Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby Prem » 29 May 2009 06:17

Dystopia or Myopia of islam.

A black lie
By Dr Ayaa .Hajoor . Khayal
The economists have stated that more than fifty percent of Pakistanis live below the poverty-line. The statement is a black lie. The fifty per cent are not at all living below the poverty-line. They are just gasping for breath below the line. There is a fundamental difference between 'living and 'gasping'.
The economists have betrayed their utter ignorance of the reality. By telling a lie, they have insulted the gaspers. The economists are lucky that the gaspers don't have the financial means for hiring a lawyer for claiming damages for the insult in a law-court.
The misery of the gaspers is not smuggled into Pakistan from abroad. It is a purely indigenous creation. It is created by a handful of extremely privileged Pakistanis for the Pakistani masses. Thus the extremely unprivileged Pakistanis are a creation of the extremely privileged Pakistanis.

According to a news, these persons are not allowed to seek refuge in Sindh. The implication is that Sindh is an independent country and not a part of Pakistan. The Displaced Persons being dangerous foreigners must be kept at a safe distance.
Here is a remedy for these persons. They should request Sindh: "Please Sindh, kindly allow us to pitch our tents temporarily at the bottom of the Arabian Sea. There we can't be any sort of nuisance
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... lack-lie/1

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby KLNMurthy » 29 May 2009 06:38

NRao wrote:From the article written by a Paki security expert in Bedford, UK:


Obama has bought himself a special problem. Clearly this is a goofup royal on the part of the US - not understanding the regional dynamics.

Now trying to bring countries such as China, Saudi Arabia and Iran - countries of influence, cannot solve the problem. These countries have influence at some levels and as this sentence clearly states that influence does not percolate to other layers within Pakistani society. Just like Obama, these countries will give their two cents, get something in return and the problem will resurface in the future.

Nor will shutting down Indian consulates in Afghanistan.

Obama chacha, it is dynamics. Guess he does not understand its meaning. Well ...........


Pretty funny to be begging Saudi and China for help with Pak, since the problem essentially is that Pak is the tool of those two countries.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby Anujan » 29 May 2009 06:40

Petraeus says releasing detainee photos would be risky

Releasing images of the alleged abuse of prisoners in U.S. custody could damage Pakistan's efforts to battle Islamic militants as well as increase the risks to American troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, the top U.S. commander in the region has told a federal judge.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby KLNMurthy » 29 May 2009 06:46

shynee wrote:Taliban Attack: Why Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI)?

Support for the Taliban, as well as other militant groups, is coordinated by operatives inside the shadowy S Wing of Pakistan's spy service, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, [American government] officials said. There is even evidence that ISI operatives meet regularly with Taliban commanders to discuss whether to intensify or scale back violence before the Afghan elections.

Something has clearly happened to provoke Taliban's ire against its longtime patron. The attack was a retaliation for sure, but it was not a retaliation against the Army's operations; it was a retaliation against the ISI's actions. We can make an educated guess that the ISI has finally moved to cast off its terrorist wards. Indeed, Army chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayan used to lead the ISI, and as the Swat operation makes clear that he has committed himself ousting the Taliban, it's not surprising that he would push the ISI in the same direction. If that is the case, Pakistan security forces may finally be united in opposition to the Taliban, which could have significant consequences for the war in Afghanistan.


Picture a spoiled and vicious brat, used to being egged on by its father to crap on the neighbor's lawn. Now picture the father making a show of spanking the brat when the neighbor's oversized uncle has a word with the father. Now picture the uncomprehending brat beating his father with his little fists out of rage and frustration.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby KLNMurthy » 29 May 2009 06:48

Prem wrote:Dystopia or Myopia of islam.

A black lie
By Dr Ayaa .Hajoor . Khayal
The economists have stated that more than fifty percent of Pakistanis live below the poverty-line. The statement is a black lie. The fifty per cent are not at all living below the poverty-line. They are just gasping for breath below the line. There is a fundamental difference between 'living and 'gasping'.
The economists have betrayed their utter ignorance of the reality. By telling a lie, they have insulted the gaspers. The economists are lucky that the gaspers don't have the financial means for hiring a lawyer for claiming damages for the insult in a law-court.
The misery of the gaspers is not smuggled into Pakistan from abroad. It is a purely indigenous creation. It is created by a handful of extremely privileged Pakistanis for the Pakistani masses. Thus the extremely unprivileged Pakistanis are a creation of the extremely privileged Pakistanis.

