AmitR wrote:Andrew DeCristofaro wrote:
bring the proof that russkies going to ask another billion or in Mr N Rao's language show URL for this
price of gorshkov is still cheaper and its been already discussed but if you guys want to discuss more then i am ready
for nuke sub as if whenever india wants a nuke sub just order it russia.
Since you seem to have such deep understanding of the Russis can you tell us what exactly the state of the Mig35 and PakFA right now. What is the level of advancement and development that you see in the avionics, electronics, bambootronics and stealthoshky that the Russis have achieved. No need of URL also mr Putin.
first talking of stealth no MRCA going to offer any kind of stealth as PETER CRISS ex aussie air chief said for super hornet "its RCS is marginally superior to older hornets and its not at the same level what was told to us initially" and enemies will have AEWACS as well.
so what kind of stealth americans offering to india for shornet?? and how stealthy are these semi stealthy jets when carrying external loads which increase the RCS many folds and also if these jets are stealthy then some measures to reduce the RCS of mig35 had already been adopted and you already know about that.
and this is MRCA thread don't bring PAK FA here.
and it doesn't matter whether russian air force uses mig35 or not but it doesn't mean it becomes inferior,if this be the case then russian air force did not induct su30mki either.
and americans took 5 years to mature their aesa since they first mounted their apg63(v2)
on their f15,and as for zhuk aesa radar it will have all new processing module,both simultaneous air to air or air to ground detection,lpi and comparable detection range to rbe2 aesa or apg79 but it will be inferior in aesa t/r module tech.LPI can also be added to pulse doppler or PESA radars as well.
and apg63(v2) had apg63(v1)'s back end processing and this was not upto mark
and then in apg63(v3) they had all new back end processing and when russia showed zhuk ae this radar also had back end processing of zhuk me which was not upto mark and thats why all new back end processing going to be employed in zhuk ae.
and there is more technical data available for zhuk aesa prototype radar and its detection ranges for air to air and air to ground than any other western radar.
and for other electronics its none the less inferior either to any other contender whether its irst,soar,solo systems and for EW there is already a inbuilt italian jammer on mig35 and there is a option of elta8222 and four of these elta jammers can be used on mig35 simultaneously.
and those "ale 99 jamming pods" on growler can be fitted to any other aircraft as well
and if someone has doubt about strike capability of russkie aircraft and considering russia also allows foreign weapons integration on their aircrafts then all i can say that when india acquires JDAMs of various masses from 250kg to 1 ton
if configured
then even a mig21 bison will be capable of carrying 2*250kg JDAMs
and mig27 can carry 4 JDAMs of 500kg or (4*250kg JDAMs+2*500kg JDAMs)
(even better when upgraded with al31 engine)
and upgraded mig29 would be able to carry 4*500kg JDAMs OR (4*KAB500+litening pod)
or 4*kh29 stand off missiles
and mig35 is more capable than 21,27,29.
and other option will be israeli JDAM but israel is yet to come up with its israeli version of JDAM
but MRCA aircraft are able to carry these PGM farther than mig27.29 but how far IAF needs to drop PGMs from homeland whether its going to be somewhere in middle east or somewhere in the east for which IAF has enough mkis but this situation is also highly unlikely