Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 11 Dec 2009 21:10

Now that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has finally admitted the existence of the Quetta Shura" I thought it appropriate to post a past instance of lies dished up by the Islamic Republic on the subject.

Interior Minister of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan quoted on the matter of the Quetta Shura in a article datelined September 29th, 2009 in the Daily Times:

Tuesday, September 29, 2009

Quetta shura does not exist: Rehman Malik ………………

LONDON: Rejecting US complaints that the Afghan Taliban led by Mullah Omar were operating from Quetta, Interior Minister Rehman Malik has said there is no “Quetta shura” in Pakistan.

“Over and again this topic has been coming up. But according to us the Quetta shura does not exist in Quetta,” he said. “What we are requesting the US and the UK and all other stakeholders is to please give us real-time information. If you know that they are present you must be knowing their names, details ... if there is any sign of Quetta shura, we will smash it,” he added.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Singha » 11 Dec 2009 21:13

makes some sense for valued councils to sit in karachi, which is thickly populated and off limits for the national bird. that way all the cities in Indus valley are outside the birds' home range.

but can cause a problem if CIA bribes the local police and media to expose such activities and force the GoP to arrest any.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 11 Dec 2009 22:16

This is just grandstanding for the media. In private pakistan GUBOs like a nymphomanic whore that the country is.

They are quite willing to sell out the whole quetta shura, lock stock and barrel, the price has to be right. Mullah Omar might just do a permanent disappearing act if Ombaba can pay pakistan's price.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Amber G. » 11 Dec 2009 22:20

Rahul M wrote:
]how does a Colonel get to be a former Air Force pilot in the Pakistani system?
may be it is a typo, he is probably from Army Aviation Corps :-?

exactly, that foxed me too.

Could it be: that Colonel Shahid Bashir and Nadeem Ahmad Shah (a former Air Force pilot and now an advocate ) ... (as the report suggests) are just two separate people ?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 11 Dec 2009 22:22

Gagan wrote:This is just grandstanding for the media. In private pakistan GUBOs like a nymphomanic whore that the country is.

They are quite willing to sell out the whole quetta shura, lock stock and barrel, the price has to be right. Mullah Omar might just do a permanent disappearing act if Ombaba can pay pakistan's price.


Gagan, my worry is that the 'right price' may be 'India'.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby anupmisra » 11 Dec 2009 22:23

Hiten wrote:He said security forces had captured four trucks carrying Indian-made weapons in Waziristan and other tribal areas.


The actual news read something like this:

ISLAMABAD: Federal Minister for Interior Affairs Rehman Malik revealed security forces have caught as many as four Indian trucks, laden with arms and ammunitions, from here Islamabad on Wednesday, Geo news reported.


He said forces have also recovered from Bara area heavy amount of Indian made weaponry.


The two events are unrelated. The first one says: that the porkis "captured or caught" two India-made trucks (plenty of those in Avgan-isthan). The second one says: Indian-made (whatever that implies) weaponry recovered from Bara area. Heck, Bara is a town located approximately 10 km southwest of Peshawar where copied weaponry from all around the world is available in the grey market. Very cleverly, a la Zaid Hamid (pbuh), the porkis have tried to link the two events. This has gotten the average porki awaam crapping.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 11 Dec 2009 22:25

Even for massa, it is difficult to go into a neighborhood in Karachi to take out the top leadership. Its own forces on the ground the Xe/Blackwater can take out middle and smaller rung keedas without any problem.

But the top leadership is under the protection of the Pakistani agencies in addition to their own armed militia.

Unless pakistan directly cooperates, or the US is willing to take the gloves off, mullah omar and OBL (if he's still alive) are out of reach.
It is difficult for the US to take the gloves off wrt Pakistan. Pakistan does have its uses being present in that region.

Unless the US wants to get Mullah Omar and make a deal with him (Remember that with OBL, there will be no deals - too much bad blood in public). Then a reformed Mullah Omar can come back to Afghanistan and share power, use his talibs to spread the word of Islam into Xinjiang, and also keep India in check. Spreading Islam into Xinjiang is critical to cutting off China's access to CAR, and only the US with the Talibs can do that today.

The talibs can also protect US's afghanistan access into CAR.

