International Military Discussion

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 20 Apr 2009 03:15

Why the CIA’s caterpillar story is scary

Jamal K. Malik · Post by **Jamal K. Malik** » 21 Apr 2009 00:28

They are laying the terms which is not possible

Medvedev said Moscow's conditions include:

-- a ban on deploying nuclear arms in space

-- making it impossible to compensate for a cut in nuclear arms by building up of conventional forces

-- making sure nuclear weapons are destroyed and not just stockpiled.

Is it possible some day!!!!!!!!!!!

HOPE for some day for our children

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 22 Apr 2009 00:38

Does anyone remember the Nationale Volksarmee, or East Germany's Land Army?

I dont know if they could fight, but they could put up one hell of a parade!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBdBSZBu ... re=related

jmaxwell · Post by **jmaxwell** » 22 Apr 2009 12:47

Israel wants to buy U.S. missile defense system

Per the article, Israel is looking for a multi tier defense shield:
* Iron Dome (Israel) - laser-based anti rocket system in development
* Vulcan-Phalanx (US) - looks like the C-RAM role is being sought for purchase
* Magic Wand (US & Israel) - for medium range missiles
* Arrow (US & Israel) - for long range threats

Does anyone have information on gun based CIWS initiatives by DRDO? Wiki mentions "BC-350 Chanakya"

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 22 Apr 2009 14:45

Fantastic mini-misseles the size of a French loaf developed for UCAVs at China Lake.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-c ... 9907.story

Weapons get smaller, deadlier at China Lake

Ajay K · Post by **Ajay K** » 22 Apr 2009 16:16

Sri Lankan army is effectively using UAV in the ongoing war against LTTE.

UAV

Shankar · Post by **Shankar** » 22 Apr 2009 18:51

If srilanka can do this to LTTE why can we not do the same to those in POK -no real reason actually except a matter of simple guts

AmitR · Post by **AmitR** » 22 Apr 2009 22:07

Shankar wrote:If srilanka can do this to LTTE why can we not do the same to those in POK -no real reason actually except a matter of simple guts

And the blessings of the big brother.
Do u really think that the SLA has suddenly become a mighty force, when it failed for all these years.

Gaurav_S · Post by **Gaurav_S** » 25 Apr 2009 09:20

Rudd to announce huge military build-up

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is set to announce Australia's biggest military build-up since World War II.

The Weekend Australian says it will include a multi-billion-dollar investment in maritime defence, including 100 new F-35 fighters, a doubling of the submarine fleet, and powerful new surface warships.

It says the new defence white paper will outline plans for a fundamental shake-up of Australia's defence organisation to ensure that the nation can meet what the prime minister sees as a far more challenging and uncertain security outlook in Asia over the next two decades.

The white paper will consider the emerging non-traditional threats to Australia, including cyber security, climate change and its associated risk of large uncontrolled people movements.

Senior government sources say Mr Rudd has insisted that defence spending remain largely insulated from the government's budget difficulties, but the Defence Department will still have to find at least $15 billion of internal savings over the next decade to help pay for the $100 billion-plus long-term equipment plan.

Mr Rudd and Defence Minister Joel Fitzgibbon are expected to release the long-awaited white paper as early as next week, with the more detailed 10-year defence capability plan due to be published by mid-year.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/552 ... y-buildup/

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 25 Apr 2009 11:42

The next threat...from China's hackers.Chinese hackers have been found to have been responsible for shutting down US electrical grid in 2003

http://www.worldmag.com/articles/15311

The next security threat
National Security: Hackers who turn out the lights and terrorists who knock down the internet are just a few cyber-attack scenarios federal officials must contemplate |
Daniel James Devine

The largest blackout in U.S. history happened in the late summer of 2003, when 50 million residents of eight northeastern states and Canada found their electricity dead on an August afternoon. The outage cost $6 billion and was collectively blamed on overgrown trees, a common computer virus, and an odd cascading effect in the electric grid that shut down dozens of power plants from Ohio to New York.

Tim Bennett, a cybersecurity expert, last year told National Journal there was more to the story: U.S. intelligence officials had confided to him a hacker working for China's People's Liberation Army had tapped into an online power control network serving the Northeast. A spring 2008 blackout also had been traced to China, Bennett said. Then, this month, charges of a similar nature were leaked: An unidentified U.S. intelligence source told The Wall Street Journal that foreign spies had hacked into a U.S. power grid and left behind malicious software.

dorai · Post by **dorai** » 26 Apr 2009 23:11

SU-35BM prototype crashes according to several Internet forums.

