Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Gagan » 29 Oct 2009 09:06

Did anyone see this Benazir assassination clip?


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby milindc » 29 Oct 2009 09:16

amdavadi wrote:i bet "rahul" will turn out to be SRK, there was a reason he was being search by homeland security authority at nj.

He should of made the movie call "my name is rahul"


It fits with the overall time-line. SRK's shows were hosted by Chicago based clowns and he was interrogated on 15-16 August.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Prasad » 29 Oct 2009 09:27

Gagan wrote:Did anyone see this Benazir assassination clip?



That was bloody close! :eek:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby sum » 29 Oct 2009 09:28

ISLAMABAD – FOUR American citizens were caught red-handed by Capital Police in the early hours of Tuesday for photographing sensitive buildings. All four were dressed in traditional Afghan outfits and were found to be in possession of illegal weapons and explosives

According to details, police personnel deployed here at Nawaz Chowk, sector F-8, intercepted two suspicious vehicles in the early hours of Tuesday. During the search, police recovered weapons from their custody. The riders of these vehicles were found to be American citizens. They were all dressed as Afghans.

Must be local CIA afsars from the nearby American fortress, a.k.a, embassy..

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Singha » 29 Oct 2009 09:39

I wonder if the sensitive buildings by any chance were the dens of the local lashkars and militias...just keeping an eye on the 'boys' I guess.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Gagan » 29 Oct 2009 09:45

Apart from the embassy, the US has a huge compound in slum-bad that has high walls, barbed wire fences and CCTV cameras. This is a huge ops center with residential housing inside. I guess Xe / Blackwater forces reside here as does the various intel hardware NSA stuff.

The pak televison anchors and strategic experts were fretting over this compound on TV recently.

The other aspect regarding troops in Af-pak is that looks like the US is reluctant in sending more regular troops, but is quite ready to send in contract security agencies to do the job. This is a good strategy for the west - the contract soldiers are mostly americans and ex soldiers, but the force would read like the menu from a Rainbow Six computer game, where you get to select the brazilian sniper and the brit demoliton expert etc etc. :mrgreen:

Poor pakistanis, don't know what they stepped on.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Umrao Das » 29 Oct 2009 09:46

Boss PK army--> ISI----> Dawood<-}--->Bollywood <-----> Pawar & Sons Inc
l--------> l ----Taliban ----l
------- l----> Alqaeda


Guys where is the cartoon uncle money to paki gen to taliban to Alqeda then right under uncle butt

That cartoon is apt now as KL bill is giving 7.5 billion to TSP Please some one post that again

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Hiten » 29 Oct 2009 09:58

Gagan wrote:Another thing that I notice is that every american visitor has a double hanging around him at all times. Notice hillary's double in the first picture.

looks more like Anne Patterson with her hair combed

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Gagan » 29 Oct 2009 10:03

The Peshawar bomb's death toll is now 105.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby sanjaykumar » 29 Oct 2009 10:18

Pakistan is only reaping what it wished upon India, read today's Dawn words like pluralism are being used. Most will laugh, but does anyone deserve what happened in Pishor?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby kmkraoind » 29 Oct 2009 10:21

U.S. Quietly Speeds Aid for Pakistani Drives on Taliban

During preparations this spring for the Pakistani campaigns in Swat and South Waziristan, President Obama personally intervened at the request of Pakistan’s top army general to speed the delivery of 10 Mi-17 troop transport helicopters. Senior Pentagon officials have also hurried spare parts for Cobra helicopter gunships, night vision goggles, body armor and eavesdropping equipment to the fight.

American military surveillance drones are feeding video images and target information to Pakistani ground commanders, and the Pentagon has quietly provided the Pakistani Air Force with high-resolution, infrared sensors for F-16 warplanes, which Pakistan is using to guide bomb attacks on militants’ strongholds in South Waziristan.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Anindya » 29 Oct 2009 10:34

During preparations this spring for the Pakistani campaigns in Swat and South Waziristan, President Obama personally intervened at the request of Pakistan’s top army general to speed the delivery of 10 Mi-17 troop transport helicopters. Senior Pentagon officials have also hurried spare parts for Cobra helicopter gunships, night vision goggles, body armor and eavesdropping equipment to the fight.

