Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Guddu » 16 Dec 2009 06:27

Dilbu wrote:We call Aussie cricketers 'Kangaroos' and Newzealanders 'Kiwis' because these are commonly present icons of their country for the global mango abdul. By that logic 'terrorist' is a very apt name for people representing TS of P. One is okay and other is racist, hainji? Why the double standards and discrimination I ask?


Using your logic, pakis should be called khushboos :rotfl: terrorism is more aptly paki national sport.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Malayappan » 16 Dec 2009 06:52

pgbhat wrote:December 16 ---- Tayyab Siddiqui

It was a cold morning on December 17, 1972, when I as per routine entered the embassy. I saw hundreds of Sri Lankans sitting on the sprawling lawns. I went upstairs to inform the high commissioner of the presence of hundreds of Sri Lankans. In a brusque official tone he asked me to meet them. The 500 or so Muslims led by Sir Abubakar Fareed, who later served in Islamabad as Sri Lanka high commissioner, were sobbing and crying over the Dhaka surrender -- loss they could not bear.

His Excellency's date seems to be a year later. Was it shraadh or jumbled brain ("Thinking of you jumbles up my brain" - Lobo) or was there another 'fall' that we did not know of?


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby shiv » 16 Dec 2009 08:33

Cross posting for maximum visibility (please excuse)
Mumbai 26/11- Making Allah do Pakistan's work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-35hzc8PQ4

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby pgbhat » 16 Dec 2009 08:41

^Takes time to load. :-? Haven't watched complete video yet, but took liberty to link on BR-Facebook.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby sum » 16 Dec 2009 09:07

Snippet in India today:

Couple of weeks back, few Paki intruders ( not known if fishermen or terrosrists) were spotted in a creek in the Rann of Kutch near the IB. Since rules are stricter after 26/11, BSF took no chances and sent in a helo which fired on the intruders killing 6 of them. The Pakis then fitted other boats with concealed MMGs and sent them out again to lure the helo so that they could bring it down. A lone PAF arcraft ( not mentioned which) was also activated. Indians got wind of this and dispatched their MiGs from Bhuj which chased away the intruder and foiled the Paki plan to scalp a Indian helo.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 16 Dec 2009 09:12

Dilbu wrote:Pak, India must talk about Kashmir, everything: Clinton
"So we've encouraged both Pakistan and India to resume that dialogue and to talk about everything, including Kashmir, because now the security of both countries is threatened by these forces of extremism."

"And I believe that a lot of these terrorist groups are funded, directed, equipped, and trained by outside forces, not people from Pakistan, not people from India, but people who wish to see the two countries at - in conflict, and I think that is so critical to avoid. :?: And the only way to avoid it is by getting back into a dialogue," Clinton said.

In another interview with Watandost.com, she said an international effort by US, China and European Union could at best be a guarantor but an impetus for a dialogue must come from the two countries themselves.


Let me guess who these outside forces funding, directing, equipping and training terrorists operating in Kashmir and India who are neither people of India and Pakistani are :roll: :

Eyeranians?
Cubans?
Venezuelans?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 16 Dec 2009 09:16

Indeed,
perhaps they are
Martians?
Jupiterians?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Philip » 16 Dec 2009 09:21

Sure Hillary (arrogant little twit),we'll talk with Pak immediately after you sit down with Osama and the Taliban and break bread with them!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 16 Dec 2009 09:24

Gagan wrote:Indeed,
perhaps they are
Martians?
Jupiterians?


Sorry boss, unlikely that they are either Martians or Jupiterians.

The US Secretary of State did say clearly say "People".

That would also rule out Djinn's :wink: and "Non-State Actors" :wink: unless "Non-State Actors" happen to be robots :-? .

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby khan » 16 Dec 2009 09:39

Hari Seldon wrote:Times Now reporting that TSP team playing a test in NZ faced 'racial abuse' by spectators.

