Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 25 Nov 2009 15:08

BijuShet wrote:A very interesting article from "The News". It talks about the power struggle between the Zardari and Gilani groups. Also some tidbits about how outsider ears are tuned into GoTSP and its decision making.

How to clean up the bloody mess-2
Monday, November 23, 2009
News analysis

By Shaheen Sehbai

KARACHI: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and the Asif Zardari-led PPP set-up have reached a dead end on their political highway to nowhere. After the official release of the NRO list, it has become impossible for Gilani to sleep in the same bed with boggy and smutty crocodiles and cockroaches when he was about to quit his lucrative job if just a speck of the NRO dirt had hit his real life partner.

This is how outsiders see it. But those sitting inside the secure PM House have no different view and it is now widely known that the Syed from Multan is no longer prepared to take public or private snubs and insults anymore. .....................


The appearance of the italicised bits from the below article in the first two paragraphs of Shaheen Sehbai’s article suggests that the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has much Takleef with the article you posted:

Wednesday, November 25, 2009

PIO complains to CPNE against newspaper

Staff Report

ISLAMABAD: The government has taken a serious note of the contents of a write-up published in an English newspaper (not Daily Times) and complained about it to the Council of Pakistan Newspapers Editors (CPNE).

The letter, available with Daily Times, pointed out that it was over 15 months now that “all kind of poisonous and baseless conjectures are being made against the person of the president. He is being accused of everything and anything that can be imagined by anybody. This is done by a particular group of newspapers as if all other newspapers have no sense of news. A critical and professional appraisal of today’s adventure of the worthy group editor of the newspaper is offered to ascertain the intentions and mind-set behind it. He starts by pronouncing that ‘Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani and the Asif Zardari-led PPP set-up have reached a dead end on their political highway to nowhere. Isn’t it a judgment of finality on the part of the writer? Then he says that it is now widely known that ‘the Syed from Multan is no longer prepared to take public or private snubs and insults anymore’. .............

Daily Times

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby wamanrao » 25 Nov 2009 15:26

Anujan wrote:It is better that Indian media is ignoring such asswholes and denying them undue popularity and credibility. Zion Hamid is garnering popularity because he is saying things loudly what pakis desperately want to listen.


Cmde Bhaskar ought to choose TV programs to participate with more care. Even inside Bakistan, these chaps (Zion, Ahmed et al) are seen as cranks.

Bharat Verma made the same mistake of appearing on the same program as Zion once. As I recall, Bakis touted it as a "defeat" of the Indian analyst. :rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 25 Nov 2009 16:00

None can separate Islam from Pakistan: Lion-heart Kayani
Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani has said that Pakistan was achieved in the name of Islam and the religion can never be expelled from the country.

Addressing a gathering at Police Line Peshawar here, the COAS said that no one can separate Islam from Pakistan as the country was achieved in its name. He said that Pakistan Army will succeed in its bid to root out extremism from the country in cooperation with the nation and the media.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 25 Nov 2009 16:27

In all the melee, we missed Madam's wonderful article

Madam, of late, is having a bad turn of events. Her Karma, whether she likes it or not, seems to be catching up with her. Her dream run is turning sour and it looks that The Nation may even be shut down. She is being hounded out mercilessly by the Americans. So, let's enjoy while it lasts for a time may come when nobody wishes to publish her articles or entertain her in a TV programme.

