Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby AnantD » 20 Dec 2009 19:54

Instead of openly confronting the enemy,Americans might be adopting a Machiavellian way of bringing TSP in line.


This way of dealing with TSP started just before Musharraf left the Country. It is headed more towards using National birds more and more openly and blatantly. There goes the Sovirginity. :D

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby anupmisra » 20 Dec 2009 20:06

Aporkalypse Now. Blame everything on the Afghans. Dated but worth a watch. Watch a younger Botox "pinky" Bebe in the last piece.

Porki story 1
Porki story 2
Porki story 3
Porki story 4

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gerard » 20 Dec 2009 20:12

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Pakistan - the gift that keeps on giving

Police expect Mumbai-style terror attack on City of London

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gerard » 20 Dec 2009 20:14

AnantD wrote:This way of dealing with TSP started just before Musharraf left the Country. It is headed more towards using National birds more and more openly and blatantly.


It is only when the national bird becomes the B-52 that Paki behavior will change

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 20 Dec 2009 20:27

Disabled Athletes Pursue Dreams on Pakistan Pitches

http://thejakartaglobe.com/sports/disab ... hes/348432

Karachi. Akseer Abbasi thought his childhood dream of playing cricket for Pakistan was obliterated when his cousin accidentally shot him in the knee and he lost his right leg 15 years ago.

“I have read a lot about the history of Kashmir, but I don’t want to comment on that . My interest is that if cricket can bring peace and harmony, then why not? I would love to be part of that.”

“Abbasi is no ordinary cricketer, and it would be great to have a Kashmiri player on an India tour,” said Amiruddin Ansari, secretary of the Pakistan Disabled Cricket Association, formed in 2007.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 20 Dec 2009 20:31

Risk of Gulf remittances falling: World Bank

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... nk--szh-07

ISLAMABAD: The recent debt payment problems of the Dubai World could lead to tightening of credit in the region, pointing to downside risks for South Asian migrants, working in the Gulf and reduced flow of remittances to their home countries, World Bank says in its latest report.

‘Should a significant portion of the stock of expatriate workers return home with accumulated savings due to downturn in the Gulf, near-term remittances inflow may likely rise,’ according to ‘Global Economic Prospects 2010: Crisis, Finance and Growth in Developing Countries.’

ISLAMABAD: The recent debt payment problems of the Dubai World could lead to tightening of credit in the region, pointing to downside risks for South Asian migrants, working in the Gulf and reduced flow of remittances to their home countries, World Bank says in its latest report.

‘Should a significant portion of the stock of expatriate workers return home with accumulated savings due to downturn in the Gulf, near-term remittances inflow may likely rise,’ according to ‘Global Economic Prospects 2010: Crisis, Finance and Growth in Developing Countries.

Expect more demands for baksheesh from terrorrist sponsoring state of pakistan from sugar daddy

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 20 Dec 2009 20:37

Bridging literacy and cultural gaps in Pakistan

http://www.altmuslimah.com/a/b/r/3472/

One of the most disconcerting experiences I had in Pakistan was seeing young girls who didn’t have the privilege of formal schooling that I‘ve had. As servants, they earned money by cleaning houses and often could matriculate only to about a 3rd grade level of education,

“It was once assumed that the reasons behind low female school enrollments were cultural, but research conducted by the Ministry for Women's Development and a number of international donor agencies in the 1980s revealed that danger to a woman's honor was parents' most crucial concern. Indeed, reluctance to accept schooling for women turned to enthusiasm when parents in rural Punjab and rural Balochistan could be guaranteed their daughters' safety and, hence, their honor.” (1)

Pakistan is all about honor and dignity onlee.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 20 Dec 2009 20:38

Three tales of failed nation building by Americans overseas.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.ph ... e&sid=9855

nation-building.jpgWe have three articles from today's New York Times which show very clearly why our constant efforts at 'nation building' are often a waste of time. And that is to say nothing of the American blood being shed needlessly with the associated shattered lives of soldiers and sailors, airmen and marines.

You see, the thing about war is, it is easy to expand and damned near impossible to control. Now we are in. How do we get out?