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/i ... Btopicseen

vsudhir · Post by **vsudhir** » 28 Apr 2009 19:35

Liu · Post by **Liu** » 02 May 2009 18:21

vsudhir wrote:.................

well, did CHina really import so many weapons? I indeed am not sure about it!

after all, most of weapons of PLA are home-made.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 02 May 2009 21:48

Australia to buy US jets, build up navy, air force

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 05 May 2009 18:02

Back from the ban of the British Raj! This ancient Indian martial art.:Shashta Vidiya", is being revived in "Blighty" of alll places,long years after it was banned by the British.Three hearty cheers to those who are reviving it!!!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 79002.html

Ancient but deadly: the return of shastar vidiya

Banned by the Raj, the world's original martial art is being revived by British Asians. Jerome Taylor reports

SUKHA SINGH

Nidar Singh Nihang, front, hopes to revive the ancient martial art of shastar vidiya
In a fluorescent-lit sports gymnasium at a sprawling sixth-form college in Hounslow, west London, three turbaned Sikh warriors are frantically battling each other with razor-sharp swords. Draped in flowing blue robes and sporting chest-length beards, the three men cavort, twist and counter-attack each other in a blur of clashing blades and skilled confusion.....

narayana · Post by **narayana** » 05 May 2009 18:17

wonder why UAE, and Greece are Importing So Heavily There are not in such Hostile neighborhood or are under some kind of umbrella.

Greece has tensions with Turkey on Cyprus but not so serious,and UAE is under the umbrella of the so called Arabian Brotherhood ,what drives them to spend so much?

PratikDas · Post by **PratikDas** » 05 May 2009 19:17

narayana wrote: Greece has tensions with Turkey on Cyprus but not so serious,and UAE is under the umbrella of the so called Arabian Brotherhood ,what drives them to spend so much?

UAE and Iran are not exactly friends. They already have a territorial dispute over an island. At one point in time Iran could have swatted the UAE like one would a fly but that's probably not going to be as easy as it used to be.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 05 May 2009 22:48

the arabs don't trust each other at all, whatever they say to the outside world.

and with the big sheikhdoms it's also a big h&d issue to own more and better shiny toys than your neighbour.

Kersi D · Post by **Kersi D** » 06 May 2009 16:00

Rahul M wrote:the arabs don't trust each other at all, whatever they say to the outside world.

and with the big sheikhdoms it's also a big h&d issue to own more and better shiny toys than your neighbour.

Mine is bigger than yours.

Er... I mean aircraft, ship tanks etc......

Gaurav_S · Post by **Gaurav_S** » 06 May 2009 17:47

China a 'peaceful force' in Beijing's response to defence paper

CHINA has called for Australia and other countries to have a more objective approach to its rising military power, in its first official response to the Rudd Government's defence white paper.

Australia's Anzac-class frigate HMAS Parramatta on patrol in the North Persian Gulf. Picture: Defence "China is a peaceful force that forms no threat to any other countries," Foreign Ministry spokesman Ma Zhong Xu said in answer to questions from The Australian. "(We hope) neighbour countries will view China's military build-up objectively, without bias."

Australia's spy agencies noted the jump in Chinese submarine activity at the same time as military chiefs were penning the new defence white paper , released last week, which called for a doubling of the Royal Australian Navy's future submarine fleet.

But the navies of China and India are expanding at a much faster rate, and Australia is likely to struggle to maintain its relative strategic weight in the region.

China's naval chief, Admiral Wu Shengli, said last month his navy would "move faster in researching and building new-generation weapons to boost the ability to fight regional sea wars".

China is upgrading and expanding its fleet of 74 combat ships as well as acquiring new amphibious boats that can transport a battalion group of troops.

It is also upgrading its 60-boat submarine fleet, which includes at least two nuclear missile launching vessels, and is believed to be planning an aircraft carrier.

India is the other Asian power building up long-range strategic naval capabilities in the region.

New Delhi plans to increase the size of its navy by more than 20 per cent by 2017 with plans to include modern aircraft carriers to replace its single, 50-year-old carrier the INS Viraat.

However, Australia's nearest large neighbour, Indonesia, has not joined the rush to expand its naval reach.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 06 May 2009 18:13

China's Admiral Wu Shengli has said (AWST) that a supercruising aircraft is a top priority for the PLAN,possibly the future JXX fighter,sometimes mentioned,which might even be a development of the J-10.The revelations that China made twice as many secret sub patrols last year also indicates that the PLAN is at the forefront of China's military expansion and agressive stance.The USN revealed that another encounter with Chinese "fishing vessels" by one of its surveillance ships took place last week.China is pushing the boundaries of tension as much as it can seeing how far it can stretch the weaknesses of the US and its allies in ASia.