now declare that Pakistan is not doing enough on the Mumbai terror attacks issue. This merely hides India's own reluctance - for whatever reason - to provide all the relevant material on the case. So Pakistan has had to proceed without much cooperation from India. Despite this, there has been a surprising degree of transparency from the Pakistani side. But the Indians want Pakistan to arrest and punish suspects without India having to give any concrete proof from its side. Perhaps that would open a Pandora's Box for India. As it is, India is also strangely reluctant to move on the Samjhota Express carnage despite knowing who the guilty are. It is all about keeping a lid on India's Hindu extremists and their links to the political elite. But that lid has been blown open with the inquiry report on the Babri Mosque's demolition, since the report has indicted the leadership of the BJP in the shape of Vajpayee and Advani. It is indeed worrying to know that such extremists have and can again have their finger on the nuclear button in India. Perhaps, it is time for the US and its allies to seriously re-examine their nuclear cooperation with India given how militant religious extremism reaches to the very top of their mainstream political elite. For Pakistan, this should also be an issue to be raised internationally as questions now arise about the safety and security of India's command and control structures which have every chance of falling into extremist hands if the BJP was to have electoral success again. Surely, Manmohan Singh should be particularly concerned about this pathway to nuclear access the Hindu extremists have.
Both Pakistan and India know that the nuclear environment does allow them tactical freedom in that the other side would be loathe to escalate a limited conflict lest it lead to a nuclear exchange. But such adventurism has an inbuilt instability with brinkmanship in a nuclear context being highly volatile.India is therefore deliberately seeking unstable strategic doctrines within a reckless military mindset. This has been apparent in General Kapoor's view
India is in a new muscle-flexing mode which one has not seen since the days of Indira Gandhi. Pakistan would do well to remember what happened when India was allowed, by our ruling elite's own follies, to find the space in what was then East Pakistan to fulfil its hostile agenda towards Pakistan. Let us not allow India the same space again in either Balochistan or FATA - especially now that India has a military-strategic partnership with the US which has a nuclear component also.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nihat » 25 Nov 2009 17:44

Both of the articles posted above are linked in a strange yet obvious way. The first one quoting TSP COAS as saying that Islam is intrinsically intertwined in the history of Pak and cannot ever be separated and the second one by some writer who constantly makes a reference to "hindu extremism" and the threat it poses to the world.

To the Pukes , Islam is their identity , that is how they separate themselves from the billion plus people who live next door in India and their culture. If the Islam element evaporates and TSP takes steps to being a secular nation , it'll most certainly loose it's identity and the national fabric (if there is such a thing) will be torn apart. Which is also the reason they love to highlight problems faced by Indian Muslims and detest it when any Muslim from India makes progress.

On the other hand if they continue with this path of looking everywhere but within , we're in for some good fun wrt TSP in the near future. I for one hope that the radical element in TSP and their general AWAM grows stronger and stronger over a period of time.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 25 Nov 2009 18:16

With charges being framed against Lakhvi and others, we should expect shriller voice for resumption of dialogue.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Ananya » 25 Nov 2009 20:31

charges are useless the mastermind is still at large, the progandam mechinary seems to haver worked atleast from the last tow days here , Pak embassy must have had sleepless nights

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby svinayak » 25 Nov 2009 20:33

http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&c ... vM&topic=h
Pakistan Charges 7 in Mumbai Attacks
Voice of America - Sean Maroney - ‎50 minutes ago‎
Pakistani prosecutors have charged seven men with planning and helping to carry out last year's terror attacks in Mumbai, which killed more than 160 people. "Whatever has been done today is part of the external pressures," an attorney for the ...

Pakistan court charges Mumbai attack suspects

Washington Post - Zeeshan Haider - ‎1 hour ago‎
ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - A Pakistani court indicted seven Pakistani suspects on terror charges on Wednesday in connection with last year's attack on the Indian city of Mumbai, a defense lawyer said. Pakistani security agencies have also ...

India to memorize victims of Mumbai terror attacks on first anniversary

Xinhua - ‎2 hours ago‎
NEW DELHI, Nov. 25 (Xinhua) -- India will hold a series of activities Thursday to commemorate the first anniversary of the Mumbai attacks which killed more than 170 people, reported the Indo-Asian News Service on Wednesday. The events will include a

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Ananya » 25 Nov 2009 20:34

SSridhar wrote:None can separate Islam from Pakistan: Lion-heart Kayani
Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani has said that Pakistan was achieved in the name of Islam and the religion can never be expelled from the country.

