Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

archan · Post by **archan** » 30 Dec 2009 18:43

Last page of previous thread.
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... start=2840
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The following links are background articles on Pakistan.

UNDERSTANDING PAKISTAN:

Jinnah's Pakistan: An Interview with MA Jinnah, and how the Pakistan of Yesterday is the Pakistan of Today
http://iref.homestead.com/Messiah.html

http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/_files/012809Tellis.pdf

The above is the testimony of Ashley Tellis on Jan 28th 2009, to the US Senate Homeland Security Committee on LeT's global role. It is a good articulation of LeT's past and future trends.

Know Your Pakistan
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... /Shiv.html

The Monkey Trap: A synopsis of Indo-Pak relations
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... ayyam.html

PAKISTAN-FAILED STATE: an ebook that owes its origin and existence to BRF.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/EBOOKS/pfs.pdf

A landmark article that demolishes myths built up about Pakistan
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers8/paper710.html

Pakistani Role in Terrorism Against the U.S.A
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... yanan.html

Pakistani Education, or how Pakistan became what it is: Curricula and textbooks in Pakistan
http://www.sdpi.org/archive/nayyar_report.htm

Making Enemies, Creating Conflict: Pakistan's Crises of State and Society. A book written by Pakistanis on Pakistan.
http://members.tripod.com/~no_nukes_sa/Contents.html

Should Pakistan Be Broken Up? by Gul Agha
http://pakistan70.tripod.com/gul.html

Alden Pyle in Pakistan, Part I
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2009/12/ald ... art-1.html

PAKISTAN & TERRORISM:

The Ideologies of South Asian Jihadi Groups (Laskar-e-Taiba)
By Hussein Haqqani (journalist and Pak ambassador to US)
http://www.futureofmuslimworld.com/rese ... detail.asp

Pakistani sponsoring of Terrorism
http://www.geocities.com/charcha_2000/
http://pak-terror.freeservers.com/Terro ... y_Tool.htm

Terror Map: The Pakistani Hand
http://sify.com/news/specials/terrormap/?vsv=TopHP1

Ethnic cleansing in Pakistan - a statistical analysis
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... idhar.html

A chronicle of genocide by the Pakistan army
http://www.gendercide.org/case_bangladesh.html

Documentary video evidence of Pakistani genocide in Bangladesh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x-94U1bVUQ
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EBKlIUbpc ... re=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sMg9Ly9nK0g
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xwwPbkyZV ... re=related

Inside Jihad - How Pakistan sponsors terrorists in India
http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/ ... r_sb1.html

Pakistan's Role in the Kashmir Insurgency - Op-ed by Rand's Peter Chalk
http://www.rand.org/hot/op-eds/090101JIR.html

Alden Pyle in Pakistan, Part II
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2009/12/ald ... -upon.html

PAKISTAN TODAY:

On the Frontier of Apocalypse: Christopher Hitchens seminal article on Pakistan today
http://newsstuff.0catch.com/article5.htm

http://meaindia.nic.in/bestoftheweb/2002/10/14bow2.htm

A Slender Reed in Pakistan - Editorial in the Christian Science Monitor
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1229/p08s03-comv.html

Seymour Hersh Interview
http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_hersh.html

Pakistan's Nuclear Crimes (Wash. Post editorial)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dy ... 2-2004Feb4

http://www.indiadefence.com/LOA07Aug04.htm

BOOK REVIEW Fulcrum of Evil: ISI-CIA-Al Qaeda Nexus
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/%5Cpap ... r1844.html

Article from Vinni Capelli - Foreign Policy Research Institute:
Containing Pakistan: Engaging the Raja-Mandala in South-Central Asia
http://www.fpri.org/orbis/5101/cappelli ... kistan.pdf

The videos are from this documentary: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/taliban/

A bomb at all cost By Ahmad Faruqui - a candid admission of the wars that Pakistan started against India.

