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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby James B » 18 Jan 2010 18:58

From DT Edit

Pakistan is considered one of the most dangerous countries in the world and the epicentre of terrorism. Instead of hiding our heads ostrich-like in the sand, we need to end this policy of supporting our so-called strategic assets. The shelf life of such a policy has ended long ago. :eek: We have to understand that if we unleash militias of fanatical bent, sooner or later they will create trouble for us as well. A continuation of this policy will not only spell trouble for Afghanistan, Pakistan and the region, but the entire world. It is a critical struggle and can only be won by eradicating terrorism from our soil.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby SSridhar » 18 Jan 2010 19:41

The above DT edit made me think. There has been a spate of such edits/opeds in recent times. I think that the policy that the Pakistanis are using nowadays is to accept that Pakistan has been using non-state actors in sponsoring terrorism. The policy is when you can't beat them join 'em. Translating a Tamil proverb, "Once you have become completely wet in the rains, you don't need to cover the head". Pakistan certainly knows that there is no use denying their involvement in terrorism. There is voluminous proof and even the Master and the other 2½ friends will not be condoning Pakistan's behaviour because it has long ago started going beyond just India. So the Pakistanis link it up with their insecurity vis-a-vis India and the compulsion to use any which means to counter a much larger neighbour. This gets the Americans into thinking that the root cause of the problem facing the region, and indeed the world, is the India-Pakistan spat. This serves Pakistan well.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby shiv » 18 Jan 2010 19:55

James B wrote:From DT Edit

Pakistan is considered one of the most dangerous countries in the world and the epicentre of terrorism. Instead of hiding our heads ostrich-like in the sand, we need to end this policy of supporting our so-called strategic assets. The shelf life of such a policy has ended long ago. :eek: We have to understand that if we unleash militias of fanatical bent, sooner or later they will create trouble for us as well. A continuation of this policy will not only spell trouble for Afghanistan, Pakistan and the region, but the entire world. It is a critical struggle and can only be won by eradicating terrorism from our soil.


:rotfl: stung by "Af-Pak" instead of "Indo-Pak" Pakis are now tying to include India in the equation rather than exclude India as they have always done. What a transparent bunch of wannabes.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby Hiten » 18 Jan 2010 20:05

pakistanis these days seem to be trying to repackage themselves, showing to disown their past "convictions"
yet another pakistani trying to do just that
The myth of Ghazwa-tul-Hind
http://blog.ale.com.pk/?p=1124

a .pk TLD make my reading anything from that site a complete no-no for, least the head explode trying to make sense of pakistani logic. Though a quick glance shows that the blagger throws in words like "secular" & "socialist" in between whatever he /she writes

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby Muppalla » 18 Jan 2010 20:49

Jihadization of Pakistan's cricket

However, according to a former Pakistani player, it was Saeed Anwar who convinced Waqar that the team would remain volatile unless team members became ‘good Muslims’ and ‘started offering prayers.’ Waqar saw this as an opportunity to rein in the notorious volatility of the team and both Saeed Ahmed and Anwar were allowed access to the dressing-room to preach the Tableeghi Jamaat’s highly ritualistic and exhibitionistic strain of faith. Mushtaq Ahmed and Saqlain Mushtaq were two early recruits of the Jamaat, but ironically, both, along with Saeed Anwar himself, suddenly lost their form and exited from the team. However, even though the team’s 2002 World Cup jamboree in South Africa was a disaster, Mushtaq and Anwar hung around as preachers and were successful in bagging flamboyant batsman, Inzimamul Haq.

It was Haq’s instatement as the new captain in 2003 that opened the floodgates for the Jamaat. One could now see the team being given regular lectures by leading Jamaat members, including Junaid Jamshed who is on record as claiming that he also wanted to convert the coach, the late Bob Woolmer. Players like Shoaib Akhtar accused Inzimamul Haq for siding with those players who sympathised with the Jamaat and took part in the collective religious rituals enforced by the captain.