Deeper probing reveals that an NZ MP, his son and their friends were drunk and started chanting 'Pakistani terrorists' at the TSP team.

Somehow, I don't see what is racial about 'Pakistani terrorists' but Sri Zaheer Abbas seems all upset and indignant about H&D loss. The spectators defense IMHO would be that since half the TSP team is flowing beards anyway, pray what is one limey mite supposed to think?


By that logic, people can call Indian's, Sri Lankans and the African countries "beggars" - not trying to start a flame war, but it is reasonable to expect a measure of matureness from both the BRFites and the audience of a cricket game.

The cavity searches that the Paki's go through every time they cross a border is humiliation enough, there is no need to cede the moral high ground to them by calling them names.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 16 Dec 2009 09:42

X Posted.

The Islamic Republic of Iran provides the Islamic Republic of Pakistan with evidence linking the ISI to terrorists targeting Iran:

Iran presents evidence of Pakistan's links with Jundallah

Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:18:43 GMT

A senior Iranian official says Iran has presented evidence to Islamabad that shows links between Pakistani intelligence services and the Jundallah terrorist group.

Ebrahim Hamidi, the director of the Sistan-Baluchistan provincial justice department, said the documents were based on confessions obtained from Abdolmalek Rigi's brother Abdolhamid, who is currently in prison in Iran. …………………

Press TV, Iran

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Raju » 16 Dec 2009 09:45

By that logic, people can call Indian's, Sri Lankans and the African countries "beggars"


they were/are already calling us all that. What is new ?

what is new is the takleef only Pakistanis seem to have on calling them terrorists, which they are.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Mort Walker » 16 Dec 2009 09:48

Don't worry about Hillary, she's been sidelined by the BHO administration and there are too many cooks that are dealing with TSP and all of them have their heads in the sand like ostriches. McChrystal, Mullen, Holbrooke, Kerry and Biden are managing foreign affairs. Come this January, none of BHO's major bills in the US Congress will pass even after having a majority in both houses. Hillary will bail out and claim her senate seat once again to run for re-election. She'll easily win and challenge him within the party. BHO is done, we all just need to wait until Jan. 2013.

Raju,

Glen Beck is an idiot and makes less sense than my first cousin Zaid Hamid. He, and all of Fox News, does a great disservice to conservatives.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Airavat » 16 Dec 2009 09:50

shiv wrote:Cross posting for maximum visibility (please excuse)
Mumbai 26/11- Making Allah do Pakistan's work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-35hzc8PQ4


I liked the part where firing breaks out and the shell-shocked Pakjabi coward goes "Arrey?!"......the accompanying "Duh!" by the video author was quite fitting. :twisted:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 16 Dec 2009 10:38

The jihadis are upset that Punjab Chief Minister continued to claim they were not operating there and it was all the handiwork of Yahud-Hanud-Nasara conspiracy. So, how would they demonstrate their anger ? By bombing the house of the Senior Adviser to the Punjab CM.
That was what happened in DG Khan yesterday.
A suicide car bomb exploded in a market outside the home of the Punjab chief minister’s senior adviser, Zulfiqar Khosa in Dera Ghazi Khan on Tuesday, killing 33 people and wounding 60 others.

The attacker detonated his explosives outside Khosa’s house, who was not at home at the time.

A witness, Naeem, said a white-coloured car reached the gate of Khosa’s house and exploded, APP reported.

The attacker had packed the car with about 900 pounds (400 kilogrammes) of explosives, senior police officer Muhammad Rizwan said.

Zulfiqar Khosa’s son, Dost Muhammad Khosa, said two of his cousins were among the wounded.

“It was a direct attack on us,” Dost alleged, declining to speculate who was behind the blast.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 16 Dec 2009 11:17

This article in Foreign Policy by Seth Cropsey of the Hudson Institute reckons that the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is coming apart and coming apart sooner than later.

May the prediction come true.:

Will There Always Be a Pakistan?