Popular support for suicide bombings in pakistan.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 008_pg12_1
Survey by university students in karachi say 50% of respondents support suicide bombings in kashmir.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OWsmJIwe9Q4
"Descent into Chaos"
UC Berkeley Conversations with History, host Harry Kreisler talking with Pakistani Journalist Ahmed Rashid. 59 minutes 120 MB. It sums up Pakistan and lays bare all Pakistan's terrorist support and proliferation activities. **Note - he wants the US to solve Pakistan's Kashmir problem.

Pakistan on the brink: Video Link (must download)

Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto telling Bangladeshis to "Go to Hell": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dsxfyxa ... re=related

IDSA's weekly summary of Pak Urdu Press:

http://www.idsa.in/pup
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Five installment series by Kapil Komireddi published in Frum Forum

Part I. Nov 16, 2009. “Pakistan In Crisis”.

Part II. Nov 18. 2009. “Pakistan: Origins of A Failed State”.

Part III. Nov 18, 2009. “Pakistan: It Could Not Succeed Unless India Failed”.

Part IV. Dec 06, 2009. “Pakistan: A Mecca for Radical Islam”.

Part V. Dec. 07, 2009. “Pakistan’s Army: Building a Nation for Jihad”
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Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 30 Dec 2009 18:57

SSridhar wrote:
sum wrote:I always assumed Seraikis as "moderates" etc. Is this a myth like the "No sufi can be terrorist" funda?
sum, as Ramana very correctly points out, look at the places : Sargodha, Multan, DG Khan, Rahim Yar Khan, Rajanpur, Jhang, and Bahawalpur divisions of South Punjab which constitute Seraikistan.

These are mostly in South Punjab - the impoverished terror hub of Pakistan.

vishal · Post by **vishal** » 30 Dec 2009 19:52

Balochistan gets screwed again

Extract: Under the award population will be given 82 per cent weightage, poverty 10.3 per cent, revenue collection five per cent (2.5 per cent revenue generation, 2.5 per cent revenue collection) and area 2.7 per cent.

vishal · Post by **vishal** » 30 Dec 2009 19:53

Shouldn't the 'Dispatch from Bharat' posts be shifted to either the'Bojitiv Newj' thread or into a new one? IMHO, it kind of takes this thread way OT.

AnimeshP · Post by **AnimeshP** » 30 Dec 2009 19:58

vishal wrote:Shouldn't the 'Dispatch from Bharat' posts be shifted to either the'Bojitiv Newj' thread or into a new one? IMHO, it kind of takes this thread way OT.

I second that ...

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 30 Dec 2009 20:02

Regarding the August 13 article
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=23850

regarding the alleged deaths

Asmatullah Shaheen Bhittani is affiliated with Baitullah Mehsud and was declared dead along with two other important commanders, Maulana Waliur Rahman and Hakimullah Mehsud, by his rival Turkistan Bhittani in a clash between Taliban fighters after Baitullah’s mysterious death in a US drone attack.

see this:
http://www.criticalthreats.org/pakistan ... d-analysis

Some of those declared ‘dead’ by Turkistan have since made contact with media, debunking Turkistan’s claims[69]

[69]Wali-ur-Rehman and Hakimullah called Reuters and AP reporters ‘familiar with their voices’ to refute claims they were killed. It is difficult to verify whether or not those calling were actually who they claimed to be.

“Pakistan Taliban Commander Says He, Mehsud Alive”, Reuters, August 10, 2009.
Available at http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/08/ ... ander.html
{note: NYTimes URL is defunct}

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 30 Dec 2009 22:22

vishal wrote:Paki news reports state Karach. attack caused damage of Paki Rs. 30 billion which = USD 354m. By contrast, the 26/11 attack payout was ~USD 100m & that was a MUCH BIGGER attack. Madarasa math at work or am I missing something?

The damage is mostly from the riots following the attack. We didn't have that in India after 26/11.

archan · Post by **archan** » 30 Dec 2009 22:26

AnimeshP wrote:
vishal wrote:Shouldn't the 'Dispatch from Bharat' posts be shifted to either the'Bojitiv Newj' thread or into a new one? IMHO, it kind of takes this thread way OT.
I second that ...