The US is willing to withdraw extra offensive forces in 2 yrs time, but several contingents will remain in Afghansitan to ensure the CAR route is protected.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 11 Dec 2009 22:37

What would Pakistan demand from the US for Mullah Omar / OBL?

1. Money for the Generals and Politicians - The US is willing to do this, has done this in the past.
2. Resolution of Kashmir favorable to Pakistan - The real truth is that the Pakistani generals themselves don't want this resolved, this is a cash cow they've stewed for 6 decades and it has paid rich dividends to them, and they know that as long as India is rapidly developing, they have a chip that they intend to continue to encash. The US can only cajole India to a certain point, and that point is resumption of dialogue on Kashmir, which India is willing to indulge in for the next 100 years if need be. The US can't force Pakistan to give up terrorism either, so the game we're seeing being played in Kashmir is going to go on for several years.
3. Water from the kashmir rivers - This is a bogie raised by the pakistanis. Their stand has consistantly been proven to be incorrect whenever they have taken it for neutral mediation. India is will within the limits of the IWT and the pakistanis know it.
4. More trade - Pakistan does not export much, none of that export is such that can't be supplanted by much cheaper and better sources - in fact India and China, along with a dozen other rapidly developing countries, are quickly capturing what little market pakistan had due to the economic downturn pakistan is currently experiencing. There is no way they are getting that market back. There is not going to be any foreign investment there even if the GOTUS wants. India can continue to destabilize that country for the next 50 years if it wants - there will be no economy that can be developed there without India's support.
5. Nuke deal like India - short term brownie points with the pakistani public is all that this is worth. The pakistani nation does not have the money to pay for any western nuclear plants. No one is giving them any nuclear weapons henceforth, perhaps not even the chinese. And they don't have the intellectual depth to absorb any technology.
6. Everything that India has: Security council seat, huge economy etc - It is getting funny. The fact is that pakistanis know it that they can't compare their nation to India, India is a huge giant enroute to becoming G3, Pakistan can never reach those heights even with outside support.

I wonder what can the US give pakistan, that will be seriously detrimental to India.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Karan Dixit » 11 Dec 2009 22:52

Gagan wrote:Unless the US wants to get Mullah Omar and make a deal with him (Remember that with OBL, there will be no deals - too much bad blood in public). Then a reformed Mullah Omar can come back to Afghanistan and share power, use his talibs to spread the word of Islam into Xinjiang, and also keep India in check. Spreading Islam into Xinjiang is critical to cutting off China's access to CAR, and only the US with the Talibs can do that today.

The talibs can also protect US's afghanistan access into CAR.

The US is willing to withdraw extra offensive forces in 2 yrs time, but several contingents will remain in Afghansitan to ensure the CAR route is protected.


To United States' credit, it has recognized the fact that jihadis are very similar to walking talking fighting robots. They can be controlled effectively if right buttons are pushed. They are expandable even from the perspective of Islamic societies. Only problem is that something went haywire and robots are acting crazy these days. Bush administration tried hard to troubleshoot the robots to bring them back to the useful state (anti Soviet insurgency by jihadis is a textbook example of usefulness of walking talking fighting robots) but no luck. Obama administration is trying to distinguish between good robots and bad robots. However, this policy will be just another failure. Nothing more nothing less.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby KLNMurthy » 11 Dec 2009 23:41

Avinash R wrote:Zardari proposes but SD disposes

US rules out mediation on Kashmir

Washington, Dec 11 (IANS) Ruling out a mediatory role in Kashmir, the United States has said that while it understood the importance of the issue to both India and Pakistan, it was ultimately between the two nations to resolve.

'We understand the importance of the Kashmir issue to both Pakistan and India, and it is something that we do discuss with both countries,' State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley told reporters Thursday when asked to comment on such a suggestion by Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari.

'But obviously, at the end of a process that has to be something that is resolved ultimately between Pakistan and India with the active involvement of the people of Kashmir.'

Asked if the US saw any role for itself in this process, Crowley said: 'I'm not aware that we've been asked to play a specific role at this point.'

'I'll leave it there,' he added when pressed if the US did not see any role 'not even with Pakistan.'

Asked if he agreed with Zardari's view on resolving the Kashmir issue, he said: 'I'll let the president's view stand on its own.'