Addressing a gathering at Police Line Peshawar here, the COAS said that no one can separate Islam from Pakistan as the country was achieved in its name. He said that Pakistan Army will succeed in its bid to root out extremism from the country in cooperation with the nation and the media.


this must be in responce to what Gen kapoor stated , they have a habit of hinding behing relegion and get scared when somebody sneezes

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SBajwa » 25 Nov 2009 21:09

by Anup Misra
Reflecting on the current events in the land of the pure, I have been humming a parody lately that's kind of gotten stuck in my mind. You know the type when its starts to bother you if you can't complete it? Strangely enough, its sounds similar to the sPooki national anthem (yes, I know. That's haraam). Can some gurulogs on this thread help me complete the next three paragraphs? The first one goes something like this: (Remember, its hummed to the tune of the porki national anthem - you all know how it goes) (Hindi/urdu speakers will find it easy to understand the words below)

Doosrey ki zar zamin zayidaaaaad (key ishq mein)
Kar Diya Hamein Barbaad
Ab, Ghaas kha ke Jee Rahein Hain
Kuch nahin azaad
<Chorus> Pa'astan Paindabaad

[Insert Para Two]
<Chorus> Pa'astan Paindabaad

[Insert Para Three]
<Chorus> Pa'astan Paindabaad

[Insert Para Four]
<Chorus> Pa'astan Paindabaad



Doosrey ki zar zamin zayidaaaaad (key ishq mein)
Kar Diya Hamein Barbaad
Ab, Ghaas kha ke Jee Rahein Hain
Kuch nahin azaad
<Chorus> Pa'astan Paindabaad

Islam ka liya tha hamne Theka
Karke bahut itjehad
Par ab doub rahi nai kashti
Islam ke saath saath

Pakistan Paindabaad!!

Ab Barbadiyaon (GUBO) ka ye alam hai
Aata nahi hai kucch bhi yaad
Kabhi hum bhi turram khan the
ab khare hai karte sahab sahab

Pakistan Paindabaad!!

Islam kar parcham lahraya tha humne
Pakistani parcham ke saath
Par ab sari duniya kar rahi hai
Pakistan Murdabad!!!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby svinayak » 25 Nov 2009 21:16

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... sTyiE0_RQA
"We have more terrorism than India."

"One thing that India must understand is that non-state actors have become very strong and the writ of the state has almost withered away,
" said Tahir Kamran, head of history at Lahore's Government College University.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 25 Nov 2009 21:27

The thinness of the veneer of moderation when it comes to a citizen of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is revealed.

Dr. Shireen Mazari, Editor of the paranoid Pakistani newspaper the Nation, at it again. Clearly the woman’s capacity for hatred of Non Muslims has unhinged her mind.

This time around the News Paper Shireen Mazari edits claims photo journalist Daniel Berehulak of Getty Images is a CIA spy :shock: .

To think this woman headed a Pakistan Government funded think tank for many years :roll: . Speaks volumes about the "moderation" of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Doubling down on playing the spy card

By Bob Dietz/Asia Program Coordinator

Another foreign journalist was “outed" in Pakistan on Friday. A front-page story in the November 20 edition of the daily newspaper The Nation ran the picture of an unidentified journalist at the scene of a bomb blast in Peshawar, identifying him as a CIA spy. He was actually Daniel Berehulak, who works for the international photography agency Getty Images. Hugh Pinney, Getty’s senior director of photography, wrote to the paper’s editor, Shireen Mazari on Saturday, setting the record straight. A PDF of the full letter is here, but here’s what is most likely the most salient part: “He is not an employee of the CIA and has never pursued any agenda other than, as a photographer, to capture important moments and events on camera for historic record.”