These players included Shoaib Malik, Salman Butt, Kamran Akmal, Yasser Hamid, Rana Naveedul Hassan (who at one point is said to have grown a beard to ‘impress’ Inzimam), and most of all, Yousuf Yohanna, who converted to Islam and became Muhammad Yousuf. Today he is one of the leading members of the Jamaat and was recently reported to have even tried to convert New Zealand cricket captain Danial Vetori. Though the bulk of the team joined the Jamaat, thus transforming the team culture from extrovert and flamboyant to fatalistic and (subsequently) somewhat uncompetitive, a divide soon developed when a handful of players refused to follow Inzimam’s Raiwind regime. These were Shoaib Akhtar, Muhammad Asif, Abdul Razzaq and Yunus Khan

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby CRamS » 18 Jan 2010 21:01

SSridhar wrote:The above DT edit made me think. There has been a spate of such edits/opeds in recent times. I think that the policy that the Pakistanis are using nowadays is to accept that Pakistan has been using non-state actors in sponsoring terrorism. The policy is when you can't beat them join 'em. Translating a Tamil proverb, "Once you have become completely wet in the rains, you don't need to cover the head". Pakistan certainly knows that there is no use denying their involvement in terrorism. There is voluminous proof and even the Master and the other 2½ friends will not be condoning Pakistan's behaviour because it has long ago started going beyond just India. So the Pakistanis link it up with their insecurity vis-a-vis India and the compulsion to use any which means to counter a much larger neighbour. This gets the Americans into thinking that the root cause of the problem facing the region, and indeed the world, is the India-Pakistan spat. This serves Pakistan well.


Sridhar, the tragedy is that even after this, if you hear US govt mouthpiece media to get an understanding of what US elites are thinking, it is still India TSP equal equal. See any statemrnt from US, its about "India TSP relations". Matter of fact, TSP has legitimized its use of terror as an instrument of state policy. And even its terrorist shenanigans against Indian efforts to re-build Afganisthan are not countered.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby shiv » 18 Jan 2010 21:22

I was trying to reach an estimate of the size of the Paki middle class. When I researched my e book the best estimate I could find for the size of the "middle class" in Pakistan was 8-12 percent.

Anyhow - lifting from a post I made in the other forum, I will say that TV and motorcycle ownership is an indicator of middle class at least.

So:

Motorcycles:
India 60 million,
Pakistan 3 million (approx) (http://www.cleanairnet.org/caiasia/1412 ... kistan.pdf)

TV sets:
India 60 million
Pakistan 2.8 million

The average family size in India is: 4.7 to 5.3 - I will take 5.3
Average family size in Pakistan is 6.8

That means 60 million Indian bikes (and 60 mil TVs) serve a population of (60x5.3)= 318 million - which should give us the size of the "middle class" in India - i.e about 30 %

Now Pakistan
(2.8 milllion TV sets x 6.8 family size)=19 million (12.6%)
(3 million bikes x 6.8 family size) = 20 million people (13 %)

As per these figures Pakistan has a middle class of 12 to 13 %. India has put two Pakistans more people into "middle class" bracket than Pakistan :mrgreen:

Archive these refs folks - they are difficult to come by..
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby RamaY » 18 Jan 2010 21:30

In lighter vein 8)

^^^ by that count all Talibannis will be graded as wealthy. They have Toyota pickups and ak-72s.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby shiv » 18 Jan 2010 21:43

By extrapolation from my earlier post.

Pakistan has about 1.2 million cars. Multiply by family size 6.8 = 8 milllion (just over 0/5 % very wealthy), 13% middle class and 24% below poverty line (stats from net). That leaves 87% of Pakistanis as "poor" or below poverty line :rotfl:

I wonder how many are black as well? The ultimate insult for a Paki. A black Paki.