American military surveillance drones are feeding video images and target information to Pakistani ground commanders, and the Pentagon has quietly provided the Pakistani Air Force with high-resolution, infrared sensors for F-16 warplanes, which Pakistan is using to guide bomb attacks on militants’ strongholds in South Waziristan.


The dhamaka in Peshawar is quite possibly yet another attempt by the TSPA to prove how desperate the situation is in Pakistan - and how desperately they need the US to have India sign over Kashmir; have the US fund large-ticket defence items for the TSPA etc....
(see http://www.stratfor.com/sitrep/20091028_us_pakistan_gilani_calls_fta_mediation_military_hardware)

Seems infeasible - but, this is also the same army that thought nothing of setting up rape camps for its own female citizens and killing 3 million of its own citizens - and all because, they did not like how some "Pakistanis" voted in an election.

This army and the people associated with it, will not have any compunctions in making Pakistan look like a threatened state to improve its bargaining position with the US - as always "negotiating with a gun to its own head". So, what if a few Pakistanis have to pay the price - they have made millions of Pakistanis pay the price in the past, for far for smaller reasons.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Hari Seldon » 29 Oct 2009 10:36

Wouldn't it be nice if the talibs could get their hands on some of 'em modified harpoons now, eh?


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby arun » 29 Oct 2009 11:34

Interesting that that the Taliban and Al Qaeda, neither of whom have been exactly reticent about owning up to responsibility for terrorist acts, have denied involvement in the latest demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan at Peshawar.

With the un-uniformed Jihadi’s ruling themselves out, we are left with the uniformed Jihadi’s of the Pakistan Army likely indulging in the “Jihad fi sabilillah” or “Jihad in the way of allah” part of their of their motto to :

1.Cement the notion of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s victimhood regards terrorism and given that the US Sec of State Hillary Clinton is currently visiting Pakistan wheedle more money from the US or;

2. Send a message from the Punjabi dominated Pakistan Army to the Pashtun / Pushtun / Pathan to fall in line or else risk the genocide that was unleashed by the Pakistan Army on the Bengalis of Bangladesh in 1970-71.

Article from Pakistan's Jung reporting both the Taliban and Al Qaeda have denied reponsibility for the latest demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan at Peshawar:

Taliban, al-Qaeda disown blast

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby dipak » 29 Oct 2009 11:52

Johann wrote:
dipak wrote:Uzbeks too are fighting for Taliban

Allegedly and reportedly, if few Indian(s) caught in TSP suspected of creating trouble - without delay its declared by TSP as India's hand in TSP, India fomenting trouble, India funding Taliban blah-blah ...

By the same token, if 200 Uzbeks are known to be fighting along with Taliban against TSPA, why its not declared that Uzbekistan's hand in TSP problems, Uzbekistan fomenting trouble, Uzbekistan funding Taliban ..blah-blah .. ??


...because the Uzbek jihadis (like the Uyghur jihadis) fled the ex-communist security police and are only in Pakistan because Pakistan welcomed them to Af-Pak the 1990s. Of course that was before Pakistan was forced by the Americans to fight them.

There's no question there are a lot of Uzbeks in the ranks - Arab jihadi forum publish biographies of Arab and Arab-friendly jihadis who died fighting in Af-Pak since 2001. One of the sets of biographies published last year was called 'Martyrdom in a Time of Exile' had 10 Uzbeks out of 120 assorted martyrs, and almost as many Uyghurs.

The Uyghurs dont get as much press because that's embarrassing for the Pakistanis, and makes trouble with their velly velly good fliends, while the Uzbeks linked up with the Mehsuds, the most anti-PA of the Pakiban.