JaiS · Post by **JaiS** » 07 May 2009 05:29

Sean O Connor's blog: IMINT & Analysis - Taiwan's SAM Network

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 08 May 2009 11:15

The Pentagon's "Black Budget",is expected to be "$50 billion",according to Bill Sweetman of AWST! The Pentagon is asking for extra moolah and this figure is " “roughly equal in magnitude to the entire defense budgets of the UK, France or Japan” .Apart from this colossal figure,the budget for the NSA'a multifarious activities are not even mentioned.These clandestine op budgets just keep on growing each year.

Many of the secret budgets still remain clandestine, however. In the research budget, the line item for a “Special Program”of the super-secret National Security Agency is a string of zeros. Same goes for an NSA “Cyber Security Initiative” kitty. And don’t even ask about NSA’s “Intelligence Support to Information Operations” account. That’s a blank slate, too.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/05 ... 0-billion/

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 08 May 2009 16:47

Crew member in Russian nuclear submarine accident judged sane

"Psychiatric tests have shown that submariner [Dmitry] Grobov is criminally sane," a source close to the investigation told RIA Novosti on Friday.

The source added that the investigation into the incident had been extended until August due to the necessity of carrying out additional tests.

"It is necessary to establish how the fire suppression system could have started with the pushing of one button, taking into account that practically all life-support systems on a submarine have a backup system," the source said.

The accident occurred on November 8 last year while the submarine was undergoing sea trials in the Sea of Japan. Three submariners and 17 shipyard workers died in the accident. There were 208 people, 81 of them submariners, on board the vessel at the time.

Grobov is suspected of having entered the wrong temperature data for the submarine's living quarters, which caused the fire suppression system to release deadly Freon gas.

Samay · Post by **Samay** » 09 May 2009 01:23

Philip wrote:The Pentagon's "Black Budget",is expected to be "$50 billion",according to Bill Sweetman of AWST! The Pentagon is asking for extra moolah and this figure is " “roughly equal in magnitude to the entire defense budgets of the UK, France or Japan” .Apart from this colossal figure,the budget for the NSA'a multifarious activities are not even mentioned.These clandestine op budgets just keep on growing each year.

Many of the secret budgets still remain clandestine, however. In the research budget, the line item for a “Special Program”of the super-secret National Security Agency is a string of zeros. Same goes for an NSA “Cyber Security Initiative” kitty. And don’t even ask about NSA’s “Intelligence Support to Information Operations” account. That’s a blank slate, too.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/05 ... 0-billion/

where is that money spend??

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 09 May 2009 01:49

^^ On various classified projects also known as "Black Projects". Previous black projects include SR-17, F-117 Nighthawk, B-2 Spirit among many others.

Gaurav_S · Post by **Gaurav_S** » 09 May 2009 07:42

China, India 'may stir up regional war': army report

AN internal army report has given a more threatening assessment of China's military expansion than was publicly stated in the defence white paper, warning bluntly that it could "destabilise" the region.

The report, obtained by The Weekend Australian, also makes more hawkish comments about India's military ambitions than Defence has admitted.

A draft copy of an army report, Army's Future Land Operating Concept, due to be finalised in September, warns about China and India's military ambitions.

"China and India's growing military ambitions, matched by growing military spending, have the potential to destabilise the region with their military expansion," the report states.

The defence white paper released last Saturday warned only that China's military modernisation might "give its neighbours cause for concern if not carefully explained".

The different wording in the documents suggests the white paper was toned down for public release to avoid causing offence in Beijing and New Delhi.

The army document is more pessimistic than the white paper about future regional stability, warning of a "real potential" for war between major powers.

"China, and potentially India ... have the potential to challenge US (strategic) dominance within their regions," the report states. "Of particular concern is an increased likelihood for dispute escalation as a result of changes to the perceived balance of power with the real potential for a return to major combat operations involving states."

Finally here is the link that was missing from last week's released defence report.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 09 May 2009 21:38

Did the Aussies have to spell it out what was known to the rest?

Chinese assertion is already evident. So is Indian, specially WRT A'stan. It is bound to happen. The dynamics will change, question is how fast. (BTW, the head of Toyota yesterday, in a speech, stated that he feels that both China and India are already coming out of this world wide recession. Such things will impact decision making for sure, they have to.)

The Land of Oz is just looking for excuses to justify their own spending. They have been doing that for years. This report SEEMS to have graduated from blaming the Sukhoi (China and Indian) to "defence spending" - a catchall phrase. The Su-XX justified the F-18 or F-35, now "defence spending" will justify F-18 + F-35 + subs, more this and more that.

This ALSO has the US trappings. I am fairly confident that there are Americans that are also pushing this wave. But, that should not surprise anyone. It is just a game to be played.