(Fixed math errors between guffaws)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby Prem » 18 Jan 2010 23:09

="shiv"]
Philip wrote:Until the Pak nation in its entirety realise that its true roots lie in the ancient heritage of the Indian subcontinent and all that that entails,which requires it to be a true and faithful "brother" to India,remving the hatred in its heart,it is time to batten the hatches,monitor the maritime boundary,elecrtify the fences,sow the land mines and isolate the country as far as possible from the pestilential disease that is Paki terrorism.[/

:rotfl: Now here is a statement that should get Paki langotis in a twist, crushing to powder the piece of brick concealed therein.[/


Paki in Search of Father/s.

http://www.gamequarium.org/cgi-bin/sear ... gi?id=3431

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby ramana » 18 Jan 2010 23:17

In Us there are cultural affinity groups who claim that TPS is part of the extended Mediterranaen cultural/religious group because of their Islam and Alexander's invasion!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby Vipul » 19 Jan 2010 00:44

Shivji,the latest count of Indian household's with a TV set is 125 Million and those with Cable & Satellite coverage is 85-90 Million.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby RamaY » 19 Jan 2010 01:04

I wouldn't group Pakis in normal terms such as ownership of motorbike, TV, etc.,

They deserve a different measurement -

Access to satellite phone (elites), Toyota pickup trucks, AK-47 etc.


Another scale could be their piousness and the lower the piousness the poorer they are.

100% pious = BENIS Dhaga members & LMU brafessaaars :mrgreen:

99.99999% pious = TSPA/ISI/Taliban/AQ/Feudal
80-90% pious = Bureaucrats/Police/Students/Middle-class Mohatormas
50-75% pious = Ordinary Abduls who burn YYY flags and KFCs

5-49% pious = Ordinary Abduls who are daily laborers and cannot even think of anything other than earning their next meal for next 18,350 years.

0 -5% pious = WKK brigade on our side of the border :evil:

I propose to create a Indian secured safe-haven for the 5-49% pious category between Indian borders and Sindhu River and put them under the supervision of 100% pious abdullahs. Send the rest (including 0-5% pious) to Pakhtuntva.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby Gagan » 19 Jan 2010 01:39

Err,
You forgot that there are 400% pious and 400% non pious as per BENIS standards:

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?p=803186#p803186

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby Rahul M » 19 Jan 2010 01:40

an aussie blog post. the author has a decent handle on TSP-India-PRC affairs.

http://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2009/12/ ... f-bad.html

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby a_kumar » 19 Jan 2010 01:50

shiv wrote:If Pakistan fails, a lot of companies will lose a huge chunk of business. So Pakistan will not be allowed to fail. Not just by the west, but by Indian industry which is also making money directly or indirectly.


On a similar note, I was glad when PA was dithering to allow Indian movies.

Since the Indians are the existing market, movie houses will have little incentive to be patriotic or maintain nation's interests. However, with Pakistan becoming an emerging market, if allowed, movie houses would jostle to make their movies more appealing to Pakistani audience, aka, mini-WKK.

Infact, to some extent Butt's convenient-patriotism is probably motivated by the same! And there will be more when money starts flowing.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby putnanja » 19 Jan 2010 01:56

Nirupama Rao’s remarks ‘vitriolic,’ says Pakistan

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Monday described Indian Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao’s remarks in a television interview as “vitriolic” and damaging to the prospects of peace between the two countries.

The Foreign Ministry said in a release that the remarks showed that New Delhi was persisting with a propaganda campaign against Pakistan “that only vitiates the atmosphere, darkens the horizon and dampens hopes for peace and tranquility in South Asia.”

The release said Pakistan “firmly rejects the assertions of state-sponsored terrorism and invites India to a deep introspection of its own policies and conduct, notably in Jammu and Kashmir as elsewhere.”

The Foreign Ministry said that while India “sadly remains out of tune with the realities of today,” Pakistan was “committed to a vision for peace and prosperity” in the region.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby ramana » 19 Jan 2010 02:12

First Gen Deepak Kapoor's remarks. Now its Mrs Nirupama Rao's remarks. :eek:

Soon they will say any remark by any leader unless its WKK bleats.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby pgbhat » 19 Jan 2010 02:41

:rotfl: As per Bakis
No Talks == Yindu extremist.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby ramana » 19 Jan 2010 02:47

pgbhat wrote::rotfl: As per Bakis
No Talks == Yindu extremist.


or per WKK/Seculars

No Talks == Indic!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby sanjaykumar » 19 Jan 2010 03:03

If Pakistan fails, a lot of companies will lose a huge chunk of business. So Pakistan will not be allowed to fail. Not just by the west, but by Indian industry which is also making money directly or indirectly.