This is the second time recently that The Nation has accused a foreign journalist of being a spy, or at least speculated about it in such a way as to make it dangerous for them to work in Pakistan. On November 5, the paper did something similar to The Wall Street Journal’s Matt Rosenberg, accusing him of working for the CIA, Israeli intelligence, and the U.S. military contractor Blackwater (now known as Xe). A letter to Mazari was largely drafted by Islamabad’s foreign correspondent community, which rounded up 21 international news editors to send it to Minister for Information and Broadcasting Qamar Zaman Kaira. There’s a fuller blog entry of mine about that incident here.

Mazari came under some flack from Pakistani journalists about the story, but she defended it, saying the headline—“Journalists as spies in FATA?”—ended in a question mark, meaning it wasn’t a statement of fact, just speculation. The Federally Administered Tribal Areas, or FATA, is the site of the current army offensive against what it calls entrenched Taliban militants and where the U.S. has launched airstrikes from unmanned aircraft.

Wall Street Journal Managing Editor Robert Thomson also wrote to Mazari soon after the Rosenberg article appeared. Thomson said he was disgusted with the story, calling it baseless and false. CPJ wrote about The Nation’s article, too. We called our blog entry “Playing the spy card” because we have seen this tactic used in other places. It poisons the atmosphere for all journalists, no matter who their employer is or where they come from.

The Nation has long positioned itself editorially as the voice of strong Pakistani nationalism, angry about weak and corrupt governance, what it considers an overbearing foreign (largely American) presence in the country, and undue foreign influence in Pakistan’s internal affairs. It’s not an unpopular position in Pakistan—and it’s one that is most likely growing, and one The Nation uses as a guiding editorial principle.

Wantonly accusing foreign journalists of being spies is not new to Pakistan, CPJ has seen it done many times in many place. It’s a nasty trick, but it is usually used by governments, not journalists against other journalists. There’s nothing wrong with a newspaper having an editorial position, as The Nation does, but there is everything wrong when they direct their wrath against professional colleagues.

Committee to Protect Journalists

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby kenop » 25 Nov 2009 21:58

Is Rah-e-Nijat getting scaled down ?
1. thenews.com.pk had one report from yesteday with losses to militants (3)
2. Dawn had last report on 19th Nov. Reported losses to militants
3. Daily Times carried last report on 9th Nov with losses to militants. Today there is a report
"There was a need to limit fighting in South Waziristan and implement a post-operation strategy to isolate militants in FATA, speakers at a Pakistan Institute of National Affairs (PINA) roundtable said on Tuesday."
4. Jang carried last report on 8th Nov
This based on google search.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Ananya » 25 Nov 2009 22:01

that is bcause the vacation is over, money has flowed down, they need to cause more dmages when 30K soilders come down that would be the plan

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby archan » 25 Nov 2009 22:04

If you gents don't mind, the poetry posts will be moved to the LMU campus. There might be more appreciation/participation over there.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Ananya » 25 Nov 2009 22:08

Pakistan court indicts seven over Mumbai attacks: lawyer

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... wyer-ss-09

is this guy in picture not azar and Kandhar.....

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Anujan » 25 Nov 2009 22:21

Bandicoot started a facebook page http://www.facebook.com/pervezmusharraf 8)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby KLNMurthy » 25 Nov 2009 23:43

Here's the jalebi article that the CPJ article was talking about:
Mysterious US nationals

And here's Paki logic of the day, for your enjoyemnt:
According to a source in another investigation agency, the foreigners seemingly belonged to the US spy agency CIA. It was evident from the fact that two police commandos were escorting them, the source added.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby KaranR » 26 Nov 2009 00:12

Ananya wrote:Pakistan court indicts seven over Mumbai attacks: lawyer

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... wyer-ss-09

is this guy in picture not azar and Kandhar.....


These are standard maneuvers of the Pakistanis. Nothing will come out of these arrests. Revolving door! :twisted:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby anupmisra » 26 Nov 2009 00:15

AQ Kha, the humanitarian
Its Timbuktoo time.

Timbuktu — city in the middle of nowhere

Wednesday, November 25, 2009
Dr A Q Khan

During our first trip to Timbuktu in 1998 we saw only one dilapidated hotel.
So, what does he do? He sponsors and fund-raises for another one which feeds 40 families. What a guy!