So what do you think? Should we bankroll a war in Pakistan next? Do we need to engage in "nation building" there too? How do you think the Pakistanis feel about that? How much will that cost in American blood and treasure?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 20 Dec 2009 20:39

Ulema take out peace rally in Islamabad

http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=94023

The participants said that they stand by the armed forces of Pakistan and pay tribute to their jihad.

The participants vowed they would continue their efforts to promote peace.

On this occasion, the interior minister said that the people, who were trained for carrying out suicide attacks, are now escaping from the custody of terrorists.


He said Taliban are Zaliban. :P :P :P

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 20 Dec 2009 20:42

Pakistan turns down Indian oil proposal

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... l---szh-04

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has turned down an Indian proposal for collective import of crude oil in the South Asian region.

The proposal has been turned down on the grounds that all countries have separate dynamics and different crude oil requirements. :cry:

Afghanistan imports its fuel requirement through Pakistan, including the petroleum fuel demand of Nato forces while the demand in Bhutan and Nepal is met through imports from India.

However, sources said that strong reservations have been expressed on the ground that such an arrangement would provide an opportunity to India to become a regional player.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 20 Dec 2009 20:43

Pak refuses transit to Indian goods

http://www.ptinews.com/news/432570_Pak- ... dian-goods

Islamabad, Dec 20 (PTI) Pakistan did not agree to allow Indian goods to transit through its territory into Afghanistan during the latest round of talks on a new Afghan-Pak transit trade agreement.

An Afghan official said the issue was a "minor irritant" and would not derail the talks between Kabul and Islamabad.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 20 Dec 2009 20:46

US strings aid to Pak with visas for defence auditors

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/sou ... 92153.html

Islamabad, Dec.20 (ANI): The United States has stringed the reimbursement of over a billion dollars in aid in the shape of Coalition Support Fund (CSF) to Pakistan during the next six months with granting of visas to American defence auditors, who are supposed to keep track of where the aid money is being used.

According to sources, the Obama administration, in its latest communication to Islamabad, has slapped the condition that future aid money through the CSF as well as the Kerry Lugar aid would be released only if Pakistan grants visas to US defence auditors and other civilian auditors who would be assigned to ensure monitoring for achieving transparency in spending.

The US authorities have so far indicated that it would disburse 349 million dollars during the third quarter (Jan-March) of the ongoing fiscal year while another 950 million dollars to 1.1 billion dollars would be released during the fourth quarter (April-June) of the 2009-10 fiscal year, sources said.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 20 Dec 2009 20:48

Karachi has great strategic importance in the region: Kamal

http://www.regionaltimes.com/20dec2009/ ... arachi.htm

KARACHI: City Nazim Syed Mustafa Kamal has said that the city government has presented a successful model of good governance in Karachi which has been appreciated all over the world. He said that during the past four years, development works worth Rs 250 billion have been carried out in this city which also holds strategic importance in the region.
He expressed these views while addressing the participants of the National Defence Course at a local hotel on Saturday. The 77 member delegation comprising senior army officers from Pakistan, France, Australia, Malysia, Nigeria and other countries was on its study tour of Karachi.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby anupmisra » 20 Dec 2009 21:27

Raising the ante. Read the careful word play. Resolution of Kashmir issue a must. So far, nothing new that you havent heard before. Now read what the groper actually said:

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani on Saturday urged the international community to realise that peace and stability in South Asia can only be guaranteed if all outstanding issues between Pakistan and India, including the Kashmir dispute. are resolved.


Be prepared for a longer list to emerge.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby kasthuri » 21 Dec 2009 01:10

TSP high-commissioner in Devil's Advocate: Ball is in India's court, it must talk: Pak envoy
Shahid Malik: I'm glad that you have made that reference that we are not moving fast enough because this is exactly what we have been asking the Indian government as well as our own investigations that please give us sufficient evidence so that it strengthens our hand { :roll: } in taking the case forward in the Supreme Court.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby pgbhat » 21 Dec 2009 01:24

^
India and Pakistan follow the same justice system
:roll:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby pgbhat » 21 Dec 2009 06:00

Smokers’ Corner: It is us ---- Nadeem Paracha
This brew, present in the history books our children are taught, has been gradually turning the average Pakistani into a paranoid and pessimistic android who, as if instinctively, lets out his frustrations by pounding the democrats with cynical blows, also swinging wildly at Pakistan’s many enemies he is told are lurking within and outside its borders.