BTW, Indian "assertion" is not just India doing something +ve, it will be accentuated by the fall (or -ve growth) of Pakistan.

narayana · Post by **narayana** » 15 May 2009 13:02

United States, India Working Closely on Pakistani Nuclear Security: Stratfor

"The United States works very closely with India on the issue of Pakistan's nuclear security," it said.

God Forbid; if the next govt is a commie led one,then we will be loosing all Advantage in Renewed Indo-US Ties,its no surprise that US embassy staff making beeline to woo all parties against a Commie Led Govt.

kobe · Post by **kobe** » 15 May 2009 13:26

serious comedy

vishal · Post by **vishal** » 17 May 2009 14:30

Lankan army claims Prabhakaran dead

New Delhi: Liberation Tiger of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) chief V Prabhakaran could be dead with Sri Lankan army sources telling CNN-IBN that his body has been recovered and is being taken to an army camp in Colombo.

Sri Lankan army sources say they have recovered 150 bodies of LTTE cadres but the bodies are still being identified.

According to reports all civilians held hostage by the LTTE have now been freed from the battle zone.

The report comes even as the Lankan government announced it had captured the final stronghold of the LTTE, and that the top LTTE leadership may have committed mass suicide.

"I am proud to announce... that my government with the total commitment of our armed forces, has in an unprecedented humanitarian operation, finally defeated the LTTE militarily," said Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa.

The Lankan army claims to have intercepted LTTE messages of mass suicide of rebel leaders.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 25 May 2009 06:47

Stolen RAF vice files spark blackmail fear

Vetting data included drug abuse and use of prostitutes by senior officers

SKrishna · Post by **SKrishna** » 25 May 2009 12:24

"North Korea Claims to Conduct 2nd Nuclear Test"

Text of the North Korean Announcement of Nuclear Test

A Q Khan's seeds bloom again!!

vsudhir · Post by **vsudhir** » 26 May 2009 12:30

Japan's big guns prepare to rejoin global arms industry

The huge engineering and technological might of Japan may be poised for a new lease of life as the country prepares to ditch a self-imposed ban on arms exports that was introduced in the mid-1970s.

The controversial decision, which is likely to encounter bitter opposition from the country's mainly pacifist middle classes, could deliver significant economic benefits to Japan and lead to a realignment in the global defence industry.

A ruling party MP said that the greatest significance would be the conversion of Japan's robotics industry from civilian to military use as the world's defence spending is directed to remote-control hardware, such as drone aircraft.

Lifting or toning-down the 33-year old embargo would unleash some of the world's most advanced heavy engineering companies into the international weapons market, one of the few areas of manufacturing where Japan's immense technical resources have, for purely political reasons, not produced a dominant global player.

The expected move, which government insiders said may be announced by Taro Aso, the Prime Minister, before the summer, is likely to begin by relaxing the ban to allow Japanese companies to work on joint projects with American and European defence manufacturers, whose products could then be sold internationally.

Joint production and the scope to profit from a share of international sales could draw more Japanese companies into the defence industry and, the Government hopes, bring procurement costs down. Yet as the ban loosens further, government defence insiders say that Japan could be propelled into the top ranks of arms manufacturers.

Mr Aso's Government, meanwhile, is struggling to reverse an unprecedented shrinkage of the economy while the strong yen has made Japanese goods even less price-competitive against South Korean and Chinese products. Defence analysts have long maintained that Japanese industry, once freed from its ban, could quickly rival British, American and European players. Japan's prowess in miniaturised motors, robotics and control systems would be especially competitive.

andy B · Post by **andy B** » 26 May 2009 12:58

^^^ These guys will be giving TFTA Amrikhan and Yuropeans the run for their money if this goes through...good move IMHO...will sit in nicely with balancing the Chinese presence as well...

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 27 May 2009 17:42

Good to see Japan in the frey. India watching from sidelines - still.

And, France: First French Military Base Opens in the Persian Gulf

PARIS, May 26 -- France inaugurated its first military base in the Persian Gulf on Tuesday, underlining an ambition to help meet the strategic challenge from Iran and capture a share of the region's rich arms market for the French defense industry.

President Nicolas Sarkozy, on a one-day visit to the United Arab Emirates' capital, formally opened a 900-foot quay allocated to the French navy in Abu Dhabi's Zayed Port, a French air force installation at the Dhafra Air Base just outside the city and a barracks at a downtown military camp for several hundred French soldiers.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 29 May 2009 19:39

Pentagon Plans New Arm to Wage Wars in Cyberspace

Mark Schwartzbard · Post by **Mark Schwartzbard** » 29 May 2009 23:04

One nice beauty

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7854413.stm

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John Snow · Post by **John Snow** » 29 May 2009 23:17

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Austin · Post by **Austin** » 30 May 2009 16:15

Air Power Australia Updates

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