We found out that a piece of land suitable for building a hotel on would cost about $2,000. Our Dutch friend and travel companion immediately gave him $4,000 and told him to buy two pieces of land. By the time we left we had all decided that we wanted to help, not only Abderhamane, but through him also other families by giving them jobs.


Over a period of two years we collected about $30,000, which was enough to complete the construction.


A grateful Abderhamane named it "Hotel Hendrina Khan," after my wife. This is the very same hotel that many foreign journalists have described as the "ten-million-dollar luxury hotel" supposedly owned by me. None of them bothered to go personally to see for themselves what the real situation was.


Over the past ten years, an industrious and frugal Abderhamane added another 24 rooms. His hotel is now one of the best known. Thirty-five to 40 people work in his hotel, earning livelihood for their families. Moreover, other enterprising individuals have now started running souvenir shops, taxis and pleasure boats.


The following October I received a call from an excited Abderhamane that Prince Karim Aga Khan had stayed at his hotel, toured the city, ordered renovation of the mosques and donated a plane to fly between Bamako and Timbuktu
.

Here's what Tripadvisor says about this wonderful gift to Timbuktoonians.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Ananya » 26 Nov 2009 00:30

this must the place where future polifiration meetings takes place.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Mahendra » 26 Nov 2009 00:37

^^^
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Took me about 20 mins to register and write a review, they now say it will take about 48 hours for it to appear

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Karan Dixit » 26 Nov 2009 04:12

On the eve of the first anniversary of the Mumbai rampage that's blamed on a Pakistan-based extremist group, Manmohan Singh told reporters that President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton assured him they would push Pakistan to act against terrorists who target India.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091125/ap_ ... s_india_28

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby anupmisra » 26 Nov 2009 05:42

I swear I didn't make up this headline: Nation not to be robbed of its rights thr’ farce: Zardari

KARACHI: President Asif Ali Zardari said that none can rob people of their rights just by farcing, Geo News reported Wednesday.
At first I thought he meant "farting". But this one ranks up there with Bush's "strategery".

Addressing a large public gathering on the Foundation Day of Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) here, he said a public leader comes into existence only by having recourse to his people, :rotfl: adding he does not fear any conspiracy and every plot would be braced. :rotfl: In emotionally charged speech the President said said, ‘Our existence is contingent upon the existence of Pakistan, as we are nothing if there is no Pakistan; we want a new Pakistan for the new generation.’


"Even after the martyrdom of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto, I still assert 'Pakistan Khapay'," he added.
I have not idea what "khapay" means but I hope it means something profoundedly pooki. :rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby anupmisra » 26 Nov 2009 05:52

Dus Percenti is on a roll here. Zardari pounces on media
He is destined to go the way of his father-in-law and dearly departed wife.

KARACHI: President Asif Ali Zardari, who is also Co-chairperson Pakistan People’s Party, and some other PPP leaders on Wednesday severely criticised the media during their speeches at a public meeting, held to celebrate the 43rd foundation day of the party. In his speech, the president said when a capitalist establishes his monopoly, he tends to fix his price. Now a certain TV channel has created its monopoly, so it was now demanding “its rate”, but “We have come to power without paying its price and would come again without giving the money”. :roll: Sindh Minister Rafique Engineer said the journalist, who accepts envelopes (a way of taking bribes), supposes that they could terminate any government. He said they value those journalists who side with truth and just causes. Provincial Minister Zahid Bhargari said that Geo TV and Dr Shahid Masood have launched a campaign against the PPP.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby pgbhat » 26 Nov 2009 06:18

'Redefining' the Kashmir issue? ---- Shamshad Ahmad
Musharraf's 'back-channel' hurrahs for out-of-the-box Kashmir solutions have completely denuded Pakistan's principled position on this issue. Our Kashmir policy, since the very beginning of the dispute, has gone through various phases. One constant, however, remained unchanged: our total commitment to the cardinal principle of self-determination enshrined in the UN Charter. No government, elected or unelected, ever deviated from this fundamental policy based on UN Security Council resolutions.