Fissures within the military could tear not just the army but the entire country apart. It's coming sooner than you think.

BY SETH CROPSEY | DECEMBER 11, 2009 …………………….

Pakistan's military -- the lynchpin keeping the chaotic whole together -- isn't getting stronger. It's threatening to fracture from within. And today's fractures may well turn into tomorrow's chaos. …………………..

Signs are emerging that this is far from a unified military, with widening splits between secular and religious officers as well as problems among different Islamic sects. With official encouragement, for example, some Sunni officers have decided to grow out their beards, while Shiite officers are markedly absent from Sunni-led prayers.

In Pakistan, all this means more than just a troubled fighting force. The Army is rightly seen as the country's strongest institution -- the glue that holds the state together. Though not officially in power, the military has a strong hold over the civilian government and retains de facto veto power over much that gets done. If infighting weakens or shatters the military's cohesion, the implications for the future of the state itself are dire. …………………….


Found the mention that Punjabi’s are not dominant in the officer corps of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan surprising. Is that correct :?: :

In the military, Punjabis predominate in the enlisted ranks while Pashtuns and Mujahirs fill most officer posts.


Read it All:

Foreign Policy

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 16 Dec 2009 11:20

More on the Pakistani Armed forces. This time some of the stranger notions they seem to imbibe while in service.

Retired Commodore Tariq Majeed of the Navy of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is of the view that “Zionist International Jewry” was responsible for the secession of Bangladesh in 1971 :rotfl: :

Forced surrender in 1971

Published: December 16, 2009

TARIQ MAJEED

The political chaos in 1971 culminating in secession of Pakistan's Eastern Wing was the result of a plan executed jointly by USA, Israel, Britain, India and former Soviet Union. Its mastermind was the Zionist International Jewry that controls the power centres in these countries through its entrenched lobbies. The plan could not have succeeded without the active participation of a treacherous gang of some civil and military leaders within Pakistan.


I guess the fact that the “Martial Pakistani Muslim’s” so readily surrendered sticks in Pakistani craws and needs the fiction that the whole world was against Pakistan to provide a fig leaf for preserving the tattered shreds of the national ego.

Besides having a fervid imagination Commodore Tariq is also an eternal optimist :wink: :

East Pakistan, now Bangladesh, may still one day rejoin with the parent country.


Where else but from the Dr. Shireen Mazari edited Nation:

Forced surrender in 1971

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby A_Gupta » 16 Dec 2009 11:21

In that infamous interview with Naseerullah Babar, "Remembering our Warriors - Babar the Great"

10. How did the young officer view the 1950 ’Pindi Conspiracy Case ?

The conspiracy came as a surprise but all of us understood that it was a natural reaction against the abrupt ceasefire in the Kashmir War.


They thought they could have won if they kept fighting?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 16 Dec 2009 11:34

PORTLAND NEWS

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/inde ... akers.html

Musharraf, Rove among speakers heading to Portland in 2010
By Richard Read, The Oregonian
December 15, 2009, 7:44PM
The folks who attract big international names to Portland each year have done it again, landing Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's former president, to speak here in March.

Musharraf, who held what Time magazine termed the world's most dangerous job from 2001 to 2008, is the most enigmatic of the bunch. Derided as a dictator, Musharraf became a key U.S. ally during the Bush war on terror, balancing Washington's calls to crack down on extremism against demands from anti-American Islamist constituents.

"We don't get to hear very often what President Musharraf really thinks," said Wim Wiewel, Portland State University president and a series subscriber. "He was certainly a critical partner for the U.S. who nonetheless had to make all kinds of compromises with people who are enemies of the U.S."

Staff members strive to outdo themselves with luminaries for series. The task becomes more challenging each year -- past speakers include Mikhail Gorbachev, the Dalai Lama and Sandra Day O'Connor -- as speakers' bureaus demand higher fees.