According to a news, these persons are not allowed to seek refuge in Sindh. The implication is that Sindh is an independent country and not a part of Pakistan. The Displaced Persons being dangerous foreigners must be kept at a safe distance.
Here is a remedy for these persons. They should request Sindh: "Please Sindh, kindly allow us to pitch our tents temporarily at the bottom of the Arabian Sea. There we can't be any sort of nuisance
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... lack-lie/1

sindhis are being sensible if this is true. Obviously the IDPs are going to be full of terrorists.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby John Snow » 29 May 2009 08:12

Obama is clueless in Foreign policy ( as debated during the election). He is dependent on the political side old Billary hands. On the DOD side and SD side it is full of TSPaki sympathisers from yester years. (needless to say the Cohens and his tutulages like Dr. Tim doing the think tank circuits), so any thing that we see in concrete terms will be wink wink nod nod to Pakis not threaten the US interests while they (Pakis) can have a full swing at India.

If Taliban stops attacks on Afghans unkil is happy, even if nukes fall into Taliban hands that is fine for uncle, because the administration of Obama is commited to 1% doctrine of Dick C. As evidenced by slowly back tracking of Obama on Gitmo, Pictures CIA $exin^ up the evidence of WMD in Iraq outing of Vallery are all under the carpet now.

So its all back to square one for India. :roll:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby NRao » 29 May 2009 08:13

They should request Sindh: "Please Sindh, kindly allow us to pitch our tents temporarily at the bottom of the Arabian Sea.


I am not sure if the UN Under Sea Law (UNUSL) allows to pitch a tent at the bottom of any sea on a temporary basis. It allows - for sure - on a permanent basis.

There we can't be any sort of nuisance


I agree with that, pitching a tent at the bottom of the sea - even on a temporary basis - will not cause any sort of nuisance. Will give a break to Obama too. No need for Af-Pak policy.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby SSridhar » 29 May 2009 09:05

From the edits in DT today

The national press is now bold in describing the TTP as a terrorist organisation . . .


the media kept repeating that there was a “possibility” that India had organised the suicide-van. One TV anchor actually concluded that it was indeed India (and also America) that intended to create chaos in Pakistan to such an extent that it may allow them to strip Pakistan of its nuclear weapons. He went to say that the terrorists dying in Swat were all Indians.

Gradually, and unfortunately, the trend seems to be to move the focus away from the Taliban and Al Qaeda and bring it on to America and India. The “link” established is through the Taliban, however. Now that the Pakistan Army is fighting Baitullah Mehsud and his terrorists in Bajaur and Malakand, it is acceptable to say that he has sold out to the Americans and Indians. Every explosion that takes place therefore is immediately attributed to the “foreign hand” of America and India. . . . What is even more alarming is that at times government spokesmen actually encourage this kind of falsehood.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby Vivek_A » 29 May 2009 09:20

TFT

Peace, security and nuclear weapons

Najam Sethi's E d i t o r i a l

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Has Pakistan’s quest for nuclear weapons brought it security, prosperity and stability as envisioned by its military and political leaders? Or has it served to reinforce the civil-military imbalance without enhancing security or building prosperity or strengthening democracy? These questions are as relevant today as they were in 1974 when India tested a nuclear device and Pakistan responded by embarking on a secret plan to build a similar bomb for Pakistan. Or in 1998 when India tested five nuclear devices and Pakistan tit-for-tatted, despite the huge economic and military costs which followed in its wake.

India has since consistently refused to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and Pakistan has hid behind India’s skirts and spurned it too. But there has been one big difference. India didn’t have to pay any price for defying the West because it hadn’t entered into any strategic alliances with it. But when the cold war ended, the US walked out of Af-Pak in 1989 after accusing it of having crossed the nuclear “red light” and subjecting it to a range of economic and military sanctions in the 1990s for its nuclear defiance.

On May 11, 1998, India upped the ante by testing five nuclear devices. In dismal straits already, Pakistan could test and be damned, or abstain and hope to reap rewards from the West. For over two weeks, Pakistan’s civilian leadership dithered. But, apart from some phone calls from President Bill Clinton to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif with vague promises of a financial reward, there was nothing concrete on the table.