Musharraf's genius strokes evoked no response from India but our principled position on Kashmir, for the first time since independence, stood compromised. Since his ouster last year, the new civilian leadership has done nothing to repair the damage done to our traditional Kashmir position. If anything, it has only showed a lack of "strategic vision" on issues of supreme national importance. The on-going crisis of governance, including the NRO-fuelled political chaos, has left us with no credibility in our external relations.

It is possible that India will not return to the "composite" dialogue in the foreseeable future. It will continue to exploit the international sentiment against global terrorism to keep Pakistan under pressure not only in the context of terrorism but also by fuelling scare and alarm on Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. While Manmohan Singh was playing his favourite symphony, his Defence Minister A.K Antony and Army Chief General Deepak Kapoor made similar noises at a seminar in Delhi perhaps the same day. It was a well-coordinated, though ill-sounding, chorus.

The defence minister was worried about Pakistan's nuclear arsenal's safety, while the Indian army chief spoke of the possibility of a limited nuclear war in South Asia as a reality. What General Kapoor also admitted, perhaps inadvertently, is that South Asia had gradually emerged as one of the epicentres of conflict and instability, and that the situation would "further worsen since there was neither any political or diplomatic unity nor any common ground to build a consensus to fight this new war." He may have spoken an unauthorised truth.


Encouraged by its "strategic" partnership with the US, India managed to gain unprecedented influence in Afghanistan with serious nuisance potential against Pakistan, which it wants to use as its 'instrument of state policy' to 'redefine' the Kashmir issue. It is overly mistaken. Afghanistan is not Kashmir and Kashmir is not Afghanistan. The only parallel between the two is that the people in both Afghanistan and Kashmir have special unflinching historic, cultural and religious bonds with Pakistan that India can never match.

India will serve itself better by not seeking to redefine the unalterable realities of this region, and instead return to the peace process with Pakistan as an equal partner. Peace between the two nuclear-capable neighbours would be in their interest and in the interest of the region, and the world as a factor of stability. It is better for everyone to understand the history and geography of this region and not to impose hegemony or control of any sorts.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Jarita » 26 Nov 2009 07:16

A year after Mumbai Lashkar threat has only grown

http://www.rand.org/commentary/2009/11/25/RAND.html

After the Mumbai attacks, Pakistan cracked down on Lashkar and its above-ground social welfare wing, the Jamaat-ud-Dawa. But as has historically been the case, the crackdown appears to have been aimed at controlling rather than destroying the group.

Most of those detained have been released. While some training camps were closed, others have opened. Lashkar continues to be involved in terrorist plots against Indian and western targets. A number of attempts have been thwarted since the attacks in Mumbai last year. Although the Jamaat-ud-Dawa was barred from raising money and its social welfare apparatus put under nominal state control, during my last visit in May it was openly collecting donations for Lashkar and selling jihadi propaganda.

Why did Lashkar escape serious sanctions?

First, it historically has been Pakistan's most reliable proxy against India and elements within the military clearly wish to maintain this capability. Demobilizing Lashkar is akin to dismantling a weapons system, a step unlikely to be taken absent a fundamental shift in the country's relations with India.

Second, Lashkar does not conduct attacks within Pakistan, and is one of the few militant groups not to do so. One former official in Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI) told me the U.S. expects Pakistan to hit Lashkar to prove it is treating every jihadi group equally—but that all jihadi groups are not equal for his country.

There is also the question of how to dismantle the group. Some Pakistani officials maintain this must be done slowly to avoid a backlash. They also argue the country's capabilities are stretched too thin at the moment. The nightmare scenario they cite involves thousands more militants turning their guns on the state. U.S. officials also must be aware that if Lashkar feels threatened at home, it may increase its terrorist activities against the West.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Ananya » 26 Nov 2009 07:59

http://pkaffairs.com/playshow.asp?pageId=6403

important democracy of the world :rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Rangudu » 26 Nov 2009 09:09

Remember that hoax phone call allegedly from Indian FM threatening war to Zardari after 26/11?