Good backdrop provided, Johann.

India can always use this Uzbeks & Uyghurs angles to use as counter-rhetoric, if and when required in future.
Wish more coverage could be traced and highlighted about Uyghurs.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Singha » 29 Oct 2009 11:56

Radical Islamic leader killed by FBI in US
Updated on Thursday, October 29, 2009, 11:24 IST

Chicago: The leader of a radical Islamic group who allegedly preached violence against the government to his mostly African American followers was shot and killed in an FBI raid near Detroit.

The FBI said it employed "special safeguards" to secure the safe arrest of 11 men accused of operating an organized crime ring in the Detroit area who were known to have "espoused the use of violence against law enforcement."

But Luqman Abdullah, 53, refused to surrender Wednesday and began firing when he was confronted in a warehouse in Dearborn, Michigan, the FBI said in a statement.

Abdullah was killed during the exchange of gunfire but nobody else was hurt, an FBI spokeswoman said.

An FBI criminal complaint described Abudullah as a "highly placed leader of a nationwide radical fundamentalist Sunni group consisting primarily of African Americans, some of whom converted to Islam while they were servicing sentences in various prisons."

The FBI monitored Abdullah for years with the help of informants who brought back taped conversations and stories of how he used the mosque to train his followers for a violent jihad.

Abdullah often boasted of killing police officers and of his plans to "take out the US government," the FBI said in a 45-page charge sheet.

He also spoke of his willingness to die for his cause and yelled in one sermon "do not carry a pistol if you're going to give it up to police. You give them a bullet," it said.

Even the children were trained in martial arts, the informants said, and evidence of a shooting range was found in the basement when the congregation was evicted by the city of Detroit for non-payment of property taxes in January.

Their primary mission was to establish a separate, sovereign Islamic state within the borders of the United States that would be ruled by their spiritual leader, former Black Panther Jamil Abdullah al-Amin, who is currently in jail for shooting two police officers.
:eek: :twisted:

But the charge sheet alleges Abdullah used jihad to justify stealing cars, televisions, guns, fur coats and burning down buildings for the insurance money.
:rotfl:

Three of the 11 men accused of participating in the crime ring remain at large. They face a variety of charges including fraud, conspiracy, selling stolen goods, and illegal possession of firearms.

"Members and former members of the Masjid al-Haqq have stated they are willing to do anything Abdullah instructs and/or preaches, even including criminal conduct and acts of violence," the criminal complaint alleges.

It portrayed a paranoid and angry man with a short fuse who hated police, spoke of vast government conspiracies and was determined to fight for a "violent revolution" and kill anyone who betrayed his trust.

"We're not fake terrorists, we're the real terrorists," he allegedly told one informant after getting pulled over by the police in January.

"If they are coming to get me I'll just strap a bomb on and blow up everybody," he allegedly told followers on another occasion.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby A_Gupta » 29 Oct 2009 13:26

Umrao Das wrote:Boss PK army--> ISI----> Dawood<-}--->Bollywood <-----> Pawar & Sons Inc
l--------> l ----Taliban ----l
------- l----> Alqaeda


Guys where is the cartoon uncle money to paki gen to taliban to Alqeda then right under uncle butt

That cartoon is apt now as KL bill is giving 7.5 billion to TSP Please some one post that again


You can find it here:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3611/363 ... e5c4_o.jpg

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Suppiah » 29 Oct 2009 14:12

Clicking on that cartoon led me to the gupshup forum page...I went through a few posts and they seem quite enlightened by Paki standards...does anyone know about this forum and its 'reputation'?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 29 Oct 2009 15:04

Ms. Clinton & Pak students in lively exchange
“If you want to see your territory shrink, that’s your choice,” she said, adding that she believed it would be a bad choice.