Meanwhile the rhetoric from India was becoming more threatening and taunting by the day. The gist of it was: if you have the bomb, show it now; if you haven’t got it, get ready to be thrown into the Arabian Sea for meddling in Kashmir. In the event, all doubts and confusions in the mind of Pakistan’s people, media, military and civilian leadership were swept aside and all were shoved on to the same page of national anger and honour, propelling Pakistan to test six devices and going “one up”. The day after, as expected, the sky fell on Pakistan’s head. Faced with a suffocating economic embargo by the West, the Sharif government devalued the rupee by 50 per cent and froze over US$10 billion in private forex reserves. The sanctions were replaced by huge doses of economic and military assistance after the US “returned” to Af-Pak following 9/11 and Pakistan’s military leadership agreed to another “partnership” with it, as in the 1960s and 1980s, in pursuit of American goals in the region. That partnership has now been reinforced in the wake of the Taliban’s threat to the state of Pakistan, mainly because of the West’s fear that Pakistan’s nuclear weapons could fall into the “wrong hands”.

If Pakistan’s nuclear program has been the bane of its life by provoking instead of resolving conflict, it has also been a boon by “renting in America”. But has the bomb served its original purpose of bringing security to Pakistan and obviating the need for a prohibitively expensive conventional arms race in the region with India? The record shows an interesting relationship between provocation, lack of conflict resolution and deterrence.

In the 1980s India seized Siachin and provoked Pakistan to support the Khalistan insurgency in Punjab. The two countries edged towards war after India launched “Operation Brasstacks” in 1987. Pakistan’s dictator General Zia ul Haq announced that Pakistan was a screw driver’s turn away from the bomb and reinforced the signal by nudging Dr A Q Khan to confide to Indian journalist Kuldip Nayar in early 1988 that Pakistan had the bomb. Did this stop India from teaching Pakistan a lesson? In the 1990s, Pakistan bled India in Kashmir. But India didn’t launch a war against Pakistan across the international border, not even after the Kargil provocation by Pakistan in 1999. Was the invisible deterrence working overtime? Again, in 2001 December, India was provoked by the Pakistani-backed jihadis, who attacked the Indian parliament in New Delhi, to move its army to the border with Pakistan and think of retaliatory strikes. Did Pakistan’s nuclear deterrent halt India in its tracks? Much the same thing happened in 2008 after Mumbai. India was outraged but didn’t retaliate militarily. Did Pakistan’s nuclear deterrent play a role?

The short answer is: Yes. But the nagging question remains: if the cause of war – a serious provocation by one or the other in the presence of passionate unresolved disputes – is removed through conflict-resolution, there is no need for expanding the nuclear deterrence in Pakistan. Certainly, in view of a continuing expansion of Pakistan’s conventional military might, a de-emphasis on nuclear weapons coupled with better safety procedures is just the sort of restraint that is needed to reassure the world and bury conspiracy theories of Pakistan’ impending dismemberment. A starting point in this direction could be to revitalize the process of conflict resolution entered into by India and Pakistan in 2004 as soon as possible. India should now realize that the oblique threat of terrorism which haunts it is already an existential issue for Pakistan and nothing can be gained by putting pre-conditions on the peace process.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby Singha » 29 May 2009 10:47

there were again reports of gunmen on nearby rooftops sniping at police yesterday. but could just be the locals venting their ire (as in india people throw stones) because out there people keep a ak47 like we keep a cycle or a cellphone.

ISI has a large HQ in Islamabad. it should be razed with a truck bomb to teach them a lesson.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby kancha » 29 May 2009 10:49

NRao wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU


OT, but one wonders of the effect on the Chinese society due to the low fertility rates. There have been discussions on the same, but this documentary puts it in a different light.

Chinese fertility rate over the years

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby archan » 29 May 2009 11:01

As one reads Jehad Sethi's editorial, it appears that the evil yindoos have instigated Pakistan into scoring self-goal upon self-goal to the extent that it now faces an "existential threat". Ramana mentioned Bharmasur earlier. This reminds me of that very story. The evil yindoo nation dances and teases and the mardana Pakistan matches mover for move. One hopes that the time is near when the yindoo will put his hand on his own head...

Also notice the Jehad Sethi calls the talib threat as existential threat to pakiland but calls the talk of its impending break-up as fantasy. What else does existential threat mean, mujahid Sethi?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby rsharma » 29 May 2009 11:04

Amber G. wrote:
rsharma wrote:.....
That was one of the most honest articles to have come out of Pakistani press!
May be its due to the fact that the author is probably a Parsi (surname Hoodbhoy)!