In this mangled discourse, the documented horrors of the long military dictatorships that this republic has suffered are conveniently forgotten; sometimes even by those in the political and journalistic circles who had struggled hard for a democratic setup; they suddenly seem to lose all their painfully cultivated tolerance and patience, once that democratic setup is revived.

No wonder, in this day and age, we are still debating whether democracy is right for Pakistan, and/or is it compatible with Islam. It is not surprising that such debates crop up in a nation constantly injected with a heavy dose of dubious history which begins not five thousand years ago with the Indus Valley Civilisation, but many centuries later with Muhammad Bin Qasim’s conquest of Sindh. In fact, some textbooks have had no qualms of completely bypassing logic by claiming that Qasim was actually the first Pakistani!

Back in 1971, very few Pakistanis were willing to advise Yahya Khan to get into a dialogue with rebelling Bengalis. But today, after years of unprecedented violence perpetrated by the Taliban, we have many politicians, TV hosts, and journalists suggesting a dialogue with men who one can’t even be described as human. These people’s minds and those of their followers have been influenced by all the concocted and mythical moments of glory, and of justified hatred in the name of religion and patriotism present in our historical discourse and the false memories that it has created in us.

Unfortunately such demagogic claptrap still manages to pass as being Pakistan and Muslim history in the textbooks and on popular TV.

He is 400% raw agent. :P

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby pgbhat » 21 Dec 2009 06:11

Age of darkness ---- The News Edit
In Lahore, and other cities in Punjab, gas shortages have begun to hit domestic consumers. Though there has been no formal announcement of gas loadshedding, consumers report gas shutdowns or reductions in pressure that make it impossible to light stoves, heaters or geysers. To add to the gloom, we are now told power loadshedding of up to four hours a day has resumed. We are told it will be increased by December 25 – evidently as a kind of cruel Christmas present. The combination of life with neither power nor gas, as winter descends in earnest, is hardly something to look forward too. The shutting off of gas also presents dangers in terms of poisoning. It is true the Sui Northern Gas Pipelines Company has been issuing warnings about the need for caution, but the fact is these will not always be respected in a country where the literacy rate is barely 50 per cent. As for the suggestions from the company regarding gas conservation, while it is true that we must all do our bit to save energy, the prospect of wearing heavy coats constantly inside homes rather than use gas-heaters is, quite simply, an unrealistic one.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby pgbhat » 21 Dec 2009 06:32

A forgotten millennium ---- Asif Ezdi
Sixteenth December is a shameful date in our recent history. About 80,000 Pakistani soldiers surrendered at Dhaka on this day in 1971, handing the greatest victory ever to a Hindu army over a Muslim force. Indira Gandhi, Indian Prime Minister at the time, exulted at a public meeting: “Today we have erased the ignominy of a thousand years of our dark history”. :-? She was referring to the long period of Muslim rule of the subcontinent, which began a millennium ago and continued for about eight centuries.

But it is a powerful commentary on our sense of history that while we remember the anniversary of our recent defeat at Dhaka and the loss of East Pakistan, we have allowed the millennium of the establishment of Muslim rule in present-day NWFP and Punjab to pass unnoticed. Muslim dominion over these areas was heralded a thousand years ago by the defeat of Jaipal and his successor Anandpal of the Hindu Shahi dynasty by the Ghaznavi rulers Sabuktagin and Mahmud in four memorable battles. The territories over which Jaipal ruled at the time of his warfare with Sabuktagin included Peshawar and Lahore and according to Tarikh-e-Ferishta extended “in length from Sirhind to Laghman and in breadth from the kingdom of Kashmir to Multan.” In the ninth century the kingdom of the Shahis had been even bigger and included parts of Afghanistan around Kabul. It had since lost most of the territories in Afghanistan to the advancing tide of Muslims from central Asia but still comprised Laghman west of Jalalabad.

Over the past half century, the teaching of history has been downgraded in our educational system. There is little research and the number of quality books being written is negligible. Moreover, the history of Pakistan has been redefined to mean either the history of the Pakistan movement or that of Muslim rule of South Asia. The former is a very partial and the latter a selective approach. It means that the two and a half centuries of decline of Muslim political power after Aurangzeb are largely blacked out from our text-books. Our younger generation knows very little of the Maratha ascendancy and of Sikh rule over Punjab and – briefly over NWFP – that followed the collapse of Mughal power. The pre-Islamic period also receives very little mention.