In an opinion piece published in the New York Times Thursday, Zardari had called upon the US to demonstrate American neutrality and willingness to help India and Pakistan overcome their mutual distrust by stepping up its efforts 'to mediate the Kashmir dispute'.


Not so, the bolded part is where the USA-ian mischief lies. Do the people of a state in India as a whole get actively involved in resolving India's international disputes?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby KLNMurthy » 11 Dec 2009 23:48

Gagan wrote:This is just grandstanding for the media. In private pakistan GUBOs like a nymphomanic whore that the country is.

They are quite willing to sell out the whole quetta shura, lock stock and barrel, the price has to be right. Mullah Omar might just do a permanent disappearing act if Ombaba can pay pakistan's price.


yeah and they have done it, selling the same guys over and over to the yanks

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby gandharva » 12 Dec 2009 02:09

Why their IT hates our IT

Ashok Malik

http://www.dailypioneer.com/222019/Why- ... ur-IT.html

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby pgbhat » 12 Dec 2009 02:22

Ties that bind: Lashkar and the global jihad ---- Praveen Swami
Muzammil Bhat, who investigators say supervised the training and execution of the November 2008 terror strikes in Mumbai, had arrived in Dubai to meet with a long-standing asset he hoped would facilitate operations inside India. But the former Nizambad commerce student, Abdul Razzak Masood, flatly refused to cooperate, saying India wasn’t the enemy. He demanded that the Lashkar, instead, focus its resources on targeting the United States, principal adversary of the Islamist movement.

Ever since the arrest of Pakistani-American jihadist David Headley — charged with carrying out the reconnaissance that enabled the carnage in Mumbai — intelligence services across the world have been revisiting the Masood case. Headley’s case has made clear that the Lashkar possesses transcontinental networks of global reach and lethality. Masood’s story helps to understand the complex ties that bind the Lashkar and the global jihadist movement.

First recruited by the Lashkar in 1998, Masood became a protégé of Arif Kasmani — a Karachi-based Partition migrant who is alleged to have financed the fire-bombing of the New Delhi-Lahore Samjhauta Express. Kasmani counted both al-Qaeda chief Osama bin-Laden and Taliban-linked cleric Nizamuddin Shamzai among his friends. He was among the key figures who persuaded the Lashkar leadership to sign a 1998 declaration by bin-Laden, calling for a global jihad.

Far from focussing on Kashmir, the Lashkar’s cadre joined in jihadist struggles across the world. For example, Lashkar units participated in the civil war in Tajikistan, which ran from 1992 to 1997. They also fought in Bosnia and Herzegovina. In a 1993 interview to the MDI magazine al-Dawa, Lashkar commander Abu Abdul Aziz — also known as Abdul Rehman al-Dosari — argued that the Bosnia campaign provided an opportunity to “make Islam enter Europe through jihad.”

By late last decade, the Lashkar’s transnational affiliations were evident. Pakistan’s Urdu-language daily Jang reported in December 1998 that jihadists from more than 50 countries had attended the Lashkar’s annual congregation at its Muridke headquarters. The invitation had proclaimed: “You can go to any jihadi frontline in the world and you will find Markaz Dawat wal’ Irshad mujahideen crushing the infidels and destroying the fortresses of the devil.”

The Pakistani state, the Lashkar leadership believed, was an ally in its jihadist project — not an enemy, as other Islamist groups increasingly came to believe. In the foundational Lashkar tract, Jihad in the Present Times, ideologue Abdul Salam bin-Mohammad argued that Pakistan’s rulers “do not at least outwardly and apparently disown Islam though they do follow a policy based on hypocrisy.” Saeed himself insisted that his organisation did “not believe in revolutionary change in Pakistan; rather we want a gradual reform.”


Pakistan’s establishment approved. In 1998, Punjab Governor Shahid Hamid, accompanied by a host of federal and provincial ministers, visited Muridke to “congratulate the Lashkar-e-Taiba on the martyrdom of their 418 mujahid in Indian-occupied Kashmir.”

Virginia residents Randall Todd Royer and Ibrahim Ahmed al-Hamdi, both trained at Lashkar camps in 2000, began to recruit volunteers on al-Timimi’s instructions. Four of the new recruits are known to have travelled to Pakistan to train with the Lashkar. One Virginia Jihad Network member, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, was eventually held in Saudi Arabia in 2003, on charges of participating in an al-Qaeda plan to crash hijacked aircraft into targets in the West.