Musharraf, set to appear March 15, is the most controversial and highest-profile speaker of this year's series. He declined requests to be interviewed, as did Stiglitz. He encountered angry Indian nationalists and other critics at a talk this year at Stanford University.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 16 Dec 2009 11:35

LATimes


U.S. steps up special operations mission in Afghanistan

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and- ... full.story

Special operations forces on rare occasions also have crossed the border into Pakistan to conduct raids there, angering the government in Islamabad and infuriating the Pakistani public.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 16 Dec 2009 11:39

Reuters

WITNESS - Failed state? Try Pakistan's M2 motorway

http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews ... 16?sp=true

By Alistair Scrutton

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - If you want a slice of peace and stability in a country with a reputation for violence and chaos, try Pakistan's M2 motorway.

There are many things in Pakistan that don't get into the news. Daily life, for one. Pakistani hospitality to strangers, foreigners like myself included, is another. The M2 is another sign that all is not what it appears in Pakistan, that much lies hidden behind the bad news.

On one of my first trips to Pakistan. I arrived at the border having just negotiated a one-lane country road in India with cows, rickshaws and donkey-driven carts.

I toted my luggage over to the Pakistan side, and within a short time my Pakistani taxi purred along the tarmac. The driver proudly showed off his English and played U.S. rock on FM radio. The announcer even had an American accent. Pakistan, for a moment, receded, and my M2 trip began.

The real Pakistan can be seen from the car window, but in the distance. Colourful painted lorries still ply those roads. Dirt poor villagers toil in brick factories, farmers on donkey carts go about their business.

Of course, four hours of mundane travel is quite enough. Arriving in Lahore, the road suddenly turns into South Asia once again. Dust seeps through the open car window, endless honks sound, beggars knock on car windows. The driver begins again his daily, dangerous battle for road supremacy.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 16 Dec 2009 11:41

Pakistan team racially abused in New Zealand

http://sports.in.msn.com/cricket/articl ... id=3484381

A brother of New Zealand MP Chris Tremain and his 17 friends chanted slogans of 'Pakistani terrorists' from a corporate box at the McLean Park, New Zealand media reports said.

A sign saying "No racist comments please" was displayed on the park's scoreboard about 5 p.m.

However, Pakistan manager Abdul Raqeeb said that he and his players didn't hear any racist remarks.

According to New Zealand media reports, a corporate box hired by a brother of National MP Chris Tremain was refused alcohol after racial abuse was hurled at Pakistani cricketers.

Mark Tremain, 38, younger brother of the Napier MP and son of rugby legend Kel Tremain, hired the family company Tremain Real Estate's corporate box for themselves Saturday, the second day of the Pakistan-New Zealand test.

Spectator Bill Stacey, of Clive, said he was embarrassed by the group's "drunken stupidity" and the racist comments, which included shouts of "Pakistani terrorists".

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 16 Dec 2009 11:43

Lest we forget

http://blog.dawn.com/2009/12/16/lest-we-forget/

I cannot remember the exact moment when it first struck me, the fact that Bangladesh was once a part of Pakistan. But I do remember that India was the consummate villain; Indian influence created rebellion in the eastern wing and Indian military intervention caused it to finally break away. At least that’s what the history textbooks in school told us.

It took a history course at a university in a far away country for me to pick up Brigadier Siddiq Salik’s 1978 book Witness to Surrender (Urdu version: Mainey Dhaka Doobtay Dekha), which is based on his recollections of the events leading up to the war of 1971 and the consequent loss of the eastern wing.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Suppiah » 16 Dec 2009 11:44

Nayak wrote:Pakistan team racially abused in New Zealand

http://sports.in.msn.com/cricket/articl ... id=3484381

However, Pakistan manager Abdul Raqeeb said that he and his players didn't hear any racist remarks.



