakistan’s failure to follow through on its promises.

Under Gen Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan was able to preserve its friendship with China by addressing the Uighur problem head on. Uighurs as well as Uzbeks and Tajiks who sympathised with their pan-Turkic movement, were hunted down. From the late 1990s to 2003, Uighurs were expelled from madressahs and their businesses were shut down. In October 2004, Pakistani troops also killed ETIM leader Hasan Mahsum in South Waziristan. This aggressive stance against the Uighurs made Islamabad’s allegiance to Beijing on the Xinjiang issue clear. It also set aside any concerns that Pakistanis would want to extend a helping hand to their Muslim brothers and sisters in China.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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The issue of a non-career junior level officer as Ambassador to France from Pakistan is not going away
The decision to nominate Jehanzeb Khan, currently the Punjab government’s secretary for livestock and dairy development, as the next envoy to France defies logic unless the purpose is to acquire French expertise in manufacturing cheese. . . . has been clumsily justified on the ground that he is said to be close to the brother of President Nicolas Sarkozy. The unwarranted insinuation is that the decisions of the French government will be influenced in its dealings with Pakistan by the personal relationships of the Sarkozy family.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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arun wrote:
UK Tabloid “The Sun” recommends seizing the passports of young British men with the slightest suspicion hanging over them from travelling to the terror training camps in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:
It's a sad day for Britain when the only news outlet recommending the right thing is a tabloid. The UK is doomed.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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SSridhar wrote:The issue of a non-career junior level officer as Ambassador to France from Pakistan is not going away
The decision to nominate Jehanzeb Khan, currently the Punjab government’s secretary for livestock and dairy development, as the next envoy to France defies logic unless the purpose is to acquire French expertise in manufacturing cheese. . . .
This posting is most appropriate. Jehan-Jehan-Zeb (dekhi-to-kaatli) Khan has tremendous experience in livestock rearing with lovesticks, especially goats and sheep, and would definitely want to explore whether Pakistani penchant for the Ayesha, can be brought into mainstream of romance, and what better place to find this out than en la ville d'amour, en Paris!

It has been learned that Begum Jehanzeb Khan will not be joining her Shohar in Paris in the beginning, but a white mountain goat named Reshma with long reshmi zulfen would do the honors at most of the diplomatic functions. Somehow the goat seems to have won Mr Jehanzeb Khan's confidence and heart.

Stay tuned!
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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:rotfl:
http://www.newkerala.com/nkfullnews-1-72129.html
Pakistani female MP booked for stealing credit card

Islamabad, Jul 13 : Parlimentarians should be a role model for the public but it is the other way round in Pakistan with many of them getting controversial for activities incompatible to their positions.

The latest in the series was stealing of credit cards by a female member of Punjab
provincial Assembly belonging to Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz), which embarassed the top party echelon.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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arun wrote: As of now it looks the US is not taking the bait.

The so called Pakistani “offer” which was made by Maj. Gen Athar Abbas has been rejected by Richard Holbrook as a “non starter”.
just watched Hole Broke on CNN saying he is ruling nothing in or ruling nothing out. So afterall US is going to be talking to "Good Taliban".
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Gerard wrote:ISI boss in touch with Delhi
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh today said the ISI chief has been briefing India on progress with bringing the 26/11 plotters to book, a startling revelation indicating that New Delhi is willing to forsake the rejectionist rhetoric of recent months and take a more pragmatic approach to dialogue with Pakistan.
Meanwhile the Pakistani media is reporting :wink: :
"DG ISI not involved in talks with India"

ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan’s military has refuted the statement of Indian Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh that Director General Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Lieutenant General Ahmad Shuja Pasha held a meeting with Indian High Commissioner to Pakistan Sharat Sabharwal, saying Indian Government should clarify its premier statement.

No meeting between Director General ISI and Indian High Commissioner in Pakistan has been taken place, military sources told a private TV Channel. The military sources said that the Indian Government should clarify the statement of Indian Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh. ..........................

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Dipanker wrote:
arun wrote: As of now it looks the US is not taking the bait.