Okay then, rsingh ji pindi waale, please to go inside LMU with your memoirs..

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 30 Dec 2009 22:48

Admin janab why sending me go LMU dhaga. Just because I a baki? Hein! Have you thought what those bazooka triger happy mullah will do with me for not using halal piglish?Do you want to see me hanging from lamppost in green chowk next juma?Please give me a disposable dhaga for one week at least. Salam

archan · Post by **archan** » 30 Dec 2009 22:57

rsingh wrote:Admin janab why sending me go LMU dhaga. Just because I a baki? Hein! Have you thought what those bazooka triger happy mullah will do with me for not using halal piglish?Do you want to see me hanging from lamppost in green chowk next juma?Please give me a disposable dhaga for one week at least. Salam

Quit whining and take your musharraf here

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 30 Dec 2009 23:06

Some military analysis by the pakistani Nation newspaper: Mulaheza Farmaiye
Indian Military ready for war against China, Pakistan

India Army ready for war against China, Pakistan
Shimla-based Indian Army Training Command, headed by Lt-General A S Lamba is getting ready for something Indian Military never was ready before. Indian Air Force, Navy, and Army is ready to face Pakistan and China at the same time.
India's 1.13-million strong Military is now panning to handle two major war fronts at the same time. India considers Pakistan and China as part of the same camp. India knows the next war will be between India and Pakistan+China. India will get indirect support from America and Russia, but Indian Military will have to fight the two war at the same time.

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China has used Pakistan for a long time to keep India busy. Now time has come for India to recognize a massive threat from China and Pakistan at the same time.
Indian Army chief General Deepak Kapoor emphasizes that India is ready for the successful firming-up of the cold start strategy (to be able to go to war promptly) in the multiple fronts against multiple different militias at the same time.
The plan is a full thrust assault into multiple anomies at the same time with massive Air Force superiority. If attacked by Pakistan and china at the same time, India will launch self-contained and highly-mobile `battle groups'', with Russian-origin T-90S tanks and upgraded T-72 M1 tanks at their core, adequately backed by far superior air cover and artillery fire assaults, for rapid thrusts into enemy territory within 96 hours.

India plans to end the war decisively within the first 96 hours forcing the other sides into a fast submission of ceasefire.

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The real war in that scenario will be between India and China while Pakistan will be used by China to create adequate disturbance for Indian Military.
That is the reason why Lt-General A S Lamba of Indian Army is so keen a massive thrust into Rawalpindi to quiet Pakistanis within 48 hours of the start of assault.
India's biggest advantage is the its software capabilities in integrating signal intelligence with ground intelligence. India will use algorithmic seek and scan technology to counter the Chinese threats in the North and possible Pakistani nuclear threat in the West.

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(India Daily)

Read it in full. This has been lifted off Indian Daily it seems.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 30 Dec 2009 23:13

The original TOI article is here:
Army reworks war doctrine for Pakistan, China

shynee · Post by **shynee** » 30 Dec 2009 23:55

Pictures – Bomb Blast at MA Jinnah road on Ashura

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 31 Dec 2009 01:16

I am actually amazed, surprised and more importantly shocked to know the Indian Security establishment has not worked out doctrinal measures to simultaneously 'War scenario' a combined China-Pakistan thrust.

Heads must roll and pensions chopped off people who failed to do so. Specially since the Kissinger-Mao talks have been open source for so much time now. This is callousness on us our security. Time forums like BRF spread strategic awareness amongst the 'drawing room' chateretti in the middle dumb classes of India.

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shravan · Post by **shravan** » 31 Dec 2009 01:19

Only Saudis fulfilled pledge of $200m, says Tareen

KARACHI: Federal Finance Minister Shaukat Tareen deplored the failure of Friends of Democratic Pakistan (FoDP) to honour their pledges as so far no substantial inflow came from that forum.

“It is nice about talking to help Pakistan, however when it comes to give Pakistan the funds pledged in the meetings, the situation looks quite contrary,” Tareen told newsmen on Tuesday at the sidelines of a seminar.