Ms. Clinton likened Pakistan’s situation - with Taliban forces taking over substantial swaths of land in the Swat valley and in areas along the Afghan border - to a theoretical advance of terrorists into the United States from across the Canadian border. It would be unthinkable, she said, for the U.S. government to decide, “Let them have Washington (state)” first, then Montana, then the sparsely populated Dakotas, because those states are far from the major centres of population and power on the East Coast.

Ms. Clinton was responding to a student who suggested that Washington was forcing Pakistan to use military force on its own territory. It was one of several questions from the students that raised doubts about the relationship between the United States and Pakistan.


And, some more . . .
‘If there were peace between Pakistan and India, and the outstanding issues were resolved, Pakistan would take off like a rocket in terms of economic development :lol: ,’ Clinton told the hand-picked audience from around the country.

‘Pakistan has such an opportunity to be a power house. You are so strategically located,’ she said — referring to the possibility of trade opening up to the north, east and west and with the Arabian Sea.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby A_Gupta » 29 Oct 2009 15:25

Dawn
The Peshawar blast death toll is up to 104, with 70 women and children dead.
A senior intelligence official blamed terrorists based in Darra Adamkhel for the attack. ‘We intercepted a call last week in which militants were talking about a ‘heart-rending’ attack in Peshawar,’ he said.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Kati » 29 Oct 2009 16:03

Terror suspect duped by friend, lawyer says
INTERNATIONAL PLOT | Argues client is really 'ridiculing' pal in taped chat
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October 29, 2009

BY NATASHA KORECKI Federal Courts Reporter nkorecki@suntimes.com
A North Side businessman accused of aiding a friend's scheme to assassinate a Danish cartoonist isn't an accomplice in an international terror plot -- he's a dupe, his lawyer said Wednesday.

Patrick Blegen, lawyer for Tahawwur Rana, said the government doesn't have evidence that the Chicago businessman knew a friend was plotting to blow up a newspaper office in Denmark or kill the cartoonist who sketched a controversial image of the prophet Mohammed.

Rana, 48, of West Rogers Park, was charged Tuesday with conspiring to provide material support to David Headley, who is accused of planning an attack in Copenhagen before FBI agents arrested him.

Blegen said facts in the case show "Mr. Rana being duped by Mr. Headley. I think the evidence will show Mr. Rana was not aware of Mr. Headley's activities."

As proof of a conspiracy, the government pointed to a recorded conversation between the two men discussing potential targets, but Blegen said Rana is actually "ridiculing'' Headley, 49, of Chicago.

Authorities charge that Rana helped arrange travel for Headley and helped hide Headley's true reason for the travel: to case the newspaper offices for an attack.

Headley confessed to agents when he was arrested, charges say. But Blegen said when Rana was arrested, he denied knowing anything about a terror plot.

Federal authorities say Rana helped plot Headley's movements and arranged for his overseas flights. Headley twice visited Denmark this year, including a visit to the newspaper office he allegedly targeted.

Rana remains in a federal lockup after a federal judge said Tuesday she needed more time to decide whether to release him on bond.

Rana, a native of Pakistan and a Canadian citizen, was arrested Oct. 18 at his West Rogers Park home. On Wednesday, prosecutors added a second charge of providing material support. The extra charge comes with the possibility of an additional 15 years in prison.

Prosecutors told U.S. Magistrate Judge Nan Nolan that Rana is a danger to the community and a flight risk because he is "facing the rest of his life in prison," Assistant U.S. Attorney Dan Collins said.

Blegen said two of Rana's brothers, who live in New Jersey, would post their properties as security, as would Rana and others, for a total of $500,000.


i.e. more scumbugs around ....

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby arun » 29 Oct 2009 19:39

X Posted.

Ashley Tellis in a October 2009 Policy Brief put out by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peacee titled “ The United States and India 3.0: Cave! Hic Dragones “, makes the observation that within the ranks of the uniformed Jihadi’s of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan there is a visceral hatred for India :

the Pakistani military’s antipathy toward India goes beyond any particular issue. Instead, it is produced by a malignant mélange of the army’s own hold on power in Pakistan, its vast economic and financial interests within the country, its role in upholding the raison d’être of an otherwise infirm state, and its desire to avenge its defeat and the vivisection of its homeland in 1971—along with all the specific disputes that could in principle be resolved.