Does this premise withstand economic scrutiny? Does economic activity disappear if West India is called Pakistan or Loserville?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby James B » 19 Jan 2010 03:38

Pak-US: prospects and prognosis —Shahzad Chaudhry

The war against al Qaeda has practically already shifted out to Yemen. There are only a few remnant interests for the US now in this region as far as the war on terror goes(celebrating too early?)

The baggage: Pakistan carries two negatives from the past at the international plane. The AQ Khan episode is difficult to explain at that level and continues to sully every sincere effort by Pakistan to play its part as a responsible nuclear-capable state. This eats at the roots of the construct that Pakistan has carefully evolved to make itself relevant in the global and regional hierarchy of nations. Competitor nations such as India play on the incredulity of Pakistan’s position on this deviation away from the formal and informal set of behavioural and conformance standards that are used so often to validate a nation’s power base and its contextual relevance.(balderdash)

The second negative is arguably the use of non-state elements as a proxy capability to force a change in the context of intractable regional issues; on such issues we may be morally and politically correct :eek: :shock:, but the manner of their emphasis and the use of proxy ploys to achieve our aims falls far short of both moral and legal credibility. :eek: :shock: (self-contradictory statement) Pakistan must therefore carry the disadvantage of being judged in the light of such historical experience and any argument in support of such issues of importance stands significantly compromised.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby Guddu » 19 Jan 2010 03:48

RamaY wrote:In lighter vein 8)

^^^ by that count all Talibannis will be graded as wealthy. They have Toyota pickups and ak-72s.


Strat reported, Jan 15:
Foreign investment in Pakistan saw a drop of 40.6 percent to $1.284 billion during July-December 2009, Dow Jones reported Jan. 15, citing the State Bank of Pakistan. During July-December 2009, direct foreign investment dropped more than 50 percent to $1.01 billion when compared to $2.35 billion during the same period in 2008.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby James B » 19 Jan 2010 03:52

The P Word
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Article on the origins and usage of Paki word.

And in July last year, white supremacist Neil Lewington was convicted of preparing for acts of terrorism, and was widely quoted as saying, ‘the only good Paki is a dead Paki.’ :rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby Rupesh » 19 Jan 2010 03:57

Nationalists want Sindh’s control over its resources

National Party leader Jan Mohammad Buledi accused the government of using torture to suppress their peaceful struggle for provincial autonomy and democracy. Rejecting the Balochistan package, he said that they wanted the right of ownership over their natural resources.

Resolutions adopted on the occasion demanded recognition of Pakistan as a multi-nation state; autonomy for Sindhis, Baloch, Seraiki, Pakhtoon and Punjabis and declaration of Sindhi, Balochi, Seraiki, Pushto and Punjabi as national languages.

They urged the government to accept the right of ownership of Sindhis over their natural resources and the income of the province.

They demanded that influx of “outsiders” in Sindh from other provinces and countries be stopped and the right to purchase property and vote given to those who had settled in Sindh after 1954 be withdrawn. ( Will the Mohajirs be packed of to pakjab ? )
They also demanded Sindh’s share of water according to 1945 accord and scrapping of Kalabagh dam, Greater Thall Canal and other projects over the Indus.

They urged the government to stop selling land in Sindh to national and international companies in the name of corporate farming and to recover land given to army officers, bureaucrats and “outsiders” and distribute it among the landless Sindhi haris.

They urged moderate and democratic forces of Pakistan and of the world to help Sindhis in their struggle for their legitimate rights.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby anishns » 19 Jan 2010 04:54

Rlys pay Rs 22.5 lakh to Pak dad who lost 5 kids in Samjhauta blast :evil:


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Rlys-pay-Rs-225-lakh-to-Pak-dad-who-lost-5-kids-in-Samjhauta-blast/articleshow/5474612.cms


Now how about the pakis paying compensation to all Indians who suffered losses on 26/11!!!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby negi » 19 Jan 2010 05:17

IR always pays some amount as compensation to the family of injured/deceased and they do it irrespective of nationality of the customer/traveler. I don't know about the amount but afaik this measure is a norm.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby Dipanker » 19 Jan 2010 05:28

anishns wrote:Rlys pay Rs 22.5 lakh to Pak dad who lost 5 kids in Samjhauta blast :evil:


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Rlys-pay-Rs-225-lakh-to-Pak-dad-who-lost-5-kids-in-Samjhauta-blast/articleshow/5474612.cms


Now how about the pakis paying compensation to all Indians who suffered losses on 26/11!!!