He was particularly dejected about the role of USA to help Pakistan financially and release the amount committed at the FoDP forums. “USA people meet us and discuss only one thing or the other rather than to materialise their commitments,” the finance minister regretted.

Tareen even went on to say that attitude of USA with Pakistan is disgusting and they consider us untouchable.

The minister said that only Saudi Arabia has released $200 million amount to Pakistan pledged at FoDP.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 31 Dec 2009 01:23

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vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 31 Dec 2009 01:40

Pak police arrests 'suicide bomber planning attack at Wagah'
http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/dec/ ... -wagah.htm

Ahmad, who did not disclose identities of the two arrested men, said the duo was planning to carry out a suicide attack at the Wagah land border post with Amritsar

Close miss for Wagha candle kissers. Who would light candle for them? Pakis know how take care of their own little terrorist helpers in India...

Sanjay M · Post by **Sanjay M** » 31 Dec 2009 01:41

Pak police arrests 'suicide bomber planning attack at Wagah'

You mean they saved the candle-wavers from being blown up? How noble of them

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 Dec 2009 01:49

Shias are not fooled by PA Suicide story,

It wasn't a suicide attack: Shia Ulema
KARACHI : Shia clerics on Tuesday rejected government claim that Monday's blast on the Ashura procession was a suicidal attack, saying that it was instead a "planted" bomb blast. At the funeral prayer of at least 10 victims of the blast on Tuesday they said that Azadars would not limit the scheduled Muharram processions, and added that the Interior Minister, instead of advising the mourners to limit their activities, should ensure their security.

Addressing over a hundreds thousand people, who gathered at the funeral prayer of some of those who had lost lives on Monday's blast, the ulema said that the government had failed to provide security to the mourners. Rejecting the allegation that the enraged mourners were involved in the aftermath of the incident, Allama Yousuf Hussain said that no Azadar was not involved, and they rather were proceeding with the procession peacefully.

http://www.thepakistaninewspaper.com/ne ... p?id=15565

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 31 Dec 2009 02:09

acid attacks on women in pakistan and the inability of GoTSP in getting these women justice.

http://video.nytimes.com/video/2008/11/ ... tacks.html

KrishG · Post by **KrishG** » 31 Dec 2009 02:45

We were going to break Pakistan, Zulfiqar Mirza

http://www.daily.pk/we-were-going-to-br ... rza-13576/

Sindh Home Minister Dr. Zulfiqar Mirza has said we were ready to break Pakistan and were much more determined to chant slogan of ‘Pakistan Na Khapay’ – No need of Pakistan, following assassination of former PM Benazir Bhutto but we deliberately opted otherwise just because of President Asif Ali Zardari suggestion ‘Pakistan Khapay’.

Is there any popular public support on this issue in Sindh ? But this coming from the home minister of Sindh truly shows the position that Pakistan has been reduced to in the minds of it's own people. And the statement might generally be aimed at people trying to get Zardari out of office.

R_Kumar · Post by **R_Kumar** » 31 Dec 2009 03:39

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Vivek K · Post by **Vivek K** » 31 Dec 2009 04:02

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Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 31 Dec 2009 04:03

Keep the Paki thread Paki, please.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 31 Dec 2009 04:06

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Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 31 Dec 2009 04:13

Does anyone have percentage of Shia population per province in TSP. A map with shia areas shaded will be great. TIA

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 31 Dec 2009 05:01

Muppalla wrote:... A map with shia areas shaded...

Muppalla, pls see this link: Religion in Pakistan (Columbia University)

You will like this one also: Ethnic Groups in Pakistan (Columbia University)

And this one: Languages in Pakistan (Columbia University)

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 31 Dec 2009 05:10

Rahul Shukla wrote:
Muppalla wrote:... A map with shia areas shaded...
Muppalla, pls see this link: Religion in Pakistan (Columbia University)

You will like this one also: Ethnic Groups in Pakistan (Columbia University)

And this one: Languages in Pakistan (Columbia University)

Thanks a bunch. I appreciate it.

archan · Post by **archan** » 31 Dec 2009 05:31

Harbans, what is your problem? what is this shameful attempt to derail the thread? this forum needs some responsible users. If you cannot maintain thread discipline after all these years on the forum, I am afraid I don't foresee you here for a long time.