Read it all:

The United States and India 3.0: Cave! Hic Dragones

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Rahul Shukla » 29 Oct 2009 19:44

India Withdraws Some Kashmir Troops In Peace Gesture (NY Times)

JAMMU, India (Reuters) - India is withdrawing about 15,000 soldiers from Jammu and Kashmir, a military official said Thursday, in a move aimed at boosting prospects of peace talks with the disputed region's separatist groups.
But military analysts said the slight thinning of troops in the Jammu region was linked with ongoing efforts to resume talks with Kashmir's separatist All Parties Hurriyat Conference rather than extending an olive branch to Pakistan.
The troops who are being moved out are in the Jammu region and not the Kashmir Valley which is the centre of the revolt.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

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http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/s ... 813987.jpg

Chinese students enter a vehicle at the Islamic University in Islamabad, as they head back to China after quitting their studies in Pakistan on Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009. (AP Photo/Alexandre Meneghini) #

Tarrel than mountain friends.....indeed! :twisted:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Rahul Shukla » 29 Oct 2009 19:57

Hillary to Pakistan: Get Real (MSNBC)

Asked why other countries can't be involved in fighting terrorism -- not just Pakistan -- Clinton said: "Al-Qaeda has had safe haven in Pakistan since 2002. I find it hard to believe that nobody in your government knows where they are and couldn't get them if they really wanted to...
"As far as we know, they are in Pakistan...

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Rahul Shukla » 29 Oct 2009 20:07

Radio Pakistan's latest worry is adulteration of food in [Indian] Punjab (Sify)

Radio Pakistan in its latest broadcast has expressed concern on adulteration of food in [Indian] Punjab. The allegation is that all traders are Hindus and they are doing so to hurt the Sikh community.
People living in border villages of Punjab are aware that adulteration does happen, but it is not directed against any particular community.
People of all religious faiths and ethnicities can be noticed in markets of Punjab. It sounds ridiculous even to imagine that somebody would like to supply adulterated food or items to those who ensure his or her livelihood.

The world knows Pakistan is today the epicentre of terrorism, courtesy its long pursued policy of providing 'moral' support to xtremists. Instead of getting worried about adulteration in India, it should look inwards. Meanwhile, thanks to Radio akistan we will eliminate 'adulterated goods' in local markets of Punjab , says Gulab Singh from Abohar.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby enqyoob » 29 Oct 2009 20:26

Did anyone see this Benazir assassination clip?


1. The reason for the jerky video must be that it was taken using a handheld zoom lens from a substantial distance.

2. The head disappears before the blast occurs. So much for the sunroof lever. Had to be gunshots.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Rahul Shukla » 29 Oct 2009 20:30

Taliban in Pakistan blame U.S. Blackwater for deadly blast (Xinhua)

ISLAMABAD Oct. 29 (Xinhua) -- Chief of Taliban movement in Pakistan Hakimullah Mehsud has blamed the controversial American private firm Blackwater for the bomb blast in Peshawar which killed 108 people, local news agency NNI reported Thursday.
Hakimullah Mehsud told media that if Taliban can carry out attacks in Islamabad and target Pakistan army's headquarters, then why they should target general public.
Azam Tariq, the Taliban spokesman, who was accompanying Hakimullah, warned that those media organizations could be targeted which are defaming Taliban.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby ramana » 29 Oct 2009 20:32

Singhaji, Why was the item about a FBI raid on Black Panthers posted in this TSP thread? Please post in correct thread and observe self restraint.