The so called Pakistani “offer” which was made by Maj. Gen Athar Abbas has been rejected by Richard Holbrook as a “non starter”.
just watched Hole Broke on CNN saying he is ruling nothing in or ruling nothing out. So afterall US is going to be talking to "Good Taliban".
I missed that. Please do post the relevant excerpt along with the link . TIA.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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As the US lawmaker said the other day (and which was posted here), the Pakistanis cannot reveal any truth to their people. After having fed their citizens with lies and propaganda, it will be traumatic to tell them that the reality is diametrically opposite to what they have been informed so far. This also forms the basis of the editorial in DT today.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Dipanker wrote:
arun wrote: As of now it looks the US is not taking the bait.

The so called Pakistani “offer” which was made by Maj. Gen Athar Abbas has been rejected by Richard Holbrook as a “non starter”.
just watched Hole Broke on CNN saying he is ruling nothing in or ruling nothing out. So afterall US is going to be talking to "Good Taliban".
Not a surprise at all.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Vivek_A wrote:
arun wrote:
UK Tabloid “The Sun” recommends seizing the passports of young British men with the slightest suspicion hanging over them from travelling to the terror training camps in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:
It's a sad day for Britain when the only news outlet recommending the right thing is a tabloid. The UK is doomed.
To me, the interesting thing is that the day this passport detaining program starts, UKstan will lose much of its vaunted moral high ground to preach to Dilli on various artificial pressure points like cashmere, terrorist rites etc. Or so I hope.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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We have the Pakistani Taliban and the Afghan Taliban. Which is the "good Taliban" among these - from a US PoV - the Pakistani Taliban?

And, we have the Afghan Taliban's former FM stating that India should recognise them!! And, of course these are the bad Taliban from a US PoV.

And, then we have Iran - bad guys from US PoV, but good guys from Indian PoV.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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IMO key to break up Pakistan lies in break up of Afghanistan. If Afghanistan is broken up so that Pashtuns of the south are made an independent nation Pashtunistan, the rest of Afghanistan can go to Tajikistan, Ujbekistan, and Iran.

Pashtun of the FATA and NWFP then can join their breathren into making a Greater Pashtunistan. With FATA and NWFP gone, liberation of Baluchistan will only matter of time. Then it will be turn of SindhuDesh.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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NRao wrote:We have the Pakistani Taliban and the Afghan Taliban. Which is the "good Taliban" among these - from a US PoV - the Pakistani Taliban?

And, we have the Afghan Taliban's former FM stating that India should recognise them!! And, of course these are the bad Taliban from a US PoV.

And, then we have Iran - bad guys from US PoV, but good guys from Indian PoV.
For Pakistan all Afghan Talibans are "Good Taliban", from US POV only a subset of them are "Good Taliban", those who are willing down to lay down their arms and severe their ties with Alqaeda.

Now Hamid Gul has stated that "Good Taliban" are willing to severe their ties with Alqaeda, to me this sounds like Taqqia (sp?).
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Dipanker, true (about the breakup of Afghanistan).
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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r_subramanian wrote:Blast in Mian Channu (Punjab)
At least 15 killed, 70 injured in Mian Channu blast
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-07-13-voa10.cfm

Officials in Pakistan say at least nine people, including seven children, were killed in an explosion at the home of a Muslim cleric in eastern Punjab province.

At least 70 people were injured and more than 20 neighboring homes collapsed in the blast.

Officials say Monday's explosion occurred in the Mian Channu area at the home of a local cleric who provided religious education to children.

Local Police Chief Kamran Khan say there was evidence that the home was used by local militants. He added that police found rocket launchers and several jackets used by suicide bombers in the debris. ????????
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Kahin galti se to nahi phoot gaya bum?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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archan wrote:Kahin galti se to nahi phoot gaya bum?
The only hint here is - at the home of a local cleric who provided religious education to children.... :rotfl:
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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SSridhar wrote:Dipanker, true (about the breakup of Afghanistan).
Though it will be wrong to give up Tajik regions, Uzbek regions, Hazara regions, etc to Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Iran, etc. These regions with a motley of ethnicities minus the Pushtuns should be forged together as a new Afghanistan, and its security should be ensured by the neighboring countries, Russia and India. Such an Afghanistan should remain a buffer, a meeting place for the various nations. India gains nothing from giving away these areas to the respective countries, in fact only loses.