A nation’s history includes all those past events which have shaped its character. The more recent they are, they more they are likely to have impacted on the present. Pakistan is a country with a long and rich history. Like the history of other nations, ours too had its ups and downs, its triumphs and setbacks. We need to remember all of them.

Henry S Commager, an American historian, wrote: “A people without a history is like a man without memory.” A corollary of this dictum is that a nation that it is selective about its history is like a man with partial amnesia. Clearly, we need to jog our collective historical memory.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby chilarai » 21 Dec 2009 06:56

Sixteenth December is a shameful date in our recent history. About 80,000 Pakistani soldiers surrendered at Dhaka on this day in 1971, handing the greatest victory ever to a Hindu army over a Muslim force.


Everytime they try to slip in reduced numbers , the 90,000 figure should be hammered back into their heads !

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arnab » 21 Dec 2009 07:01

Indira Gandhi, Indian Prime Minister at the time, exulted at a public meeting: “Today we have erased the ignominy of a thousand years of our dark history”. She was referring to the long period of Muslim rule of the subcontinent, which began a millennium ago and continued for about eight centuries


I'm pretty sure this is pure BS. This Zaidi is a member of the paki foreign service - lying comes naturally to them. This is akin to another story about how when Israel retook Jerusalam, apparently Moshe Dayan said - 'Saladin we are back'

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 21 Dec 2009 07:43

A long and mostly lonely battle for reordering Pakistan - Nirupama Subramanian in The Hindu
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. . . main petitioner in the case {of NRO} was none other than an old political associate of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, and a co-founder of the party back in 1967. . . . But the 88-year-old Mubashir Hasan, whose petition against the NRO became a cause celebre in the country with the verdict setting off political tremors, believes the judgment will bring about no fundamental changes in Pakistan.

“The people of Pakistan are extremely happy, so I’m happy too. But since I know the reality, I do not entertain the hope that this will stop the state of Pakistan from falling apart,” he said. . . The judgment may delay the process, but Pakistan was destined to perish unless it underwent a radical reconstruction, he predicted . . . Taking a side-swipe, he said this was true for India and Bangladesh too, except that Pakistan’s condition was far worse. {That is pure, unadulterated Pakiness in full display}

Dr. Hasan, who parted ways with the PPP when Benazir Bhutto took charge of it after her father’s hanging, is seen as one of the few good men left in Pakistan, reputed both for his personal and political integrity and razor-sharp intellect.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby shiv » 21 Dec 2009 08:17

I post this for the younger BRFites who were not born then or were too young and the Paklurks who live in denial. This song, called "Bangladesh" was sung by a lady called Joan Baez. Check the words of the song from time 3:11. This is what the army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan did in 1971

"Did you read about the army officer's plea
For donor's blood, it was given willingly
by boys who took a needle in their veins
and from their bodies
every drop of blood was drained
no time to comprehend..
and there was little pain"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JM_Tq5LGgc

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Jarita » 21 Dec 2009 08:26

^^^ What a horror
These are pple who had no qualms abt torturing our POWs. Saurabh Kalia is one of the few we know off.
Psyche is totally damaged. It will require multiple generations for them to become human again

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 21 Dec 2009 08:29

The stanza before this refers to the attack on the Dhaka University campus and Hostels.

She says something like the students were killed in their sleep and from the corridors women shrieks came.

Amazing find Saar.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby krithivas » 21 Dec 2009 08:53

This means that Pakiland has to pay cold cash for buying their crude instead of the H&D laced begging bowl (i.e., Saudi Credit). Pakiland is the leading beggar in this soup kitchen - Of course, India is not a regional player.