Thanks, ramana

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Rahul Shukla » 29 Oct 2009 20:33

India Set to Ease Tensions With Pakistan on Kashmir, Singh Says (Bloomberg)

“We are looking at negotiations, which are essentials for which we are prepared,” Singh told reporters in Srinagar, the main Kashmiri city. “But there will not be much headway unless and until Pakistan brings under effective control these terrorist groups,” he said.
“I hope that the government of Pakistan will take the ongoing actions against terrorist groups to their logical conclusions,” Singh said yesterday.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby enqyoob » 29 Oct 2009 20:40

Must be a typo:

But the charge sheet alleges Abdullah used jihad to justify stealing cars, televisions, guns, fur coats and burning down buildings for the insurance money. :rotfl:


Shouldn't that be
But the charge sheet alleges Abdullah used jihad to justify stealing cars, televisions, guns, for goats and burning down buildings for the insurance money. :rotfl:
:?: :?: :?:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Amber G. » 29 Oct 2009 20:43

Offering Fateha

Which is evoking a Fatawa:
[We don't think] she knew she was doing anything wrong. If anything, its the Muslim men around her who should be held accountable. Intention matters in our Religion. .... But still she must die a painful death...

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Nandu » 29 Oct 2009 21:01

Ah, Amber, that means the pic you posted in the previous page is not a Clinton body double, but Anne Peterson, US amby to TSP.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby ramana » 29 Oct 2009 21:20

More on the Chicago case...

X-Post from nukkad :eek:

Singha wrote:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/fbi-raid-in-us-heartland-may-have-canadian-connection/article1337761/

FBI raid in U.S. heartland may have Canadian connection

Mystery surrounds dragnet that saw of scores of armed federal agents overrun

Colin Freeze

Kinsman, Ill. — From Monday's Globe and Mail Published on Sunday, Oct. 25, 2009 10:54PM EDT Last updated on Tuesday, Oct. 27, 2009 3:04AM EDT

Most days, not much happens in this sleepy farming community, population: 100. Yet for a few short, dramatic hours last week, Kinsman doubled in size as scores of armed and armoured federal agents swept in.

U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation agents – some carrying assault rifles – raided an Islamic slaughterhouse, which opened in the village four years ago. There, the FBI questioned a handful of immigrants, and has kept a conspicuous silence ever since.

The locals say the butchery, located on the outskirts of Chicago, was owned and managed by Pakistanis hailing from Canada – including its owner, who is now in jail under mysterious circumstances.

Faced with this paucity of information, the villagers complain that they are now left to fear a different kind of slaughter may have been in the works. “Our biggest concern is, ‘Is everybody safe?' ” said Mark Harlow, a corn farmer who doubles as the village mayor. “Don't you think the FBI would tell the community a little something, to relieve the pressure a little bit?”

The FBI has not said why dozens of its agents arrived in more than 40 dark cars and vans on Oct. 18, or why the raid involved a helicopter, surveillance plane and a mobile “command centre” trailer on the ground, complete with a satellite uplink. For a day, this scrutiny was brought to bear on the ramshackle slaughterhouse, from which the agents pulled records and computer files after getting a search warrant.

Strangely, save for FoxNews.com and the local press, this dragnet made barely a ripple in the news. Either it had to have been a pressing national-security investigation, or a raging paranoia that had gotten completely out of hand.

Tahawar Hussein Rana, a 48-year-old Chicago entrepreneur whom some locals describe as a Canadian, is the only person in custody. A federal U.S. database places him as a current inmate of a Chicago prison, yet there are no publicly filed charges against him. Nor, for that matter is there even mention of a “sealed” indictment.

Neither U.S. authorities nor Mr. Rana's own lawyer – who specializes in defending clients against white-collar-crime allegations – will say why he was arrested in the course of this investigation. (Some U.S. media seem to have confused this Mr. Rana with a younger Canadian of the same name, who told The Globe he runs a legitimate import-export business that has nothing to do with the Illinois slaughterhouse.)

It's possible that the FBI agents didn't know what, precisely, they were looking for as they raided the slaughterhouse.