Many of the Virginia Jihad Network members trained alongside Willie Brigitte — a French national who was arrested on charges of attempting to stage terrorist attacks in Australia. Brigitte is believed to have been given his instructions by Sajid Mir — the same Lashkar commander who is alleged to have handled David Headley. In interviews to French judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere, Brigitte confirmed that the Lashkar ran at least one camp for foreign jihadists. French investigators established that another Paris-based Lashkar operative, Ghulam Mustafa Rama, had links with Richard Reid — the jihadist who attempted to blow up a Paris-Miami flight with explosives planted in his shoes.

British national Dhiren Bharot was held along with six other men in April 2005 for planning to bomb multiple targets in the U.S., including the headquarters of Citigroup, the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund. Bharot, it turned out, had trained with the Lashkar in 1995, and then fought with jihadist units in Jammu and Kashmir. He became disillusioned with what he saw as a “secondary [sic.] rate jihad,” and went on to work with the al-Qaeda.

Lebanese national Assem Hammoud was held in April 2006 for planning to target Port Authority Trans-Hudson commuter trains running between New Jersey and New York. Hammoud told the Lebanese police that he had planned to travel to Pakistan to train at a Lashkar-run camp to acquire the skills needed to execute the attack. Early in 2005, British troops in Basra arrested Dilshad Ahmad, a key Lashkar commander who earlier served in Jammu and Kashmir.

Meanwhile, the Lashkar’s public posture became increasingly anti-West. On the eve of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Saeed declared that the “western world is terrorising Muslims. We are being invaded, humiliated, manipulated and looted. How else can we respond but through jihad?” He called for a “fight against the evil trio, America, Israel and India.”

By 2007, Saeed had become frankly hostile to the Pakistani establishment. In one speech reported on the Jamaat-ud-Dawa website, he demanded that Pakistan stop “trying to please the Christians and the Jews.” Later, he argued that “Muslim rulers have disappointed the Ummah [worldwide Muslim community]. It is time to wage jihad against them. They are not Muslims. They are the agents of Jews.”


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby AnantD » 12 Dec 2009 02:40

With respect to TSP aspirations of harming India and getting Kashmir, I think their goose is cooked!

Whatever goodwill TSP enjoyed with the American people, even wives of fizaya pilots, is gone since 2001. Whatever "love" there was in the military between them and the US, including the CIA, is vaporized since the the recession came on and TSP asked for more baksheesh. The KL-bill was intended to be KLPD to TSPA.

India is going to have to worry about unconventional/assymmetric warfare from TSP/dragon. The US is totally powerless wrt TSP, except if it comes to flying the national bird of TSP. Anything more in the open won't be allowed by the congress on cost alone, unless some US assets are harmed, at home or overseas, and it can't be kept hidden!

Pakistan should really worry about breaking up into different states, more like "humpty-dumpty", instead of talking about the "K" word. NWFP/Baluchistan is "never-ever" going to accept TSP governence in the future, for a hundred years, just for starters.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 12 Dec 2009 03:13

When was the last Pakistan Army tested a Chinese/North Korean missile ?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby pgbhat » 12 Dec 2009 04:15

‘Evidence against Indian meddling at appropriate time’
Talking to media after visiting the victims of Lahore blast at two hospitals, the PM said he and his Indian counterpart had agreed to take up all the issues in the composite dialogue during their Sharm Al-Shaikh meeting.

‘We will see what evidence at what time and at what forum should be presented,’ he added.

:rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Mahendra » 12 Dec 2009 04:26

pgbhat wrote:‘Evidence against Indian meddling at appropriate time’
Talking to media after visiting the victims of Lahore blast at two hospitals, the PM said he and his Indian counterpart had agreed to take up all the issues in the composite dialogue during their Sharm Al-Shaikh meeting.

‘We will see what evidence at what time and at what forum should be presented,’ he added.