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 31 Dec 2009 06:12

Anyone up for buying real estate in Pakistan.
Four cities to be made ‘Safe City’

Thursday, December 31, 2009 - Islamabad
The Interior Ministry has initiated a project titled ‘Safe City’ to strengthen security of Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Karachi and Lahore.

The Chinese government would provide financial assistance for the project and a special committee is working on the feasibility and the PC-1 of the project.

Under the project, various measures would be taken to strengthen the security of these cities and to make them more safe, Interior Ministry sources said here on Wednesday.

Elaborating the title ‘Safe City’, the sources said that these cities would be free from any kind of criminal activities as well as terrorist threats.

Initially, the project would be launched in the four cities, which would subsequently be extended to all the provincial capitals and other major cities.
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BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 31 Dec 2009 06:20

Here is a shining example of a progressive TSP.
Graduation ceremony held

Thursday, December 31, 2009
Our correspondent

Islamabad
As many as 31 students were awarded certificates in graduation ceremony of the 27th batch of the Pakistan Air Force Finishing School, Islamabad, held on Wednesday at Air Headquarters Officers Mess.

The PAF Finishing School was established in July 1996 for female students. It offers various courses in communication skills, languages, management, art of self-presentation, domestic sciences, general culture, cuisine, protocol, art, childcare, introduction to psychology and spiritual enrichment.

On the occasion Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman awarded certificates to the students. ...

Suleman said that it was however equally essential, more so for our daughters, to develop in them a dignified poise reflecting the aspiration of a Pakistani girl. “The complexities of life are numerous, and to cope with them, it is necessary to benefit from a specialized institution like the Finishing school,” he said while adding that such institutions were the essential adjuncts to nurture the mental and moral faculties of our younger generation.
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PAF Finishing School, which is the first of its kind in Asia, is a step of Pakistan Air Force towards the promotion of education and eradication of illiteracy in the country.

Main aspects of the training are aimed at providing quality training to young girls to make them useful members of the society.
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BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 31 Dec 2009 06:28

Did Ummah brothers stop supplying discounted oil to TSP?
Pepco shortfall reaches 3,983 MW

Thursday, December 31, 2009
By Umer Bhatti
LAHORE
THE Pakistan Electric Power Company’s total generation 16,316 MW has come down to 8,582 MW, creating a shortfall of 3,983 MW between demand and supply, contradicting the figures provided by the spokesman for Pepco and Ministry of Water and Power, Muhammad Khalid and Nasir Jamal respectively, who claim that the shortfall is 2,047MW.

The overall electricity demand of country is 12,565MW contradicting Nasir Jamal’s figure of 10,692MW. The loadshedding duration is seven and 14 hours in the urban and rural areas of the country respectively. It is worth mentioning that in some villages of the country, loadshedding has gone up to 16 hours.
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Detailed breakdown of individual power producers in the article.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 31 Dec 2009 06:31

BijuShet wrote:Graduation ceremony held
Pakistan Air Force Finishing School

Courses in art of self-presentation, domestic sciences, general culture, cuisine, protocol, art, childcare, introduction to psychology and spiritual enrichment.

Suleman said that it was however equally essential, more so for our daughters, to develop in them a dignified poise reflecting the aspiration of a Pakistani girl.

Certificates in what? Marriageability? Assigned to PAF pilots?

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 31 Dec 2009 06:47

TSP citizen's life span just went up significantly. Na rahega vaccum bulb na hogi vaccum dhamakas.
Pepco to distribute 10m energy savers

Thursday, December 31, 2009
By Our Correspondent

LAHORE
A TENDER opening ceremony for procurement of 10 million energy savers was held at Wapda house here.