“Did you see anything out of the ordinary?” the agents repeatedly asked villagers. One line of questioning was whether anyone in the slaughterhouse took an interest in acquiring large amounts of fertilizer. :twisted: Other questions centred on whether anyone was unduly interested in the local nuclear power plant – “five miles down the road, as the crow flies,” Mr. Harlow, the mayor, said. :roll:

None of this could have been predicted four years ago, when Mr. Rana is said to have first arrived in the village in a blue Mercedes.

At the time, he was running an immigration consultancy in Chicago, which advertises its abilities to help migrants enter Canada or the United States. Those offices are said to have been raided recently, too, pursuant to the FBI warrant. (A woman who answered the phone at those offices yesterday declined comment.)

But in Kinsman, Ill., his business was to take over Rodowski's Meat Locker, a family business that ran successfully for 50 years before changing hands.

The Muslim entrepreneur was an odd fit for Kinsman, which is more than 95-per-cent white, according to the latest U.S. census data.

Mr. Rana was hardly a fixture there. According to villagers, including one who worked at the plant, other Muslims, also from Pakistan and Canada, were brought in to run the day-to-day business. Mexicans did the grunt work. Some villagers claim some of these workers were led away in handcuffs during the raid, though no else apart from Mr. Rana is known to remain in custody.

The locals say that when the Muslims took over the slaughterhouse, pigs quickly fell out of favour, and goats arrived in herds. The slaughterhouse was given a religious exemption from the federal government to kill livestock without stunning them first. Some Muslims came down from the city during Islamic holidays, the locals say, so they could slit the jugulars themselves in accordance with their customs.

Yesterday, the slaughterhouse appeared deserted, though dozens of sheep, a half a dozen cows and a horse lingered. No meat was in the abandoned freezers, though some animal remains were strewn on the property. One slaughterhouse employee, who lives in town and asked not to be named, said the manager – whom the FBI questioned but had no issues with – told her yesterday he was leaving town.

“I'm going to Canada,” he told her, explaining that was where his family lived.

Unaccustomed to Islam – the town's only church is Catholic – the locals say they found the Halal slaughterhouse strange. But for years, their biggest concern was that the occasional stray goat might eat up their gardens and flowerbeds.


Mr. Harlow said such indiscretions led him to complain to the plant's manager, whom he knew only as “Orangebeard” for his hennaed facial hair. However, he added, such conversations were always cordial. “He seemed to be a nice guy.”
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Looks like a real adda for Paki types. And looks like a lot of immigration issues in the meat house.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Vinod Ji » 29 Oct 2009 21:20

Amber G. wrote:Offering Fateha
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Did some body pay attention to HDC's hands? it is typical hindu namaskar :D :-) yyy slap!! That is what will come out in the jihadi journalism.. :mrgreen:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby archan » 29 Oct 2009 22:02

Amber G. wrote:Offering Fateha

Which is evoking a Fatawa:
[We don't think] she knew she was doing anything wrong. If anything, its the Muslim men around her who should be held accountable. Intention matters in our Religion. .... But still she must die a painful death...

Link to the Fatwa?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby SwamyG » 29 Oct 2009 22:24

SSridhar wrote:Ms. Clinton & Pak students in lively exchange
“If you want to see your territory shrink, that’s your choice,” she said, adding that she believed it would be a bad choice.


Is that the end game Unkil is shooting for - i.e smaller Pakistan(s)?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Postby Amber G. » 29 Oct 2009 22:34

^^^ Photos and captions are from Associated Press of Pakistan Corporation (http://www.app.com.pk/photo/ -- quotes are comments delivered by Pakistani readers (forgot where. Don't know if it is the presence of women or hands not in right place ...)
Meanwhile looks like HRC likes to pray in namaskar style here too .. ...to the writer of "saare jahan se accha .. hindustan hamara"'s memorial in Lahore.

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Here is a scene from Govt. college of Lahore ... Notice all the students .. :rotfl:
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and the welcome sign with colorful flags says it all ...
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