:rotfl:

That evidence has been presented day in and day out @ deafndumbdefenceforum.com

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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In this five-combo photo released by Sargodha Police Department on Friday, Dec. 11, 2009, arrested American Muslims, from left, Waqir Hussain Khan, Ramys Zamzam, Umar Farooq, Ahmad Abdulminni, Aman Hasan Yamer are seen in Sargodha, Pakistan. Pakistani police say five young American Muslims detained over alleged terrorist links are most likely to be deported. (AP Photo/Sargodha Police Department)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 12 Dec 2009 04:58

gandharva wrote:Why their IT hates our IT
by Ashok Malik


Indeed India's IT poweress is a huge eyesore for the pakistanis. They will defenitely try and attack it. This article talks of an aerial attack to Bangalore. Pakistan's aquisition of aerial refuelers and AEW aircraft leaves India in danger of an aerial attack such as this.
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India needs long range coastal AESA radars at a few points along the coast that can keep an eye on the arabian sea. This is becoming vitally important for India's security.

But as is everything with pakistan, they are low tech. A JDAM attack or a mumbai type carnage or a truck bomb on India's IT companies is on any day. The pakistanis likely have such plans which they plan to put in use very soon.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 12 Dec 2009 05:06

Detained US nationals wanted to join anti-India militant groups
OK, we understand the Pakistanis. What is the takleef of the Egyptian, Eritrean and the Ethiopian ?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Karan Dixit » 12 Dec 2009 05:42

SSridhar wrote:Detained US nationals wanted to join anti-India militant groups
OK, we understand the Pakistanis. What is the takleef of the Egyptian, Eritrean and the Ethiopian ?


In my opinion after Pakistan, Egypt has to be the most radicalized Islamic country in the world. Egypt is not our priority on the BRF or else there are some things about Egypt that are just as amusing as Pakistan. Example: Egyptian TV telecasts play by play narrative of Egyptian president's daily rituals related to his hygiene. This includes when he took shower, when he went to toilet, etc. At the end of each play, Allah is thanked for keeping him (the president) safe.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby MurthyB » 12 Dec 2009 05:47

Wow, Waqir H. Khan amd Umar Farooq look really really TFTA, unlike the Somali and Ethiopian.

pgbhat wrote:Image
In this five-combo photo released by Sargodha Police Department on Friday, Dec. 11, 2009, arrested American Muslims, from left, Waqir Hussain Khan, Ramys Zamzam, Umar Farooq, Ahmad Abdulminni, Aman Hasan Yamer are seen in Sargodha, Pakistan. Pakistani police say five young American Muslims detained over alleged terrorist links are most likely to be deported. (AP Photo/Sargodha Police Department)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Hari Seldon » 12 Dec 2009 06:26

gandharva wrote:Why their IT hates our IT

Ashok Malik

http://www.dailypioneer.com/222019/Why- ... ur-IT.html


Interesting read. Tks for posting.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Avinash R » 12 Dec 2009 07:40

KV Rao wrote:
US rules out mediation on Kashmir
'But obviously, at the end of a process that has to be something that is resolved ultimately between Pakistan and India with the active involvement of the people of Kashmir.'


Not so, the bolded part is where the USA-ian mischief lies. Do the people of a state in India as a whole get actively involved in resolving India's international disputes?


When US SD says 'people of Kashmir' it's means Hurriyat conference. They are trying to protect their tool.They were instrumental in getting them together when they were fighting each other, IIRC it was some US diplomat who was responsible for setting up hurriyat.

India too is playing along and allowing Hurriyat leaders to goto sightseeing tours from Saudi to China, trying to act as the sole kashmiri voice and in the process make a fool of themselves. Everyone knows hurriyat influence is limited to getting it's goons to throw stones and lit fires. Other than that it's bheja khali with no agenda to speak of, even they know that and are afraid to contest elections.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby anupmisra » 12 Dec 2009 07:59

gandharva wrote:Why their IT hates our IT



This part doesn't make sense:

Besides, the Pakistani planes would be travelling on a suicide mission. They were certain to be shot down on their way back home from deep in the Deccan, if they got there in the first place. It made no sense.


So, according to this author, Indian defense systems would theoretically allow porki bombers, with mid-air refuellers and all, to reach Bangalore unimpeded and unhindered, and only get to shoot them down after the pigs have bombed the city? Who is minding the fort?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 12 Dec 2009 08:02

Boss,
if the hurriyat contests elections and wins, they will also have to solve things like poverty and infrastructures in the far off villages in the mountains.

India is still too poor to be able to do that. They will lose the people's trust the moment they come into power and start to make money.