Can you believe this shit?

ISI actually used a jailed terrorist to provoke war!

How pathetic is this?


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Gagan » 26 Nov 2009 09:51

Omar sayeed sheikh continues to do the ISI job from Jail.
So he made that call to Zardari purportedly from Pranab-da threatening dire consequences.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Nayak » 26 Nov 2009 11:19

How come there is a sudden lull/silence in the explosive IED-ology of Terrorist State of Pakistan ? And what about the operations conducted by the Paki army of hijras in NWFP ? No news about the Raha-na-ijjat for the last week or so.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Ananya » 26 Nov 2009 11:24

another of Nucleal war , a limited nuclear war....

http://pkaffairs.com/playshow.asp?pageId=6407

after 20 Mts

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby anishns » 26 Nov 2009 12:05

Not a big fan of him per se but, must say Shekhar Gupta did rip a new one here!
I don't understand why they (Indian experts) even bother agreeing to appear on these bogus, conspiracy laden, degenerate talk shows....can't they politely refuse :evil: :evil:


Ananya wrote:another of Nucleal war , a limited nuclear war....

http://pkaffairs.com/playshow.asp?pageId=6407

after 20 Mts

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby RayC » 26 Nov 2009 12:06

A sombre and unusually grave Singh addressed the media on the morning after the state dinner for him here to announce that he would not be having any talks with the Pakistanis in Port of Spain on the sidelines of the Commonwealth summit this week.

“A bilateral meeting with Pakistani leaders during the Commonwealth heads of government meeting is not planned,” the Prime Minister said.

Although his news conference was to sum up the results of his state visit to the US, the Prime Minister said at the outset that “before I begin my remarks I wish to say a few words on the eve of the first anniversary of the terrorist attack in Mumbai last year on November 26”.

Singh said “this is a day of remembrance and of paying homage to all the innocent civilians and our brave men in uniform who lost their lives in one of the worst terrorist attacks our country has ever seen. We will never forget the suffering they have gone through”.

Firmly squelching any speculation of a revival of the Sharm-el-Sheikh process on the margins of the Commonwealth summit — which is also being attended by the Pakistanis — Singh said, instead, that “the government will not rest till we have brought the perpetrators of this crime to justice”.

Alleging that the masterminds of the Mumbai attack are still “roaming around” in Pakistan, the Prime Minister demanded that they be tried and punished. He would not comment on reports that an anti-terror court in Pakistan today chargesheeted seven accused, including Lashkar-e-Toiba commander Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, in the Mumbai terror plot on the ground that the government had not yet independently verified these reports.
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After butting China over Dalai Lama and Arunachal, this is another indication of growing confidence of the Indian leadership!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby kittoo » 26 Nov 2009 12:12

anupmisra wrote:
"Even after the martyrdom of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto, I still assert 'Pakistan Khapay'," he added.
I have not idea what "khapay" means but I hope it means something profoundedly pooki. :rotfl:


Khapay means 'needed' in Sindhi. But I dont think he meant that.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby durvasa » 26 Nov 2009 13:35

anupmisra wrote:
"Even after the martyrdom of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto, I still assert 'Pakistan Khapay'," he added.
I have not idea what "khapay" means but I hope it means something profoundedly pooki. :rotfl:


It's a case of a little typo. Actual assertion can be any of the following in Punjabi

"pakistan Khotay" or

"Pakistan Marey Khapey" or

"Pakistan ka katey" or

"Pakistan Kuttay"

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby ashish raval » 26 Nov 2009 14:49

kittoo wrote:Khapay means 'needed' in Sindhi. But I dont think he meant that.


Yes Kittoo, it means 'needed" or 'I want' in both Sindhi and Kutchi language.


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