The energy savers are estimated to help reduce electricity bills by Rs 300 for every bulb per month for domestic consumers.

The National CFL Project aims at procurement of a total 30 million high-quality CFLs (energy saver bulbs) through international competitive bidding (ICB) under tranche-I of Energy Efficiency Investment Programme.

The Asian Development Bank (ADB) and AFD (French Development Agency) are providing US$ 40 million and US$ 25 million funds for the programme, respectively.

Pakistan Electric Power Company (Pepco) will procure the CFLs and will distribute these to domestic consumers free of cost in exchange of 40 to 100 Watt incandescent bulbs (regular-use bulbs) through the distribution companies (DISCOs) and Karachi Electric Supply Company (KESC).The distribution costs will be borne by the DISCOs and KESC. ...

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 31 Dec 2009 06:56

BijuShet wrote:TSP citizen's life span just went up significantly. Na rahega vaccum bulb na hogi vaccum dhamakas.
Pepco to distribute 10m energy savers

Someone is set to make a lot of money here...

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 31 Dec 2009 07:00

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BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 31 Dec 2009 07:07

Hang on tight to your tin foil hats cause here comes the Phd in CT.
Same forces behind May 12 carnage, Ashura tragedy: JI

Thursday, December 31, 2009
By Our Correspondent

LAHORE

AMEER Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) Pakistan Syed Munawar Hasan said that the same elements were involved in the May 12 carnage and Ashura tragedy whereas the involvement of RAW and Blackwater could also not be ruled out. ...

Addressing a press conference at Mansoora on Wednesday, he said the local agents had been freely used to cause massive destruction. The port city was on fire but the state actor was visibly absent, he said.

... He said after the bomb blast, there was a criminal neglect, and well known miscreants became active within minutes. They were given free hand for destruction, said he. There was a sea of blood and fire and everything around was gutted and the miscreants used explosive material and chemicals to burn private property while the police, rangers and state agencies were absent, he lamented. Fire brigade did not reach the spot for four hours and the city government adopted the policy of “Go Slow,” alleged Munawar.

However, he said the only job that was done in time on this occasion was the putting up of anti-Taliban banners.{His concern is about some posters and not the several dead and millions in property destruction}

He urged Chief Justice Iftekhar Chaudhary to probe the fact as to how these banners were prepared so quickly and were on display early next morning when the whole city had been burning. Did those behind these banners have the knowledge of the tragedy before hand? Who were the people behind arson and firing and why were they apprehended on the spot, he asked.

Syed Munawar Hasan said there was a belated attempt to give a sectarian colour to the tragedy, although there was no sectarianism all over the country, especially in Karachi, where people from different sects worked together. It was however fortunate that the people and religious leaders of Karachi had foiled such an attempt.

Replying to a question, he said that the private property and business centers had been set ablaze by the conspirators, and not the Shia community. He said the present situation in Karachi was explosive and it could be turned into bloodbath through remote control in the name of Taliban.

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 31 Dec 2009 07:13

shiv wrote:
BijuShet wrote:TSP citizen's life span just went up significantly. Na rahega vaccum bulb na hogi vaccum dhamakas.
Pepco to distribute 10m energy savers

Someone is set to make a lot of money here...

Saar Pepco is producing 8000 MW from its 16000 MW installed capacity and TSPians are seeing 8-16 hours of blackouts. The same organisation now wants to hand out CFLs to alleviate this annual power shortage of 3000 MW. Not to forget that the developed world will now pay them cash for the accrued carbon credits from using CFL instead of regular bulbs. No one can outwit a Paki.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 31 Dec 2009 07:15

Obama has announced the partition of Pakistan

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 31 Dec 2009 07:17

Vivek K wrote:
harbans wrote:..... I see no reason why middle class Indian families employ full time maids as children. ..
I fully second harbans on that....

Jarita wrote:Guys,
Things in India are not black and white. Yes child labor is disgusting ...

Saar all this is OT for this thread but not for the forum. Please discuss it in the appropriate thread as per Archanjis request.