You are making it sound like this is a quid-pro-quo case but it is not.

Paki terrorists/sponsors were behind Samjhuta Express bombing and have been named in UN terroists list for that.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby Prem » 19 Jan 2010 05:54

Man was right, Logic for Paki is YYY conspiracy.
http://tiny.cc/LahoriLogic
US’s India tilt

Pakistan is particularly wary of this situation since this could mean a strategic imbalance in the region. Pakistan thus fears finding itself in a nutcracker situation, in which it is sandwiched by an intransigent neighbour to the east, and a perceived pro-India Afghan regime to the west. It is this perception that has led Pakistan to oppose India’s participation in any regional peace initiative, the fresh example of which is the forthcoming London Summit on Afghanistan.India and Pakistan have so many unresolved bilateral contentions that they drown out all other issues, thus eliminating any possibility of an effective partnership for regional peace. Even if we concede that India-Pakistan bilateral relations should be improved, it is impeded by the fact that India is not satisfied by Islamabad’s efforts to clamp down on terrorism after Mumbai’s 26/11. This intransigence has also been true in the past. Delhi kept dilly-dallying on proposals for the resolution of the Kashmir issue proffered by Musharraf and cold-shouldered the olive branch held out by President Asif Ali Zardari after he took oath as president. Delhi’s insistence on firm action against jihadis operating from Pakistan’s soil as a precondition for talks has led to a freeze in relations. Therefore, one cannot have high hopes about easing of India-Pakistan tensions from the present tour of high US officials, although it might play a useful role in the fight against extremism.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby shiv » 19 Jan 2010 06:33

a_kumar wrote:On a similar note, I was glad when PA was dithering to allow Indian movies.

Since the Indians are the existing market, movie houses will have little incentive to be patriotic or maintain nation's interests. However, with Pakistan becoming an emerging market, if allowed, movie houses would jostle to make their movies more appealing to Pakistani audience, aka, mini-WKK.

Infact, to some extent Butt's convenient-patriotism is probably motivated by the same! And there will be more when money starts flowing.


Bollywood's connection with Pakistan seems complex. One eye is always on the cash tills and what Pakistan may fetch, and I am sure a certain number of movies are being funded by Dawoodbhai. OTOH there the patriots as well.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby arun » 19 Jan 2010 06:47

arun wrote:Complete transcript of the interview of our Foreign Secretary Ms. Nirupama Rao by Karan Thapar for the CNN/IBN programme, Devil's Advocate.

Plenty on the Islamic Republic of Pakistan

Covers issues like the support of jihadi Islamic terrorism targeting India by the Islamic Republic, potential use of the threat of disruption of US supply lines into Afghanistan by the Islamic Republic to coerce US support of its revisionist aims in Jammu & Kashmir, likelihood of resumption of the composite dialogue process between us and the Islamic Republic etc:

CNN – IBN


While there has been a debate here on BRF that has had some charcterising Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao’s comment as inadequate and meek and some others contending that the comments were adequate and robust enough, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has a completely different third take:

putnanja wrote:Nirupama Rao’s remarks ‘vitriolic,’ says Pakistan

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Monday described Indian Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao’s remarks in a television interview as “vitriolic” and damaging to the prospects of peace between the two countries.

The Foreign Ministry said in a release that the remarks showed that New Delhi was persisting with a propaganda campaign against Pakistan “that only vitiates the atmosphere, darkens the horizon and dampens hopes for peace and tranquility in South Asia.”