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Nayak wrote:Pakistan turns down Indian oil proposal

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... l---szh-04

However, sources said that strong reservations have been expressed on the ground that such an arrangement would provide an opportunity to India to become a regional player.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 21 Dec 2009 09:08

Perhaps the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s campaign to promote a “Soft Image” of Pakistan has resulted in a new form of Islamic Terrorism, “Cool Jihad” :

Did 'Jihadi cool' lure 5 Americans to Pakistan?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby shiv » 21 Dec 2009 09:10

Jarita wrote:Psyche is totally damaged. It will require multiple generations for them to become human again


This is what our children need to know because this is the cancer they will be required to deal with. Do not allow secularism to come in the way of telling your children the truth about what Pakistan has been doing in the name of Islam.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby shiv » 21 Dec 2009 09:17

Gagan wrote:The stanza before this refers to the attack on the Dhaka University campus and Hostels.

She says something like the students were killed in their sleep and from the corridors women shrieks came.


Gagan a part of the song and the shootings at Dhaka university campus feature in this montage of video clips about the genocide in East Pakistan by Pakistani army soldiers. IIRC a young Indian lass called Angana Chatterjee denies that it occurred at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x-94U1bVUQ

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Dipanker » 21 Dec 2009 09:21

arnab wrote:
Indira Gandhi, Indian Prime Minister at the time, exulted at a public meeting: “Today we have erased the ignominy of a thousand years of our dark history”. She was referring to the long period of Muslim rule of the subcontinent, which began a millennium ago and continued for about eight centuries


I'm pretty sure this is pure BS. This Zaidi is a member of the paki foreign service - lying comes naturally to them. This is akin to another story about how when Israel retook Jerusalam, apparently Moshe Dayan said - 'Saladin we are back'



The other part is lie too. First of all Indira Gandhi would have never said anything like that, secondly Islamic rule on India proper only lasted from 500 years ( Delhi Sultanat:1206 - 1526, Mughal Empire: 1526 - 1707 (after Aurangjeb death in 1707 Mughal empire for all practical purpose was over)). Arabs and Afghans rules part of Pakistan for little longer.

Pakis are the most shameless liers on the planet.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Hari Seldon » 21 Dec 2009 09:31

The East Bangal Holocaust museum should have come up in Kolkata with braches in Delhi, Agartala, Guwahati and Siliguri. A thourough documentation of facts, testimonies, photographs, videographs, victims-list engraved, maps with dates, places and bodycount and so on.

And the reactions of 'world leaders' - the Nixons and kissingers included - be placed as a real-life case study in realpolitik.

Let the truth about the TSPA and all their allies - the Jamaat and the razakars in BD included - stand revealed to all with any shred of conscience.

JMTs.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Prem » 21 Dec 2009 10:28

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 21 Dec 2009 10:31

Prem, please, when you quote from sources, use the QUOTE Tags. They are meant for that purpose.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 21 Dec 2009 11:31

Taliban distributing training CDs in Karachi
Taliban courses now at your doorstep

The militants, who were earlier making good use of CDs and DVDs as a means of spreading propaganda, terrorising people and glorifying their victories in the battlefield, have now turned to the same media for training hopeful militants. The CDs provide information regarding physical fitness requirement of a militant, using modern weaponry and developing bombs out of raw material.

These CDs not only focus on providing theoretical guidance, but also display militants in action as they operate different weapons and produce bombs.

Some shots from the battlefield are also included in these CDs, which give the watchers an idea on how they should attack the enemy and then escape from the battlefield.

The training CD, which contains a 54-minute long video, also shows a man developing a suicide jacket and explaining what material to use to make it functional.

Some of the shots included in the CD have been taken from the battlefield of Helmand and some from the attacks on Pakistani security forces. {Allah-o-Akbar. The pious killing the less pious.}

According to sources, the CDs were developed in the country’s tribal areas and then distributed by the militants “through proper channels”.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby asprinzl » 21 Dec 2009 12:18

Doc, isn't it ironic that in the beginning secularism was developed to blunt the spikes of religious fanatism on soceity but these days sacularism has become an instrument to cover-up the spikes of Islamism.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Philip » 21 Dec 2009 12:33

Shiv,great find.I remember how we used to play that song over and over again in our hostel.The pics of the slaughter of '71,especially those of the Bengali intellectuals massacred just before the surender and their bodies dumped in the grounds of a brick kiln factory,remain etched in the memory.I have the cuttings somewhere.