He is right..they were just calling the Pakbarian animals the way they should be called - terrorists. It is not an issue of race at all.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 16 Dec 2009 11:54

A_Gupta wrote:In that infamous interview with Naseerullah Babar, "Remembering our Warriors - Babar the Great"

10. How did the young officer view the 1950 ’Pindi Conspiracy Case ?

The conspiracy came as a surprise but all of us understood that it was a natural reaction against the abrupt ceasefire in the Kashmir War.


They thought they could have won if they kept fighting?


A_Gupta, which interview are you referring to ?

To answer your question, yes, Major Akbar Khan's (later Maj. Gen.) biggest issue was that. He was the major conspirator in the Pindi conspiracy. It was he, calling himself as Gen. Tariq, after the legendary Muslim warrior who attacked Gibraltar, who was directing the Kashmir operations in those days.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 16 Dec 2009 12:03

^^^^ Presumably this interview:

Babar "the great"

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby pgbhat » 16 Dec 2009 12:10

Christmas preparations in full swing
It would be a merry christmas if none of them get blown up. :roll:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Malayappan » 16 Dec 2009 13:39

Pakistani Army’s Victories Fail to Halt Taliban’s Blows By Eric Schmitt and Salman Masood, The New York Times, December 15, 2009
Excerpts -
By striking repeatedly in recent weeks with seeming impunity, the Pakistani Taliban are winning an all-important propaganda war here, the official said, by conveying a reach and strength that may be greater than the group’s real capacities, the official said
“The psychological message they’re trying to transmit is, ‘Yes, you the Pakistani Army, you can throw three infantry divisions at South Waziristan, and look what I can still do,’ ” said the American Embassy official
American officials say that many of the Pakistani Taliban’s top leaders have eluded the offensive, moving north to conduct their operations from parts of the tribal areas like Khyber, Kurram and Orakzai.
...insurgency is a battle of perception.”
Known as the gateway to Punjab, Dera Ghazi Khan is strategically located and borders both the North-West Frontier Province and Baluchistan Province. Recently, concern has grown that Al Qaeda and the Pakistani Taliban, which are based in the tribal regions, are using Dera Ghazi Khan as a route to make inroads in Punjab, the country’s most populous province.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 16 Dec 2009 14:20

Blast heard in Rawalpindi.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Suppiah » 16 Dec 2009 14:41

While we wait for good news on Rawalpindi front, let us read about this PAF crash

http://www.geo.tv/12-16-2009/54865.htm

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Suppiah » 16 Dec 2009 14:48

BTW Sridhar garu, be careful about publishing news before DAWN, GEO et al publish yet, otherwise the Pak FM and Irrigation minister will use that as further proof of yyy hand in these blasts :lol:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 16 Dec 2009 14:58

It fizzled out.
Link
People got panic-stricken when a gas cylinder exploded at Chohar Chawk area of Rawalpindi, Geo News reported Wednesday.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby KaranR » 16 Dec 2009 15:29

And I believe that a lot of these terrorist groups are funded, directed, equipped, and trained by outside forces, not people from Pakistan, not people from India, but people who wish to see the two countries at - in conflict, and I think that is so critical to avoid.



Could be the American’s CIA, British, or Chinese!! :eek:


"Pakistan approves purchase of AWACS aircraft from Sweden Pakistan had signed a 1-billion-dollar deal with Sweden in October."


I wonder who is paying for this very secret deal. Could it be the Americans to appease the Paks . :?:


Fidel Castor has read the Obama correctly,” don’t be fooled by the smiles of Obama”! Fidel Castro says President Barack Obama's "friendly smile and African-American face" are hiding Washington's sinister intentions for Latin America"
Same applies to relation with India.
I think PM Manmohan seem to have read the American correctly. :)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 16 Dec 2009 15:30

SSridhar wrote:Pakistan Army & CIA are the threats to the Democratic Government: Federal lawyer in Supreme Court
The differences between Pakistan’s civilian government and its all powerful military spilled out in the open on Monday with a lawyer representing the government telling the Supreme Court that the army and an American intelligence agency posed a threat to the country’s democracy.