Most already know, but Pervez Hoodbhoy (graduate of MIT) is one of a few (about 2, or may be 3, IMO) well known physicist in the land of pure who has done a decent work in Physics... also the article is similar to *many* others which he has produced in Paki or outside press..


Thanx for the tip Amber!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby ramana » 29 May 2009 11:07

All those Af-pak articles are the airing of different opinions to test the reaction. The big thing is the US is convinced of the TSP false fear factor and is airing options to soothe them. However the real reasons for TSP's dyslexia is its own birth story midwifed by Britain. Remove the kabila guards and see how it all settles down.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby Sanjay M » 29 May 2009 11:44

KV Rao wrote:Picture a spoiled and vicious brat, used to being egged on by its father to crap on the neighbor's lawn. Now picture the father making a show of spanking the brat when the neighbor's oversized uncle has a word with the father. Now picture the uncomprehending brat beating his father with his little fists out of rage and frustration.



Or picture LTTE attacking IPKF, or assassinating Rajiv Gandhi.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby SSridhar » 29 May 2009 12:58

Taxila's Heritage at stake from the Taliban - TFT Article

I learnt from a friend that the winds of change are threatening to blow over Taxila; that the Taxila Museum has received warnings. People fear for the safety of the sculptures of the Budhha and the Bodhisattvas and other precious historical arte facts housed in the museum. People worry about the Dharmarajika stupa; in the shadow of the menacing Taliban, people fear another Bamiyan.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby SSridhar » 29 May 2009 13:03

SUCH GUP - TFT

Horror of horrors

The Taliban eagerly dispatch the sons of ordinary folk to paradise, either by slaughter or by buying destitute boys for suicide missions, whereas they have an entirely different agenda for their own offspring. The son of Muslim Khan, spokesman of the Taliban, is a science student at Sarhad University where, horror of horrors, there is co-education and where, further horrors, the rational sciences are taught of which Khan Jr is an eager pupil. Talk about double standards!

They should know


An interesting exchange took place between the two top guns of the Punjab the other day. A fly on the wall reports that The Man of Steel’s Talented Bro said to the Guv that Pakistan really needed to solve the Kashmir issue. “But we’ve solved the Kashmir issue” replied the Guv. “Oh really?” asked Talented Bro, “how so?” “India’s taken Kashmir, while we’ve taken the Kashmiris” quipped the Guv. They should know, they’re both from the lovely Vale.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby SSridhar » 29 May 2009 15:29

Indians should be proud to be a 'Paki'
I WAS recently co-hosting an ‘ open mic’ event with the creators of Meri Kahani (My Story), www.merikahani.ca <http://www.merikahani.ca> . Open mic is a safe space for South Asians to speak their mind about almost everything and anything. Very therapeutic and definitely a forum for an open-minded public. I didn’t speak but I gave an opening statement about “Reclaiming the word Paki”. I was encouraged by the feedback I received.

Of course, some of my Indian friends ( just some ) really cracked me up with some of their comments: “Paki does not affect me. I am from India”. News flash! The word Paki is used by all racists for all people from the Indian subcontinent. {The first time I see a Pakistani calling it the "Indian subcontinent'} That’s a bit like saying that the ‘N ‘ word affects Black people from Africa only and not the Caribbean. How ignorant can anyone be around race politics!

Fight racism, reclaim ‘Paki’....... Proud to be a Paki Canadian!


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby vsudhir » 29 May 2009 16:02

No tolerance to terror from Pak: Krishna

SM Krishna interview in India Today

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby shiv » 29 May 2009 16:37

harbans wrote:harbans , it would be really good if you could cut out the un-necessary smileys when posting news regarding blasts , really doesn't look civil.

I actually did endeavour (and was consious about not adding one when i posted this) to put a 'smiley' where no casuality figure was mentioned. Remember..(this was just heard and no other news of casualities etc mentioned)...before you get to moral pontificating.

Unnecessary moral pontification is not civil too Nihat Ji.


With Pakistan you need to be sure if it is a bomb blast or a bulb burst in a vacuum which happens in Pakistan. If the latter - it is a trivial matter. Chinese bulbs you know - and erratic power supply and all. Also Indian agents..

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby adityaS » 29 May 2009 16:44

^^^ Isn't Walid Phares writing what seems to be the US aim in this whole mess? Drag India into the fighting, and withdraw slowly so that no one says too loudly that they've landed into what is almost Vietnam 2.0 .