The Hindu's post Nirupama S's on the lone warrior from the Bhutto days,waging alonely battle against the Paki military-establishment cancer,and his views that Pak is finished unless it radically changes course,should be a grim reminder to all of us and our decision makers in Delhi.Irfan Hussein's critical long-distance views of his country need to be added to the growing pile of Paki individuals right in the know of matters who have virtually lost hope for Pak remaining as a viable state.The military and babu elite of Pak have become even more radicalised in Islamist extremism and their track record is always waging war against India whenever they are in trouble.One can expect a maximum redoubling of their efforts to cause as much mayhem in India as they sink beneath the waves,trying to extricate themselves as a vassal state of Uncle Sam and his failing strategy in the region.

Unfortunately US "forked-tongue" chicanery against India,visible in the Headley scandal,has prevented India from taking decisive action against Pak when we were attacked time and time again in the recent past.The video clip of Mrs. G. in '71 is classic example of how India's rulers should think,speak and act.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Rahul M » 21 Dec 2009 12:35

kasthuri wrote:TSP high-commissioner in Devil's Advocate: Ball is in India's court, it must talk: Pak envoy

Karan Thapar: I will accept that argument with one small quote to say judge can't do any of the things when he is not there. The problem is that you have changed judges so often and in changing judges so often delays have been imposed.

Let's come to a more substantive sense in which India believes that Pakistan is in fact dragging its feat. Let's take the example of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD). The United Nations Security Council (UNSC) has put it on the terrorist list and yet even today that organization operates completely freely in Pakistan.

It raises funds, it recruits cadres, it even distribute leaflets on the streets calling upon the people to join Jihad against Kashmir. Why are these things permitted?

Shahid Malik: You are referring to the UNSC-1267. Once that came to affect in the government of Pakistan took immediate steps and proscribed Jamaat-ud-Dawa.

Karan Thapar:
Forgive me. You have not proscribed Jamaat-ud-Dawa.

Shahid Malik: No.

Karan Thapar:
You have not proscribed Jamaat-ud-Dawa?

Shahid Malik: Let me tell you the assets of the operatives of Jamaat-ud-Dawa they were frozen, there was travel ban, restrictions on their movement, there was restriction on their activities.

Karan Thapar: I'm correcting the mistake that you have made when you said you proscribed Jamaat-ud-Dawa. When Hafiz Mohammed Saeed was arrested by you in September in the anti-terror charge for different reasons not just connected to Mumbai, he was released by the Lahore High Court because it was proven in court that the Jamaat-ud-Dawa was not a proscribed and banned organisation. Really you have not banned it.

Shahid Malik: Fair enough. But the fact of the matter is that who ever forms part of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa, the operatives-- there assets have been frozen, their activities have been restricted, all the practical steps that were required to be taken by the government of Pakistan have been taken.

Karan Thapar: I hate to contradict you and embarrass you, High Commissioner.

Shahid Malik: I'm not embarrassed at all. :rotfl: {of course not, lying comes naturally to us.}

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 21 Dec 2009 15:07

What a ridiculous spectacle :roll:

The world’s first ideological Muslim state, one of only two of the worlds Islamic Republics and self proclaimed safe haven for South Asia’s Muslims is now so mired in violence that they cannot protect Muslim places of worship and have to resort to having them ordered shut at night to prevent one group of Muslim’s bent on killing another group of Muslims for belonging to a different Muslim sect, from sheltering there:

Closure of mosques at night ordered

By Syed Irfan Raza
Monday, 21 Dec, 2009

ISLAMABAD: The government on Sunday directed local Ulema to close mosques after Isha prayers to ensure no suspect stayed in them at night.

The decision was conveyed to the Ulema by Interior Minister Rehman Malik after he took part in a rally in the federal capital on Sunday to promote religious harmony during Muharram.

Sources in security departments said the orders would specifically be implemented in Islamabad but it may be followed in other parts of the country by provincial governments.

When contacted, Deputy Commissioner Islamabad Amir Ali Ahmed said Ulema had assured the government that they would keep mosques locked after Isha prayers and reopen them for Fajar prayers.

‘It is feared that suspects can hide in mosques at night and carry out their nefarious designs (terrorism activities) in the day time,’ the official said.

The possibility of any suspect staying in mosques at night has increased especially after the local administration decided to keep a close watch on the clients of hotels, inns and guest houses. ...........................

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