Later, Pakistan Army chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani called on Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani. It was an unscheduled meeting, and came after he had already met the Prime Minister once before in the day along with the visiting U.S. Centcom chief, General David Petraeus.

A stunned full court, comprising all 17 functioning judges, heard from Kamal Azfar, a senior lawyer representing the federal government in the NRO case, that the elected government feared destabilisation by the Pakistan Army and the Central Intelligence Agency.

The lawyer, a former Governor of the Sindh province, last week filed an application on behalf of the government . . .

At Monday’s hearing, the court repeatedly quizzed Mr. Azfar about the government’s apprehensions. At first the lawyer said there were “extra-constitutional” forces within and outside Pakistan.

But asked to clarify the statement, the lawyer said: “If you want me to be open, the danger is from CIA and GHQ [General Headquarters of the Pakistan Army]”.
:rotfl:

The court wanted Mr. Azfar to give it in writing, but appearing to backtrack somewhat, he said these were his personal views.

But observers see the statement as a surprisingly open admission of differences between Pakistan’s civilian dispensation and the military, with potentially damaging consequences for the already embattled government.



Yet another flipflop by the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Yesterday the CIA and the Pakistan Army (GHQ) were the threats to democracy in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Today neither the CIA nor GHQ are threats to democracy in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan :

Wednesday, December 16, 2009

Taliban actual threat to democracy, Azfar tells SC

Govt’s attorney alters statement made on Monday, claims he had said General Headquarters had destabilised system in past

Staff Report

ISLAMABAD: An attorney for the federal government – Barrister Kamal Azfar – on Tuesday altered a statement he made in the Supreme Court on Monday, saying the actual threat to democracy was the Taliban, not the CIA and General Headquarters.

The latest statement is also markedly different from the lawyer’s comments on Thursday, wherein he said Pakistan was at a crossroads – with one road leading to destabilisation and the other to a sustained democracy.

Army chief: Azfar asked the court to expunge the para on General Headquarters from the statement, and claimed he had said General Headquarters had been destabilising democracy in the past. He said, “I know that the current army chief is a gentleman,” he said. …………………..

Daily Times

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Lilo » 16 Dec 2009 15:55

Yet another flipflop by the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.


all to keep the abduls confused onlee and prevent building up of revolutionary zeal against the "establishment"
when americans are out of the game their ambiguous back and forths will turn into hard fisted accusations (for all their ills- real and imagined) on SDREs ala pre Sept 2001.

the paki elites realize they cant take on amrikhans and indians at the same time.
but they cant sell that to the abduls on the street in any measure :((

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 16 Dec 2009 16:22

arun wrote:Yet another flipflop by the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Yesterday the CIA and the Pakistan Army (GHQ) were the threats to democracy in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Today neither the CIA nor GHQ are threats to democracy in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan :

Taliban actual threat to democracy, Azfar tells SC


Kamal Azfar, a senior Barrister practising in the Supreme Court is a constitutional lawyer, a close friend of Asif Zardari and an ex-Governor of the Sind. He would not have made the statements casually. Gen. Kiyani met Gilani after the Supreme Court stunner came out in the open. Immediately thereafter, Gilani issued a statement chiding the lawyer. Barrister Kamal Azfar has therefore decided to water down the statement today. However, he still maintained that though the present COAS incumbent is a 'gentleman', the GHQ had been interfering earlier.

This is going to be one more nail in the political coffin of Zardari as far as the Army goes. The Army's dislike for Zardari is already a long laundry list. His attempt at bringing ISI under civilian control, his description of India as not the threat, his views on nuclear weapons and the NPT, his decision to send the ISI chief to India after 26/11 etc. have greatly infuriated the PA. Add to that the general dislike of the Army, as an institution, for the Bhutto family.