They are just like Mamta Banerjee or Uma Bharati - good only for vitiating the atmosphere in opposition, no real intelligence to do any good once they get into power.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby NRao » 12 Dec 2009 08:04

need to keep some salt when we talk of PAF. PAF is more likely to be fully occupied in defending than anything else.

They seem to have lost their "strategic depth" - a place to hide their AF.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 12 Dec 2009 08:05

anupmisra wrote:So, according to this author, Indian defense systems would theoretically allow porki bombers, with mid-air refuellers and all, to reach Bangalore unimpeded and unhindered, and only get to shoot them down after the pigs have bombed the city? Who is minding the fort?

That struck me as odd too.

Pak Fizzaiya does not, I repeat does not, have the ability to penetrate more than 100 Km into the Indian nation. The SAM coverage, CAP fighters will take them out.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby shiv » 12 Dec 2009 08:17

It is not absolutely clear that the PAF and Pakistan army have the same aims. The PAF is very much the step-son, and a lot of the public hype is a carefully built up image by the very people who apparently brought PAF standards down - if Air Cdre Nosey Haider is to be believed.
In other words - it is unlikely that the PAF will undertake one way missions to Bangalore. Pakistan will aim to hit Bangalore with a missile and that means breakdown of deterrence because as Santhanam says, we have no deterrence.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 12 Dec 2009 08:47

That missile launch plan will fail.

Because pakistan will have to send some one with a flag into bangalore and then invite the BBC to prove it, as per Samar Mubarakmand.

These two criteria need to be met before pakistan's missile will hit the flag and thus the bulls eye. :((

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 12 Dec 2009 09:07

This is interesting. I had posted this link above, but didn't realize the following:
The madrassa management is said to have turned them away and advised them to approach the Jamat-ud-dawa in Lahore instead. But the JuD also turned them away.


These guys 'wanted to wage a jihad against “infidels” ' and they are advised to go to JuD in Lahore for that purpose and JuD continues to profess that it is a charity organization interested only in the Dawaah aspects of Islam ?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 12 Dec 2009 09:14

I had posted this in the last page, except that I'd heard that they were rejected by the LET and were now trying out the JEM.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 12 Dec 2009 09:20

Yusuf Muzammil - the main planner of 26/11
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby sum » 12 Dec 2009 09:29

IIRC it was some US diplomat who was responsible for setting up hurriyat.

Robin Raphael who has just returned from Hibernation into Ombaba's S.Asia team.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby enqyoob » 12 Dec 2009 09:33

Detained US nationals wanted to join anti-India militant groups


These 5 Darwin Award Aspirants seem to include only one that is TFTA.. what's up I wonder? More to the point, aren't these likely to be members of the PorkyDorkyDummmies Forum? Any reaction there, like there was after the Londonistan bus bombings?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 12 Dec 2009 09:35

^^^
Her Hubby was killed alongwith Zia in the plane crash. She is supposedly strongly anti india.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 12 Dec 2009 09:38

Wah! N^3,
You hit the nail on the head.
These buggers fit that profile perfectly. There are more such "darwin award" winners across the western world, specifically Canada and UQ, who need to be watched by the agencies.

I think it is too early to see any reaction in deafanddumb. Given their prolonged reflex times there will be an APB out for their fellow abduls by the time these guys are finishing their stint in Guano Bay.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby anupmisra » 12 Dec 2009 10:40

Right out of "Planet of the Apes".

Gagan wrote:Yusuf Muzammil - the main planner of 26/11
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby anupmisra » 12 Dec 2009 10:44

Gagan wrote:^^^
Her Hubby was killed alongwith Zia in the plane crash. She is supposedly strongly anti india.



Arnold Lewis Raphel: He was at one time married to fellow diplomat Robin Raphel, but they divorced prior to his death.
Gagan, buddy, you got something here.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Dipanker » 12 Dec 2009 10:47

Most of the Porky Dorkies Forumites living in US/Canada/UK are scared sh1tless, they know that FBI/MI5 are digging through all their posts on Deaf and Dumb and Porky Dorky Forums and it is only a matter of time before they will end up in the slammer.
They are busy editing their pan islamist jehadistic posts from early part of the decade, unfortunetly for them FBI has the backups from the ISP's!

Hasta la vista Porkies!


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