Pushtunistan should however go its own way into independence.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Afghanistan should survive and let a separate Pashtunistan have its capital in Peshawar. Problem is access to the sea. Unless a separate Baluchistan has an agreement with the new Pashtunistan for sea access. Don't know how the terrain is for roads from Peshawar to Gwadar.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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shiv wrote:Afghanistan should survive and let a separate Pashtunistan have its capital in Peshawar. Problem is access to the sea. Unless a separate Baluchistan has an agreement with the new Pashtunistan for sea access. Don't know how the terrain is for roads from Peshawar to Gwadar.

If wishes were horses...
India would be more than willing to provide Pushtunistan with sea access through Baluchistan, India's 29th State, incorporated into India as per the overwhelming support of the Baluchi people through a referendum on .....

If wishes were horses...
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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shravan wrote:
archan wrote:Kahin galti se to nahi phoot gaya bum?
The only hint here is - at the home of a local cleric who provided religious education to children.... :rotfl:
It seems he had all the paraphernalia i.e. rocket launchers, bombs, suide-bomber vests etc. needed to provide religious education to the children!
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Dipanker wrote:
archan wrote:Kahin galti se to nahi phoot gaya bum?
shravan wrote:The only hint here is - at the home of a local cleric who provided religious education to children.... :rotfl:
It seems he had all the paraphernalia i.e. rocket launchers, bombs, suide-bomber vests etc. needed to provide religious education to the children!
The basic requirements of the school curriculum need to fulfilled.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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SSridhar wrote:
Dipanker wrote:
just watched Hole Broke on CNN saying he is ruling nothing in or ruling nothing out. So afterall US is going to be talking to "Good Taliban".
Not a surprise at all.
And on the quid pro part, here is DDM dorquette Jyothis Malhotra, who once said Indians and TSPians shaould make love (this was time during Mush) while the "extremists on both sides fight it out at the LoC", quoting a 'western official'

But western diplomats in Kabul also believed that India will, sooner than later, have to pay a price for Obama's generosity.

"A serious discussion on Kashmir with Pakistan will have to start," one western diplomat said.

"Pakistan, which is crucial in the fight against terror, should also feel that it is getting something out of this. Even though the world understands what India has gone through with the Mumbai terror attacks [ Images ], Delhi should also try and understand what Pakistan is going through internally, including on the terrorism front," the diplomat added.
So now TSP has managed to pull of an equal equal on the Mumbai slaughter. Sometimes I wonder if without 5th columnists in India, in complete collusion with west as paid dogs, if US were able to commit such dayling fraud.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Unfortunately, India cannot work with Taliban unless they form a stable govt in Afghanistan. India's relationship with Afghan people will continue in the meantime. It will try to help them as much as it can, and as much as it is allowed to.

If Taliban wants to have cordial relationship with India, they must first demonstrate their friendly intentions without any ambiguity. They should do something dramatic and tangible to prove their good-intentions to heal the deep scars they inflicted upon India in the past decade - Kandhahar, Baniyan Buddhas, and Jijya and yellow ribbons.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Pak Supreme Court asks GoP to provide 'solid grounds' for detaining Hafeez Saeed

So, we can expect Hafeez Saeed will be released for lack of evidence after the Sharm-el-Sheikh meeting. It would be better if he is released even as MMS and Gilani are talking there.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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India would consider it, if their capital is Peshawar.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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Pakistanis Return To Swat Valley
Under military protection, thousands of Pakistani refugees began heading home to the northwest Swat Valley after nearly three months of fighting.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

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archan wrote:Kahin galti se to nahi phoot gaya bum?
Revenge of the Abdul! The maulana was "rearing" him, and he placed the bum in strategic posishun.
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