Other news articles:

Article about the so-called "good" Taliban who have kidnapped an journalist who converted:

Taliban keep grip on kidnapped Canadian

For Pakistan, there are still two kinds of Taliban - the good and the bad. Hafiz Gul Bahadur of the North Waziristan tribal area is reckoned as good Taliban.
...
However, his involvement in the abduction late last year in Bunna, North-West Frontier Province (NWFP), of Canadian journalist Beverly Giesbrecht, who converted to Islam and who is now known as Khadija Abdul Qahhar, exposes the problems of dealing even with "good" Taliban, and the mess they can cause because of their connections with Pakistan.


Also, an article on how AlQ is apparently behind all extremist groups in FakAp:

Al-Qaeda spreads its tentacles

Unlike in Iraq, where al-Qaeda chose to participate directly in battles with its own frontline fighters and under its own brand name, bin Laden's al-Qaeda network in South Asia is increasingly content to play a role behind the scenes, influencing key players in the struggle and furthering its political interests, said Western terrorism analysts and Afghans.
...
Both US military and Afghan security officials confirmed a steady movement - by air from Dubai and other aerial hubs, by land across Iran and water from the Gulf - of international jihadis from the Middle East to South Asia. Many Arabs, Chechens and other foreign fighters recently completed tours of fighting in Iraq, where al-Qaeda suffered significant setbacks.


Why are they foreign fighters, now, and not terrorists?


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby sum » 29 May 2009 19:06

ISI has a large HQ in Islamabad. it should be razed with a truck bomb to teach them a lesson.

Some sources reporting 15 ISI goons hallaled....

The rawalpindi ISI GHQ was anyways targetted last year killing a busload of ISI people...the wannabe attacker got the hand signal of the previous day (to allow him to pass through) instead of curret one which prevented him from helping more ISI afsars inside the HQ from getting their 72 since he had to blow himself/his car up outside

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby NRao » 29 May 2009 19:57

There you have it BRiets. Sleep well here on out.

Swat Campaign undeterred By Bombs In Pakistani Cities

Pakis can afford to loose a few more ISI HQs.

And, now:

"They are anti-state as well as anti-Islam. Therefore, there is no mercy for them," Interior Minister Rehman Malik told ARY OneWorld television news channel.


The catch all phrase for progress.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby pran » 29 May 2009 20:57

"They are anti-state as well as anti-Islam. Therefore, there is no mercy for them," Interior Minister Rehman Malik told ARY OneWorld television news channel.


The battle has always been to define islam. First the pakis tried to define islam against hindus, then tried against Qadianis and Shias. Now the problem is ,having defined Taliban as the purest brand of Islam ,it is hard to get a divine sanction from a mullah on payroll.
The irony for the pakis is that danda from uncle bahadur and baksheesh is making the redefine islam again making a joke of themselves in front of the ummah.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby Samay » 29 May 2009 21:13

John Snow wrote:Obama is clueless in Foreign policy ( as debated during the election). He is dependent on the political side old Billary hands. On the DOD side and SD side it is full of TSPaki sympathisers from yester years. (needless to say the Cohens and his tutulages like Dr. Tim doing the think tank circuits), so any thing that we see in concrete terms will be wink wink nod nod to Pakis not threaten the US interests while they (Pakis) can have a full swing at India.

If Taliban stops attacks on Afghans unkil is happy, even if nukes fall into Taliban hands that is fine for uncle, because the administration of Obama is commited to 1% doctrine of Dick C. As evidenced by slowly back tracking of Obama on Gitmo, Pictures CIA $exin^ up the evidence of WMD in Iraq outing of Vallery are all under the carpet now.

So its all back to square one for India. :roll:

Is it that obama is a Bush jr +black??

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby rajsunder » 29 May 2009 21:20

Prem wrote:Dystopia or Myopia of islam.

A black lie
By Dr Ayaa .Hajoor . Khayal
The economists have stated that more than fifty percent of Pakistanis live below the poverty-line. The statement is a black lie. The fifty per cent are not at all living below the poverty-line. They are just gasping for breath below the line. There is a fundamental difference between 'living and 'gasping'.
The economists have betrayed their utter ignorance of the reality. By telling a lie, they have insulted the gaspers. The economists are lucky that the gaspers don't have the financial means for hiring a lawyer for claiming damages for the insult in a law-court.
The misery of the gaspers is not smuggled into Pakistan from abroad. It is a purely indigenous creation. It is created by a handful of extremely privileged Pakistanis for the Pakistani masses. Thus the extremely unprivileged Pakistanis are a creation of the extremely privileged Pakistanis.