The release said Pakistan “firmly rejects the assertions of state-sponsored terrorism and invites India to a deep introspection of its own policies and conduct, notably in Jammu and Kashmir as elsewhere.”

The Foreign Ministry said that while India “sadly remains out of tune with the realities of today,” Pakistan was “committed to a vision for peace and prosperity” in the region.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby Jarita » 19 Jan 2010 06:53

^^^^ Upon watching the video - she is very very direct. As direct as a rep. of a democracy can be.
Why do people feel she is inadequate? One would not want her frothing in the mouth like the fools across the border.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby shiv » 19 Jan 2010 07:36

arun wrote:While there has been a debate here on BRF that has had some charcterising Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao’s comment as inadequate and meek and some others contending that the comments were adequate and robust enough, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has a completely different third take:



Well the Paki comments could have been more robust too I guess:
vitiates the atmosphere, darkens the horizon and dampens hopes for peace


How about, "Browns our pants, wets our chaddis and further degrades the honor and dingity of the Islaamic Republic of Paa'staan"

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby Karna_A » 19 Jan 2010 07:41

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... stan-hs-10

Best way to govern Pak initially would be like Hong Kong. One nation and two systems. One nation, two cricket teams. Pashtunistan may be better off as a separate country. Rest of country can be quickly brought up to Indian level by using defence budget for improving the water, electricity, schools, and Hospital situation.

One such scenario has the Canadian military preparing a contingency plan to contain street battles in the provinces of British Columbia and Ontario whose cities are predicted to be in flames — courtesy of the conflict scenario that has Canadians of Pakistani and Indian descent at each other’s throats (Toronto Star, Oct 17, 2009).
The Canadian military planners expect that Pakistan will collapse by 2016, and the territory will be occupied by India. Sound bizarre? Not so to the security analysts in Ottawa.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby Dipanker » 19 Jan 2010 07:47



She said it was true that in the past, many Pakistanis went to Afghanistan with the nod of some institutions. She said it should be understood that the Afghan war was over and there was no harm in making efforts to bring the detained Pakistanis back, most of whom had gone there with the consent of the institutions.


What institutions she is talking about? State Institutions or Non-State Institutions or more appropriately State Terrorist Institutions or Non-State Terrorist Institutions?

By the way shouldn't the Non-State Terrorist Actors be more accurately called Quasi-State or Semi-State Terrorist Actors as they are nurtured and supported by the State Terrorist Institutions?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby shiv » 19 Jan 2010 07:59

pgbhat wrote::rotfl: As per Bakis
No Talks == Yindu extremist.


Not to forget -"An attack on Pakistan is an attack on Islaam"

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... stan-hs-10

Beyond the internal dimension, external forces are imposing other indignities. One such xenophobic measure on which an edict was passed almost immediately following the failed bombing attempt over Detroit concerns travellers to the US from Pakistan and 13 other states. Respectable people from these ‘bad’ lands, seen as ‘people of interest’ from ‘terror-linked’ states, will now be singled out for additional scrutiny and invasive security checks.

In addressing the consequences of the Christmas Day event, Obama missed an opportunity to mend fences with Muslims around the world by taking a fresh approach. Instead, he chose to take an old page from Bush and the neoconservative’s white book of militarism.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby pgbhat » 19 Jan 2010 08:03

^
What bakis do best :mrgreen: . When being criticized they do their best to obfuscate and fudge issues and jump into "muslim" camp and claim victimhood :(( . When they want goodies they jump into kufr camp and try to do == . :lol:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby shiv » 19 Jan 2010 08:24

pgbhat wrote:^
What bakis do best :mrgreen: . When being criticized they do their best to obfuscate and fudge issues and jump into "muslim" camp and claim victimhood :(( . When they want goodies they jump into kufr camp and try to do == . :lol:


And the former is called "deen" and the latter "taqiyya". GUBO is kufr though.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

Postby RamaY » 19 Jan 2010 09:13

The Canadian military planners expect that Pakistan will collapse by 2016, and the territory will be occupied by India. Sound bizarre? Not so to the security analysts in Ottawa.

:rotfl:

Did they also talk about tens of millions of oppressed pakis migrating to Canada?


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