For his part, Zardari's suspicion of the PA is no less either. It was the PA/ISI that floated the 'minus one' theory trying to undermine the political credibility of Zardari (not that he enjoys much anyway). He also didn't relish the interference of Kiyani in the dispute over the re-installation of the CJP, Iftikhar Chaudhry, especially the multiple midnight meetings he had with the Punjab CM. Zardari also feels, rightly so, that Gilani's new found elevated levels of testosterone are because of the support he derives from Kiyani. Zardari has been forced to relinquish control of the nuclear button though he made it appear as though it was voluntary and in line with decentralization of Presidential powers.

The hatred is mutual, deep and complete.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Lilo » 16 Dec 2009 16:32

Why sanctions against Iran would discomfit Pakistan - Irfan Husain

a brainless analysis but some facts on iran-pak smuggling are worthwhile.

Gawadur, Pakistan’s coastal town near the Iranian border, to realize the scale of the smuggling. In the market there, locals can buy everything from frozen chickens to crockery from Iran. Carried on pick-up trucks that drive up and down the flat, hard beach connecting the two countries along the coast, there are virtually no restrictions on this trade placed by either country.


In Baluchistan , the petrol sold is usually from Iran, smuggled across in tankers, as it’s cheaper because of subsidies compared to Pakistan’s heavily taxed petroleum products.


hmm if pick ups can ply so easily why not some armour from an LPD :lol:
btw is this the route our nanha mujahids are smuggled into pak with out a paki stamp on their passports ?

Bombing Quetta?- ROBERT DREYFUSS

another schizophrenic analysis by an american tending towards the same refrain..
"Haqqani strategic chuha of pak against india in afghan" therefore bla blah .

why did using terrorists as strategic chuhas again suddenly become legitimate for liberal western media?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 16 Dec 2009 16:39

Killing Squads
An unnerving thing happened the other day. I was invited to a friend’s house for a cup of tea. There I met two people: one, who currently works at the US embassy, had fought with the Al Badrs, a religious killing squad that allied with Pakistan during the Liberation War in 1971. The other is the head of English in one of Dhaka’s universities, and his brother narrowly escaped being executed by the very man who now sat across the table from him.

The men did not recognise each other at first, not until they both introduced themselves to me. I was the penny, and when it dropped, the atmosphere became, for lack of a better word, ‘unfriendly.’ The ex-Al Badr made a dash for the door. The professor, blood curdled, partly with shock but mostly with rage, summoned up the courage to explain why.

During the Liberation, the professor’s brother had been working as an artist, a trade which the Al-Badrs considered to be anti-Islam and hence anti-Pakistan. In the dying stages of the war, just days before liberation, the professor’s brother found himself at the mercy of the ‘killing squad.’ Many others around the country – including intellectuals, Hindus, artists – considered to be progressive and pro-liberation had already been hunted down and executed by these pro-Pakistan squads. However, after independence, only a handful of these killers were caught and most escaped, never to face trial.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 16 Dec 2009 16:48

Supreme Court asks counsel to explain 'GHQ Threats'
‘I am still groping in the dark, especially after the statement of federal government’s counsel Kamal Azfar that there is some lurking menace. I do not comprehend because nothing is forthcoming from the government’s side.

Tell us if the GHQ (General Headquarters) is doing something. Then we can pass a restraining order :rotfl: ,{Does the very learned judge seriously think that the PA would be bound by SC's orders ? Doesn't the Constitution say that usurping power is punishable by death and yet Musharraf not only proceeded to do exactly so but also ruled for 10 long years ?} but if it is the question of saving President Asif Ali Zardari then this should be clearly addressed so that we can answer to this,’ observed Justice Jawwad S. Khawaja, a member of the 17-judge bench hearing the petitions against controversial National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO).

‘We should not be left guessing,’ the judge said, adding that there was a manner to remove the president through impeachment process. He assured the government that the Supreme Court would be the last institution to impinge on the rights of parliament.


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