According to a news, these persons are not allowed to seek refuge in Sindh. The implication is that Sindh is an independent country and not a part of Pakistan. The Displaced Persons being dangerous foreigners must be kept at a safe distance.
Here is a remedy for these persons. They should request Sindh: "Please Sindh, kindly allow us to pitch our tents temporarily at the bottom of the Arabian Sea. There we can't be any sort of nuisance
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... lack-lie/1

why is he only pointing towards sindh?? why forget about the fact that even punjab state has officially said that they would not allow any IDP's to come inside punjab.

BTW is the writer punjabi???

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby ramana » 29 May 2009 21:45

Walid Phares teaches at National Defence uty a DC pentagon institution. So he is reflecting the US POV. BTW he is an Arab origin scholar. The most interesting thing is he calls the Mumbai terrorist attack a Ghazawa, ie a Islamic raid with religious connotations, linking it to the raids of Muhammed in the early days of Islam. This even the most vehment Hindutva folks have not asserted in India.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby harbans » 29 May 2009 22:27

The most interesting thing is he calls the Mumbai terrorist attack a Ghazawa, ie a Islamic raid with religious connotations, linking it to the raids of Muhammed in the early days of Islam.

I noticed that too.

And furhter:

Although a press release was issued by the so-called "Indian Mujahideen," many traces were left—almost on purpose—to show Pakistani involvement, or to be more precise, a link to forces operational within Pakistan, one of them being Lashkar-e-Toiba.


This is sort of claiming Indians carried it out. The message is subtle, but it's against India.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby NRao » 29 May 2009 22:37

So far this is going per my MS Project:

Linked Attacks in Northwest Pakistan Kill 13

The style of this week's strikes suggests that insurgents are becoming more sophisticated in launching coordinated attacks requiring pinpoint timing and that they are prepared to unleash their full arsenal to undermine a government they see as a tool of the United States.


Kerry Plan - shelved?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby John Snow » 29 May 2009 22:50

Walid Phares teaches at National Defence uty a DC pentagon institution


This should tell you how infested the DOD SD and other GOTUS institutions are filled with anti India and pro TSP think tankers and persons of eminent interest Aka PEI

PEI ---> Person of Eminent Interests in Paki Islam.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby negi » 29 May 2009 23:09

Land of the pure never seizes to amaze me :lol:

‘Jilted lover saved Pak nuke programme from sabotage’

ISLAMABAD: An “unsung jilted” lover saved Pakistan’s nuclear programme from a major “sabotage” three-decade back after a whirlwind romance with
a nuclear scientist
who was jailed by Benazir Bhutto and military ruler Pervez Musharraf, a top former ISI official has revealed.

The woman lecturer, who felt betrayed after a romance with a nuclear scientist of the Karachi Nuclear Power Plant (KANUPP), gave the lead to the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) in 1978, which in turn led to the dramatic arrest of 12 Pakistani scientists and engineers
, planning to sabotage the country’s nuclear sites, claims Brig (retd) Imtiaz Ahmed, the then head of the spy agency in Sindh.

“The expose led to the arrest of Pakistani scientists who were later given death and life imprisonment sentences by the special tribunal set up by the then president General Ziaul Haq,” The News daily reported on Thursday.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby Dilbu » 29 May 2009 23:09

India army chief calls for Pakistan nuclear cap
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - The world must put pressure on Pakistan to restrict its nuclear capabilities, India's army chief said on Friday, adding that reports of Pakistan stockpiling nuclear arsenal was a matter of serious concern.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby sunilUpa » 29 May 2009 23:29

No IED Mubaraks today? :cry: :((

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby munna » 29 May 2009 23:33


I can punch Great Khali but he will mince meat out of me :(( (not fair we can punch yindoos only).

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby Prem » 30 May 2009 00:04

sunilUpa wrote:No IED Mubaraks today? :cry: :((


Have pity on hoors, they do need a day off to prep up again .
In the meantime Pakibans and Talibans doing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui3menJ0qyA&NR=1 while Uncle enjoying ignorance bliss.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Postby Virupaksha » 30 May 2009 00:15

Samay wrote:Is it that obama is a Bush jr +black??

No, much more dangerous.

You can deal with a guy who knows he knows nothing, but dealing with a half knowledge guy who behaves as if he knows everything is much much difficult.


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