GeorgeWelch wrote:Fighters have to be continually upgraded if they are not to become obsolescent. Who will be funding all these upgrade programs?
Asit P wrote:Russia and India ofcourse.
GeorgeWelch wrote:Russia has purchased how many MiG-35s? Why would they pay ANYTHING for MiG-35 upgrades?
Russia will fund squat. Rather you will pay Russia through the nose to develop upgrades.
How many SU 30 MKIs did Russia buy? But aren't they getting upgraded? Why isn't Russia funding "squat" for its upgrade (as suggested by you).
Asit P wrote:Both the countries are already working on FGFA and there is no law that states technologies developed for FGFA cannot be incorporated in MIG 35.
GeorgeWelch wrote:The basic technology is never the problem, it's the integration and testing that is so costly. That's where it pays to have another party willing to foot the bill to do all the integration work.
Oh so you are trying to suggest that integration and testing of a radar or an engine (in an aircraft) is more costly than actually developing the radar or an engine!! Beats me completely !! Moreover, what gives you the impression that Russia will develop the "basic technology" and refuse to " foot the bill" (what ever that means) to integrate the same in Mig 35? Isn't it helping us integrate Brahmos in Sukhois which in most likelihood will not be used by them?
GeorgeWelch wrote:The US stockpiles MASSIVE amounts of spares for its fighters. If you get the SH, you can piggyback off its logistics support and guarantee availability of parts for decades to come.
Asit P wrote:The US also stockpiles massive amounts of sanctions which can be imposed at any point of time. Since you have already assumed the worst in case of MiG 35 (and you were very right in assuming so), let me now assume the worst for SH. What if some time in the future, USA imposes a sanction on India owing to changed international scenarios (as it has done in the past)? What will India do then?
GeorgeWelch wrote:The same thing they'll be forced to do if they select the MiG-35.
As I said, even in worst case scenario you will not be worse off than MiG-35 and the best case you will be significantly better off.
Absolutely wrong. Incase if Russia does not buy MIG 35 and decides to close its production line, then provisions can easily be made for manufacturing the spares of Mig 35 in India itself. Leveraging its rich experience of manufacturing the Russian birds, India will have no problems in manufacturing the spares of MIG 35. But if USA decides to impose sanctions on us, then we will have no alternatives. 126-200 of our birds will become hanger queens straight away.